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El-Pietro
17/11/2017, 10:31 AM
Hope McEleney stays at Dundalk. Hes rubbish. Scores loads of goals against terrible teams and disappears when it matters. If he leaves then I'd worry they might play 11 men against us.

Enter comment about Gannon using Rovers to get a better deal out of Dundalk here.

dundalkfc10
17/11/2017, 1:10 PM
Hope McEleney stays at Dundalk. Hes rubbish. Scores loads of goals against terrible teams and disappears when it matters. If he leaves then I'd worry they might play 11 men against us.

Enter comment about Gannon using Rovers to get a better deal out of Dundalk here.

BATE/WARSAW/ZENIT/ROSENBORG, McEleney was our standout player V them all!

But yeh he's rubbish :confused:

sbgawa
17/11/2017, 1:23 PM
well I reckon he's a super player I hope he leaves as there aren't to many like him around, even with the euro millions Dundalk will struggle to replace him.
Maybe he didn't play well against Cork but you could say that about a lot of the Dundalk players against Cork last year, he did a lot elsewhere

micls
17/11/2017, 1:50 PM
well I reckon he's a super player I hope he leaves as there aren't to many like him around, even with the euro millions Dundalk will struggle to replace him.
Maybe he didn't play well against Cork but you could say that about a lot of the Dundalk players against Cork last year, he did a lot elsewhere

Not just last year though. McEleney has never performed against us. Dundalk look like they're playing with a man down everytime. Maybe it's just us and he steps up against other good teams though, I don't see enough dundalk games to say. Not overly bothered if he resigns with them, he'll obviously win them some points, but a decent replacement would perform against us so same same really. Gannon is a good resigning. 3 year deal is a big statement.

dundalkfc10
17/11/2017, 2:01 PM
Not just last year though. McEleney has never performed against us. Dundalk look like they're playing with a man down everytime. Maybe it's just us and he steps up against other good teams though, I don't see enough dundalk games to say. Not overly bothered if he resigns with them, he'll obviously win them some points, but a decent replacement would perform against us so same same really. Gannon is a good resigning. 3 year deal is a big statement.

You called him RUBBISH now your saying you don't watch Dundalk much.

Just stop making a fool of yourself

El-Pietro
17/11/2017, 2:45 PM
You called him RUBBISH now your saying you don't watch Dundalk much.

Just stop making a fool of yourself
No. I called him Rubbish. micls is a whole different person. Just stop making a fool of yourself.

ccfcman
17/11/2017, 2:45 PM
BATE/WARSAW/ZENIT/ROSENBORG, McEleney was our standout player V them all!

But yeh he's rubbish :confused:

Exactly, goes missing against big teams like Cork City :)


You called him RUBBISH now your saying you don't watch Dundalk much.

Just stop making a fool of yourself

Actually, he didn't.

Asterix
17/11/2017, 2:56 PM
never been impressed by him anytime ive seen him. just seems to pop up with a good goal for everyone to talk about every now and again.

Olé Olé
17/11/2017, 2:56 PM
Paddy McEleney deciding between Derry, Dundalk and Blackburn.
I wouldn't have thought we'd have the cash to offer enough to him myself.

http://www.derryjournal.com/sport/football/derry-city-join-blackburn-and-dundalk-in-patrick-mceleney-chase-1-8249637

There was a rumour a couple of weeks back in one of the rags suggesting McEneff to Dundalk. I wonder if they're considering that getting McEneff out and McEleney in is a good bet? If McEleney signs for another season it's not very likely he'll ever depart for England. McEneff is only 22 and could be gone in a season or two. That's a gamble in terms of contract length and hopes of future renewal though.

Charlie Darwin
17/11/2017, 3:02 PM
No. I called him Rubbish. micls is a whole different person. Just stop making a fool of yourself.
Raises the question of whether dundalkfc10 has been watching McEleney all this time or just anyone in a Dundalk shirt.

White Horse
17/11/2017, 3:05 PM
I'm not sure what to make of calling McEleney rubbish, a wind up perhaps?

He goes missing at times and struggles against tight marking. If given space, he is deadly. I hope he stays, it's a pleasure watching a player with that level of ability.

Pablo Escobar
17/11/2017, 3:11 PM
I'm not sure what to make of calling McEleney rubbish, a wind up perhaps?

