James McCarthy M free agent b.1990

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promoted to the senior squad according to Ken Early: http://twitter.com/#!/kenearlys/statuses/32849078249324545 (http://twitter.com/#%21/kenearlys/statuses/32849078249324545)

although the second part, if true, is baffling
That would make the squad something like this:

Given
Westwood

O'Shea
Clark
Coleman
Dunne
St Ledger
S Kelly
O'Dea

Wilson
Gibson
Whelan
Green
Lawrence
Treacy
Duff
McCarthy

Keane
Walters
Doyle
Long
Best


Wait until you see the uproar for Stokes/Fahey/McGeady getting dropped, no-one is ever happy despite the fact you can only start 11 players. Get over it lads, you're not the manager so your indignation is wasted.

[cornflakes]

Mcgeady in pre-season, Trap doesn't rate the SPL and I cant think of any logical reason why Fahey isn't picked

[Philly]

Fahey has being starting lately for Birmingham and saved our asses against Armenia, so it's an odd choice to exclude him and include the likes of Green who has been poor for Derby of late.

[tetsujin1979]

ah, Birmingham playing on Sunday as well, might be the same reason for demoting Stokes

[SkStu]

Fahey instead of Green (fckin hell, still?!) and Ward in as a defender and i would be realtively happy with that squad, truth be told. Performance is still everything however.

Manager P W D L %W %D %L
Staunton 17 6 6 5 35.29 35.29 29.41
Trapattoni 28 10 11 7 35.71 39.29 25.00

[SwanVsDalton]

Where's Foley?

Mentioned somewhere he's injured but he appears to be available for Wolves tonight...

[Scooby Doo]

Can anyone confirm that the Wales match is viewed as a friendly as opposed to a competative game that would ultimately tie McCarthy to Ireland. Not that I envisage him ever changing sides. Just curious.

Apologies if this is discussed elsewhere already.

[TrapAPony]

As long as Green doesn't play that squad looks fine. Fahey should be ahead of him. Not too bad though.

[Yard of Pace]

Wait until you see the uproar for Stokes/Fahey/McGeady getting dropped, no-one is ever happy despite the fact you can only start 11 players. Get over it lads, you're not the manager so your indignation is wasted.

:rolleyes: We can't discuss team/squad selections and offer opinions with others? I didn't realise, I'll go cancel my foot.ie membership.

[Noelys Guitar]

Now thats a bit better. I take it Fahey and Stokes have been excluded due to playing on Sunday.

[Paddy Garcia]

Thank you Trap! I thought you would never do it!

[Charlie Darwin]

Looks like Trap's looking at McCarthy as a wide midfielder rather than central.

[SwanVsDalton]

Thank you Trap! I thought you would never do it!

McCarthy? But he already had...;)

[Sullivinho]

As long as Green doesn't play that squad looks fine. Fahey should be ahead of him. Not too bad though.

Agreed. Fahey ain't no world-beater but he's surely a Green-beater. Healthy enough looking squad anyway.

[shakermaker1982]

Common sense has prevailed.

[Closed Account]

:rolleyes: We can't discuss team/squad selections and offer opinions with others? I didn't realise, I'll go cancel my foot.ie membership.

I was referring to the indignation in this and another thread calling for Traps head fo omitting McCarthy. Surely you can see the difference between that and normal discussion.

[paul_oshea]

Good to see, futile if he doesn't get game time though.

[Stuttgart88]

Saw most the game last night and certainly wouldnt have said James was excellent or stood out. However I will say that once he went off that Wigans midfield was no where near as good as it had been in the first half. People used to say similar stuff about Roy Keane. He wasn't Messi but his mere presence on the pitch and continuously doing the simple stuff brilliantly meant that he was missed when not there. I'm not sure a modern pundit would appreciate Roy Keane. Not flash enough.

[Crosby87]

[QUOTE=Stuttgart88;1447629]I'm not sure a modern pundit would appreciate Roy Keane. Not flash enough.

