League of Ireland in Europe 2016

[Guitd]

Unlucky cork good second half Genk had a bit of class upfront made difference in end
Never seen the pitch in turners x look so bad pity for a big euro game

[bennocelt]

No shame tbf, Genk with an annual budget of over 40 million, and they missed a hatful of chances. Cork did well to get through two rounds......and keeping this tie competitive enough

[nigel-harps1954]

Genk are a class above. They looked better than BATE. At the same time, Cork weren't really at their best. On another night it could have been so different.

Nevertheless, they've every right to be proud of their efforts in Europe and they too pick up a nice financial bonus for their run as well as costs practically all covered with their full house tonight in Turners Cross.

The biggest disappointment is that two defeats have done nothing for theirs, or the leagues co-efficient.

Still a decent advertisement for the league.

[TonyD]

I thought we approached it the same way. We played very tight at the back and we're cautious not to over comitt going forward. Our 1st was a forae with a couple of mins to go in the 1st half. Think it was only our second solid attack.

Agree. Dundalks first goal was massive the other night. Totally changed the game. Up till then I wouldn't have given them a prayer of progressing. After it they were a different team. You could almost see the self belief flood into them. Funnily enough if you'd asked me last week after the first legs who I thought had the better chance of progression I'd have said Cork, but they never looked like doing it tonight. Plenty of effort but not enough quality. They actually played a lot better last week I thought.

[jinxy lilywhite]

Agree. Dundalks first goal was massive the other night. Totally changed the game. Up till then I wouldn't have given them a prayer of progressing. After it they were a different team. You could almost see the self belief flood into them. Funnily enough if you'd asked me last week after the first legs who I thought had the better chance of progression I'd have said Cork, but they never looked like doing it tonight. Plenty of effort but not enough quality. They actually played a lot better last week I thought.

I think Corks experience was similar to ours last season with bate. The 1st leg in particular. They didn't prepare properly for us and we had a go but could only get 1 goal. They had us figured out by the 2nd leg and stopped us getting forward.

On the contrary this tie BATE hammered us in the 1st leg wasteful and a stellar defensive performance but they didn't prepare properly for us in tallaght. Hit 2nd gear and couldn't up it when they needed too. The weather help us. Everything came together.

Cork will learn from this and on the plus side for them dundalk have to play a whopping 22 games in 84 days excluding further progression in the FAI cup.

[White Horse]

If only Cork could have got the away goal their performance deserved last week. Caulfield commented on that after the game.

There is no margin for error in games against superior opposition. Everyone needs to play 8 out of 10. That just didn't happen for Cork tonight.

[legendz]

Hard luck Cork. It's the nature of knockout football when coming up against a superior opponent. Cork learned lessons from last year. Hopefully like Dundalk they can advance again year on year in Europe. 3 LoI teams go into the EL. Hopefully in a few years we'll see at least one club make the playoffs more often than not.

[patrickccfc]

Wasn't to be tonight unfortunately. Genk really stepped it up and we just couldn't get a proper foothold in the game. The lack of an away goal made this an uphill task. Delighted with the progression from last year, we can be well proud of that. On the atmosphere, it was electric tonight particularly after we scored. Will be rooting for dundalk in the rest of their European adventure.

Going to be strange going back to the bread and butter of the league against Sligo on Monday night.

[Pablo Escobar]

I knew it was over at half-time and really wanted to see Marky come on.....and he did.....and Genk did not know what to do with him. His commitment is hilariously insane and he just terrifies defenders. Legend!

[BonnieShels]

Thats exactly what I thought too, and I also thought that they lost 0-3 at home.

I shall keep this demonstration of your fallibility as a token that you are indeed human (or human-like) after all.

[paul_oshea]

Bar Celtic, how many do you expect to get in the Aviva? 12-16000?

I do think that landsdowne is much handier to get to for people than tallaght, the neutrals that live in Dublin. But if its not Celtic I'd be suprised with more than 16000, especially as CL is midweek.

I am so convinced by this, that I dreamt last night that CD said 12k and I formulated the reply in my sleep....:rolleyes: :D

How much will they pay for rental of it? could they offer tickets at 10-15 euro to entice more people.


I shall keep this demonstration of your fallibility as a token that you are indeed human (or human-like) after all.

I was just more concerned that we actually agreed on something, our thought process or memory was exactly the same :scary:

[GCdfc]

If Dundalk draw Celtic then charge €10-15 for Dundalk supporters and other LOI fans wearing their teams jersey (apart from the Rovers home one for obvious reasons). Then charge Irish Celtic supporters €40. They'd wet their pants being able to see Celtic in the CL. For the British Celtic supporters...€40 would do too because they love a trip to Dublin and would come anyway.

