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paul_oshea
10/02/2011, 9:16 PM
Feb 14 2010 Sunday Mail http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/footbal...6908-22041945/

Quite ironic.

Is that alright for you now fly :p

paul_oshea
10/02/2011, 9:17 PM
Now that one's from last year.

I was messing about the other one!! was that not obvious from the big smiley?! :rolleyes:

Maroon 7
10/02/2011, 9:20 PM
http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae335/naka25/c0b4a188.jpg

Front page of Tomorrow's Daily Record in Scotland.

paul_oshea
10/02/2011, 9:20 PM
deja vu. It has been a long day for me though...

Charlie Darwin
10/02/2011, 9:21 PM
Quick, somebody post it again!

paul_oshea
10/02/2011, 9:25 PM
This is a photo shop image with a picture of James McCarthy, nothing to The commi obsessed joseph mccarthy, under a red title Daily Record:

http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae335/naka25/c0b4a188.jpg

Fly will let us all know if i have made any mistakes by quoting my post, so i cant go back and edit it retrospectively. Thats if he gets the tone of my post, which according to geysir there is a chance he could or could not.

The Fly
10/02/2011, 9:32 PM
Oh dear.

paul_oshea
10/02/2011, 9:32 PM
you didnt quote :D Whats wrong this time? Or if its quicker, whats right?! :D

SwanVsDalton
10/02/2011, 9:35 PM
Quick, somebody post it again!

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb433/SwanVsDalton/mc_carthy.jpg

AAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGH! :bulgy:

The Fly
10/02/2011, 9:43 PM
you didnt quote :D Whats wrong this time? Or if its quicker, whats right?! :D

The link didn't work initially.

boovidge
10/02/2011, 9:44 PM
Really wish that paper was real! It's my desktop background anyway :D

Anyway, Greenscenes report that McCarthy's agent has rubbished the speculation is a bit of comfort.

tetsujin1979
10/02/2011, 9:47 PM
So James McCarthy is routing out communists in Scotland now?

paul_oshea
10/02/2011, 9:53 PM
The link didn't work initially.

hmmm, clutching at straws....

paul_oshea
10/02/2011, 9:54 PM
So James McCarthy is routing out communists in Scotland now?

Yes, while there are commis in scotland he will never go back to them.

Wouldn't it be ironic though, if he had spoke to the Daily Record instead of talking to irish papers first.

Closed Account
10/02/2011, 10:11 PM
http://i55.tinypic.com/28j9naf.jpg
Oh No!

tetsujin1979
10/02/2011, 10:11 PM
Yes, while there are commis in scotland he will never go back to them.

Wouldn't it be ironic though, if he had spoke to the Daily Record instead of talking to irish papers first.
That is the very definition of ironic
Like ten thousand spoons, when all you need is a knife

shakermaker1982
10/02/2011, 10:17 PM
Just seen an article on the guardian (on my phone so tricky to paste link) and it reckons he won't make a decision till the Summer?! Bloody hell. I don't think that will acceptable to the fans or the manager if true.

boovidge
10/02/2011, 10:20 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/10/scotland-james-mccarthy-ireland

doesn't seem to offer any sort of convincing evidence that he'll make up his mind in the summer.

Drumcondra 69er
10/02/2011, 10:21 PM
Just seen an article on the guardian (on my phone so tricky to paste link) and it reckons he won't make a decision till the Summer?! Bloody hell. I don't think that will acceptable to the fans or the manager if true.

Just a re hash of earlier quotes and some speculation.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/10/scotland-james-mccarthy-ireland

SwanVsDalton
10/02/2011, 10:25 PM
Just a re hash of earlier quotes and some speculation.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/10/scotland-james-mccarthy-ireland

Oof. The photoshopped front pages above are more convincing journalism than that guff.

tricky_colour
10/02/2011, 10:54 PM
http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae335/naka25/c0b4a188.jpg

Front page of Tomorrow's Daily Record in Scotland.

Is this for real?

It certainly looks real but something like that could be forged but does look like a real newspaper, hard to forge,
Can anyone nip out and buy a copy and post picture and full story.

