James McCarthy M free agent b.1990

[Charlie Darwin]

He's still in the ground according to the latest update...not shifted to hospital yet so hopefully not as bad as feared
Well that's a lot better news if true.

[greendeiseboy]

Well that's a lot better news if true.

Listening to it on the Wigan web player commentary

[greendeiseboy]

Latest from RTE

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/1023/mccarthyj.html

[Stuttgart88]

Martinez thinks it's a bad one. X-Ray over the w/e.

Our CM jinx strikes again: Healy a few years back and now McCann, Meyler, J. O'Brien and McCarthy - all likely CM contenders for the current side.

Sean Scannell (wide right) is another young lad with a long term injury to add to the list in the Ciaran Clark thread.

[Razors left peg]

Martinez thinks it's a bad one. X-Ray over the w/e.

Our CM jinx strikes again: Healy a few years back and now McCann, Meyler, J. O'Brien and McCarthy - all likely CM contenders for the current side.

Sean Scannell (wide right) is another young lad with a long term injury to add to the list in the Ciaran Clark thread.

I was actually just wondering about where Sean Scannell has disappeared to earlier today, what kind of injury does he have?

[The Fly]

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/1023/mccarthyj.html



Wigan boss Roberto Martinez fears the worst about James McCarthy's ankle injury after the midfielder was carried off in today's 1-1 draw with Bolton at the DW Stadium.

The 19-year-old was left writhing in agony following Fabrice Muamba's challenge midway through the first half and received lengthy treatment on the pitch before leaving on a stretcher.

Republic of Ireland boss Giovanni Trapattoni had stated he would call up McCarthy for next month's friendly with Norway but the Wigan youngster's participation is now unlikely.

McCarthy, who has played in all Wigan's Premier League games this season, was taken to hospital, and player and manager must now wait for the results of an X-ray that will determine how long he will spend on the sidelines.

Martinez said: 'He's gone to the hospital and we'll get the results over the next 24 hours but it doesn't look too good.
'It's a real shame because he's a very young man but he's very mature on the pitch and he's been performing in a very special manner.'
The Spaniard, though, did not attach any blame to Muamba for the challenge, which was from behind but came after Latics captain Antolin Alcaraz put his team-mate in trouble with a poor pass.

'It's a difficult ball for a midfielder - it's a straight ball,' continued Martinez. When you look at the replay, he clearly gets his ankle first.
It's disappointing. The intent is to play the ball. It's from behind. It's one of those actions - you're sending your team-mate into the lion's den. But he's young and he's very, very fit and we hope it's not as bad as it looks.'

Bolton boss Owen Coyle saw the situation in much the same way and is keeping his fingers crossed McCarthy is not seriously injured after watching him come through the ranks at Hamilton, who he left to join Wigan last summer.

Coyle said: 'My thoughts are to make sure he's okay because I've known him as a young kid progressing all the way through in Scotland to where he is now, and there's no doubt he's destined for a glittering career. Hopefully he's back very soon. Certainly from my position it looked an innocuous challenge. They both went to shut the ball.'

[The Fly]

At least it doesn't look like a leg break.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/10/23/article-1323114-0BBC6ACD000005DC-617_634x456.jpg

[tricky_colour]

Well if it was really bad I expect we would have heard news by now?
I mean it only takes a few minutes to get an X-ray done.
Even if it's not broken he could still be out for a good while, as in rest of the season.
His legs look reasonably 'leg-shaped' so lets hope it is not as bad as feared.

[The Fly]

His legs look reasonably 'leg-shaped' so lets hope it is not as bad as feared.

Thanks for that articulation. ;)

[Razors left peg]

If he has done the ankle ligament I know from experience that its incredibly painful and slow enough to heal

[Fergie's Son]

Feck! He was establishing himself at Wigan. Hope it's not too bad.

[The Fly]

What sort of time frame are we talking about Razor?

[Razors left peg]

What sort of time frame are we talking about Razor?

Id say he be lookin at a couple of months if its just the ligaments with no break or fracture. It wouldnt be the same as my experience coz I didnt have a team of medics working with me so I wasnt right for about 9 months

[geysir]

Was it the ankle on the left peg?

[tricky_colour]

I did my ankle in a couple of years ago, just mucking about with a football in the back garden and turned it on a bit of a hole in the ground, so no nasty challenge is required. It was a double fracture, in plaster for 6 weeks, could have done with 7 I think cos it didn't feel too good when they took it off - lol. I was walking with a limp for several months after. Hard to say when it healed totally, if indeed it has, it is still discolored in places. McCarthy is a young lad though heal a lot easier, but if it's broke he will be out for a while.

[tricky_colour]

Martinez was more critical of the pass from captain Antolin Alcaraz that put McCarthy under pressure.

“With a pass like that you are putting your team-mate into the lion’s den,” he said.

Sound like it was a hospital pass.

[Razors left peg]

Was it the ankle on the left peg?

no, I was originally Razors Right Peg but had to change it after that injury!

[Stuttgart88]

I was actually just wondering about where Sean Scannell has disappeared to earlier today, what kind of injury does he have?cruciate I think

[geysir]

How long can it take to find someone (not How Long), who can have a look at the xray, inspect the ankle and deliver a reasonable first estimate on the injury. Can Wigan afford such treatment? Or is it normal to wait a few days for all this happen with such an ankle injury?

[Razors left peg]

How long can it take to find someone (not How Long), who can have a look at the xray, inspect the ankle and deliver a reasonable first estimate on the injury. Can Wigan afford such treatment? Or is it normal to wait a few days for all this happen with such an ankle injury?

sometimes ya have to wait for the swelling to go down before u can judge it properly. When I did my ankle I got x rayed that weekend but had to get another one the following week when the swelling reduced

[Crosby87]

Some posters I see on various message baords are saying it is just a cut that required stiches and some swelling but nothing long term....hopefully that is going to be accurate.