He goes missing at times and struggles against tight marking. If given space, he is deadly. I hope he stays, it's a pleasure watching a player with that level of ability.

I can see he has quality, but I don't think it's a wind-up, as he hasn't done it against us. I've seen the goals against Galway, Drogheda and Pat's.....there's a trend here.....and some other highlights, but never in the flesh. A cynic would say that he can be the best player in the world with nobody else on the pitch. He sort of reminds me of George O'Callaghan in some respects. Often touted as the best player in the league, and on his day he probably was. However, "his day" came around all too infrequently IMO, but he never failed to be on the tip of every pundits tongue.

dundalkfc10
17/11/2017, 3:25 PM
I can see he has quality, but I don't think it's a wind-up, as he hasn't done it against us. I've seen the goals against Galway, Drogheda and Pat's.....there's a trend here.....and some other highlights, but never in the flesh. A cynic would say that he can be the best player in the world with nobody else on the pitch. He sort of reminds me of George O'Callaghan in some respects. Often touted as the best player in the league, and on his day he probably was. However, "his day" came around all too infrequently IMO, but he never failed to be on the tip of every pundits tongue.

He was one of our best players in the European Run last year and against Rosenborg this year.

To say he never does it against big/good teams is just laughable!

ArFella
17/11/2017, 3:26 PM
I love McEleney, I think he is the best player in the LoI on his day because he can do things with the ball that no one else in the league can, bar Paddy McCourt, but to say he has never turned up against Cork is simply stating fact... I think I mentioned on here before the cup final that I'd love SK to not start him and bring him on after about 60 minutes to see if he can take advantage of tired legs, because he is played out of the game by Cork every single time, they know exactly what they are doing against him and just completely nullify him by not giving him a second on the ball (much like the way Ireland dealt with Eriksen in the 1st leg).
To say he is rubbish is either ignorant or fan-blindness as anyone who watched him in the European games or against other LoI teams can see the obvious talent that's there, I wouldn't trade him for anyone (within reason) as he tends to be the key that unlocks the door when we have to play teams that play 10 men behind the ball, a real mercurial (don't know what that means but pundits use it quite a lot) talent.

dundalkfc10
17/11/2017, 3:26 PM
No. I called him Rubbish. micls is a whole different person. Just stop making a fool of yourself.

Apologies, but you thinking he is rubbish does not surprise me... You prob are one who does not rate Stephen o Donnell either

El-Pietro
17/11/2017, 3:30 PM
100% not a windup. He never ever turns up against Cork City. His performances are a common discussion among our fans. We see the highlights and the flashy goals he gets against poor teams, we hear from the media and from Dundalk etc how great he is, we see that he gets nominated for all sorts of awards so we wonder if hes going to show up and finally perform against us, and consistently he is anonymous. Not just this season either. He has never had a good game against Cork City.
If it was just this season you could say well McCormack has his number, but he didn't do anything last year either when we had Bolger back there.
Over the past 4 seasons there has always been one player who has stood out for Dundalk. Starting with Hoban, onto Towell and then Horgan. Now its McEleney. Each of those players punished us, and were often the difference between the two sides.
We had nightmares about Richie Towell. Two goals at the Cross in 2015 stand out. Cup final in 2015 he actually had a very McEleney-esque game but he still popped up with the winner. Daryl Horgan tore us to shreds in Oriel Park in 2016 to effectively decide the league.
McEleney though? Meh. I'm sure he can play a bit, but what good is it if he goes hiding when it matters. Maybe the likes of Zenit didn't respect him and gave him space to perform, but that's never going to happen against Cork City (unless we completely change the way we play, or have a man or two sent off), and if he can't operate when its a little bit difficult then Dundalk will always be playing a man down against us.
So I'd be very happy for him to stay at Dundalk, for the media to continue fawning over him for scoring against Limerick or Pats or someone, and then for him to continue his disappearing act against us. If he does move on, perhaps Kenny will find a new key player who actually punishes us once in a while.

