Transfer Rumours 201X Season

[micls]

Rovers want to make Duffy highest paid player in the league according to some! Cant compete though!

Are you joking?

Even if true, There's an enormous difference between paying one player a huge salary (highest in the league) and having a huge squad of quality players all on high salaries. Most top clubs could splash out on one or two. The difference is going to be in depth. Currently, dundalk could probably field 2 teams that would finish top 4/5.

[White Horse]

Are you joking?

Even if true, There's an enormous difference between paying one player a huge salary (highest in the league) and having a huge squad of quality players all on high salaries. Most top clubs could splash out on one or two. The difference is going to be in depth. Currently, dundalk could probably field 2 teams that would finish top 4/5.

How do you know they are all on "high salaries"?

I don't claim to know what Cork players are being paid. How do you know how much Dundalk players are being paid?

[Ezeikial]

He hardly has a reputation for setting a high bar for cerebral or incisive commentary, but his audience here are Shamrock Rovers supporters.

1) McEleney becomes available and Bradley says he wants him
He is a top player. He showed that before he went and he is a player I have always admired.
“He is someone who would fit the bill for us.
“All we can do is throw our hat in the ring and see what happens. We have done that but it’s up to Patrick.”

2) McEleney rejects Bradley’s offer and opts to return to Dundalk
“He’s a top player but we can’t compete financially.

3) Bradley throws in a red herring to deflect attention from Rovers not being able to compete
“I think we need to be very careful as a league.

“We talk about wanting respect and demanding fees for players but if you let *players walk out the door for nothing and buy them back, it’s a very strange scenario to get yourself into.

Transfer Fee or Signing-on fee - Is there a difference?
The distinction between a transfer fee, training compensation, a signing-on fee, or simply the size of a players wage is largely irrelevant as it is the overall investment by a club into a player that is important.

Bradley appears to forget that there was a time recently when Rovers seemed to only sign players who had previously played for them.

Who is the foolish one?
Could it be that the suggestion that Dundak re-signing McEleney will cause League of Ireland clubs to look foolish to English club is….eh foolish?

[micls]

How do you know they are all on "high salaries"?

I don't claim to know what Cork players are being paid. How do you know how much Dundalk players are being paid?

Ah come off it. You are signing top quality players who are wanted by other clubs. McEleney, Kelly and Watts if it happens are all wanted by other clubs. They are not signing on for anything less than 'high salaries'. It's ridiculous to try to claim otherwise.

Likewise, you've been tying key squad members up on long term contracts (which is very sensible and an important step). Again, these players are not signing for small money.

I'm sure there are some of your players, who are with you from earlier times, on lower money, but the reality is from now on players signing for you know you have money. That drives up the price. Especially when you're almost exclusively signing players wanted by other clubs.

I don't know what Dundalk players are being paid, but I know the ones who you beat the competition to sign are very likely on high wages. And the number of those are going to increase.

I also don't know what our players are being paid. I do know the ones we had competition for are likely on high salaries, Sadlier, Shep and McNamee probably being the stand out ones. The main reason I think our average is lower, is that most of our players are either from Cork, McCarthy and McLoughlin would be on tiny money, Mults and Buckley there was never much competition for them to move on, Benno, Delaney, Morrisey and Cummins are obviously on bigger money but the ability to come home played a big part, or our players weren't in huge demand when we signed them initially (Beattie, McCormack, Griffin, Horgan). Seanis first contract would be another example of that. His second contract an example of how the competition pushes the price up.

We're spending a good chunk of money, 1.5m is not chump change in this league! But the circumstances of our players signing will have impacted many of their salaries.

I think it's naive to think the same isn't going to happen at Dundalk and that most of their players won't be on high salaries, especially those coming in post 'Peak 6'. You simply have more players that were wanted by other clubs. We did similar a few years back when we had the money and were handing out big contracts to the likes of Gamble and Georgie, though that was done with less sense involved.

You've obviously got the money, so it's probably not an issue, but it will drive up prices for top players in the league.

[sbgawa]

I don't get why dundalk supporters are trying to deny or talk down the huge money being thrown around. You have millions from Europe and have been taken over by billionaires ......if they weren't paying the highest wages and splashing transfer fees you'd have a right to ask what are they doing with the money. If rovers go all the way in Europe this year I'd be dissapointed if we weren't spending money next year.
This is probably the easiest league in Europe to buy and dominate. Small crowds and no tv money.

