Transfer Rumours

[Longfordian]

Hmm, I think you're telling porkie pies there maroon_ultra. Bad and all as Cousins is, to have Dessie alongside him as assistant?!. He was never noted for his discipline and work ethic.

[Black and White]

Where did you get that rumour from!! We dont want to be going backwards...thats why Gill hasnt been offered a new contract(which is a disgrace) Gerry Mathews has said umpteen times this week in papers, radio etc that he wants the club to move in the right direction...any appointment of the likes if Cousins, Collins, John Ryan, Jeff Kenna would be a joke.

hate to say but id like Pat Scully at the post if not Gill on the basis that he takes no nonscience from players and has them out the door straight away...alot like John Gill!

[Louth4sam]

te to say but id like Pat Scully at the post if not Gill on the basis that he takes no nonscience from players and has them out the door straight away...alot like John Gill!

What is nonscience? Is that like saying the world is flat and we all evolved from Adam and Eve?

[placid casual]

Ive put this on Rovers part aswell,but heard that Jeff Kenna is mulling over the Shamrock Rovers job at the minute.

The Rovers management position has been filled.
It just hasnt been press released yet.
and its not kenna
or jason macateer.:rolleyes:

[passinginterest]

The Rovers management position has been filled.
and its not jason macateer.:rolleyes:

I for one am saddened by this fact :(

[Jersey Cow]

New Rovers manager Stephen Kenny
New Dundalk manager Aaron Callaghan with ex player and Youth manager John Whyte as his assistant! :ball:

[KBurke]

The Rovers management position has been filled.
It just hasnt been press released yet.
and its not kenna
or jason macateer.:rolleyes:




Really hope this is true

[maroon ultra]

If Kenna does leave it will not be for another Irish club.

[Longfordian]

New Dundalk manager Aaron Callaghan with ex player and Youth manager John Whyte as his assistant! :ball:

Doubt it. His previous management gigs haven't turned out well. Not all his fault but he wasn't blameless either. Very good coach though.

[kev mcq]

What is nonscience? Is that like saying the world is flat and we all evolved from Adam and Eve?

It's the opposite of science

[sligoman]

Bohs have signed Shelley supposedly...and the crazy wages hasn't stopped either from what I heard. This is the rumours thread though, nothing concrete before Bohs fans come on giving out;).

[Longfordian]

Apparently they're taking their case to the Supreme Court. Now how they're going to fund that is anyone's guess.

[irishultra]

john fitzgerald to rovers ;)

[Dalymountrower]

Apparently they're taking their case to the Supreme Court. Now how they're going to fund that is anyone's guess.

Not too expensive, 150 k or so , the profit from the cup final more or less. Given the amount ultimately at stake, its certainly worth a go. Am very much in the minority in Dalymount on this but strategically appealing puts us in a much stronger position.

[pineapple stu]

How so?

[Longfordian]

Not too expensive, 150 k or so , the profit from the cup final more or less. Given the amount ultimately at stake, its certainly worth a go. Am very much in the minority in Dalymount on this but strategically appealing puts us in a much stronger position.

If it goes to trial in the Supreme Court I can't see it costing only 150k and if you lose which has to be a possibility you're even more screwed. Then there's the fact that it could be two or three years dragging on, whilst Bohs have debts to pay and no money coming from any deal. I don't see how it makes your position any stronger?.

[pineapple stu]

if you lose which has to be a possibility you're even more screwed.
I'd say it's a probability more than a possibility, given how damning the judge's report appears to have been.

But I'm not sure they have much of a choice either.

[Longfordian]

Haven't read much of the report but the bits I have read on various forums don't show Bohs directors in a good light alright.

[WoodquayBoy]

john fitzgerald to rovers ;)
They're welcome to him. In reference to earlier post about Stephen kenny being new Rovers manager, local paper here said quotes someone at Rovers saying the club are still interviewing for manager's job this week

[Sheridan]

I'm sure something I stepped in the other day told me the Shams post had been filled.

[Schumi]

Apparently they're taking their case to the Supreme Court. Now how they're going to fund that is anyone's guess.Even if they don't win, this might be useful as a delaying tactic to give them time to get money to cover potential repayments to Liam Carroll.

[blackholesun]

dont worry all GUFC fans, I do not know who it will be, but I do know that Kenna will deffo not be getting the Rovers job!

bhs

[Dalymountrower]

I'd say it's a probability more than a possibility, given how damning the judge's report appears to have been.

But I'm not sure they have much of a choice either.