[tricky_colour]

How long can it take to find someone (not How Long), who can have a look at the xray, inspect the ankle and deliver a reasonable first estimate on the injury. Can Wigan afford such treatment? Or is it normal to wait a few days for all this happen with such an ankle injury?

When I did mine I am pretty sure they had it X-rayed within a few hours, and that is on the NHS, they also put it in a temporary cast
for 24 hours until the swelling went down.

Also mine was still badly swollen 6 weeks later then they took the cast off, indeed 6 months later it was still swollen in places.

[tricky_colour]

Some posters I see on various message baords are saying it is just a cut that required stiches and some swelling but nothing long term....hopefully that is going to be accurate.

Well if it was broken I think it would be in plaster by now, and I am sure the press would have picked up on that.

Sounds like the x-ray is is not showing anything obvious.

[carloz]

Kevin Davies on twitter said it looked bad, but that he saw McCarthy just after he had been taken off the pitch trying to get back on. Fingers crossed

[Sullivinho]

Kevin Davies on twitter said it looked bad, but that he saw McCarthy just after he had been taken off the pitch trying to get back on. Fingers crossed

James was trying to get back on??

Well that would be a positive sign for multiple reasons. Fingers crossed indeed.

Edit - Here's the 'tweet' in question:

"I heard he is fine and wanted to come back on!! thought it was serious at first as he was in a lot of pain, happy for him"

[Crosby87]

Yes apparently he was mad when he saw what's his name coming on for him and wanted to come back out.....
That is a good sign.
Sounds like a bone bruise to me. Day to Day.

[elroy]

Ankle ligament damage according to the English tabloids today.

[AlaskaFox]

Out for 4-6 weeks:
http://greenscene.me/2010/10/wigan-wait-for-mccarthy-injury-results/

[Charlie Darwin]

Disappointing he'll miss Norway but great news that it's not as serious as first feared.

[geysir]

I think we were already resigned to losing him for the Norway friendly,
4- 6 weeks is as good as it gets.

[ofjames]

Martinez saying 10 weeks now...

http://football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6468100,00.html

[Sullivinho]

Out for 4-6 weeks:
http://greenscene.me/2010/10/wigan-wait-for-mccarthy-injury-results/


Martinez saying 10 weeks now...

http://football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6468100,00.html

Let's split the difference and call it 8. Which would be a result considering there were fears of broken ankles and whatnot only a couple of pages back.

[AlaskaFox]

It's probably 6 weeks before he gets back into light training, and 8-10 total.

[carloz]

Well Sky sports news are saying it could be ten weeks. Thats probably the maximum of what it will be. Fingers crossed he will be back before that.

[tricky_colour]

Seems to me the incident has been somewhat overblown, if nothing is broken it can be hard do tell how bad it is.
He should have a good idea himself within a week or so. If nothing is severed it probably won't take too long to sort itself out.


From the BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/wigan_athletic/9124509.stm

"It is a little bit better than we thought at first but it is obviously ligament damage in the right ankle," added Martinez.

"When it is swollen it is sometimes difficult to assess but there is no fracture, we hope."

"He has been sensational," stated Martinez. "Sometimes it is hard to understand the age of James.

"He plays with a great maturity and understanding and the level of performance has been so consistent for a young man it shows you the quality he has got.

[tetsujin1979]

Martinez press conference on Sky Sports: http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,26691,12606_6468411,00.html

[Lenny82]

Ragin' this kid is going to miss the November friendly. Guess we'll have to wait til February!

[OwenGoal]

I would worry that he might not figure in the Celtic Cup, if Trap takes it seriously enough to avoid experimentation -as is his wont.

[rebelmusic]

Uruguay friendly so. I hope he gets invited to Norway regardless to be with the squad like they did for Maguire.

[The Fly]

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2010/10/28/2187662/wigan-athletic-boss-roberto-martinez-boosted-by-gary


Martinez revealed it could now be as long as 12 weeks before James McCarthy, who suffered ankle ligament damage after being tackled by Bolton Wanderers' Fabrice Muamba last Saturday, is fit for selection again.

"The whole joint needs a bit of work and the medial ligament is ruptured completely," Martinez said.

"We expect it to be between 10 and 12 weeks before we see James back. We have to reconstruct the joint just to make sure the ligament heals well and to make sure there are no further problems. We are still making the final decision on what is going to be the best way to go about the first three weeks of the rehab, but there is no fracture of the bone, which is what we feared a little bit before."

[tommy_c12000]

Hoping to be back before the end of January. Could have been a lot worse I suppose

http://www.rte.ie/aertel/221-02.html

[geysir]

I wonder why does Martinez think he will come back stronger and probably physically in a better situation, than he was before the injury.

[The Fly]

Just in time for the Nations Cup!

[Charlie Darwin]

I wonder why does Martinez think he will come back stronger and probably physically in a better situation, than he was before the injury.
I guess it will give him an opportunity to do some upper-body work. If the English media is correct - and it always is - that's the key to Gareth Bale's recent renaissance. Plus he has already pulled out of a couple of Irish squads with fatigue and some minor injuries.

[The Fly]

http://www.wigan.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=221817

[Crosby87]

http://www.wigan.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=221817

'The young Scot' :clover:

[The Fly]

McCarthy patient over return

http://www.setanta.com/ie/Articles/2010/12/21/McCarthy-patient-over-return/gnid-84026/

[Dunners]

Cant wait to see this lad in a Green shirt , he's the future star of the team

[Colbert Report]

Word from Wigan is that he's switched to Scotland.

[Scooby Doo]

Word from Wigan is that he's switched to Scotland.
This is a joke, right?