[Ezeikial]

I don't get why dundalk supporters are trying to deny or talk down the huge money being thrown around.

Is that what is happening?

Most Dundalk supporters are delighted by the recent additions of Kelly and McEleney with the anticipation of Dylan Watts being added to that.

The Mike Treacy led consortium promised investment into the playing, management and administration staff and they have been true to their word in all these areas.

Stephen Kenny led the club to be the dominant club in Ireland over the last 5 years; we are all hopeful that the current developments can take the club to a higher level again.

[jinxy lilywhite]

Ah come off it. You are signing top quality players who are wanted by other clubs. McEleney, Kelly and Watts if it happens are all wanted by other clubs. They are not signing on for anything less than 'high salaries'. It's ridiculous to try to claim otherwise.

Likewise, you've been tying key squad members up on long term contracts (which is very sensible and an important step). Again, these players are not signing for small money.

I'm sure there are some of your players, who are with you from earlier times, on lower money, but the reality is from now on players signing for you know you have money. That drives up the price. Especially when you're almost exclusively signing players wanted by other clubs.

I don't know what Dundalk players are being paid, but I know the ones who you beat the competition to sign are very likely on high wages. And the number of those are going to increase.

I also don't know what our players are being paid. I do know the ones we had competition for are likely on high salaries, Sadlier, Shep and McNamee probably being the stand out ones. The main reason I think our average is lower, is that most of our players are either from Cork, McCarthy and McLoughlin would be on tiny money, Mults and Buckley there was never much competition for them to move on, Benno, Delaney, Morrisey and Cummins are obviously on bigger money but the ability to come home played a big part, or our players weren't in huge demand when we signed them initially (Beattie, McCormack, Griffin, Horgan). Seanis first contract would be another example of that. His second contract an example of how the competition pushes the price up.

We're spending a good chunk of money, 1.5m is not chump change in this league! But the circumstances of our players signing will have impacted many of their salaries.

I think it's naive to think the same isn't going to happen at Dundalk and that most of their players won't be on high salaries, especially those coming in post 'Peak 6'. You simply have more players that were wanted by other clubs. We did similar a few years back when we had the money and were handing out big contracts to the likes of Gamble and Georgie, though that was done with less sense involved.

You've obviously got the money, so it's probably not an issue, but it will drive up prices for top players in the league.


This time last year you paid a significant 5 figure sum for Sadlier.
The last window you signed an SPL regular striker
This window you have signed an EPL premier league regular.

Dundalk spend a few quid and rovers and cork have a cry about it.
at the end of the day we can only field 11 players at a time.

[Real ale Madrid]

This window you have signed an EPL premier league regular.


I'm glad we got the word out about that on twitter.

[Nesta99]

I don't get why dundalk supporters are trying to deny or talk down the huge money being thrown around. You have millions from Europe and have been taken over by billionaires ......if they weren't paying the highest wages and splashing transfer fees you'd have a right to ask what are they doing with the money. If rovers go all the way in Europe this year I'd be dissapointed if we weren't spending money next year.
This is probably the easiest league in Europe to buy and dominate. Small crowds and no tv money.

Old habits!?! As mentioned before LoI fans seem to take a moral objection to clubs spending money. It's obviously due to the history of clubs that spent big in the past and damaged the league when they got in to diiculty. I think Dundalk fans, myself included, still fear that history could be repeated down the line and what we are spending might not be sustainable. Of course we hope that our situation will be different from Shels, Drogheda et al, but it doesnt stop the little nag in the back of the head. Hopefully this is a genuine new era in LoI that is sustainable and more clubs get the inward investment from proper investors. I want Dundalk to dominate forever and a day and would make no apologies if due to the new owners that this happens using financial clout. I suppose when I read managers of other clubs using Dundalk spending as a way to detract from the league I think its a pity. Claiming issues with credibility by re-signing one of the leagues most talented players back to the league is a folly. It could have the opposite effect where English clubs think that LoI clubs will no longer fold for a pittance when negotiating a transfer deal. The days of take hand and all for 20k thinking of UK clubs might just be coming to an end......

[sbgawa]

Is that what is happening?

Most Dundalk supporters are delighted by the recent additions of Kelly and McEleney with the anticipation of Dylan Watts being added to that.

The Mike Treacy led consortium promised investment into the playing, management and administration staff and they have been true to their word in all these areas.

Stephen Kenny led the club to be the dominant club in Ireland over the last 5 years; we are all hopeful that the current developments can take the club to a higher level again.

