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Colbert Report
09/03/2010, 2:02 PM
I take back everything I said earlier in this thread about this lad. He looks like the real deal.

Charlie Darwin
09/03/2010, 2:39 PM
Yes i think you could see that McCarthy has a lot of respect the way he dealt with Stevie G's tackle, imagine if that was young James who put in the Tackle on stevie G what the English press would be saying if Mr.G missed the world cup over a crazy lunge like that.I think the tackle was horrible and no matter how frustrated he was a lunge like that from an expierenced premier leauge player should not be condoned.
Wasn't a "crazy lunge" to be fair.

DeLorean
09/03/2010, 2:41 PM
Wasn't a "crazy lunge" to be fair.

Nah, twas just a bit of frustration and he went through him a bit. No big deal really.

KK77
09/03/2010, 3:30 PM
Can only back up with what's being said the fella had a cracking game last night. Bags of energy and bursts into the box. If he continues at this rate it won't be long before Stephen Ireland is all but forgotten.

tetsujin1979
09/03/2010, 4:14 PM
Liverpool must be kicking themselves, if they had acted earlier, they would have had Gerrard and McCarthy playing beside each other, instead of against each other

Brendan 82
09/03/2010, 4:19 PM
Liverpool must be kicking themselves, if they had acted earlier, they would have had Gerrard and McCarthy playing beside each other, instead of against each other

No way, Benitez would have already ruined him. I want McCarthy to stay as far away as possible from that awful man.

DeLorean
09/03/2010, 4:25 PM
No way, Benitez would have already ruined him. I want McCarthy to stay as far away as possible from that awful man.

There's no way he'd play him ahead of Lucas anyway!!

tricky_colour
09/03/2010, 6:40 PM
Can only back up with what's being said the fella had a cracking game last night. Bags of energy and bursts into the box. If he continues at this rate it won't be long before Stephen Ireland is all but forgotten.

Who?

Actually I just seen a "slapheads eleven" in some papers website, Stephen Ireland didn't even make the bench!!
. .

tricky_colour
09/03/2010, 6:42 PM
Nah, twas just a bit of frustration and he went through him a bit. No big deal really.

The tackle was actually a compliment in a way, Gerrard admitting he had been outplayed.

boovidge
09/03/2010, 7:57 PM
Also on a different topic, can we call him the young Irish man or will he aways be the young Scott.

He's listed as Scottish on his BBC profile even though it shows his Irish appearences in his season stats. It's hard to let go :)

Maroon 7
09/03/2010, 8:57 PM
Liverpool must be kicking themselves, if they had acted earlier, they would have had Gerrard and McCarthy playing beside each other, instead of against each other

I believe it was McCarthy's decision himself to go back to Hamilton and get more experience. I know he played in a friendly for Liverpool and even scored a cracker in the game but he probably thought he would be lost in the shuffle at Anfield. Still most young lads would have signed on the dotted line without a moments hesitation when at the club of their favourite player. He showed some maturity in making a decision to stay at Hamilton.

He does remind me of a young Gerrard though. Looks kinda similiar and even has the same body type.

Colbert Report
10/03/2010, 7:47 AM
I believe it was McCarthy's decision himself to go back to Hamilton and get more experience. I know he played in a friendly for Liverpool and even scored a cracker in the game but he probably thought he would be lost in the shuffle at Anfield. Still most young lads would have signed on the dotted line without a moments hesitation when at the club of their favourite player. He showed some maturity in making a decision to stay at Hamilton.

He does remind me of a young Gerrard though. Looks kinda similiar and even has the same body type.

I don't believe he ever played for Liverpool in a friendly, but I do remember reading a story about him chipping Reina during a training session whilst on trial.

desmondoldie
10/03/2010, 8:04 AM
I don't believe he ever played for Liverpool in a friendly, but I do remember reading a story about him chipping Reina during a training session whilst on trial.

I think he did play i freindly for the youths whilst on trial at the club. Apparantley Gearrard was passing the field at the time and McCarthy scored a cracker and I think Gearrards words where "SIGN HIM UP" But thank god liverpool didn't follow it up, Benitez would manage to kill his raw talent.
Ill try find link

tetsujin1979
10/03/2010, 9:29 AM
AFAIR he did play in a behind closed doors fixture, but it was little more than a training game. Some of the reserve team were involved, but I don't think any of the senior team were.

KK77
10/03/2010, 9:33 AM
Who?

Actually I just seen a "slapheads eleven" in some papers website, Stephen Ireland didn't even make the bench!!
. .
Yeah exactly who. Done nothing for City this season.

tetsujin1979
10/03/2010, 9:41 AM
He's been injured quite a bit since December. I did wonder if all the extra weights and kick boxing training he did over the summer has had a negative effect on his conditioning?