El-Pietro
17/11/2017, 3:32 PM
Apologies, but you thinking he is rubbish does not surprise me... You prob are one who does not rate Stephen o Donnell either
I don't like Stevie, and he was poor when he was in Cork, but I can see his quality. I think the legs aren't there anymore, but he has real talent. I'm a big fan of Chris Shields as it happens. I've mentioned that here several times.
Edit: I say I don't like him, thats more for how hes played against us, and some of his on the pitch antics, diving/pressuring refs etc. I think hes good craic in person.

oriel
17/11/2017, 3:56 PM
100% not a windup. He never ever turns up against Cork City. His performances are a common discussion among our fans. We see the highlights and the flashy goals he gets against poor teams, we hear from the media and from Dundalk etc how great he is, we see that he gets nominated for all sorts of awards so we wonder if hes going to show up and finally perform against us, and consistently he is anonymous. Not just this season either. He has never had a good game against Cork City.
If it was just this season you could say well McCormack has his number, but he didn't do anything last year either when we had Bolger back there.
Over the past 4 seasons there has always been one player who has stood out for Dundalk. Starting with Hoban, onto Towell and then Horgan. Now its McEleney. Each of those players punished us, and were often the difference between the two sides.
We had nightmares about Richie Towell. Two goals at the Cross in 2015 stand out. Cup final in 2015 he actually had a very McEleney-esque game but he still popped up with the winner. Daryl Horgan tore us to shreds in Oriel Park in 2016 to effectively decide the league.
McEleney though? Meh. I'm sure he can play a bit, but what good is it if he goes hiding when it matters. Maybe the likes of Zenit didn't respect him and gave him space to perform, but that's never going to happen against Cork City (unless we completely change the way we play, or have a man or two sent off), and if he can't operate when its a little bit difficult then Dundalk will always be playing a man down against us.
So I'd be very happy for him to stay at Dundalk, for the media to continue fawning over him for scoring against Limerick or Pats or someone, and then for him to continue his disappearing act against us. If he does move on, perhaps Kenny will find a new key player who actually punishes us once in a while.


I think to be fair some decent points made here, I made this point previously about how one player can have an enormous effect on a league winning season for that team, and I mentioned it as Quigley (Sligo 2012) Fagan (Pats 2013) Hoban (Dlk 2014) Towell (Dlk 2015) Horgan (Dlk 2016) and this season is has been Maguire (Cork 2017)

I was at that game in TC in April 2015 when Dlk beat Cork 2-1 and Towell ran the show from start to finish. McEleney has been very good for Dundalk in Europe in general but also quite poor against Cork in most games, a lot of Dlk fans would agree he has also played much better against the lesser sides. If he stays this is a part of his game he really needs to work in, being consistent in all league games.

brendy_éire
17/11/2017, 4:10 PM
There was a rumour a couple of weeks back in one of the rags suggesting McEneff to Dundalk. I wonder if they're considering that getting McEneff out and McEleney in is a good bet?

McEneff is under contract at Derry until the end of next season. Would Dundalk pay money for him?

As for Paddy McEleney, he's great. Certainly one of league's top players.
I take the point that he hasn't performed well against Cork for whatever reason though. Strange one.

Ezeikial
17/11/2017, 4:34 PM
McEneff is under contract at Derry until the end of next season. Would Dundalk pay money for him?



Without a doubt. The question is more about whether agreement could be found between the clubs on the amount

Philosophizer
17/11/2017, 4:45 PM
McEneff is under contract at Derry until the end of next season. Would Dundalk pay money for him?

As for Paddy McEleney, he's great. Certainly one of league's top players.
I take the point that he hasn't performed well against Cork for whatever reason though. Strange one.

It's coz Cork just harry the **** outta him in every match. There's a reason why he tends to stand out against the european sides. He's probably more suited to those style of games than the hurly burly. In the home match vs Rosenborg this yr i thought he was the best player on the pitch. And last year against Bate (home) Zenit (both), Maccabi (home) I thought he was excellent.