If it goes to trial, thankfully it will be on points of law rather than the credibility of an allegedly inebriated Director. We certainly have a better chance to win the appeal on the "dry" legal points than we had to win the High Court case

[WoodquayBoy]

dont worry all GUFC fans, I do not know who it will be, but I do know that Kenna will deffo not be getting the Rovers job!

bhs
If you don't know who the Rovers manager is then to say the above means you must known where he WILL be next season - care to enlighten us?

[maroon ultra]

The job at rovers has been reduced to 3 candidates and I would say Kenna is not one of them. As I have said already on here, Kenna will not be going to another Irish team. It all depends on offers from England.

[pineapple stu]

If it goes to trial, thankfully it will be on points of law rather than the credibility of an allegedly inebriated Director. We certainly have a better chance to win the appeal on the "dry" legal points than we had to win the High Court case
The High Court decision was on points of law too, not on how drunk the directors were. The condemnation of them seems only to emphasise how little legal ground youz had, which will presumably be the case in the Supreme Court as well.

[micls]

Gamble signed a new 3 year deal http://corkcityfc.ie/main.php

Aleeady had a contract so basically its just him taking a pay cut. Good to hear

[garyderry]

Gamble signed a new 3 year deal http://corkcityfc.ie/main.php

Aleeady had a contract so basically its just him taking a pay cut. Good to hear

Thats very good to hear some of the top players are willing to stay
and take a pay cut.

[micls]

Thats very good to hear some of the top players are willing to stay
and take a pay cut.
And a bit surprising tbh.

From what I hear its a substantial paycut, and he's certainly one player who could get a deal elsewhere.

Sounds from the squad are that they all want to stay and are willing to take the hit to do so(though some have little choice).

In fairness to Mathews he led the way in this taking a voluntary paycut himself.

Neither Joe or Mathews had to do this and could have forced us to pay them what we agreed to

[Candystripe]

Derry have given Higgins and Grey new two year full-time contracts.

[sligoman]

If you don't know who the Rovers manager is then to say the above means you must known where he WILL be next season - care to enlighten us?Or it could just mean he knows that the Shamrock board were never interested in Kenna.

[LeixlipRed]

Derry have given Higgins and Grey new two year full-time contracts.

How did Gray do this year? Played schoolboy football for same team as me

[garyderry]

How did Gray do this year? Played schoolboy football for same team as me

Bit of a mixed bag, started off pretty poor but got better all seasson
at left back, real mixed opinion amoung the fans too, some say did well
and some just never took to him all season.

i for one am glad he signed, higgins too
despite the constant rumours of him signing for bohs

[Dalymountrower]

The High Court decision was on points of law too, not on how drunk the directors were. The condemnation of them seems only to emphasise how little legal ground youz had, which will presumably be the case in the Supreme Court as well.


Justice Edwards didn`t believe the particular former Directors account, and believed the developer, which tells its own story! Rather than finding against us on simple contract grounds he strayed into murkey issues of enforcement of equitable interests in a portion of the lands. Presume what you like about the outcome in the Supreme Court but when the full HC judgement is up on the Courts Service you may hold a different view.

[niallsparky]

Joxer has left Bohs apparantly.

[micls]

Joxer has left Bohs apparantly.

Any rumour as to where he's headed?

[niallsparky]

Any rumour as to where he's headed?

I presume it will be Dublin or surrounding area. Pats or Rovers are good bets. Doubt he'll be leaving the league.

[Aaron]

Following rumours on Derry forum:

We are chasing Brian Shelley, Ollie Cahill, Ken Oman and Richard Clarke. 5 players to be let go. Sean Hargan already released and 4 others to follow.

I'd say Jennings, Martyn, Dennehy and McHugh will be others.

Higgsy coming back to replace Reynolds

Killian Brennan was talking to Kenny was one of the rumours but I dont believe that to be true at all.

[Rovers Maniac]

Following rumours on Derry forum:

We are chasing Brian Shelley, Ollie Cahill, Ken Oman and Richard Clarke. 5 players to be let go. Sean Hargan already released and 4 others to follow.

I'd say Jennings, Martyn, Dennehy and McHugh will be others.

Higgsy coming back to replace Reynolds

Killian Brennan was talking to Kenny was one of the rumours but I dont believe that to be true at all.

Whats happened Martyn? I always thought when he is good he is very good and when he is bad he is non existent, but this year he has been really poor.