KK77
10/03/2010, 10:38 AM
He's been injured quite a bit since December. I did wonder if all the extra weights and kick boxing training he did over the summer has had a negative effect on his conditioning?

Yeah true. Should have concentrated on getting his brain conditioned! Going off topic now sorry.

geysir
10/03/2010, 11:16 AM
AFAIR he did play in a behind closed doors fixture, but it was little more than a training game. Some of the reserve team were involved, but I don't think any of the senior team were.

This article suggests James turned down a move to Liverpool and "Peter Crouch and Dirk Kuyt were playing".
Turning down Liverpool was the best move of my career (http://www.people.co.uk/sport/tm_headline=turning-down-rafa-was-the-best-move-of-my-career&method=full&objectid=22091442&siteid=93463-name_page.html)

seanfhear
10/03/2010, 6:24 PM
I think he did play i freindly for the youths whilst on trial at the club. Apparantley Gearrard was passing the field at the time and McCarthy scored a cracker and I think Gearrards words where "SIGN HIM UP" But thank god liverpool didn't follow it up, Benitez would manage to kill his raw talent.
Ill try find link
Keep Benitez away from Irish players please !. Actually keep Benitez away from all footballers full stop.

SkStu
11/03/2010, 1:07 AM
Actually keep Benitez away from all footballers full stop.

except the ones that play for Liverpool please!

tricky_colour
16/03/2010, 7:23 PM
He's just scored an own goal, it didn't sound too clever (I didnt see it), but he won the free kick which got the equaliser.
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Seemed to try and clear it over his head or something but he miss-kicked it and it ended up looping into the net.

DeLorean
18/03/2010, 1:26 PM
It was bad own goal alright but he responded well. Like you say he won the free straight after and was heavily involved in anything Wigan produced for the rest of the half. Bramble was very good with him after the goal, arm around him telling him to forget about it. Scharner, who was a sub, went straight over to him at the half time whistle as well, again walking him off the pitch with the arm around him offering words of encouragement. In a way I thought this was nearly bringing too much attention to it but I'm sure he meant well. He seemed to have a quite enough second half, judging from the highlights and was replaced by Scharner on 71 minutes.

tricky_colour
18/03/2010, 5:37 PM
Yea it was unfortunate, he just tried to hook it out but it caught the wrong side of his foot.
Just bad luck really those things can happen when you are close to the goal.
Not doubt the will be more careful in future!!

Serb
19/03/2010, 11:24 AM
I wouldn't worry too much about an own goal. Richard Dunne has scored enough of them and is still top class :D

ofjames
21/03/2010, 2:55 PM
tabloid rumour linking james to arsenal

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/football/exposed/760763/GUNNERS-BOSS-WENGER-CHASING-McCARTHY.html

tricky_colour
21/03/2010, 3:17 PM
I'm not sure if Wenger taking an interest in him is a good thing or not.

Colbert Report
21/03/2010, 3:55 PM
how could it possibly be a bad thing?

SkStu
21/03/2010, 4:02 PM
(obviously a rumour) but it would unquestionably be a good thing. Sort of player Arsenal need actually (young and talented holding midfielder)

Brendan 82
21/03/2010, 4:42 PM
I think he is progressing well at Wigan. The manager rates him, looks like they will stay up, and he plays regularly; I don't see any good reason to leave.

SkStu
21/03/2010, 4:49 PM
dont get me wrong i have no problem with him staying at Wigan, i just dont see how a move to Wenger's Arsenal (if Wigan were selling) would be a bad move!!

seanfhear
21/03/2010, 5:00 PM
Is'nt Wenger allergic to most Irish/British players:D

How he did not buy Shay Given is a bit of a mystery for example !

Brendan 82
21/03/2010, 5:09 PM
dont get me wrong i have no problem with him staying at Wigan, i just dont see how a move to Wenger's Arsenal (if Wigan were selling) would be a bad move!!

I'm not saying it would be a bad move, potentially great, I'm saying that it could be a bad move. Right now its not broken so I would not be inclined to fix it.

Nagger
22/03/2010, 8:51 AM
Training day in, day out, with topclass players, under a topclass coach. It could only benefit him. I hope he makes the move.

But i think the player would probably want to staty at Wigan himself. He wasnt in a hurry to leave Hamilton. I think he'll do the same at Wigan.

tetsujin1979
22/03/2010, 9:08 AM
he had the chance of moving to Liverpool and Celtic while at Hamilton and chose to stay in favour of first team football. There's no doubt that Arsenal are a better team than Wigan, but would he get in the team at the moment? What about when Ramsey (please God) returns? My guess is he will stay at Wigan for at least another season (he'll still only be 20 at the end of the 2010/2011 season) and then move on to greener pastures.