[frenchman]

30 minutes to go before the draw and probably a bit late but what are ''we'' wanting to see here....?
best financial gain in the short term? = celtic and don't qualify
In the short term cash-in Delaney-esque.......the best would be a full house (so Celtic) and then maybe lose....
In the long term any form of qualification for CL group stage will easily wipe out any half empty stadium rental problem......
what I'm trying to say is that the worst senario for Dundalk is to draw a team that don't appear on Sky (so officially no good!) , rent the Aviva at I presume a million and then have 15 000 people show up!!!
anything other than that is the lotto I think for them............

[paul_oshea]

If Dundalk draw Celtic then charge €10-15 for Dundalk supporters and other LOI fans wearing their teams jersey (apart from the Rovers home one for obvious reasons). Then charge Irish Celtic supporters €40. They'd wet their pants being able to see Celtic in the CL. For the British Celtic supporters...€40 would do too because they love a trip to Dublin and would come anyway.

That sounds funny, but could you actually do that and what about those that fall into I don't support Celtic and I don't support Dundalk(except tonight of course), I also am a hobo with no LOI club in less than a 40 mile radius?

[jinxy lilywhite]

Celtic offer the best opportunity of progression. They are the worst of the seeds
Then plzen
Nicosia
Salzburg
Legia Warsaw

[pineapple stu]

Not Plzan anyway - bit of a blow

[pineapple stu]

And not Celtic, thankfully.

[pineapple stu]

Here we go - Dundalk v Legia...

[Dalymountrower]

That will fill the A viva. ....With Polish fans.

[Real ale Madrid]

Not sure what to make of that - lowest ranking team they could have got. Are they better than BATE?

[White Horse]

Legia, with the first game at home. I'll take that.

[pineapple stu]

Pat's were unlucky not to beat them a couple of years ago.

Flip side is Legia will probably be unlikely to take Dundalk too lightly as a result.

[Yossarian]

Would have liked to be away first but it's not the worst draw.

[colonelwest]

Legia Warsaw, that's a great draw for the club, fantastic chance of making it through! First leg at home as well.

[TonyD]

Pat's were unlucky not to beat them a couple of years ago.

Flip side is Legia will probably be unlikely to take Dundalk too lightly as a result.


I don't think you could say we were unlucky in the tie overall. Maybe unlucky not to hold on for a win out there, but we were well beaten at home. Mind you, there were mitigating factors there as we lost three quarters of our defence either before or during the game. As you say though, with our performance out there, and Dundalks result against Bate I don't think Legia will underestimate them. Difficult tie I think. I don't think playing in the Aviva is going to do Dundalk any favours.

[brendy_éire]

Are they better than BATE?

Going by the coefficient, yes.

Pats got a 1-1 draw over there a couple of years ago, but lost 5-0 at home.
It's a tough draw, but sure ye never know.

[TonyD]

I knew it was over at half-time and really wanted to see Marky come on.....and he did.....and Genk did not know what to do with him. His commitment is hilariously insane and he just terrifies defenders. Legend!

So essentially what you're saying is, he was on fire, and their defence was terrified ? ;)

[paul_oshea]

Pat's were unlucky not to beat them a couple of years ago.

Flip side is Legia will probably be unlikely to take Dundalk too lightly as a result.

Didn't they lost 5 - 0 in the return fixture? Its a 2 legged affair..

[Real ale Madrid]

So essentially what you're saying is, he was on fire, and their defence was terrified ? ;)

no no no no no no no no no no no no

[BonnieShels]

I'm delighted it's not Celtic tbh for the reasons above.

Anyway, come on Dundalk.

[Real ale Madrid]

Going by the coefficient, yes.

Pats got a 1-1 draw over there a couple of years ago, but lost 5-0 at home.
It's a tough draw, but sure ye never know.

BATE co-eff was 34.00 - Legia's 28.00

[pineapple stu]

I don't think you could say we were unlucky in the tie overall. Maybe unlucky not to hold on for a win out there, but we were well beaten at home.
Sorry, yes - meant to say unlucky not to beat them out there alright. Home leg was a hammering. And as you say, means Legia won't be going in entirely blind.

[White Horse]

Talking to a few Polish co-workers and they can't wait to go to the Aviva, to cheer on Dundalk.