I think you are selectively quoting me there as if I'm attacking Dundalk for spending money or fans for denying it , I'm actually saying I've no problem with it whatsoever. Good luck to DFC they have it they are entitled to spend it.
I honestly don't think either JC or SB were whinging about it they were just being honest and stating facts, they cant compete on financial terms anymore with DFC. so be it its up to Cork Rovers or whomever to find another way.

[White Horse]

I don't get why dundalk supporters are trying to deny or talk down the huge money being thrown around.

I also can't think why fans would take issue with this either.

[sbgawa]

Jeez now you are being very sensitive , I was typing quickly , should have said " with the huge money being invested in the team" my point is the same I don't care good luck to you if we had it id want it spent and to dominate. If we won 10 in a row id be looking for number 11 :)

[Ezeikial]

I think you are selectively quoting me there as if I'm attacking Dundalk for spending money or fans for denying it ,

Sorry about that. Somehow or other I thought you were suggesting fans were denying it (and that you don't understand why). Probably influenced by your opening sentence:


I don't get why dundalk supporters are trying to deny or talk down the huge money being thrown around.

[micls]

This time last year you paid a significant 5 figure sum for Sadlier.
The last window you signed an SPL regular striker
This window you have signed an EPL premier league regular.

Dundalk spend a few quid and rovers and cork have a cry about it.
at the end of the day we can only field 11 players at a time.

Well done on completely ignoring the entire post you quoted and pointing out something I already acknowledged.

Crying about it? By acknowledging the reality of it? You will be out spending us. By quite some distance. That will give you a significant advantage. That's the reality. I'm not sure why dundalk fans feel the need to argue otherwise.

[Nesta99]

its up to Cork Rovers or whomever to find another way.

Well Fordsons, Hibs, Celtic and City etc all tried so why not a Cork Rovers!!

[Ezeikial]

Well done on completely ignoring the entire post you quoted and pointing out something I already acknowledged.

Crying about it? By acknowledging the reality of it? You will be out spending us. By quite some distance. That will give you a significant advantage. That's the reality. I'm not sure why dundalk fans feel the need to argue otherwise.

Your interpretation of "argue" appears to include discuss / debate / have alternative perspectives.

Let me be clear on the point you raise about acquiring a significant advantage:

Dundalk have already had a significant advantage over most of the last four seasons as evidenced primarily by winning 3 league titles in a row and reaching the Europa League group stages - mainly because of Stephen Kenny and the last owners. Cork eclipsed that gap last year and all Dundalk fans eagerly wish to see that advantage restored this season and widened in the seasons ahead.

Part of that is likely to be the additional investment that the current owners appear to be willing to put into the playing budget. We all hope that this will lead to further success and then subsequent re-investment to maintain that advantage

There may well be discussion on other points (such as the validity of the comments from Caulfield and Bradley, that some see as defeatist or a deflection), but the goal of try to develop a "significant advantage" over rivals is indisputable

[micls]

While dundalk have undoubtedly been dominant, most years they've been pushed close. The gap between the squads has been small and Dundalk's experience and Kennys management has seen them through, imo.

My concern, and id imagine it's similar for Rovers fans and others, is that the gap between squads is going to become significantly wider, as the budget increases well beyond others. This won't so much be with the league in mind, but for the aimed for Euro runs, where a bigger squad of quality is needed to ensure ye can qualify for CL while performing in Europe.

I think the goal isn't to maintain they advantage ye had, but to increase it to the point that ye can be successful year on year on all fronts. This is great for Dundalk fans of course, but it's not surprising that other fans and managers are nervous of a Rosenborg style domination in the coming years.

[Nesta99]

Caulfield and Bradser if we dont hammer Talinn!

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae96/Gaynor_Fallon/mQI8KCD_zpss6nnxu9l.gif

[Longfordian]

According to Neil O’Riordan, Dylan Watts has apparently changed his mind and is no longer headed for Dundalk.

[Charlie Darwin]

According to Neil O’Riordan, Dylan Watts has apparently changed his mind and is no longer headed for Dundalk.
Didn't take Bray long to get back to form.

[Longfordian]

Off to Galway on €4k a week apparently

[Ezeikial]

I think the goal isn't to maintain they advantage ye had, but to increase it to the point that ye can be successful year on year on all fronts. This is great for Dundalk fans of course, but it's not surprising that other fans and managers are nervous of a Rosenborg style domination in the coming years.


