View Full Version : James McCarthy M free agent b.1990
kennedmc
18/08/2009, 3:19 PM
Maybe he had a lazy summer and just didn't show up in top condition?
I heard he's been laying into the Buckfast and deep fried Mars bars all summer ;)
eirebhoy
18/08/2009, 3:40 PM
I don't think it's an injury- I just read somewhere that Martinez said his fitness wasn't high enough for the Premier League.
Surely if he wanted to up his fitness he wouldn't have him on light training though.
"James has had a very light pre-season so far and at the moment he is not ready to play in an 11-on-11 situation."
youngirish
18/08/2009, 4:40 PM
Surely if he wanted to up his fitness he wouldn't have him on light training though.
"James has had a very light pre-season so far and at the moment he is not ready to play in an 11-on-11 situation."
That doesn't state he was doing light training it implies he's had a light pre-season which I'd imagine refers to the fact he hasn't played any games.
boovidge
18/08/2009, 4:49 PM
I heard he's been laying into the Buckfast and deep fried Mars bars all summer ;)
No, he's been drinking stout and eating Taytos.
Not in the squad either tonight. Martinez is a good manager and I reckon he will develop McCarthy as a player this season. The lad is very young and away from home for the first time, could be a while before we see him in first team action.
if he's in or around the first team in the new year then he might force his way into Traps plans if we are going to South Africa...
On the bench today against Man Utd, here we go, good luck...
Just came on, with roughly 20 mins to go. 3 goals down so no pressure for him.
Splurge
22/08/2009, 3:36 PM
Just came on, with roughly 20 mins to go. 3 goals down so no pressure for him.
Just got robbed by Gibson who hit a trademark wonderstrike, the future Irish midfield right there:D
ofjames
22/08/2009, 3:36 PM
Just came on, with roughly 20 mins to go. 3 goals down so no pressure for him.
gibson on for united too
edit
last 20 mins of the game was very disjointed with many stoppages in play. gibson was on the ball a few times and had one good shot from long range that tested kirkland. dont think mccarthy touched the ball.
Eirambler
22/08/2009, 8:11 PM
He played in a sort of advanced role on the left, didn't get into the game much, it was over as a contest anyway by the time he got on.
Good to see he's in the manager's first team thoughts anyway.
ofjames
22/08/2009, 8:46 PM
He played in a sort of advanced role on the left, didn't get into the game much, it was over as a contest anyway by the time he got on.
Good to see he's in the manager's first team thoughts anyway.
yeah, hopefully he will do well.
hard to believe he's only 18. seems to have the physical stature to compete anyway
gibson is really some threat from long distance. you fancy his chances of hitting the target every time he has space
will be interesting, long term, to see if McCarthy's box to box style is coached out of him to an extent playing alongside Sinclair or if a 3 man midfield is deployed.
Colbert Report
22/08/2009, 8:55 PM
How many times have you seen McCarthy play? I live in Canada too and today was only the second time he's been on TV here.
im waiting to watch that game - that will be the second or third time ill have seen him. I have seen lots of highlights (Hamilton and irish underage teams) of him online and on tv for Hamilton when i was back home.
Why?
Colbert Report
22/08/2009, 9:16 PM
You just seem extremely well informed on his style of play. "McCarthy's box to box style". I watched him chase a ball around for twenty minutes on the left hand side of midfield today.
Stuttgart88
22/08/2009, 9:34 PM
From the few times I've seen MCarthy I'd have said the term "box to box" is accurate.
Junior
24/08/2009, 9:59 PM
From the few times I've seen MCarthy I'd have said the term "box to box" is accurate.
I wouldnt, based on his performances for Hamilton last year but EB didnt agree with me in the past, so Id say its still very much out for the jury and at 18 he could become whatever type of midfielder he wants to be!!
irishfan86
24/08/2009, 11:30 PM
I think he's a player who could end up being a box-to-box midfielder, or even a second-forward type of attacking midfielder like Gerrard has become.
tetsujin1979
24/08/2009, 11:37 PM
I think Gerrard has become that kind of midfielder because it's where he wants to play, it's not necessarily his best position.
eirebhoy
25/08/2009, 2:22 AM
I wouldnt, based on his performances for Hamilton last year but EB didnt agree with me in the past, so Id say its still very much out for the jury and at 18 he could become whatever type of midfielder he wants to be!!
I think the reason he played such an advanced role for Hamilton is because he was Hamilton's best and most techically gifted player therefore they put him in a position to help create and score goals. But he's always been brilliant for me off the ball and tracks back like someone that has played the game for years. I certainly wouldn't class him as an attacking player no matter what position he plays for the time being.
macdermesser
26/08/2009, 10:51 AM
Looks like he is going to make his full debut for Wigan tonight in the Carling Cup
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/preview/0,16374,1809_5512958,00.html
The Legend
26/08/2009, 7:38 PM
not boding too well for wigan so far..
