Transfer Rumours

[pineapple stu]

its about spending money on player thats untested even in a league who's last 3 high profile exports haven't earned their transfer fee (McCourt, O'Donovan, Mooney)
That is true alright. People can get very uppity about how much LoI players are worth. We got E60k for Dicker and were glad of it; he's now regular enough as they push for the Division Two play offs.


Ah i think Derry are solid enough
That most certainly is not true though. Although with the sale of McGinn and McCourt, they've probably covered their losses for the year?

[BrayUnknowns]

That is true alright. People can get very uppity about how much LoI players are worth. We got E60k for Dicker and were glad of it; he's now regular enough as they push for the Division Two play offs.

Dicker is a super player and worth more than what you got for him. To say your glad you got what you got for him shows why UCD are now a 1st division side IMO. Do you think if Dicker had of been playing in the UK and a League 2 or League 1 side were looking to buy him they would have got him so cheap ?


That most certainly is not true though. Although with the sale of McGinn and McCourt, they've probably covered their losses for the year?

As i said, Derry are probably in a better position than most Irish clubs, i dint say they were clear of debt or anything of the sort.

[pineapple stu]

Dicker was rejected by Birmingham and then signed by a Division Three side, who typically don't give out big money transfers. Even then, they only toko a risk on him partly because Jim Gannon knows the LoI.

There are clubs worse off than Derry, but I don't think it's most of them.

I stand by both my comments.

Edit - also, the reason we're in Division One now is more because clubs like Bray and Cobh, who would be our nearest rivals usually (in terms of league placing) gave contracts to players they still can't honour than because of what we got for Dicker.

[Dodge]

Dicker is a super player and worth more than what you got for him. To say your glad you got what you got for him shows why UCD are now a 1st division side IMO. Do you think if Dicker had of been playing in the UK and a League 2 or League 1 side were looking to buy him they would have got him so cheap ?

But he wasn't. He was playing for a team battling relegation in the league of Ireland. I'm not knocking the lad, but Stockport are never going to spend €200,000 on a player form UCD.

The player is only worth what a club is willing to spend on him. He may be better than players who are sold for millions but if no one is willing to buy him, his transfer value is zerio

[Krstic]

Beggars can't be choosers and all that.

Niall has two years left on his contract, so we would be happy for him to stay at Derry City

Derry City chairman Pat McDaid

Stu I know you love continually commenting on Derry's financial situation, however our chairman has said, and Ihave heard this with my own ears, that if the right offer comes in we will sell McGinn, however we don't have to sell him.

[pineapple stu]

I've heard people say things before.

You don't expect him to say in the media (where I assume you got that quote from) that Derry are broke and will take the first vaguely decent offer that comes in?

[Krstic]

I've heard people say things before.

You don't expect him to say in the media (where I assume you got that quote from) that Derry are broke and will take the first vaguely decent offer that comes in?

AGM last week, £80,000 loss for previous Financial year.

[pineapple stu]

I'm aware of that. But it's irrelevant. 2008's the important one. That's when you started running into problems.

[passinginterest]

Birmingham and Celtic now being reported by Sky Sports as battling it out for his signature. http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_4631551,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_4631551,00.html)

Birmingham seem intent on giving a trial to or signing at least half the players in the league at this stage.

[Krstic]

I'm aware of that. But it's irrelevant. 2008's the important one. That's when you started running into problems.

I'm led to believe a similar loss is predicted (not including possible transfer of McGinn).

Certainly not the Doom & Gloom you regularly preach.

[pineapple stu]

I'm led to believe otherwise.

Best case, with cumulative losses of £160k over two years, and a recession on meaning people are looking for cash quickly, you're not really in a position to hold out for another few grand.

[HarpoJoyce]

Dicker was rejected by Birmingham and then signed by a Division Three side, who typically don't give out big money transfers. Even then, they only toko a risk on him partly because Jim Gannon knows the LoI.

There are clubs worse off than Derry, but I don't think it's most of them.

I stand by both my comments.

.......

Signed by a Fourth tier (League Two) side. Better quit while you're near BEP.

You have a problem. You squeal when organisations are not transparent and then you squeal when they provide information in a public forum (I don't mean this site, I mean a real venue.)

When you return start calling Divisions by there true title, it aids clarity.

[pineapple stu]

That was one of the more pointless posts in the history of the internet. :confused:

[HarpoJoyce]

Birmingham and Celtic now being reported by Sky Sports as battling it out for his signature. http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_4631551,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_4631551,00.html)

Birmingham seem intent on giving a trial to or signing at least half the players in the league at this stage.

