Transfer Rumours 201X Season

[placid casual]

Breaking up is such a hard thing to do.
Its not you, its me. :):):)

[**FrOsTy**]

On top of signing Mark O Sullivan from Cork, Waterford are linked with a move for Cobh's Shane O Connor. Also, been talked about on the Cork forums that Colin Healy has been offered a player coach role in Waterford also.

[sulywaterfordfc]

I'm sure Rovers offering 52 week contracts has something to do with it. At the end of people are going to choose pay for 52 weeks outta 52 as opposed to 40.

[sulywaterfordfc]

Kenny Browne is linked with a move back to the Blues also

[Longfordian]

I'm sure Rovers offering 52 week contracts has something to do with it. At the end of people are going to choose pay for 52 weeks outta 52 as opposed to 40.

Depends on the pay surely?

[jinxy lilywhite]

I'm sure Rovers offering 52 week contracts has something to do with it. At the end of people are going to choose pay for 52 weeks outta 52 as opposed to 40.

And dundalk aren't offering 52 week + contracts? Catch a grip.

[Charlie Darwin]

And dundalk aren't offering 52 week + contracts? Catch a grip.
If Dundalk are paying people for more than 52 weeks of the year then fair play.

[sulywaterfordfc]

And dundalk aren't offering 52 week + contracts? Catch a grip.

If Dundalk are paying lads more then 52 weeks a year. Then I can turn water into a nice cold pint....

[jinxy lilywhite]

If Dundalk are paying people for more than 52 weeks of the year then fair play.

Lol the + meant a greater than 1 year deal.

I wish finn all the best. He will be a huge loss. I think Benson is more than able to fill his boots though.

[mcgonigle]

If Dundalk are paying lads more then 52 weeks a year. Then I can turn water into a nice cold pint....

Mines a Heineken, sure Derry were paying 104 weeks a year

[RathfarnhamHoop]

others like Finn look at other clubs where they can get more money for less commitment.
I wonder were you saying this when Finn signed for you? Its quite funny actually a few days ago finn was great and Dundalk were going to build around him next year and push on but now hes signed for Rovers hes not great and is a money grabber. If you look at it though through a players eyes it makes sense. Lets say for arguments sake Rovers and Dundalk both offered what he was on last season.
Dundalk are in the champions league but Rovers are in the Europa so not too much of a difference there but slight advantage Dundalk.
Dundalk are champions advantage to them.
Rovers are mostly full time as are Dundalk I think so equal there.
Rovers are currently building a new training ground and having an new stand built for them, Dundalk meanwhile are just talking about redeveloping oriel and god knows where they train, mix of DKIT and Oriel? Advantage Rovers there.
Rovers so fare have made some fairly decent signings, Dundalk have just lost players, advantage Rovers.
Then you've the obvious, he lives in Dublin so he'll save on petrol so if you assume same wage offered at both clubs then he'll end up with more in his pocket at Rovers after expenses so advantage Rovers there.
Rovers have sorted him a job that doesn't affect his training presumably in Dublin so hes effectively got two jobs in one there, definitely advantage rovers there although Dundalk could have done the same.
Then you've the fact a 3 year deal in this league is great security be stupid not to go for it.
Overall you can definitely see why hes chosen rovers for reasons other than 'Rovers offering silly money again'.

[placid casual]

just financially speaking
1 Ronan finn > 1 brennan & 1 north

[bluewhitearmy]

Kenny Browne is linked with a move back to the Blues also

Now this is one where mad money would have to be paid.

[Louth4sam]

I wonder were you saying this when Finn signed for you? Its quite funny actually a few days ago finn was great and Dundalk were going to build around him next year and push on but now hes signed for Rovers hes not great and is a money grabber. If you look at it though through a players eyes it makes sense. Lets say for arguments sake Rovers and Dundalk both offered what he was on last season.
Dundalk are in the champions league but Rovers are in the Europa so not too much of a difference there but slight advantage Dundalk.
Dundalk are champions advantage to them.
Rovers are mostly full time as are Dundalk I think so equal there.
Rovers are currently building a new training ground and having an new stand built for them, Dundalk meanwhile are just talking about redeveloping oriel and god knows where they train, mix of DKIT and Oriel? Advantage Rovers there.
Rovers so fare have made some fairly decent signings, Dundalk have just lost players, advantage Rovers.
Then you've the obvious, he lives in Dublin so he'll save on petrol so if you assume same wage offered at both clubs then he'll end up with more in his pocket at Rovers after expenses so advantage Rovers there.
Rovers have sorted him a job that doesn't affect his training presumably in Dublin so hes effectively got two jobs in one there, definitely advantage rovers there although Dundalk could have done the same.
Then you've the fact a 3 year deal in this league is great security be stupid not to go for it.
Overall you can definitely see why hes chosen rovers for reasons other than 'Rovers offering silly money again'.