Eirambler
26/08/2009, 9:00 PM
McCarthy subbed off half way through the second half. think they were 3-0 down at that stage. I guess he'll need a while to adapt to the higher standard of football in England.
macdermesser
27/08/2009, 7:12 AM
just reading the minute by minute report on BBC .. he seemed to have quite a few touches of the ball, had a few shots saved and also took a couple of free kicks. hopefully he can kick on now and get to be in the first team squad.
paul_oshea
27/08/2009, 9:24 AM
Funny wigan are in serious trouble though and people were saying that he could not afford to go to a relegation fodder team. I had a feeling wigan would find themselves in this situation and given the heavy loses im not sure martinez can turn this around. Mores the point if wigan go down and mccarthy has an average season its going to be 3 or 4 years before we probably see him back in the premiership.....
Irish_Praha
27/08/2009, 5:25 PM
Funny wigan are in serious trouble though and people were saying that he could not afford to go to a relegation fodder team. I had a feeling wigan would find themselves in this situation and given the heavy loses im not sure martinez can turn this around. Mores the point if wigan go down and mccarthy has an average season its going to be 3 or 4 years before we probably see him back in the premiership.....
Jaysus Paul you're more doom and gloom than Dublin Mick.
eirebhoy
27/08/2009, 5:56 PM
That is one of the most pessimistic posts I've read on this forum alright. :D
The Legend
27/08/2009, 5:58 PM
early days. i think Martinez might make a good prem manager.
paul_oshea
27/08/2009, 9:11 PM
no DM is an agnostic depressed optimist, I'm merely pointing out what I think is right.
irishfan86
27/08/2009, 9:13 PM
Basically when Bruce left, and all of their best players were sold, I sensed trouble for Wigan.
Laid on them to get relegated, especially given that Martinez likes to play fancy football. Think West Brom part deux.
I don't mind losing my bet if McCarthy is a key figure in them staying up, but it would be a nice return....
carloz
27/08/2009, 9:31 PM
Basically when Bruce left, and all of their best players were sold, I sensed trouble for Wigan.
Laid on them to get relegated, especially given that Martinez likes to play fancy football. Think West Brom part deux.
I don't mind losing my bet if McCarthy is a key figure in them staying up, but it would be a nice return....
If they can repeat their first day performance against Villa on a regular basis then they will be mid table. I do worry about the quality of players they have sold but they might be lucky by the fact there are a lot of poor teams in the league this year who look like relegation fodder
eirebhoy
27/08/2009, 11:05 PM
Catermole was a strange sale. He's needed. The quality is there imo.
tetsujin1979
27/09/2009, 12:48 PM
McCarthy vows to make the grade at Wigan: http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/scottish/scottish_sport/523598/James-McCarthy-has-vowed-to-win-his-fight-to-impress-at-Wigan-Athletic.html
as_i_say
28/09/2009, 11:22 AM
was he even on bench yesterday against chelsea?
Deckydee
08/10/2009, 10:07 AM
Interview with him in regards to Italian match on Soccer Republic.
'U-21s pre italy game'
boovidge
08/10/2009, 12:53 PM
Can't find it. :confused:
rebelmusic
08/10/2009, 1:27 PM
It's in the vids section, "U21's Pre Italy Match"
Deckydee
21/10/2009, 6:44 AM
Just watching him again (soccer republic) taking free kicks. Hes got some boot on him
Colbert Report
03/11/2009, 10:52 PM
In eleven games so far, McCarthy has made only one substitute appearance, a 17 minute cameo against Manchester United on August 22. Too early to be calling him a bust? The hype around this guy was unreal, it certainly doesn't seem as though he deserved it. How long do you need to get your fitness levels up to Premiership quality? Surely three months is enough.
Has he been injured or something?
Jicked
03/11/2009, 11:58 PM
In eleven games so far, McCarthy has made only one substitute appearance, a 17 minute cameo against Manchester United on August 22. Too early to be calling him a bust? The hype around this guy was unreal, it certainly doesn't seem as though he deserved it. How long do you need to get your fitness levels up to Premiership quality? Surely three months is enough.
Has he been injured or something?
He's still a boy for god's sake, far too early to call him a bust. It does show how ridiculous arguments for him to have been included in Irish squads on the back of people seeing that he got a game with Hamilton was though. He is only 18, if we was a regular in a Premier League team then he'd be one of the best players in the world, up there with the likes of Rooney and Fabregas. Instead it will probably take him until he's 20/21 to break through like most other extremely talented youngsters, and he'll go on to have a great career. He might not be a Rooney or Fabregas but he will still surely be a very good player for us in the future despite that.
tetsujin1979
04/11/2009, 12:03 AM
Yes, there was a lot of hype around him, but it's easy to forget, he's not 19 until Thursday week! Robbie Keane was already 19 when he first played in the Premiership with Coventry, a similar sized club to Wigan.
McCarthy started against Blackpool in the league cup as well. Which Wigan lost. 4-1.
And he was on the bench last weekend against Portsmouth. Which Wigan lost. 4-0.