Didn't Derry City allow Glasgow Celtic to Guzump West Bromich Albion for Paddy McCourt contract? There's no reason Derry won't follow the same successful route.

[BrayUnknowns]

Dicker was rejected by Birmingham and then signed by a Division Three side, who typically don't give out big money transfers. Even then, they only toko a risk on him partly because Jim Gannon knows the LoI..

So in other words, Jim Gannon knew what he was doing getting Dicker on the cheap.


There are clubs worse off than Derry, but I don't think it's most of them...

I would think the only clubs who would be in a better position at present are Pats and Rovers. Certianly nobody else in the Premier anyway. So in my mind that would be most clubs.

I stand by both my comments.


Edit - also, the reason we're in Division One now is more because clubs like Bray and Cobh, who would be our nearest rivals usually (in terms of league placing) gave contracts to players they still can't honour than because of what we got for Dicker.

How do you make that one out? So 2 of Bray's biggest financial backrers pull out half way through the season meant UCD finished bottom of the table? The pay cut that Bray asked the players to take was with 3 games to go, we were safe at that stage and back wages have been paid. We finish a rather big 18 points ahead of you with a slightly better goal difference, how would asking our players to take a pay cut for the final 3 games of the season have an effect on UCD getting relegated ?

[brianw82]

Can people please stop bickering in this thread?

This thread is for Transfer Rumours? Not arguing about how UCD finished bottom!

[pineapple stu]

So in other words, Jim Gannon knew what he was doing getting Dicker on the cheap.
I don't think Dicker has done E200k of work for Stockport yet, even after they've been promoted. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous.



I would think the only clubs who would be in a better position at present are Pats and Rovers.
:D

Complete nonsense, I'm afraid.



How do you make that one out?
We had backers pull out mid-season too; we still paid all wages.

UCD offer a player E300 which they know they can pay; Bray or Cobh or Harps (it's a cumulative thing; not picking on Bray) offer E500 which they can't pay. Which is the player, being stupid, going to take? Can you then see how Club A signing players over Club B is going to affect Club B? Or more to the point, how it's going to have more effect than trying to squeeze another E100k out of a Third Division team who simply aren't going to pay it?

[Rovers1]

Can people please stop bickering in this thread?

This thread is for Transfer Rumours? Not arguing about how UCD finished bottom!

seconded:(

[pineapple stu]

Meh. The internet's for lots of things. If a new rumour comes along, I'll tell you. ;)

[Rovers1]

Meh. The internet's for lots of things. If a new rumour comes along, I'll tell you. ;)

Have UCD many players re-signed for next season?, last i heard Gregg and Finn lad (i think) were signed.

[pineapple stu]

You have good sources, my Sligwegian friend!

They're the only two who were still in contract at the end of the season. We'll probably keep another three or four (possibly Mahon, King and McWalter) and work off our A Team after that. Everyone else is pretty much a free agent at present (in the same way most of the league's players are), and if they can't find a club and are happy with the reduced wages we'll have to offer in the First, we'll probably take them back. Could see us keeping another two or three players that way.

Either way, we've (hopefully!) got a nice backbone to the team and with a reserve team who've quality-wise been promoted to the First Division and a third team who've qualified for the FAI Cup, I'm expecting a top four finish next year.

[garyderry]

How do you make that one out? So 2 of Bray's biggest financial backrers pull out half way through the season meant UCD finished bottom of the table? The pay cut that Bray asked the players to take was with 3 games to go, we were safe at that stage and back wages have been paid. We finish a rather big 18 points ahead of you with a slightly better goal difference, how would asking our players to take a pay cut for the final 3 games of the season have an effect on UCD getting relegated ?

dont forget Bray actually have paying fans coming through the gates
unlike UCD. Might have helped pay players wages too.

Thios higher than mighty UCD bull**** is unbelievable.
Thankfully wont have to go near the dump for a few years (at least)

[pineapple stu]

dont forget Bray actually have paying fans coming through the gates unlike UCD. Might have helped pay players wages too.
Might have but didn't, evidently.

Gate receipts are fairly marginal compared to total income for the likes of us and Bray.

[Mr A]

UCD offer a player E300 which they know they can pay; Bray or Cobh or Harps (it's a cumulative thing; not picking on Bray) offer E500 which they can't pay. Which is the player, being stupid, going to take?

Are you suggesting that many footballers are stupid, greedy muppets?

Shame on you sir for such an outrageous slur on one of the most intellectual and hard-working sections of society.