Well I guess we should know for sure pretty soon, the on-line version should switch to the 11th pretty spoon.

tricky_colour
10/02/2011, 10:57 PM
Perhaps we can close this thread then - lol:party:

tricky_colour
10/02/2011, 11:04 PM
I'm watching Sky News to see if there is anything on it about McCarthy, but they seem to obsessed with Murbarak for some reason, which is weird because he is not even eligible to play for us as far as I am aware, plus at 82 he is way to old.

geysir
10/02/2011, 11:06 PM
Of course its for real, do you think anybody here would joke over a matter like this.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQX9Dl4wCyV_wUTbXsM7FnOSyknxQkkS zyqfz8fg9WJYfiZXwz5

tricky_colour
10/02/2011, 11:11 PM
This is disturbing though:-

http://r9.fodey.com/2145/e485cad992ee46cf81101c502f26852c.0.jpg

Scooby Doo
10/02/2011, 11:12 PM
http://sport.scotsman.com/scotlandsfootballteam/James-McCarthy-has-big-decision.6715958.jp

Gary Caldwell having his say.

Hope its not a bad omen that JMC chose Wigan, with it a load of Scotland internationals, over Wolves with its high number of Irish lads!

Encouraged by the reported comments from his agent but will wait to see proper quotes before jumping to conclusions.

geysir
10/02/2011, 11:13 PM
Poor english grammar in that one TC, definitely not as real as the Record.

tetsujin1979
10/02/2011, 11:16 PM
Hope its not a bad omen that JMC chose Wigan, with it a load of Scotland internationals, over Wolves with its high number of Irish lads!
Think Steven Caldwell was the only Scottish player there when he transferred?

musicinmouth
10/02/2011, 11:22 PM
Better news from the Sun. :)

http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/3405067/Sorry-Its-no-AGAIN.html

Charlie Darwin
10/02/2011, 11:30 PM
Lads, he's actually chosen Northern Ireland.

Sullivinho
10/02/2011, 11:39 PM
Better news from the Sun. :)

http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/3405067/Sorry-Its-no-AGAIN.html

George Gray (cited in that article) is James' agent isn't he? Strong words from him.

"He is 100 per cent committed to playing for the Republic of Ireland and doesn't know where this has come from."

Junior
10/02/2011, 11:44 PM
Levein is on the BBC as saying all options to be pursued or some such phrase, the piece is in relation to Gary Hooper and James McCarthy.

Here : http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/9391709.stm

I get the feeling more and more there is something in this and that Trap is the wrong wrong wrong man to have dealing with it, we will need McCarthy a lot longer than we need Trap.

Whatever about the McCarthy issue, its this sort of attitude that is ruining International Football for me. Its not about having the best players. Its about having the best players that want to represent their country.


"I want to develop a club mentality, work with the players to produce better results and keep improving.

"Where those players come from is of no great interest to me, the level that they are playing at is of far more interest to me.

"Lads who play at the top level are players that I want to play for Scotland."

Crosby87
10/02/2011, 11:52 PM
That article on whatever the **** sports.scotsman is was garbage reporting. Picks and chooses Traps quotes and is entirely based on nothing. That chick who wrote is should ashamed of herself. Unfortunate that so many bozos get to write about this and stoke the fire.

tricky_colour
11/02/2011, 12:05 AM
At the end of the day it does not matter what is said in the newspapers, or what McCarthy or his agent says,
what really matters is meeting the technical definition of playing for Ireland.
I am not even sure what that is, but I think I have found it.

Accordingly, any player who is qualified to play for more than one national association (i.e. who has dual nationality) will be deemed to have committed himself to one association only when he plays his first international match in an official competition (at any level) for that association.

Thus we will have to wait until he pulls on a green jersey and crosses the touchline, I don't think he has to actually kick a ball.

gilberto_eire
11/02/2011, 12:49 AM
Is this for real?

It certainly looks real but something like that could be forged but does look like a real newspaper, hard to forge,
Can anyone nip out and buy a copy and post picture and full story.

Well I guess we should know for sure pretty soon, the on-line version should switch to the 11th pretty spoon.

I don't see any reason it wouldn't be real. He's stated plenty of times he wants to play for Ireland.