Like he retired so long ago that its a whole different generation of pundits Stutts. ;)

[Fergie's Son]

Just glad he picked Jamie. Let's focus on that bit of good news.

[Serb]

Can anyone confirm that the Wales match is viewed as a friendly as opposed to a competative game that would ultimately tie McCarthy to Ireland. Not that I envisage him ever changing sides. Just curious.

Unfortunately, you can't invent your own tournaments to tie a player to your football association. It's a friendly and only FIFA / UEFA approved competitions count towards international eligibility.

I wouldn't worry too much to be honest. As far as I'm aware, it would be unprecedented for McCarthy to change his allegiance now that he has been fully capped for Ireland. After everything he went through in Scotland, I'd consider if extremely unlikely that he would swap back to the Scots over being left out of one squad (but subsequently included, yay!).

[SkStu]

Unfortunately, you can't invent your own tournaments to tie a player to your football association. It's a friendly and only FIFA / UEFA approved competitions count towards international eligibility.

I wouldn't worry too much to be honest. As far as I'm aware, it would be unprecedented for McCarthy to change his allegiance now that he has been fully capped for Ireland. After everything he went through in Scotland, I'd consider if extremely unlikely that he would swap back to the Scots over being left out of one squad (but subsequently included, yay!).

i think we all know who to thank for that.

me, Noely's Guitar, Trapapony and Paul.

No problem lads.

[Yard of Pace]

I was referring to the indignation in this and another thread calling for Traps head fo omitting McCarthy. Surely you can see the difference between that and normal discussion.

That other thread attracted 71 replies. If the OP felt that way than he's entitled to post it. If it was complete rubbish no one would reply. Personally, I enjoy a bit of that anyway, even if I didn't agree that Trap should be sacked purely over McCarthy. It's nice to see any kind of discussion here when so often it's just clicking into the Jay O'Shea thread to find out he might be going on loan to Stevenage Borough.

[SwanVsDalton]

i think we all know who to thank for that.

me, Noely's Guitar, Trapapony and Paul.

No problem lads.

Yous will lose lustre if he you can't get him a game too...

[tetsujin1979]

i think we all know who to thank for that.

me, Noely's Guitar, Trapapony and Paul.

No problem lads.
self praise is no recommendation

[mark12345]

Got to hand it to Trap. He was on a hiding to nothing if he had gone down the Andy Reid road with McCarthy. Thankfully he has done the right thing and brought him into the squad. He should see some playing time now.

[gastric]

As one who had a go at Trap on the 'untenable' thread, I have got to acknowledge the fact that he has now called up McCarthy. My fear was that he would just use players to try and qualify for Euro 2012 without blooding new players as part of creating transition in the team. From his actions and comments over the last week, it looks likely that Clarke, Coleman and McCarthy will get some time on the pitch which will be exciting and positive. Some could argue as to his motivation and purpose in doing this, but even if he has been pressured to do this, it's still a welcome development.

[drummerboy]

Whats the betting Martinez will pull McCarthy out of the squad for next week.

[tetsujin1979]

what's the betting people will blame Trapattoni for not knowing McCarthy was going to be pulled out of the squad ahead of the announcement?

[paul_oshea]

tets you need to do something about that boner for trap.

[Crosby87]

Some could argue as to his motivation and purpose in doing this, but even if he has been pressured to do this, it's still a welcome development.

Are you suggesting he would still want to be manager in 2014?

[geysir]

Considering that both Tardelli and Brady say that they have/had no influence on Trap once he has his mind made up, it would be the height of delusion to think that Trap in any way bowed to pressure to draft McCarthy into the squad. When the facts of McCarthy's recovery from injury were made known to Trap, he included him in the final squad because he rates McCarthy highly.
Trap is probably one of the most single minded managers in the game.

[punkrocket]

tets you need to do something about that boner for trap.

Reminds of the Brian Moore comment about Packie way back when, still makes me laugh thinking about it.