3 year contract on better wages with a part time job and a car blew Dundalk's offer out of the water. You really don't have to break it down to who has the softest bog rolls in the jacks.

[Charlie Darwin]

I was at the press conference and Finn confirmed that Dundalk met Rovers' €4 million a year wage offer but what swung it was mypost guaranteeing he could have one free go in his spaceship.

[irish scout]

Hi everyone, I am a big LOI fan and am keen to join this forum. I am not that worried about Dundalk. They have huge financial capabilities now (compared to their domestic competitors even after they plan to improve Oriel etc.) . The UK transfer window is opening soon and that will open up a whole array of potential transfers. Sure they have lost some players to their domestic rivals, but who says they have to sign players from the League of Ireland? maybe cast the net wider- niclas vemmelund was an unknown to most in Ireland before he signed for Derry last year, and made it into the team of the year. Plenty of players for Dundalk to choose from, and they have the time before the league restarts to consider the possibilities. Plus the January transfer window allows UK clubs to loan players, so why not sign a few good quality youngsters from good UK clubs now they have a larger profile? Plus plenty of out of contract players they can choose from...Joey O Brien perhaps and plenty of others out of contract to choose from.

[Azrob Spooh]

Welcome on board Stephen

[colonelwest]

Finn is a loss to us but wish him all the best, was great for us in his 2 year spell. Players have to look after number 1 and if he's getting a better offer elsewhere fair enough. Benson can step into his role in the first 11 next season as a starter week in week out and at 24 compared to Finn being 29 (not that he's past it!) Benson's only going to get better this season and over the next few years.

We've lost a few players but we'll still be up there and competing for the league with a few astute signings to replace those who've gone and give Europe another crack in the summer on. The important thing for us as a club is to ensure there's a lasting legacy to the few bob we've raked in and that's 100% in getting Oriel up to scratch or a new stadium in the next few years along with putting the club on a solid footing for the medium-long term. Of course we'll be paying good wages but not much above the going rate for whatever standard the player is and if a player can get better elsewhere good luck to them. The lads running the club & SK have proven since day one since they took over they have their heads screwed on right and won't be held to ransomor carry any passengers who don't buy in to the way we're doing things, plus the players and staff were compensated with a nice bonus wedge each for the European exploits and will be again next season if we manage it again of course.

Be interesting to see how this plan from Rovers goes though, after Wilson threw in his few bob with the €1.5m loan earlier this year; that was €1m for the youth setup/ new training ground and 500k for the "day to day running of the club" as far as I'm aware; which of course in the grand old LOI tradition; seems to have turned into lets spunk that on wages, assorted bonuses, nixers, coke and hookers. It looks like they're taking a gamble on doing a Dundalk and making the group stages to rake in a couple of million after seeing what Dundalk did last season gone. Rovers fans should be hoping that whoevers doing the books for the club is fully taking into account the double jobbing for PAYE and PRSI purposes on their Revenue returns next year! Bray too, with them seemingly banking on getting the Carlisle turned into apartments, as we all thought was going to happen when McGettigan's were screwed out of their takeover last year for the other shysters.
:D

[Charlie Darwin]

Great to see fans of other clubs so concerned about Rovers' financial outlook again. It's been a dull couple of years on that front.

[sbgawa]

Yes the concern is touching.
As Stephen Bradley said yesterday we have 10 under 19's in our Squad and he has the same budget as the last 4 managers he is just managing it differently.
But the old they must be betting the ranch is an easier story/excuse for others.

[nigel-harps1954]

Ruaidhiri Higgins and Jonny Bonner linked to Finn Harps.

[GCdfc]

If Dundalk are paying people for more than 52 weeks of the year then fair play.

No, paying them for 52 weeks plus giving them a contract. Just one contract mind.

[RathfarnhamHoop]

3 year contract on better wages with a part time job and a car blew Dundalk's offer out of the water. You really don't have to break it down to who has the softest bog rolls in the jacks.
I just listed many reasons as to why Rovers could have offered the same wages as Dundalk and he would choose Rovers. Unless you know something about the offer we dont you cant just assume Rovers offered more. And where did you get the car thing from?