Considering the abuse he took at Hamilton, it would have been bad enough then to play for Scotland, imagine what it would be like now that he's lined out at senior level for Ireland?

Crosby87
11/02/2011, 1:05 AM
Its photoshopped guys.

The Fly
11/02/2011, 1:32 AM
Better news from the Sun. :)

http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/3405067/Sorry-Its-no-AGAIN.html

I think it's best to post the article above, in full.





JAMES McCARTHY last night killed speculation he was ready to snub Ireland and play for Scotland.

The Wigan Athletic ace - who pulled out of the Republic squad to face Wales earlier this week - was laying low as talk of a stunning U-turn intensified yesterday. But adviser and family friend George Gray spoke to SunSport on his behalf and insisted: "He is 100 per cent committed to playing for the Republic of Ireland and doesn't know where this has come from. He didn't travel for the Carling Nations Cup because of a persistent ankle injury. It's as simple as that."

Republic boss Giovanni Trapattoni has publicly stated he fears McCarthy is ready to walk away from his side and pledge his future to Scotland. Wigan boss Roberto Martinez added fuel to the fire yesterday, claiming McCarthy faced "a very, deep decision" about whether to switch allegiance. SunSport understands there HAVE been tentative talks from the Scotland camp about trying to persuade one of the hottest young stars in the Premiership to switch sides. Despite playing a friendly for Ireland against Brazil last year, former Hamilton starlet McCarthy is still eligible for Craig Levein's side.

But the Glasgow-born star - who qualifies for the Republic through his grandfather - refuses to even consider the prospect of abandoning his adopted nation. Gray added: "There has been no discussion between James or anyone from Scotland. Until this week it wasn't even an issue. I have spoken to James and his family at great length this morning. All he wants to do is concentrate on his football. He plays for the Republic of Ireland and has done since he was 17. He's looking forward to an illustrious career with them and wants this put to bed once and for all. The FAI have been incredibly supportive towards James for a long time, so there is no way he will be jumping ship. He's staying where he is."

McCarthy's withdrawal from the Republic squad on Monday sparked fears among the Irish he was set to quit. His Wigan team-mates Steven Caldwell and James McArthur admitted he'd be a great addition to the Scotland set-up. And Latics boss Martinez said: "International football is something he needs to think about with his family. It is something very, very deep."

The Fly
11/02/2011, 1:48 AM
Just reached my thousandth post...........is there a prize?

CraftyToePoke
11/02/2011, 2:45 AM
Just reached my thousandth post...........is there a prize?

A cap in midfield for Ireland. Only in a friendly though.

The Fly
11/02/2011, 4:25 AM
The Grass is Still Greener for McCarthy (http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/more-scottish-football/the-grass-is-still-greener-for-mccarthy-1.1084570)





Herald Scotland

JAMES McCarthy has no intention of playing for Scotland and remains totally committed to representing the Republic of Ireland.

MICHAEL GRANT chief football writer
11 Feb 2011

The Wigan Athletic midfielder has been at the centre of intense will he/won’t he speculation since it was revealed that he had withdrawn from the Irish squad for their Carling Nations Cup tie with Wales this week. That instantly provoked rumours that the 20-year-old, who has yet to officially commit to the Irish by playing a competitive game for them, was having second thoughts and wanted to turn out for Scotland. McCarthy was born in Glasgow and his appeal to Scotland is obvious.

The manager Craig Levein and the Scottish Football Association have declined to comment on the situation. Discreet inquiries were made, though, and inevitably Scotland would be receptive to any change of mind by McCarthy. But there will not be one.

His allegiance to the Republic of Ireland was made when he was only 15 as a mark of respect for his Irish grandfather, although McCarthy has always stated he would have committed himself to Scotland first if he had been chosen by the SFA at youth level. Various attempts to woo him by the Scots have ended in failure and this week’s speculation has been a red herring. It arose because of misinterpretation of comments made by the Ireland manager Giovanni Trapattoni, subsequently compounded by those of the Wigan Athletic manager Roberto Martinez.

