View Full Version : James McCarthy M free agent b.1990
Sullivinho
14/02/2011, 10:10 PM
Some journalist on BBC Radio Scotland tonight said he 'certainly believes' that McCarthy is 'seriously considering' playing for Scotland 'despite what his advisors are saying'. When asked whether he'd spoken to the player he 'takes the fifth amendment'. The discussion is here. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00y900m/Sportsound_Paper_Talk_with_Jim_Traynor_14_02_2011) 17 minutes in.
paul_oshea
14/02/2011, 10:12 PM
I've seen interviews with Mccarthy in the past.this thing about letting his agent do his talking sounds a bit meek
Noelys Guitar
14/02/2011, 10:44 PM
Some journalist on BBC Radio Scotland tonight said he 'certainly believes' that McCarthy is 'seriously considering' playing for Scotland 'despite what his advisors are saying'. When asked whether he'd spoken to the player he 'takes the fifth amendment'. The discussion is here. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00y900m/Sportsound_Paper_Talk_with_Jim_Traynor_14_02_2011) 17 minutes in.
Interesting stuff. The journo concerned did state that he would not be putting the story in his newspaper tomorrow which leads me to believe he might be a W. Mitty type or his info is second/third hand stuff. If he has spoken directly with McCarthy (as he seemed to indicate) then why let a scoop like that go.
Crosby87
14/02/2011, 11:10 PM
There are so many different voices coming from all over and none from the actual player. A bit silly in an annoying way, like reality TV.
irishfan86
14/02/2011, 11:21 PM
Some journalist on BBC Radio Scotland tonight said he 'certainly believes' that McCarthy is 'seriously considering' playing for Scotland 'despite what his advisors are saying'. When asked whether he'd spoken to the player he 'takes the fifth amendment'. The discussion is here. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00y900m/Sportsound_Paper_Talk_with_Jim_Traynor_14_02_2011) 17 minutes in.
Whatever about his advisers, why would his father go on the record saying he still wants to play for Ireland unless he was 100 per cent sure?
Sullivinho
14/02/2011, 11:26 PM
Interesting stuff. The journo concerned did state that he would not be putting the story in his newspaper tomorrow which leads me to believe he might be a W. Mitty type or his info is second/third hand stuff. If he has spoken directly with McCarthy (as he seemed to indicate) then why let a scoop like that go.
That's what I thought too tbh. Like Crosby said, there's no many voicing their angle on this that you'd think a journo with something genuinely new to add would jump at that chance.
Crosby87
15/02/2011, 12:25 AM
Whatever about his advisers, why would his father go on the record saying he still wants to play for Ireland unless he was 100 per cent sure?
Do we know for a fact his father even said that stuff? That's what is bothering me about all this, no matter how it turns out there are going to have been people lying or being lied to, obfuscating and talking out of turn, and making **** up for the papers. I too am apt to belive direct quotes as I realize it is liable to just make them up but i don't know. I would have to hear the guys voice myself i think in this case.
I was thinking this was all Bull**** until his manager spoke. I just can't figure out for the life of me what is going on. I mean he can't keep the boy from playing Internationally if the lad wants to, so why even get involved at all? I just want someone to tell me, is he going to be available for Macedonia or not? And if he was to be, wouldn't that mean he will have a rift with his manager? And if he isn't won't he have a rift with us? So whatever happens he is going to have issues somewhere next month I guess. It's never ending.
tricky_colour
15/02/2011, 12:41 AM
The whole thing is becoming ridiculous.
Why do these things happen to Ireland, it's like Saipan all over again.
He seems to be swopping allegiance every 4 hours.
All seems a bit fishy.
This could go on for months, years...
Can't say Trap helps much, if he was some little known League 1 player of limited ability he would have been capped years ago.
Seems as if the rule is "If the fans are keen on this player then don't pick him'.
Another things is, I wonder if Trap is 'in on it'?