[sbgawa]

I just listed many reasons as to why Rovers could have offered the same wages as Dundalk and he would choose Rovers. Unless you know something about the offer we dont you cant just assume Rovers offered more. And where did you get the car thing from?

According to Stephen Bradley in several newspapers Finn was offered more by Dundalk in fact he said that Dundalks offer "blew us out of the water" , I've no reason to disbelieve him as he has put it on the record.
Anyway , life's moved on.
Looking forward to the start of next season.

[Yossarian]

According to Stephen Bradley in several newspapers Finn was offered more by Dundalk in fact he said that Dundalks offer "blew us out of the water" , I've no reason to disbelieve him as he has put it on the record.
Anyway , life's moved on.
Looking forward to the start of next season.

Sure what else is he going to say, he's hardly going to say they offered him a lot more than Dundalk.
According to Finn himself "it's a great contract". Not hard to read between the lines there.
http://www.the42.ie/ronan-finn-shamrock-rovers-return-3151115-Dec2016/

I'm disappointed he's gone but I don't blame him for leaving to get a 3 year contract on more money, I'd do the same myself.
Looking forward to the first game now aswell!

[sundance kid]

Fair play to Sean Gannon, fake a bit of interest from the Hoops, and then its double your money time and a brand new car. He obviously picked up a few tricks from Ronan the millionaire Finn.

[colonelwest]

Fair play to Sean Gannon, fake a bit of interest from the Hoops, and then its double your money time and a brand new car. He obviously picked up a few tricks from Ronan the millionaire Finn.


Mickey letting him be in charge of the half time choons in Oriel sealed the deal.

[PartySaint]

Paddy McCourt now a free agent after leaving Glenavon

[White Horse]

According to Stephen Bradley in several newspapers Finn was offered more by Dundalk in fact he said that Dundalks offer "blew us out of the water" , I've no reason to disbelieve him as he has put it on the record.

Other than comment sense, of course.

[El-Pietro]

Other than comment sense, of course.
Comment Sense, perfect. Allowing you to disagree with anything so long as it gives you a reason to comment?

For what its worth, I have no idea if hes being paid more, less, the same or whatever, but his leaving weakens Dundalk so thats awesome.

[sbgawa]

Common sense would tell me he is hardly going to say I signed for a bad contract it would also tell me that he is from Dublin and rovers are on the way up. (How far remains to be seen).
I don't know why you guys are so bitter about him leaving and can only see buckets of money as the reason ...he's made you enough money to replace him ten times over.
Horgan and boyle leave as hero's finn is a mercenary who only left for the money ????
Stand back and think about it lads.

[sbgawa]

Common sense would tell me he is hardly going to say I signed for a bad contract it would also tell me that he is from Dublin and rovers are on the way up. (How far remains to be seen).
I don't know why you guys are so bitter about him leaving and can only see buckets of money as the reason ...he's made you enough money to replace him ten times over.
Horgan and boyle leave as hero's finn is a mercenary who only left for the money ????
Stand back and think about it lads.

[El-Pietro]

Finn owes Dundalk nothing (like every player at every club), though the 40k bonus might have made him think twice about leaving. Dundalk should have realised he was always a risk to leave, hes 29 and hes played for UCD, Sporting Fingal, Shamrock Rovers and Dundalk. He was always likely to move on again sooner or later.

[Dillonman]

Finn owes Dundalk nothing (like every player at every club), though the 40k bonus might have made him think twice about leaving. Dundalk should have realised he was always a risk to leave, hes 29 and hes played for UCD, Sporting Fingal, Shamrock Rovers and Dundalk. He was always likely to move on again sooner or later.

What player hasn't played for UCD.......

[White Horse]

I don't know why you guys are so bitter about him leaving and can only see buckets of money as the reason ...he's made you enough money to replace him ten times over.
Horgan and boyle leave as hero's finn is a mercenary who only left for the money ????
Stand back and think about it lads.

I'm not bitter about Finn. He was a free agent and entitled to negotiate with another club

I am disappointed that he has sold himself short by leaving Dundalk and joining Shamrock Rovers. He was part of something special and was playing the best football of his career.

[El-Pietro]

Has he really though? Maybe he thinks hes leaving Dundalk at their peak and that it will be impossible to replace Horgan and Boyle?