McCarthy’s only Irish cap came in a friendly against Brazil last year and he is not formally committed to them until he has appeared in a competitive game. Trapattoni, who intends to pick him for his squad to face Macedonia in a Euro 2012 qualifier next month, had said: “He is 20 years old, he can decide freely, ‘I like Scotland, I like Ireland’. He has the possibility. He knows our position, he knows we like him. He can decide. It’s his heart that decides.”

Martinez did little to end the speculation yesterday when he also claimed that McCarthy still had a decision to make. “It [international football] is something he needs to think about with his family, with his friends. It is something very, very deep.” Martinez insisted he kept the Republic of Ireland fully informed about McCarthy, who was withdrawn after he scored twice in the 4-3 win over Blackburn Rovers. He had been out with an ankle injury for 14 weeks and returned to action a fortnight ago. An agreement was reached between the Wigan medical staff and the Football Association of Ireland’s that it was too soon for him to appear in an international game, and so he withdrew.

Martinez said: “It wasn’t the right time for him to go. He could not have coped with the physical demands. That’s it really. I spoke with the Republic of Ireland staff to make sure they knew the programme James was on. When James got injured late in October he was so disappointed he just wanted to get back fully fit as quickly as a he could. He told me then he needed to forget his international career. If you look at his performance on Saturday, James McCarthy is going to be one of the top footballers in Europe. What a player to have for your country or club.”

McCarthy rose to prominence with Hamilton Academical. He spent almost three years in their first team as a teenager before signing for Wigan in a £1.2m deal in the summer of 2009. Since then he has continued to shine and has emerged as one of the most promising young players in England’s Premier League. His team-mate for club – but not country – Steven Caldwell admitted he would love to play alongside him in dark blue. “He’d be a tremendous addition for Scotland. We want good players and if he wants to play for us then I’m sure there will be a place for him. I want him to make the right choice for him and his family and I’m sure he will.”

Sadly for Caldwell, and Levein, the matter is redundant. Despite rumours to contrary, the Wigan Athletic midfielder will not switch allegiance to Scotland.

Park_Lane
11/02/2011, 7:16 AM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/3405067/Sorry-Its-no-AGAIN.html

JAMES McCARTHY last night killed speculation he was ready to snub Ireland and play for Scotland.

The Wigan Athletic ace - who pulled out of the Republic squad to face Wales earlier this week - was laying low as talk of a stunning U-turn intensified yesterday.
But adviser and family friend George Gray spoke to SunSport on his behalf and insisted: "He is 100 per cent committed to playing for the Republic of Ireland and doesn't know where this has come from.
"He didn't travel for the Carling Nations Cup because of a persistent ankle injury. It's as simple as that."
Republic boss Giovanni Trapattoni has publicly stated he fears McCarthy is ready to walk away from his side and pledge his future to Scotland.
Wigan boss Roberto Martinez added fuel to the fire yesterday, claiming McCarthy faced "a very, deep decision" about whether to switch allegiance.
SunSport understands there HAVE been tentative talks from the Scotland camp about trying to persuade one of the hottest young stars in the Premiership to switch sides.
Despite playing a friendly for Ireland against Brazil last year, former Hamilton starlet McCarthy is still eligible for Craig Levein's side.
But the Glasgow-born star - who qualifies for the Republic through his grandfather - refuses to even consider the prospect of abandoning his adopted nation. Gray added: "There has been no discussion between James or anyone from Scotland. Until this week it wasn't even an issue.
"I have spoken to James and his family at great length this morning. All he wants to do is concentrate on his football.
"He plays for the Republic of Ireland and has done since he was 17. He's looking forward to an illustrious career with them and wants this put to bed once and for all.
"The FAI have been incredibly supportive towards James for a long time, so there is no way he will be jumping ship. He's staying where he is."
McCarthy's withdrawal from the Republic squad on Monday sparked fears among the Irish he was set to quit.
His Wigan team-mates Steven Caldwell and James McArthur admitted he'd be a great addition to the Scotland set-up.
And Latics boss Martinez said: "International football is something he needs to think about with his family. It is something very, very deep."

paul_oshea
11/02/2011, 7:21 AM
Sly Scots i wonder when that started

TrapAPony
11/02/2011, 7:38 AM
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/2011/02/11/republic-of-ireland-star-james-mccarthy-there-was-never-the-slightest-chance-of-me-switching-to-scotland-86908-22914662/