Yard of Pace
22/03/2010, 9:39 AM
he had the chance of moving to Liverpool and Celtic while at Hamilton and chose to stay in favour of first team football. There's no doubt that Arsenal are a better team than Wigan, but would he get in the team at the moment? What about when Ramsey (please God) returns? My guess is he will stay at Wigan for at least another season (he'll still only be 20 at the end of the 2010/2011 season) and then move on to greener pastures.

That's crazy to think about when you see how comfortable he looks playing every week already! He's got a nice touch, he makes things happen, he's got a good physique already....it's really really exciting.

SkStu
22/03/2010, 2:15 PM
Has anyone else noticed how good his set pieces (corners) are? Ball gets into the right area for his attaackers every time. He's going to be a massive player. He's got it all.

Charlie Darwin
22/03/2010, 3:25 PM
I've been impressed with Gibson's set-piece delivery for United too. Lawrence and Duff do it regularly for their clubs too, but they don't seem to replicate it on the international stage, so hopefully we'll improve in that area in the future. Hunt's the only person who seems to hit his man more than 50% of the time.

DeLorean
22/03/2010, 3:31 PM
He could have had a penalty on Saturday as well. I thought at first it was a blatent dive but the replays showed there was contact. He was looking for it I think but still could easily have been given. Seemed to be involved in most of Wigan's positive play again.

Charlie Darwin
28/03/2010, 4:18 AM
http://www.givemefootball.com/GMF/files/01/01f12503-dc9b-47e6-b83d-55801a97892a.jpg

I can't believe how small he is!

Junior
30/03/2010, 8:50 AM
Went to the City v Wigan game last night. Kept a close watch on McCarthy and he did ok, lots of energy and although Wigan played a kind of 4-2-3-1 of which McCarthy was one of the 3, he seemed to do most of his good work tracking back and putting in a few decent tackles.

Wigan were generally muck (City werent much better) but did have a few good chances when the scoreline was still 0-0. Once Wigan were down to 10 men, City stepped it up.

As I said he did ok but certainly wasnt a key player in the game for either side. 6/10.

Deckydee
31/03/2010, 10:28 AM
Hi Gents,

Was looking around for links on this McCarthy moving to Arse-nil story and I found this quiet by accident.

Its not that nice. - http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/93101-james-mccarthy-for-scotland/

I belive that anonther poster posted something like this a while back and was astonished by the reaction. I think this is worse

irishfan86
31/03/2010, 10:53 AM
Deckydee -- that stuff is from 2008. It wasn't pleasant, but it's over now in the main as most Scots have moved past the fact that he won't play for them now that he's been capped.

Let's move on.

Deckydee
31/03/2010, 10:57 AM
Deckydee -- that stuff is from 2008. It wasn't pleasant, but it's over now in the main as most Scots have moved past the fact that he won't play for them now that he's been capped.

Let's move on.

Indeed :)

Cant say I like reading those things though.

Crosby87
31/03/2010, 11:33 AM
Ah if one of our best young prospects chose another country we would all be steamed too.

tricky_colour
31/03/2010, 3:30 PM
Not if he was Scottish.

Charlie Darwin
31/03/2010, 9:26 PM
To be fair we have a few lunatics around here too. I'm sure most Scots are disappointed but realise it's a done deal.

Crosby87
31/03/2010, 10:24 PM
Technically its not yet charlie.

Charlie Darwin
31/03/2010, 11:48 PM
Realistically it is.

fu1ham
06/04/2010, 10:23 PM
Went to Fulham v Wigan on Sunday. I wasn't impressed with McCarthy, whom I'd really been looking forward to seeing. Admittedly Wigan were poor, but he did nothing for me to justify the high hopes for him on this board. Tidy, fit , reasonable short passing game, but no more than championship standard, sub-Whelan. Let's wait a couple of years before we get too excited.

tommy_c12000
06/04/2010, 10:44 PM
Went to Fulham v Wigan on Sunday. I wasn't impressed with McCarthy, whom I'd really been looking forward to seeing. Admittedly Wigan were poor, but he did nothing for me to justify the high hopes for him on this board. Tidy, fit , reasonable short passing game, but no more than championship standard, sub-Whelan. Let's wait a couple of years before we get too excited.

Don't agree with that assertion. I saw the first half. Thought he was reasonable. He didn't give the ball away once. Sprayed the ball around well and had a nice pass releasing Rodallega. The bottom line is that Wigan are appalling. Bramble is still as accident prone as ever, Scharner can;t seem to keep things simple and constantly gives the ball away in dangerous areas, Diame gives the ball away too much in the middle of the park. Figeroa and N'Zogbia aside, McCarthy simply has nothing to work with. I've seen a good bit of McCarthy by this stage and have been really impressed with what I've seen but I don't think we'll see what he is fully capable until he is playing with a better team