SkStu
15/02/2011, 12:54 AM
yeah, its all a bit ridiculous. I almost feel as if it isnt worth it. Us Irish fans should have more respect for our country and team than is being shown by Trap and McCarthy and Martinez in this whole sorry episode. Really, what is stopping McCarthy from coming out and stating his choice? And if he really has to choose after already representing us then id prefer if he just picked Scotland and got it over with. And if he is getting his agent to do all his speaking for him then his agent is doing a terrible job of communicating clearly. What a sh!t-show.
Seems as if the rule is "If the fans are keen on this player then don't pick him'.
nice summary there. :)
Sullivinho
15/02/2011, 2:54 PM
Who would bother to make a fake Twitter account for a footballer?
Do you reckon that one is fake? I've resisted the whole twitter phenomenon so I wouldn't know how to spot one tbh although I hear it happens. Anyway, looks like the bio has been changed from 'U-21 level' to 'for Ireland at international level'.
Kingdom
15/02/2011, 3:05 PM
There is a brilliant Lucas Leiva fake twitter account that regularily gets an airing on boards.ie
Sullivinho
15/02/2011, 3:19 PM
There is a brilliant Lucas Leiva fake twitter account that regularily gets an airing on boards.ie
I remember seeing a Paddy McCourt one as well that had some savage wit on there, brilliant stuff.
tetsujin1979
15/02/2011, 4:29 PM
The fake Jamie Redknapp and Roy Hodgson ones are excellent
Scooby Doo
15/02/2011, 5:07 PM
Do you reckon that one is fake? I've resisted the whole twitter phenomenon so I wouldn't know how to spot one tbh although I hear it happens. Anyway, looks like the bio has been changed from 'U-21 level' to 'for Ireland at international level'.
Would all the links to other famous footballers and personalities not indicate that the twitter account is genuine? I don't know a whole lot about twitter so i'm just guessing. Looks pretty genuine. YBIG had his Facebook account link up at weekend. Doesn't give away much.
Also, listened to that Scottish radio piece and the journo with the 'sources' sounds full of sh!t IMO. Not one sliver of info that contradicts what George Gray, McCarthy's father and, if one poster on YBIG is to be believed, his cousins' version - which is that he is committed to Ireland. Not to mention the litany of other assertions by the player himself in the past that he is committed. Saying that, it would be great if he himself could come out once more and make a statement.
In this case I think its a mixture of confusion and maybe pig-headedness on Trap's part, Martinez being a smarmy, self-important pr!ck, Scottish clutching at straws and Irish paranoia.
gilberto_eire
15/02/2011, 7:45 PM
Would all the links to other famous footballers and personalities not indicate that the twitter account is genuine? I don't know a whole lot about twitter so i'm just guessing. Looks pretty genuine. YBIG had his Facebook account link up at weekend. Doesn't give away much.
Read the comments, it's obviously a 12 year old.
''@jackwilshere hi Jack, can you help me get some more followers please, your a great player.''
Keeps trying to initiate contact with footballers, just reeks of some 12 year old tbh.
I also doubt he'd call himself an ''u-21 international'' considering he's played senior.
Crosby87
15/02/2011, 11:43 PM
Yeah that feed is not real lol. I need to try to sell some of you a bridge in Brooklyn! Michael Jackson and Tupac have twitter feeds. Do you think they use that as a medium to speak from beyond?!!
AlaskaFox
16/02/2011, 8:27 AM
Former Republic of Ireland manager Brian Kerr, also speaking to Today FM, was critical of Giovanni Trapattoni for failing to contact the player directly to clarify the issue. “It’s a strange situation that the manager hasn’t got a player’s phone number in the first case and it also appeared that Trapattoni was blaming an agent’s involvement in maybe trying to persuade the player, but then again it’s hard to understand what he is actually saying at the press conferences.
“It would be nice if the speculation was ended by Trapattoni going to a match and making an appointment to see the player after the game and clear the issue up. James McCarthy looks like he could be top notch and we need to do whatever it takes to get him and that’s the manager’s biggest responsibility.”