[paul_oshea]

when the irish lads on teh way into the ground told him his name was pronounced -> bo-ner as opposed to bon-ner :D

And i didnt even think irish lads would know that word back in the god fearing, cb beating haze of the 80s.

[Charlie Darwin]

This is relevant. Twente player switches from Morocco to Belgium after representing the former in a friendly international (fittingly against Northern Ireland).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/africa/9387721.stm

[paul_oshea]

Not really CD, i think everyone already knew that, unless its a competitive game it doesn't tie one(taiwan in a country accent) to a country.

[Fixer82]

when the irish lads on teh way into the ground told him his name was pronounced -> bo-ner as opposed to bon-ner :D

And i didnt even think irish lads would know that word back in the god fearing, cb beating haze of the 80s.

It actually is pronounced Boner by a lot of people in Donegal and even spelt like that sometimes as well as Bonar.
Jimmy Magee usually pronounces it Boner. In Irish it's Ó Cnáimhsí which literally, as far as I can see, means Boner...ie someone who bones ;)
gerrrrup Packie ya dirtbird ya!

[paul_oshea]

Ya around glenties south west/killybegs that area they do say boner. But its two ns, I have seen it with just one before.

[Charlie Darwin]

Not really CD, i think everyone already knew that, unless its a competitive game it doesn't tie one(taiwan in a country accent) to a country.
Just pointing out that it has happened and does happen.

[theworm2345]

It actually is pronounced Boner by a lot of people in Donegal and even spelt like that sometimes as well as Bonar.
Jimmy Magee usually pronounces it Boner. In Irish it's Ó Cnáimhsí which literally, as far as I can see, means Boner...ie someone who bones ;)
gerrrrup Packie ya dirtbird ya!
So when people call me Boner (which has been my nickname for awhile now), it is actually a testament to my goalkeeping ability (or its ironic due to my lack of goalkeeping ability)?

[Sullivinho]

This is relevant. Twente player switches from Morocco to Belgium after representing the former in a friendly international (fittingly against Northern Ireland).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/africa/9387721.stm

Indeed, McCarthy could play for us against Wales (having already done so vs Brazil) and switch to Scotland the next day. No doubt touching down at SFA HQ astride his flying pig.


So when people call me Boner (which has been my nickname for awhile now), it is actually a testament to my goalkeeping ability (or its ironic due to my lack of goalkeeping ability)?

I know a Boner. We were walking down the street one day when, with a deft move to the right, he expertly foiled a rapidly advancing Romanian who was looking to score. The subsequent leap and air punching was a bit unnecessary though, and we told him so.

[Sullivinho]

James scores his first goal of the season vs Blackburn.

[Closed Account]

James scores his first goal of the season vs Blackburn.
:) Except for his other first goal.

and he's just pulled one back for Wigan

[Sullivinho]

:) Except for his other first goal.

You're absolutely correct. My memory is untenable ;)

Edit: And there's his third.

[irishultra]

he is quallers...but lets see trapattoni shove him out on the wing to allow the class footballers that are keef andrews glenn whelan and paul green in the middle:mad:

[Noelys Guitar]

Makes a mockery of Trappatonni's decision not to include him in the original squad. McCarthy, Coleman (having another good game today for Everton) and Clark as well as being very good players with pace (something we sadly lack) can all score goals.

[tricky_colour]

He's just got his third first goal of the season :p

[Noelys Guitar]

From the BBC site. Will be looking forward to seeing this goal later.
James McCarthy has doubled his tally for the afternoon with a sublime piece of skill and finish. N'Zogbia rolled the ball into McCarthy who flicked the ball over the defender with his right foot before volleying in with his left from eight yards. Lovely stuff.

[geysir]

Brilliantly worked goal for James from inside a crowded box. Trap has the highest expectations for him. If he keeps this up he should get a move in the summer to a top club.

[rebelmusic]

Was tackled hard about 5 minutes ago and looked in a lot of pain. He's just come off....hope it's not serious but will raise doubts for Tuesday...