[charliesboots]

Justice Edwards didn`t believe the particular former Directors account, and believed the developer, which tells its own story! Rather than finding against us on simple contract grounds he strayed into murkey issues of enforcement of equitable interests in a portion of the lands. Presume what you like about the outcome in the Supreme Court but when the full HC judgement is up on the Courts Service you may hold a different view.

There's nothing murky about equitable interests in portions of land. Representations were made by O'Reilly which were relied upon by Conroy and Bohs were estopped from claiming no deal was done.

On most of the legal points regarding whether an agreement had been entered into Bohs won but on the evidence Albions witnesses were deemed more reliable.

It's extremely unlikely that oral evidence will be given in the Supreme Court and that's why (IMO) the appeal is unlikely to succeed.

[mrtndvn]

Whats happened Martyn? I always thought when he is good he is very good and when he is bad he is non existent, but this year he has been really poor.

Pat Fenlon happened Martyn. You got to feel sorry for the guy.

He was the EL's Frank Lampard, do nothing during the game then pop up with a goal. Unfortunally, he isn't getting any younger and i'm not sure if we will be able to get him back to his pre Fenlon best.

I think he could be moving on as hes on a nice wage.

That said, some of our best form this year was when we were playing a three man midfield with Martyn, Deery and Higgins in the middle, so maybe Kenny sees a future for him.

[viagogo]

Gamble has signed three year deal with City.

[Dalymountrower]

There's nothing murky about equitable interests in portions of land. Representations were made by O'Reilly which were relied upon by Conroy and Bohs were estopped from claiming no deal was done.

On most of the legal points regarding whether an agreement had been entered into Bohs won but on the evidence Albions witnesses were deemed more reliable.

It's extremely unlikely that oral evidence will be given in the Supreme Court and that's why (IMO) the appeal is unlikely to succeed.

The appeal will be on a point of law, the credibility issue has been decided and a developer has been held to be more credible than an Officer of the Court .
Whether Edwards erred in ordering specific performance on a dubious or (even murky) equitable interest will presumably be the focus.. You find any similarly decided cases Charliesboots, ?
Anyway, time will tell, obviously its better to win this in the Supreme Court rather than the High Court!

[charliesboots]

The appeal will be on a point of law, the credibility issue has been decided and a developer has been held to be more credible than an Officer of the Court .
Whether Edwards erred in ordering specific performance on a dubious or (even murky) equitable interest will presumably be the focus.. You find any similarly decided cases Charliesboots, ?
Anyway, time will tell, obviously its better to win this in the Supreme Court rather than the High Court!

I really don't get your "murky" idea. I'll grant you dubious but losers in Court cases often view the decision as such.

[GreenStar]

Are there 2 different threads mixed into one here? Read a thread supposedly about 'Transfer Rumours' and it's interspersed with a court case about Dalymount Park.

[GreenStar]

Joxer to Rovers will only happen if he's willing to go part-time and I assume take a big pay-cut. Pats were sniffing about him for quite some time during the season.

Can Rovers actually sign anyone with no manager in place? Let me clarify: not CAN they but WOULD they? Wouldn't make sense imo. A board signing players any potential new manager might not even want to work with. Don't think so.

Anyone know Joe Ndo's contract situation at Pats? What's left on it?

I would think the only people who know the identity of the next Rovers manager are the Rovers board. Anything you read on some internet forum is supposition and hearsay.

[Dodge]

Anyone know Joe Ndo's contract situation at Pats? What's left on it?

A year. I assume he's available on a free transfer

Oh and I hope Joxer isn't coming our way. Talk about attitude problems...

[Jersey Cow]

Joxer offered to Sligo...

[OneRedArmy]

Pat Fenlon happened Martyn. You got to feel sorry for the guy.

He was the EL's Frank Lampard, do nothing during the game then pop up with a goal. Unfortunally, he isn't getting any younger and i'm not sure if we will be able to get him back to his pre Fenlon best.

I think he could be moving on as hes on a nice wage.

That said, some of our best form this year was when we were playing a three man midfield with Martyn, Deery and Higgins in the middle, so maybe Kenny sees a future for him.You're watching a different Derry City to me.

Martyn did nothing this year, and nothing last year when he came back from Norway.

Fenlon is guilty of many things, but Ciaran Martyn losing interest isn't one of them.

[MariborKev]

You're watching a different Derry City to me.

Martyn did nothing this year, and nothing last year when he came back from Norway.

Fenlon is guilty of many things, but Ciaran Martyn losing interest isn't one of them.


Exactly. I love to be reminded of these times where Martyn played in a three man midfield?