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0214/1224289738693.html
I think this matter should be left to lie now. Call him up for the Macedonia game, if he answers the call which I very much expect him to then there ya go, worries over. If he pulls out then it is serious. One way or another you cant make the lad play for us, but by all accounts there is little reason to think that he doesnt want to.
Scooby Doo
16/02/2011, 10:43 AM
Yeah that feed is not real lol. I need to try to sell some of you a bridge in Brooklyn! Michael Jackson and Tupac have twitter feeds. Do you think they use that as a medium to speak from beyond?!!
:confused2:
Deckydee
16/02/2011, 11:41 AM
From 'The Tartan Army' messageboard
The rumour I heard is that he doesn't want to be involved in the Rep of Ireland v Scotland game and that is why the "thinking of club football until the summer" line has come out.
IsMiseSean
16/02/2011, 1:55 PM
From 'The Tartan Army' messageboard
The rumour I heard is that he doesn't want to be involved in the Rep of Ireland v Scotland game and that is why the "thinking of club football until the summer" line has come out.
If that is the case then surely he could be called up for the Macedonia game capped towards the end if the game is in the bag. Start against NI and then pick up a little knock come the Scotland game.
Fergie's Son
16/02/2011, 3:57 PM
That would be a win-win. It should be let die until the Macedonia game. Trapp should call him up and Jamie should appear and be capped if he's fit and good enough to play (based on training etc.) then we can get back to the real issue here which is qualifying!
Fixer82
16/02/2011, 6:15 PM
If James is injured for Macedonia game he needs to make some manner of gesture to the Irish team to end the speculation. Whether it's travelling with the team or simply holding a press conference or interview giving his support to the team.
Otherwise we'll have yet another tabloid frenzy that does nobody any good other than those who profit from selling rag newspapers
If James is injured for Macedonia game he needs to make some manner of gesture to the Irish team to end the speculation. Whether it's travelling with the team or simply holding a press conference or interview giving his support to the team.
id be happy with a cast! :)
gastric
17/02/2011, 5:17 AM
:cool:
If James is injured for Macedonia game he needs to make some manner of gesture to the Irish team to end the speculation. Whether it's travelling with the team or simply holding a press conference or interview giving his support to the team.
Otherwise we'll have yet another tabloid frenzy that does nobody any good other than those who profit from selling rag newspapers
Once the gesture doesn't involve him giving us the finger, I'll be happy. Can I also say a thank you to James for providing some discussion on here in the last few weeks because it's been that quiet of late that I think we might soon see tumbleweed on our computer screens. Now might be a good time to start taking the p##s out of Ealing Green and Not Brazil to liven things up a bit!
drummerboy
17/02/2011, 7:42 AM
Martinez is certainly wrapping McCarthy in cotton wool. He didn't start last night. So the longer this story runs, the better it is for Martinez.
geysir
17/02/2011, 10:20 AM
About that rumour from the TA board.
'the rumour I heard is that he doesn't want to be involved in the Rep of Ireland v Scotland game and that is why the "thinking of club football until the summer" line has come out.'
To my understanding that is not even a rumour. It is taken from the article in the Guardian,
where it was written,
"It may be the summer when McCarthy decides"
because, the journalist thought that "McCarthy is unlikely to want involvement" in the game against Scotland.
All pure conjecture.
Sullivinho
17/02/2011, 1:32 PM
:cool:
Once the gesture doesn't involve him giving us the finger, I'll be happy. Can I also say a thank you to James for providing some discussion on here in the last few weeks because it's been that quiet of late that I think we might soon see tumbleweed on our computer screens. Now might be a good time to start taking the p##s out of Ealing Green and Not Brazil to liven things up a bit!
A United Ireland within 100 years. Absolutely inevitable.