[White Horse]

Has he really though? Maybe he thinks hes leaving Dundalk at their peak and that it will be impossible to replace Horgan and Boyle?

Cork thought the title was in the bag when Towell left. This is the third pre-season in a row where Dundalk are supposed to have been fatally weakened.

[sbgawa]

They aren't fatally weakens by any means they have two guys that can step in and the money to sign a couple of decent foreign players...if anything they will be stronger.
With so many new players coming into rovers I would have liked an easier start to get a few compeititive games together. ..Cork dundalk and derry are 3 of our first 5 matches. They had better get a few decent friendlies against good sides under their belts in jan/feb

[oriel]

I think a fair point by El P, Dundalk should have realised Finn was at risk and moved much quicker to secure his services for 2017, but players move all the time, it was disappointing but it's just the way it goes with contracts in this league.

I would expect Dundalk to be busy in the market from 1st Jan, there should be plenty of quality options out there, but they won't be cheap as they will likely to be returning Irish players from UK or other players out of contract. They have the money to get replacements in, plenty of time also.

[Bawnville Hoop]

I think a fair point by El P, Dundalk should have realised Finn was at risk and moved much quicker to secure his services for 2017, but players move all the time, it was disappointing but it's just the way it goes with contracts in this league.

I would expect Dundalk to be busy in the market from 1st Jan, there should be plenty of quality options out there, but they won't be cheap as they will likely to be returning Irish players from UK or other players out of contract. They have the money to get replacements in, plenty of time also.

Yeah Kenny managed it fine the last time he faced this sort of situation.

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[Yossarian]

I would expect Dundalk to be busy in the market from 1st Jan, there should be plenty of quality options out there, but they won't be cheap as they will likely to be returning Irish players from UK or other players out of contract. They have the money to get replacements in, plenty of time also.

There's not going to be too many players from the UK out of contract in January unless their clubs release them early. No players contest would end in January. There may be one or two but realistically any player coming in from the UK may incur a fee.

[**FrOsTy**]

Barry Murphy, Matt Connor, Robin Dempsey, Gary Delaney, Dave Mul, Shane O Connor, Dean O Halloran, Anthony McAlavey, Kenny McEvoy, Paul Murphy, Dean Walsh, Tom Whitty, Killian Brennan, Colin Healy and Mark O Sullivan.

Some of the names rumoured to be signing for Waterford. Whether they do or not is another thing haha

[patrickccfc]

Kenny Browne is linked with a move back to the Blues also

Browne under contract for the coming season


https://mobile.twitter.com/corkcityfcnews/status/812319474636492800?p=p

[Ezeikial]

Browne under contract for the coming season


https://mobile.twitter.com/corkcityfcnews/status/812319474636492800?p=p

Hopefully Cork will keep the Browne - Bennett partnership throughout the season

[Charlie Darwin]

There's not going to be too many players from the UK out of contract in January unless their clubs release them early. No players contest would end in January. There may be one or two but realistically any player coming in from the UK may incur a fee.
Usually around now clubs in England are looking to find new clubs for some of the players they don't need or want. I know Rovers have spoken to a couple who can leave if they want, and I'd imagine Dundalk are looking at similar players. Trouble is, all nonsense about who offered Finn more aside, they're often on wages both clubs would laugh at.

[oldyouth]

Spot Murphy & Gary Delaney confirmed for the Blaas. If Robin Dempsey signs & plays regularly, the title race is back up for grabs

[White Horse]

Hopefully Cork will keep the Browne - Bennett partnership throughout the season

I thought changing this would have been a priority for them. In a way they got away with it in 2016, they did have the best defensive record after all.

[WoodquayBoy]

Cork thought the title was in the bag when Towell left. This is the third pre-season in a row where Dundalk are supposed to have been fatally weakened.
A big difference between losing Towell at the end of one season, and losing Horgan AND Boyle AND Finn at the end of another.
Not sure Cork will be the main challengers in 2017, Bradley is throwing a decent squad together, nab a top striker and they are a real danger

[Charlie Darwin]

A big difference between losing Towell at the end of one season, and losing Horgan AND Boyle AND Finn at the end of another.
Not sure Cork will be the main challengers in 2017, Bradley is throwing a decent squad together, nab a top striker and they are a real danger
Thanks for the show of support, Stuey.

[WoodquayBoy]

Thanks for the show of support, Stuey.
Stuey? As in Byrne - how dare you, and at Christmas of all times. No idea what I did to offend you, for you to offend me in such a manner.