Republic of Ireland star James McCarthy: There was never the slightest chance of me switching to Scotland

Feb 11 2011 By James Traynor
JAMES McCARTHY will NOT be joining Craig Levein's Scotland revival.
The Wigan star is standing by his decision to play for the Republic of Ireland rather than the land of his birth.
In fact, sources close to the 20-year-old stressed last night there was never any chance of him changing his mind despite fevered speculation he was about to perform a sensational U-turn.
But Scotland were given hope of a change of heart when McCarthy was withdrawn from Ireland's squad ahead of their Carling Nations Cup tie against Wales on Tuesday night.
The Republic's manager Giovanni Trapattoni then demanded Glasgow boy McCarthy, who qualifies for Ireland under the grandparent agreement, make a decision.
"He must choose," the Italian insisted. "He plays for Ireland or he plays for Scotland."
Levein wouldn't be drawn on the matter after Scotland's 3-0 win against Northern Ireland on Wednesday night but it's no secret the Scots have been trying to persuade McCarthy to think again.
Even his Wigan manager Roberto Martinez added to the intrigue yesterday when he said the player faces "a very, very deep decision".
But sources close to the midfielder immediately pointed out there is no chance of that, saying: "James is not having second thoughts. He has chosen Ireland and is far too honourable to switch."
It was finally revealed yesterday it was Martinez who decided McCarthy should not join the Irish squad because he has only recently recovered from an ankle injury.
The ex-Hamilton player has come through four matches but Martinez doesn't want his young star to do too much too soon.
Wigan's boss said: "He could not have coped with the physical demands. We sent a report to the Republic medical staff and I spoke to Mr Trapattoni."
McCarthy has made one senior appearance for the Republic - in a friendly against Brazil.
He will have to play in a competitive match to confirm his nationality so far as football is concerned and the sooner the better, according to the sources.

Park_Lane
11/02/2011, 7:43 AM
the whole drama could of been avoided if trap just had of rang the chap

AlaskaFox
11/02/2011, 7:59 AM
More insight from GreenScene:
http://greenscene.me/2011/02/james-mccarthy-reaffirms-commitment-to-ireland/

Last paragraph:

While some may have expected McCarthy himself to come out and speak to journalists directly, the youngster has always preferred Gray to speak to the media, allowing McCarthy to focus fully on his football. When he was at Hamilton, he preferred to let Gray talk about any speculation regarding his future and a potential move to Celtic or the Premier League. “I leave it to my advisor George Gray to deal with it because I just want to concentrate on football,” McCarthy said in December 2007. “It’s good to be mentioned in the papers about who wants me and this and that. And, yeah, sometimes I might be lying in bed thinking about what might happen but I’ve got to focus on my football and not let the talk get to me.”

tetsujin1979
11/02/2011, 8:10 AM
That's the end of that so. Thank Christ

Duggie
11/02/2011, 8:19 AM
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/more-scottish-football/the-grass-is-still-greener-for-mccarthy-1.1084570

AlaskaFox
11/02/2011, 8:43 AM
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/more-scottish-football/the-grass-is-still-greener-for-mccarthy-1.1084570

There's not one piece of argument for or against in that article though. Just quotes from Martinez and Caldwell, and then a line at the end saying "oh wait, it's not true".

The George Gray stuff, on the other hand, is great to hear.

elroy
11/02/2011, 9:00 AM
Woohoo and deja vu..........werent we here sometime last year?!?!

In a way I feel sorry for the lad, but the reality is until he is fully capped in a competitive match, any time he pulls out of an international, the media will feed off this story. Trap sort it out please. There is no reason whatsoever to doubt the lad, he has shown more commitment to Ireland than some Irish born lads. I for one am looking forward to this lad developing into a world class player for us, fingers crossed!!!

gspain
11/02/2011, 10:02 AM
I actually think he should start in central midfield v Macedonia as he is a better player than any we have in that position based on his club form. However I expect he won't and appreciate he will probably have to prove himself in friendlies first. It would be great if he did play some part in the game and finally end the speculation.