Stuttgart88
17/02/2011, 1:36 PM
Martinez is certainly wrapping McCarthy in cotton wool. He didn't start last night. So the longer this story runs, the better it is for Martinez.Dropped surely? Like Anthony Stokes recently :)
AlaskaFox
17/02/2011, 8:04 PM
Scottish Telegraph:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/scotland/8317318/James-McCarthy-should-not-rush-his-decision-over-switch-to-Scotland-urges-Stephen-Caldwell.html#
James McCarthy should not rush his decision over switch to Scotland, urges Stephen Caldwell
As speculation mounts that James McCarthy could switch from the Republic of Ireland to Scotland, Stephen Caldwell, who played in the Scots’ Carling Nations Cup win over Northern Ireland in Dublin, declared that he is not trying to influence his Wigan team-mate to change.
Caldwell has admitted to a mentoring role in respect of his younger colleague and the Scotland defender’s presence in the same club dressing room has prompted some Irish observers to suggest that he has an interest in swaying McCarthy’s loyalty.
“I’m not aware of any talks going on in the background. They are citing me as a mover – that’s interesting. Maybe I’ll sue!” Caldwell joked, before agreeing that the midfield player – who has drawn praise for his development since leaving Hamilton Accies last summer – would represent a coup for Scotland if he does choose to accept international duties under Craig Levein.
“He’d be a tremendous addition for Scotland. He’s playing for Ireland just now and I have friends who play for Ireland and I’m sure they want to keep him,” said Caldwell. “I’m sure he’ll make the right call and I won’t force him into a decision. We want good players and if he wants to play for us then I’m sure there will be a place for him. He’s pure class and as fit as anyone I’ve seen. He’s strong even though he’s quite small and wiry. He’s under great guidance from Roberto Martinez, Graeme Jones and the rest of the staff.”
Giovanni Trapattoni said after the Republic of Ireland’s 3-0 victory over Wales in the Carling Nations Cup that he will include the Glasgow-born McCarthy – who qualifies to play for Ireland through the grandparent rule – in his squad for the Euro 2012 qualifier with Macedonia in March. However, Martinez did not rule out the possibility that the player could swap a green jersey for the dark blue of Scotland.
“I do not know if it is a decision for him to make now or not. We need to give him plenty of time. We need to respect him,” said the Wigan manager.
If McCarthy should opt for Scotland, he will be competing for selection in the strongest department of Levein’s squad, as Caldwell acknowledged. “We already have some fantastic footballers in the Scotland midfield but the more the merrier.
“Competition breeds success and it pushes everyone to play better. I think he’d be a great addition to the Scotland squad.”
As for his own appearance against Northern Ireland – made possible by injury to his brother, Gary – Caldwell expressed satisfaction, although he was denied a goal from a Charlie Adam corner kick by a combination of the crossbar and failure to get his header away properly.
“I enjoyed the 90 minutes and the clean sheet and I’m so optimistic for the future of Scottish football,” he said. “There is a togetherness that’s developing and becoming stronger every trip.
“I should have scored. It was a fantastic ball in from Charlie and just dipped at the last minute.
“I didn’t get it cleanly and it came off my shoulder. I was a bit disappointed but I’d rather have a clean sheet than score.
“The game was a continuation of the way we played against the Faroes. We moved the ball well, we were sharp and we stopped them – overall a good performance.
“I felt we dropped a bit with the substitutions. It’s only natural as it’s hard for guys to come up and be up to speed right away.
“For 60 minutes it was superb and the boss did the right thing to give others a chance. We lost a bit of the edge, but we didn’t lose a goal and we kept the basics right.”
Kris Commons, who scored Scotland’s third to add to a sequence that has seen him find the net for Celtic against Aberdeen in the Co-operative Insurance Cup semi-final and against Rangers in last week’s Scottish Cup Old Firm derby, echoed Caldwell’s thoughts about the performance.
“We played well, we kept the ball well, we had good positions and the interchanging between players meant we looked more like a club team than an international side,” said Commons.