Whoa! Close the forum now - you seem to actually agree with me!!



Dundalk fans eagerly wish to see that advantage restored this season and widened in the seasons ahead.

[Ezeikial]

According to Neil O’Riordan, Dylan Watts has apparently changed his mind and is no longer headed for Dundalk.

Damn - there's our plans for European domination gone up in smoke.

Peak6 Out

[ToberonaTornado]

Season screwed now,Watts is going to Rovers according to the Sun.(Aaron Greene as well)

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/2810800/shamrock-rovers-look-set-to-sign-aaron-greene-and-in-demand-midfielder-dylan-watts/

[White Horse]

Season screwed now,Watts is going to Rovers according to the Sun.(Aaron Greene as well)

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/2810800/shamrock-rovers-look-set-to-sign-aaron-greene-and-in-demand-midfielder-dylan-watts/

Rovers throwing cash around.

[Charlie Darwin]

Rovers throwing cash around.
That might bump our budget up into the fourth highest in the league.

[Ezeikial]

Is this the same Aaron Greene that Shamrock Rovers released for free in 2012 and then goes and pays the player a signing on fee to come back?

Letting players walk out the door and then taking them back again after talking gibberish about others can make a club look foolish. I hope no English clubs find out about this

[RathfarnhamHoop]

While dundalk have undoubtedly been dominant, most years they've been pushed close. The gap between the squads has been small and Dundalk's experience and Kennys management has seen them through, imo.

My concern, and id imagine it's similar for Rovers fans and others, is that the gap between squads is going to become significantly wider, as the budget increases well beyond others. This won't so much be with the league in mind, but for the aimed for Euro runs, where a bigger squad of quality is needed to ensure ye can qualify for CL while performing in Europe.

I think the goal isn't to maintain they advantage ye had, but to increase it to the point that ye can be successful year on year on all fronts. This is great for Dundalk fans of course, but it's not surprising that other fans and managers are nervous of a Rosenborg style domination in the coming years.

I probably should be more worried than I am really, in the short term yeah this squad investment is very worrying but when I'll really start to worry is when Dundalk invest in their stadium,training ground and academy too. I'm not saying just investing in those, obviously the team needs investment too but it's no coincidence that the clubs that have split their investments between structure and squad during their periods of success (Man United, Rosenborg, what city are doing now) have fared far better in terms of prolonged success than those that have just invested in their squads.

I've no problem with Dundalk spending all their money on their squad it's theirs to do as they wish with, still stupid to buy back a player you lost for free 6 months ago after him doing very little mind, but thats reliant on a good deal of luck to be sustainable so if I were a Dundalk fan I'm not sure I'd be too happy.

[Charlie Darwin]

Is this the same Aaron Greene that Shamrock Rovers released for free in 2012 and then goes and pays the player a signing on fee to come back?

Letting players walk out the door and then taking them back again after talking gibberish about others can make a club look foolish. I hope no English clubs find out about this
Aaron Greene is a fine man and a fine signing and any posts of mine that intimate in any way that he's a waste of space were clearly hacked.


I probably should be more worried than I am really, in the short term yeah this squad investment is very worrying but when I'll really start to worry is when Dundalk invest in their stadium,training ground and academy too. I'm not saying just investing in those, obviously the team needs investment too but it's no coincidence that the clubs that have split their investments between structure and squad during their periods of success (Man United, Rosenborg, what city are doing now) have fared far better in terms of prolonged success than those that have just invested in their squads.

I've no problem with Dundalk spending all their money on their squad it's theirs to do as they wish with, still stupid to buy back a player you lost for free 6 months ago after him doing very little mind, but thats reliant on a good deal of luck to be sustainable so if I were a Dundalk fan I'm not sure I'd be too happy.
If he scores the goal that wins them the league the fee they paid will be forgotten.

[Ezeikial]

I've no problem with Dundalk spending all their money on their squad it's theirs to do as they wish with, still stupid to buy back a player you lost for free 6 months ago after him doing very little mind, but thats reliant on a good deal of luck to be sustainable so if I were a Dundalk fan I'm not sure I'd be too happy.

It' would be nonsense for anyone so say that it is stupid for Dundalk to sign McEleney and simultaneously imply that it would be intelligent for Rovers to sign him.

Is there a time limit on the 'stupidity' of re-signing a player after he has left?