Poles don't support each other's clubs in Europe, you are either a Legia fan or you hate them.

[usename]

Reckon it's probably the best draw Dundalk could of got, as someone said ealrier, Dundalk were never going to be favorites no matter who they got! but you've got to be happy with this!"

[paul_oshea]

I think Warsaw, and the home game being first is a lot harder a draw than it could have been.

[disgruntled]

Good luck to Dundalk against Legia.
Not the worst draw to get.
I think Dundalk have a good chance.

[eL Bettor]

Why is it so often said the last few days that no Irish club has got this far and then today ..


DID YOU KNOW? Dundalk are the first Irish side in play-offs, and the 35th nation to be represented. #UCL pic.twitter.com/SlwvStdPkP

— Champions League (@ChampionsLeague) August 4, 2016


What about Shelbourne in '04? Why was that not equivalent to this?!

[Acornvilla]

Why is it so often said the last few days that no Irish club has got this far and then today ..


DID YOU KNOW? Dundalk are the first Irish side in play-offs, and the 35th nation to be represented. #UCL pic.twitter.com/SlwvStdPkP

— Champions League (@ChampionsLeague) August 4, 2016


What about Shelbourne in '04? Why was that not equivalent to this?!
The only reason I can see is because the competition was restructured since then, with there being 4 rounds now as opposed to 3. I'd still consider it the same achievement personally..

[ger121]

Chatting to my mate whose missus is Polish and a big football supporter. Not a chance will non Legia fans support them in Europe, probably the opposite. However, they do have a big support base here so would expect a big crowd from them.

On the tie itself. Lowest seed and did ok so far without setting the world on fire. They've a chance and a clean-sheet in the 1st leg will set them up nicely for going away, where the pressure switches to the home side not to concede an away goal.

I personally think they can do it and Dundalk will not fear Legia at all.

[eL Bettor]

The only reason I can see is because the competition was restructured since then, with there being 4 rounds now as opposed to 3. I'd still consider it the same achievement personally..

Yes, and the 1st of those 4 rounds only contains the 6 or 8 lowest ranked countries!

[BonnieShels]

Reckon it's probably the best draw Dundalk could of got, as someone said ealrier, Dundalk were never going to be favorites no matter who they got! but you've got to be happy with this!"

Don't let Tets see that.

[D24Saint]

Another problem is the increased security due to legia's reputation they caused a bit of trouble for our game in Tallaght.

[BonnieShels]

When are tickets on sale?

[Kingdom]

Blow-in alert.
RTE this morning were reporting how it would be great to draw Celtic for the full house, even if it meant most fans would be supporting Celtic, and also little chance of progression.
Our sports casters just don't get it.

Funny when I heard they drew Warsaw, I worried about a big Polish support from Legia fans, rather than the Polish community. It's as good a draw as can be expected, hopefully a decent crowd, 25k plus will turn up to support Dundalk.

[colonelwest]

RTE to show the first leg (the Weds) and TV3 the second (the following Tues) as far as I know? The proper tv rights kick in now at the playoff stage anyway!

[BonnieShels]

Blow-in alert.
RTE this morning were reporting how it would be great to draw Celtic for the full house, even if it meant most fans would be supporting Celtic, and also little chance of progression.
Our sports casters just don't get it.

Funny when I heard they drew Warsaw, I worried about a big Polish support from Legia fans, rather than the Polish community. It's as good a draw as can be expected, hopefully a decent crowd, 25k plus will turn up to support Dundalk.

Same shoite on TV3 this morning as well. Aidan whats-his-face saying that he hoped they get Celtic cos that would be a great occasion.

[peadar1987]

Same shoite on TV3 this morning as well. Aidan whats-his-face saying that he hoped they get Celtic cos that would be a great occasion.

I was half-hoping they'd get Celtic. Partly because it would be hilarious if they dumped them out, and partly because there'd be a chance I could actually get to the game.

[SPXcyan]

My misses is Polish and all she had to say was "Warsaw is nice." couldn't care less I feel haha

[BonnieShels]

I was half-hoping they'd get Celtic. Partly because it would be hilarious if they dumped them out, and partly because there'd be a chance I could actually get to the game.
The part where they dump them out is one reason where I might have wanted them to get Celtic...

But you know how that would have played out.

[bennocelt]

Same shoite on TV3 this morning as well. Aidan whats-his-face saying that he hoped they get Celtic cos that would be a great occasion.

Yeah for the bandwagon ghouls. Kind of happy they didn't get seltik, but Legia will be a tough team to get past.