From the direct quotes, it's another non-story, but thought I'd post it anyway.
sorry AlaskaFox... i have no more tears left to cry...
ArdeeBhoy
18/02/2011, 4:03 PM
Apparantly he read this thread and decided to declare for Wales instead....
;)
tetsujin1979
21/02/2011, 1:55 PM
from today's Irish Times: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0214/1224289738693.html
ACCORDING TO his manager at Wigan Athletic, James McCarthy won’t decide on his international future until the summer, Roberto Martinez revealing on Saturday that the player will not make himself available for the Republic of Ireland next month for the Euro 2012 qualifier against Macedonia and the friendly with Uruguay four days later.
Number of mentions by Martinez about Macedonia in the article: 0
Number of mentions by Martinez about Uruguay in the article: 0
Number of quotes from McCarthy in the article: 0
Number of quotes from McCarthy's representatives/family in the article: 0
Jesus wept
IsMiseSean
21/02/2011, 2:15 PM
from today's Irish Times: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0214/1224289738693.html
Pathetic journalism...
James McCarthy will be playing for us for many a year. I've full faith in him.
Predator
21/02/2011, 2:22 PM
That article is dated February 14th. I think the media whirlwind has already blown over.
shakermaker1982
21/02/2011, 2:25 PM
When sport journalists write articles and make statements shouldn't it be based on a source/fact? Guessing what somebody has said and then proclaiming it as fact is pure lunacy.
paul_oshea
21/02/2011, 2:58 PM
I read that article last week.
they do in England shakers, those "sources" being tapped phone lines :D
Sullivinho
21/02/2011, 5:04 PM
We are currently experiencing a period known as 'the calm'.
'The storm' will be along shortly, possibly as early as next month..
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/oUdU56qaGUU/0.jpg
The Fly
21/02/2011, 7:02 PM
A welcome diversion - James McCarthy: The Latics Heart Beat (http://www.wigan.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=232374)
Predator
21/02/2011, 8:49 PM
We are currently experiencing a period known as 'the calm'.
'The storm' will be along shortly, possibly as early as next month..
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/oUdU56qaGUU/0.jpg
Would it not be more apt to describe this as the 'Eye'?
Uncle_Joe
21/02/2011, 11:11 PM
Would it not be more apt to describe this as the 'Eye'?
You can`t fit a hurricane in a tea cup. :p
TiocfaidhArmani
22/02/2011, 4:12 PM
I live in Scotland and the media have stopped talking about it. His representative has said it's not going to happen and he doesn't know where this has come from. I'm shocked the Irish media are still on about it.
Charlie Darwin
22/02/2011, 4:50 PM
I think they've stopped here as well. There's minimal interest in stuff like this outside the international window, so I'm sure it will all flare up again in a couple of weeks.
geysir
22/02/2011, 6:54 PM
Even 'british manager' Brian Kerr got in on the act and was quoted in that IT Hannigan article, having yet another go at Trap, on stuff he just read about James and assumed it as fact.
Has nobody told him yet, that he has become the quintessential moaning bitter Dub, as he slithers and slides around the bottom of the barrel of professional ignominy.
Stuttgart88
22/02/2011, 7:52 PM
What's being a Dub got to do with it?
gastric
22/02/2011, 8:07 PM
What's being a Dub got to do with it?
Aren't all Dubs like that!
paul_oshea
22/02/2011, 8:08 PM
Ah come on Stutts don't be so naive
drummerboy
22/02/2011, 8:08 PM
Everything is clear now. Craig Levine and Martinez sitting in the stand at the Spurs v Blackpool game.
TrapAPony
22/02/2011, 8:17 PM
Everything is clear now. Craig Levine and Martinez sitting in the stand at the Spurs v Blackpool game.
Saw that myself. Martinez certainly isn't for our benefit anyway.
geysir
23/02/2011, 1:43 PM
What's being a Dub got to do with it?
Being a Dub defines the deformed accented english he moans in.
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