mrtndvn
17/11/2017, 5:20 PM
100% not a windup. He never ever turns up against Cork City. His performances are a common discussion among our fans. We see the highlights and the flashy goals he gets against poor teams, we hear from the media and from Dundalk etc how great he is, we see that he gets nominated for all sorts of awards so we wonder if hes going to show up and finally perform against us, and consistently he is anonymous. Not just this season either. He has never had a good game against Cork City.
If it was just this season you could say well McCormack has his number, but he didn't do anything last year either when we had Bolger back there.
Over the past 4 seasons there has always been one player who has stood out for Dundalk. Starting with Hoban, onto Towell and then Horgan. Now its McEleney. Each of those players punished us, and were often the difference between the two sides.
We had nightmares about Richie Towell. Two goals at the Cross in 2015 stand out. Cup final in 2015 he actually had a very McEleney-esque game but he still popped up with the winner. Daryl Horgan tore us to shreds in Oriel Park in 2016 to effectively decide the league.
McEleney though? Meh. I'm sure he can play a bit, but what good is it if he goes hiding when it matters. Maybe the likes of Zenit didn't respect him and gave him space to perform, but that's never going to happen against Cork City (unless we completely change the way we play, or have a man or two sent off), and if he can't operate when its a little bit difficult then Dundalk will always be playing a man down against us.
So I'd be very happy for him to stay at Dundalk, for the media to continue fawning over him for scoring against Limerick or Pats or someone, and then for him to continue his disappearing act against us. If he does move on, perhaps Kenny will find a new key player who actually punishes us once in a while.

Didn't he win a penalty v cork in the cup final?

sbgawa
17/11/2017, 6:26 PM
I'd love it if rovers signed paddy McCourt I know he isn't fit enough I know he won't run till the cows come home but having him come on with 30 mins to go and stroll around killing people from the middle of the pitch would be awesome.

Dalymountrower
17/11/2017, 7:05 PM
I'd love it if rovers signed paddy McCourt I know he isn't fit enough I know he won't run till the cows come home but having him come on with 30 mins to go and stroll around killing people from the middle of the pitch would be awesome.
Nutmegged by a 19 yr old in our last game of season v Harps.

nigel-harps1954
17/11/2017, 7:25 PM
Nutmegged by a 19 yr old in our last game of season v Harps.

If that could only be countered by how many people he nutmegged throughout the season to balance that out.

sbgawa
17/11/2017, 7:45 PM
Nutmegged by a 19 yr old in our last game of season v Harps.

Wow that has completely changed my opinion of him.

jinxy lilywhite
17/11/2017, 8:35 PM
McEneff is under contract at Derry until the end of next season. Would Dundalk pay money for him?

As for Paddy McEleney, he's great. Certainly one of league's top players.
I take the point that he hasn't performed well against Cork for whatever reason though. Strange one.

If Dundalk or cork can pay 30k for average one trick ponies like connolly and sadlier, McEneff imo is worth double

Dalymountrower
17/11/2017, 8:39 PM
If that could only be countered by how many people he nutmegged throughout the season to balance that out.k
Clearly didn't balance out for Harps.

nigel-harps1954
17/11/2017, 9:36 PM
k
Clearly didn't balance out for Harps.

It worked out perfectly well for those of us who had the joy of watching him throughout the season.

Dalymountrower
17/11/2017, 10:54 PM
It worked out perfectly well for those of us who had the joy of watching him throughout the season.
Glittering success so, hopefully he does sign for Rovers then.

micls
18/11/2017, 3:58 AM
If Dundalk or cork can pay 30k for average one trick ponies like connolly and sadlier, McEneff imo is worth double

Sadlier a one trick pony??! Not in the slightest. Can't wait to see him next season after a proper off season of strength and conditioning behind him. He is quality.

Olé Olé
18/11/2017, 12:30 PM
Sadlier a one trick pony??! Not in the slightest. Can't wait to see him next season after a proper off season of strength and conditioning behind him. He is quality.

Agreed. Has some similar traits to Connolly as far as wing players go but he has exponentially better decision making and subtlety in play.

disgruntled
18/11/2017, 12:39 PM
If Dundalk or cork can pay 30k for average one trick ponies like connolly and sadlier, McEneff imo is worth double

Connolly isn't even a one trick pony 😁
There's a lot more to come from Sadlier.

Charlie Darwin
18/11/2017, 6:49 PM
It worked out perfectly well for those of us who had the joy of watching him throughout the season.
Give it up Nigel. Now that McCourt's legendary defensive skills have deserted him and he's getting nutmegged by 19 year olds, he's finished.

outspoken
19/11/2017, 10:44 AM
Sadlier > Connolly

micls
19/11/2017, 12:46 PM
Sadlier > Connolly

I haven't seen enough of Connolly to really judge, but in what I have seen he's lacking in the footballing intelligence side of things. I genuinely think Sadlier will be the best 'flair' player in the league next year. He just needs to toughen up a bit first.