He was injured in preseason and didn't play for the reserves until September, when he scored on his debut VS Man United's second string. Since then he's played 4 times for the second XI, and seems to have done well in all games
some quotes from the official site:
VS United: http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/page/InReserve/0,,10429~1798343,00.html (http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/page/InReserve/0,,10429%7E1798343,00.html)
Despite falling further behind from David Ball's goal, Barrow's side refused to give in, and it was James McCarthy this time who kept the fight going.
McCarthy will certainly be proud of his strike, latching onto a cleared cross 25-yards out and hitting a sweet volley into the right-hand corner. A good performance all round from McCarthy, who seemed to have shaken off his niggling thigh injury.VS Blackburn: http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/page/InReserve/0,,10429~1806159,00.html (http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/page/InReserve/0,,10429%7E1806159,00.html)
James McCarthy was also given a start and was arguably man-of the-match, controlling the midfield and moving forward with plenty of intent.VS Hull: http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/page/InReserve/0,,10429~1832381,00.html (http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/page/InReserve/0,,10429%7E1832381,00.html)
Although Bullard's exit from the game allowed the likes of Jon Routledge and James McCarthy the freedom to express themselves and make an impact on the game, Latics looked to be the side that would go on and win the game.VS Bolton: http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/page/InReserve/0,,10429~1811488,00.html (http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/page/InReserve/0,,10429%7E1811488,00.html)
McCarthy went off at half time with the score 0-0. Bolton went on to win 3-0.
They were supposed to play Burnley tonight, but the game was called off due to a waterlogged pitch. Given that he'd started the previous 5 games in a row, there's no doubt in my mind he would have started against the Clarets.
Wigan are still adapting to a new style of football under a new coach, and are actually playing some good stuff. They're on a strange run at the moment, including wins over Chelsea, a draw with Man City and losses to Hull and Portsmouth. Martinez isn't going to throw him in at the deep end after the United game, but there's a fairly packed December coming up so I'd expect to see him play some part against Birmingham, Stoke, Bolton and Blackburn. Remember, Martinez tracked him when he was still the manager at Swansea, and even had a bid rejected. McCarthy was one of his first signings when he took over at the DW, so he definitely thinks McCarthy can cut it in the top division.
I saw him play for the U19s VS Portugal when he was still 17, and in the first team at the Accies, and genuinely thought he was the best outfield player on the pitch.
Let's not write him off just yet.
Jicked
04/11/2009, 12:05 AM
Frank Lampard didn't become a fixture in a Premier League side until he was over 20, I don't think we have to start worrying about McCarthy's progress just yet.
drummerboy
04/11/2009, 8:09 AM
Reckon he might be better off going out on loan to a championship team in January.
paul_oshea
04/11/2009, 8:13 AM
CR is a bit of a sensationalist, been over the other side of the pond for a bit too long I reckon. I wouldn't worry too much about Mccarthy yet.
Dont think its any harm if the lad has a quiet year of progression this season. Im not a big fan of the SPL and felt he needed to move on and develop. Wigan is a good club for him,away from the bright lights of London, good manager who will give him the opportunity in the first team.
Remember Roy the boy was in his early 20s before he really started making an impact so give the lad time yet. There is no doubt over his potential.
Junior
04/11/2009, 9:27 AM
Good post Tets - thanks for that info.
He'll be a great player for us in time. A nice gentle introduction to the PL is what is required, plenty of reserve football a bit of Carling Cup / FA Cup and a few bench appearances all in good time.
I agree with CR in that all the talk of a senior call up was nonsensical, like it was for Sheridan etc.....
dynamo kerry
04/11/2009, 10:46 AM
Good post Tets - thanks for that info.
He'll be a great player for us in time. A nice gentle introduction to the PL is what is required, plenty of reserve football a bit of Carling Cup / FA Cup and a few bench appearances all in good time.
I agree with CR in that all the talk of a senior call up was nonsensical, like it was for Sheridan etc.....
visibility in scotland is much higher for irish players considering the level of the game.
there's probably irish guys at peterborough who are very good that we simply don't know about - unless they are in u-17 squads etc.
little bit of an exaggeration but the scottish lads are overhyped. sheridan especially.
geysir
04/11/2009, 10:55 AM
Is there hype around Sheridan? or are you confusing praise with hype?
He looked alright in the last u21 game against the Swiss.
Junior
04/11/2009, 11:07 AM
Is there hype around Sheridan? or are you confusing praise with hype?
He looked alright in the last u21 game against the Swiss.
I think a bit of both has happened. Certainly there were posts looking for him to be in the senior setup - based on him appearing in the first 11 for Celtic - This was nonsensical imo.
Praise - Definitely been alot of this also and rightly deserved - thrown in to the deep end at Celtic (played at Old Trafford in the Champions League game) scored a few good SPL goals. Lots of rough edges and plenty of flaws in his game to iron out before getting anywhere near the Senior 11. I watched the Swiss U21 game and he did play very well. Hes getting physically stronger, ran the channels well - plenty more to do but fingers crossed he makes the grade.
Doesnt appear to be getting a starting berth at Plymouth though?
EDIT: Sorry he does have his own thread I know......
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