[Lamper.sffc]

Sporting looking to sign Galway keeper Gary Rogers, Drogheda's Shaun Maher, Boh's Thomas Heary and Gary O Neil off Pats According to this

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/ambitious-sporting-lead-race-to-sign-oneill-1570499.html

[pineapple stu]

So that's half of Shels, Dundalk, Drogheda and UCD that Fingal are looking to sign?

Tick tick tick boom!

[Lamper.sffc]

with a little bit of Bohs and Pats thrown in for good measure.

Stu this a rumours thread, so could you please try to keep to that tks and not try to start up your next argument. It would be much appreciated;)

[pineapple stu]

Sorry, you're right - I'll keep facts off the thread. ;)

[Lamper.sffc]

:D, Tushay

[sligoman]

Not sure if it's been posted already but reported on i102 radio station this morning that Galway players are looking for new clubs because they're not happy with part time contracts.

[gufct]

Not sure if it's been posted already but reported on i102 radio station this morning that Galway players are looking for new clubs because they're not happy with part time contracts.

so thats 2 players leaving then as all the rest are free agents.

[oriel]

Declan 'fabio' O Brien strongly linked to making a move from drogs to us.

Not so sure about him, think his 'best' days are behind him

[holidaysong]

It'd be worth it just as an extra kick in the sack for the Drogs though..

[Black and White]

Said on Today FM that Michael O'Neill has being confirmed as Rovers boss!!

[Joe Strummer]

Said on Today FM that Michael O'Neill has being confirmed as Rovers boss!!

Its on the Official site http://www.shamrockrovers.ie/index-home.php

[Dodge]

Said on Today FM that Michael O'Neill has being confirmed as Rovers boss!!

Why the shock. it was posted here a few weeks ago

[HarpoJoyce]

Why the shock. it was posted here a few weeks ago

That a bit of a stretch, Alan Matthews and an undecided Pat Ffenlon were also linked with the vacancy 'til the confirmation now.

They were wise to go outside of the League of Ireland to fill the position. Shamrocks have a poor employer reputation at the moment.

[Sam_Heggy]

Declan 'fabio' O Brien strongly linked to making a move from drogs to us.

Not so sure about him, think his 'best' days are behind him

Fabio set to sign for Fingal along with Meagher from Drogs. Has it been confirmed about Lester signing for Fingal yet?

Kevin McQ due to hold talks with Harps next week about coming back.

Parkhouse and McCafferty both doing u-turns and re-signing for Harps.

[Rovers Maniac]

Kevin McQ due to hold talks with Harps next week about coming back.

Parkhouse and McCafferty both doing u-turns and re-signing for Harps.

They must must be willing to work for free or else Harps are intending to pay the players with Monopoly money this year.

[celticV3]

Parkhouse doing u-turn and re-signing for Harps.

Ah well, we tried:D Best of luck to the man and his career.

[Dodge]

That a bit of a stretch, Alan Matthews and an undecided Pat Ffenlon were also linked with the vacancy 'til the confirmation now.


Fenlon and matthews weren't mentioned by me ;)

[oriel]

Fabio set to sign for Fingal .

That would please me, he is not the type if player i would like to be leading our attack next season, as i said before, i think his best days are behind him.

[fergalr]

Shamrocks have a poor employer reputation at the moment.
Eh? Care to elaborate Harpie?

[Sam_Heggy]

They must must be willing to work for free or else Harps are intending to pay the players with Monopoly money this year.


No its grand we will tell our fans we are fooked, tell them we will be out of business in a few weeks, tell them to cough up a few hundred grand and we will be set then for the following season to offer silly money to players willing to play for half the amount.

[sligoman]

Parkbus doing u-turns and re-signing for Harps.Raging:(

:D

[Rovers Maniac]

No its grand we will tell our fans we are fooked, tell them we will be out of business in a few weeks, tell them to cough up a few hundred grand and we will be set then for the following season to offer silly money to players willing to play for half the amount.

Seamie Coleman ching ching, that gotta hurt? ;):D

[Sam_Heggy]

Seamie Coleman ching ching, that gotta hurt? ;):D

Not really, it happens all the time in football.

[Rovers Maniac]

Not really, it happens all the time in football.

I suppose we took Declan Boyle as well away from you and made and tidy few bob selling him to Celtic. :)

[sligoman]

I suppose we took Declan Boyle as well away from you and made and tidy few bob selling him to Celtic. :)In fairness, we did return him...when he became terrible:D

[Rovers1]

No its grand we will tell our fans we are fooked, tell them we will be out of business in a few weeks, tell them to cough up a few hundred grand and we will be set then for the following season to offer silly money to players willing to play for half the amount.

No your wrong Drogs still have to raise another 100k:o