Dalymountrower
20/11/2017, 7:55 AM
Give it up Nigel. Now that McCourt's legendary defensive skills have deserted him and he's getting nutmegged by 19 year olds, he's finished.

Get a room, you two clubs.

Charlie Darwin
20/11/2017, 8:51 AM
Get a room, you two clubs.
Got any for sale?

outspoken
20/11/2017, 9:54 AM
Derry news reporting that Derry have offered McEleney a 4 year contract! Can’t wait to see people arriving to Games in limos and choppers next season while drinking Preseco and smoking cigars that they light with 20 Euro notes, the boom is back baby!

Philosophizer
20/11/2017, 11:22 AM
Derry news reporting that Derry have offered McEleney a 4 year contract! Can’t wait to see people arriving to Games in limos and choppers next season while drinking Preseco and smoking cigars that they light with 20 Euro notes, the boom is back baby!

As long as they're offering sensible money and not mental wages i don't see anything wrong with clubs here offering longer contracts. Derry have been getting european money for a couple of years now so they should be able to afford a few multi-year contracts as long as the wages are not outrageous.

Maybe this is a sign that our league (or the top teams at least) are finally stabilizing financially. Dundalk have given Gannon a 3 year contract too

Charlie Darwin
20/11/2017, 11:29 AM
Clubs in the north have been offering three and four year deals for ages on lower money than is offered here. It generally seems to suit players and clubs here not to have long contracts.

Dalymountrower
20/11/2017, 11:59 AM
Got any for sale?
We had a few pre fabs available but person or persons unknown set fire to them last weekend.

ToberonaTornado
20/11/2017, 12:25 PM
Pete Mahon leaves Drogheda United.

https://twitter.com/LMFMRADIO/status/932551117438902272

Ezeikial
20/11/2017, 12:32 PM
Pete Mahon leaves Drogheda United.

https://twitter.com/LMFMRADIO/status/932551117438902272

I expected that to happen at least 3 weeks ago at the end of the season.

It seems strange that it is happening now

total hoofball
21/11/2017, 6:00 AM
I expected that to happen at least 3 weeks ago at the end of the season.

It seems strange that it is happening now
If I'm taking a guess Drogheda finalising their 2018 budget may be it. Mahon won't work without a budget and some Drogheda players winding up at First Division competitors like Longford would suggest this to be the reason

Yossarian
21/11/2017, 7:26 AM
Any Derry opinions on Dean Jarvis? Rumour here that he is close to signing for Dundalk. Ronan Murray supposed to be more or less signed also.

They'll probably end up at Cork.

brendy_éire
21/11/2017, 8:02 AM
Any Derry opinions on Dean Jarvis? Rumour here that he is close to signing for Dundalk. Ronan Murray supposed to be more or less signed also.

They'll probably end up at Cork.

He's good if he has other good ones around him. Sometimes prone to the odd mistake. Likes to get forward a lot too.
I wouldn't have him ahead of Massey now though.

Philosophizer
21/11/2017, 11:44 AM
Bunch of transfer talk in the Irish sun today, mainly involving Shamrock Rovers...

Rovers chasing Aston Villa defender Kevin Toner.

Rovers have already landed keeper Cian Clarke from Bohs. (He's only 16 so i'm sure he'll just be with the underage sides for now at least.)

Rovers also apparently competing with St Johnstone for David McMillan.

Bradley also after Jordi Balk, who's being courted by Waterford and Cork too.

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/1828451/shamrock-rovers-lining-up-ambitious-swoop-for-aston-villa-defender-kevin-toner/

desaintsno.12
21/11/2017, 2:34 PM
if true, its very odd these clubs chasing Balk. As a defender he is bang average. He cashed in on the fact that the midfield in front of him steadied when Brennan came in.
He can occasionally....occasionally...give you a long diagonal ball which looks great when it comes off, and he badge kisses with the best of them, but in terms of defending, he is fairly meh.

Dalymountrower
21/11/2017, 3:00 PM
if true, its very odd these clubs chasing Balk. As a defender he is bang average. He cashed in on the fact that the midfield in front of him steadied when Brennan came in.
He can occasionally....occasionally...give you a long diagonal ball which looks great when it comes off, and he badge kisses with the best of them, but in terms of defending, he is fairly meh.

Other Saints I was talking to were raving about him.....oh right I see what you`re doing there.

Waterford being linked with everyone available, are they the new Limerick, Bray or Fingal?