Your claimed confusion and empathy for the emotional contentment of being a Dundalk fan are truly touching

[RathfarnhamHoop]

Is this the same Aaron Greene that Shamrock Rovers released for free in 2012 and then goes and pays the player a signing on fee to come back?

Letting players walk out the door and then taking them back again after talking gibberish about others can make a club look foolish. I hope no English clubs find out about this

Dundalk gave Oldham money, Rovers wouldn't be giving Bray any so I've no idea what you're ****eing on about here Ez apples and oranges. Not sure how I'd feel about signing Greene though, prefer the look of Coughlan and Galvin from what I've seen this season in fairness.

[Ezeikial]

Aaron Greene is a fine man and a fine signing and any posts of mine that intimate in any way that he's a waste of space were clearly hacked.



Lol - I think that Aaron Greene is indeed a fine signing and is likely to do well for Rovers, if Bradser doesn't play him at left back

[RathfarnhamHoop]

It' would be nonsense for anyone so say that it is stupid for Dundalk to sign McEleney and simultaneously imply that it would be intelligent for Rovers to sign him.

Is there a time limit on the 'stupidity' of re-signing a player after he has left?

Your claimed confusion and empathy for the emotional contentment of being a Dundalk fan are truly touching

Rovers didn't lose Mceleney for free in the first place though. It'd be like me giving you my phone for free then coming back 6 months later and giving you a 10er for it back, a bit stupid, whereas if someone else gives you a tenner for it that's not as stupid because they never gave it away for free in the first place.

[Ezeikial]

Dundalk gave Oldham money, Rovers wouldn't be giving Bray any so I've no idea what you're ****eing on about here Ez apples and oranges. Not sure how I'd feel about signing Greene though, prefer the look of Coughlan and Galvin from what I've seen this season in fairness.

Please keep up there RH - read the post again. There is no effective difference in Signing-on fees or Transfer fees or Training Compensation fees; they are all payments that are part of the cost of signing a player in addition to any wages or bonus payments in a contract

[Ezeikial]

Rovers didn't lose Mceleney for free in the first place though. It'd be like me giving you my phone for free then coming back 6 months later and giving you a 10er for it back, a bit stupid, whereas if someone else gives you a tenner for it that's not as stupid because they never gave it away for free in the first place.

I get it now.

You could just go and buy a new phone for €200 (or a dodgy second-hand for €50)

[RathfarnhamHoop]

Please keep up there RH - read the post again. There is no effective difference in Signing-on fees or Transfer fees or Training Compensation fees; they are all payments that are part of the cost of signing a player in addition to any wages or bonus payments in a contract

Oh sorry I forgot you've access to the Rovers books so know they pay all their players a huge signing on fee...:rolleyes:

[Ezeikial]

Oh sorry I forgot you've access to the Rovers books so know they pay all their players a huge signing on fee...:rolleyes:

Of course I don't know the terms of any proposed deal for Aaron Greene, no more than I know the terms of the deal struck for Patrick McEleney. But I am sure that even you will agree that he is unlikely to be coming in on amateur terms.

In any case the good news is that Aaron Greene has experience of winning the FAI Cup

[brendy_éire]

Is this a new rule? First time I've noticed it.

From https://www.derrycityfc.net/2018/07/city-seek-to-banish-blues/
"Kenny’s son Dean was expected to be in the squad for the visit of the Shannonsiders, however the club confirmed this morning that the FAI have notified them that Shiels junior will be suspended for the game having only served one of two games handed to him in Scotland last season."

Strange one.

[RathfarnhamHoop]

Of course I don't know the terms of any proposed deal for Aaron Greene, no more than I know the terms of the deal struck for Patrick McEleney. But I am sure that even you will agree that he is unlikely to be coming in on amateur terms.

In any case the good news is that Aaron Greene has experience of winning the FAI Cup

You do realise in the context of what Bradley was saying signing on fees, which are normally tiny compared to transfer fees by the way, are completely different to transfer fees.

[sbgawa]

Is this the same Aaron Greene that Shamrock Rovers released for free in 2012 and then goes and pays the player a signing on fee to come back?

Letting players walk out the door and then taking them back again after talking gibberish about others can make a club look foolish. I hope no English clubs find out about this

Lol signing on fee....signing out fee.. :) wonder do players in his situation get the back money they are owed,,

[RathfarnhamHoop]

Lol signing on fee....signing out fee.. :) wonder do players in his situation get the back money they are owed,,

He's owed up until his last pay day but effectively goes to the back of the q I think.

[dundalkfc10]

The YDC is one of the best training facilities in the league with a number of indoor pitches which can be opened into one big pitch, full gym facilities etc..

Peak 6 are making slight improvements to Oriel and as the chairman has said recently planning options/ plans have gone in and would be a few months before they got word back.

[Ezeikial]

https://www.derryjournal.com/sport/football/derry-city/derry-city-boss-admits-frustration-at-missing-out-on-patrick-mceleney-1-8553476

There must be something wrong here as Kenny Shield speaks calmly about his disappointment on missing out on McEleney and Kellly

[RathfarnhamHoop]

The YDC is one of the best training facilities in the league with a number of indoor pitches which can be opened into one big pitch, full gym facilities etc..

Peak 6 are making slight improvements to Oriel and as the chairman has said recently planning options/ plans have gone in and would be a few months before they got word back.

The YDC is decent by LOI standards in fairness but thats mostly because most other places are so bad. The indoor pitches in the YDC are grand for stuff like pre season running and some small sided games but in terms of team training its too small really, the gym is nice too but compare it the UCD's and it could be a lot better and that's all Dundalk have really other than oriel's pitch and the grass one beside it, it's grand but it's not going to have a player from abroad looking at it and going yeah this clubs going places where do I sign.

[Nesta99]

Shiels talking about signing McEleney, Duffy and Kelly is certainly showing ambition but surely all those man hours would have been better spent on the training ground with a defensive coach while waiting for Peers to come back or Seaborne to sign(he could be a very good signing tbf).

[ToberonaTornado]

The YDC is decent by LOI standards in fairness but thats mostly because most other places are so bad. The indoor pitches in the YDC are grand for stuff like pre season running and some small sided games but in terms of team training its too small really, the gym is nice too but compare it the UCD's and it could be a lot better and that's all Dundalk have really other than oriel's pitch and the grass one beside it, it's grand but it's not going to have a player from abroad looking at it and going yeah this clubs going places where do I sign.

Players like Chevdukas,Adorjan, & Tagbajumi? Duffy,Jarvis & McEleney etc :D you mean :p

[Nesta99]

The YDC is decent by LOI standards in fairness but thats mostly because most other places are so bad. The indoor pitches in the YDC are grand for stuff like pre season running and some small sided games but in terms of team training its too small really, the gym is nice too but compare it the UCD's and it could be a lot better and that's all Dundalk have really other than oriel's pitch and the grass one beside it, it's grand but it's not going to have a player from abroad looking at it and going yeah this clubs going places where do I sign.

There is a little bit more in the YDC with a medical/physio therapy facility, sports science room and video analysis room. The sports science room is very well kitted out and links in with Statsports, but there is a whole lot more there with biomechanic analysis equipment etc. Video analysis is multifuctional with being part of the video capture stuff for biomechanics and also then tactical analysis type stuff. The YDC gym is basic enough but the club was sponsored by a gym that is fully equiped so no need to expand that within Oriel Park currently. There was catering able to be done there but I dont think meal are done inhouse though the players do have lunch I presume in what was the former bar. Like everything else at the club currently its a work in progress but certainly more than the indoor training pitches and an average gym. Lots of scope for adding to!

[disgruntled]

The YDC is decent by LOI standards in fairness but thats mostly because most other places are so bad. The indoor pitches in the YDC are grand for stuff like pre season running and some small sided games but in terms of team training its too small really, the gym is nice too but compare it the UCD's and it could be a lot better and that's all Dundalk have really other than oriel's pitch and the grass one beside it, it's grand but it's not going to have a player from abroad looking at it and going yeah this clubs going places where do I sign.


Players like Chevdukas,Adorjan, & Tagbajumi? Duffy,Jarvis & McEleney etc :D you mean :p

Yea they're definitely there for the facilities alright :)

[Ezeikial]

https://www.derryjournal.com/sport/football/derry-city/derry-city-boss-admits-frustration-at-missing-out-on-patrick-mceleney-1-8553476

There must be something wrong here as Kenny Shield speaks calmly about his disappointment on missing out on McEleney and Kellly

Maybe his calmness may be related to his vibrant imagination.

According to today's Info McEleney has said that he got no approach from Derry about a return to the Candystripers

Maybe they did not want to look foolish to UK clubs

[Mr A]

Maybe they did not want to look foolish to UK clubs

Must resist... must resist.. must resist.