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Not sure if it was mentioned already by any Dundalk fan, (too lazy to tab back and read!) but just a word of thanks to all other LOI supporters who made the effort to attend the match.
What a pity we couldn't have scored one to give everyone a lift. However it was still a great occasion, a fairly decent display but a disappointing result.
I'd be still positive looking ahead to the EL group, its another chance to try and get some good results. It will depend on the draw of course, so who knows.
outspoken
18/08/2016, 9:01 PM
Can we please have a team qualify for this stage every season? Great going into slats before the game and seeing LOI jerseys all over the place.
ToberonaTornado
18/08/2016, 9:04 PM
Is Windsor really that bad? Surely it's good enough for European Qualifiers, it would be Cat 4, no?
Was a tounge in cheek remark from the Dundalk co-owner himself a Belfast native.Windsor is a semi building site atm is it not?
EatYerGreens
18/08/2016, 9:52 PM
I fancy Dundalk to get something from the away game tbh.
In a funny way, leaking two away goals may help them as Legia will probably feel it's mostly job done now.
So if Dundalk defend well, I wouldn't be surprised at a 0:0 draw. All good for Dundalk and the League's coefficient.
legendz
18/08/2016, 10:05 PM
I fancy Dundalk to get something from the away game tbh.
In a funny way, leaking two away goals may help them as Legia will probably feel it's mostly job done now.
So if Dundalk defend well, I wouldn't be surprised at a 0:0 draw. All good for Dundalk and the League's coefficient.
1-0 or 2-1 down they'd have a chance. Did Drogheda lose 2-1 at home to Dynamo Kiev, go 2-0 down in the second leg, score 2 goals and miss a chance at the end to go through?
Bohs won away to Kaiserlautern if memory serves me right. They had played some decent stuff in the first leg but lost 3-0.
Yesterday's game was cagey enough. The second leg might open up more. It's not over. If Legia are expecting it easy and Dundalk find themselves 2-1 up with 10 minutes to go, you never know!
oriel
18/08/2016, 10:38 PM
Dundalk lost 2-0 at home to Hajduk Split in 2014 & won 2-1 away. Another goal would have seen us through and from reports it was close as HS were 1-0 and on the ropes.
However I don't recall reading anything at the time about how we almost snatched it, to be fair Drogs came very close that time away to Kiev, they should have gone through.
The fact remains that no Irish club has ever advanced after a two goal deficit from the first leg. As per tweet today from Karl Reilly.
MeathDrog
18/08/2016, 10:46 PM
1-0 or 2-1 down they'd have a chance. Did Drogheda lose 2-1 at home to Dynamo Kiev, go 2-0 down in the second leg, score 2 goals and miss a chance at the end to go through?
Bohs won away to Kaiserlautern if memory serves me right. They had played some decent stuff in the first leg but lost 3-0.
Yesterday's game was cagey enough. The second leg might open up more. It's not over. If Legia are expecting it easy and Dundalk find themselves 2-1 up with 10 minutes to go, you never know!
Drogheda went 1-0 up with a peno afaik. Gartland equalised for 2-2 and then Adam Hughes missed an absolute sitter.
I try not to remember much about that game..
Philosophizer
18/08/2016, 10:48 PM
Did Drogheda lose 2-1 at home to Dynamo Kiev, go 2-0 down in the second leg, score 2 goals and miss a chance at the end to go through?
Correction, they missed 2 glorious chances at the end to go through. In the last 5 mins one lad blazed over from 6 yards with no keeper, and then another shot was fumbled onto the post by the keeper, which then dribbled across the goal and eventually to safety.
Hightlights here from RTE news - https://youtu.be/bgIj_bUJmKk
Even if it wasn't a really terrible idea to go to Windsor (and it is) wherever possible UEFA insist on a CL/EL match being played in the club's own jurisdiction.
Nah Nah Nah Nah
19/08/2016, 8:13 AM
Is Windsor really that bad? Surely it's good enough for European Qualifiers, it would be Cat 4, no?
I've gone to some unbelievable kips on Ireland away games. Think it's a case that if you don't have a ground up to a certain standard anywhere in the country you can play in the best dump available.
Dalymountrower
19/08/2016, 9:02 AM
1-0 or 2-1 down they'd have a chance. Did Drogheda lose 2-1 at home to Dynamo Kiev, go 2-0 down in the second leg, score 2 goals and miss a chance at the end to go through?
Bohs won away to Kaiserlautern if memory serves me right. They had played some decent stuff in the first leg but lost 3-0.
Yesterday's game was cagey enough. The second leg might open up more. It's not over. If Legia are expecting it easy and Dundalk find themselves 2-1 up with 10 minutes to go, you never know!
Bohs Lost 3-1 at home to Kaiserslautern and won 1-0 away plus a perfectly good goal by Crowe disallowed.
Legia are no great shakes, better at playing the ref and physically stronger than Dundalk, less prone to mistakes and not having an honest but sub standard player like Boyle anchoring the defence , swung it for Legia in Lansdowne.
Interesting that their fans were permitted to hoist a political banner for most of the match without interference from the stewards. Safe to say that we now know that John Delaney is not a Bolshevik.
pineapple stu
19/08/2016, 9:11 AM
And a hefty fine on the way to the FAI for all those flares, I'm sure.
Will it be to the FAI or Dundalk?
OwlsFan
19/08/2016, 9:32 AM
Article on the BBC website http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37091532
pineapple stu
19/08/2016, 9:34 AM
Will it be to the FAI or Dundalk?
Worst case, the FAI can shnake it into the cost of hiring the ground.
geysir
19/08/2016, 11:42 AM
Will it be to the FAI or Dundalk?
Isn't it Uefa practice to charge the club of the troublesome fans?
If the flares were only from the LW fans, then at most the only charge facing Dundalk will be for insufficient organization; lack of body search and that should not be such a serious charge for first timers. After all, Dundalk are lighting up their cigars with €50notes.
ToberonaTornado
19/08/2016, 11:49 AM
Isn't it Uefa practice to charge the club of the troublesome fans?
If the flares were only from the LW fans, then at most the only charge facing Dundalk will be for insufficient organization; lack of body search and that should not be such a serious charge for first timers. After all, Dundalk are lighting up their cigars with €50notes.
Huh! stg£50 Northern Bank notes mate ;)
geysir
19/08/2016, 12:03 PM
Even if it wasn't a really terrible idea to go to Windsor (and it is) wherever possible UEFA insist on a CL/EL match being played in the club's own jurisdiction.
And there are other factors, Dublin is by far a more practical location for fans than Belfast, not just for neutrals but also Dundalk fans in exile. Then there is the prestige for the League to have a team in the group stages and garner maximum publicity for these upcoming games, hosted in the capital city of the league's territory, not hidden away out of the limelight in the backwaters of Belfast.
mcgonigle
19/08/2016, 1:27 PM
an honest but sub standard player like Boyle anchoring the defence , swung it for Legia in Lansdowne.
Funny how people see players, for me he is one of if not the best defenders in the league. Then again I only see him play 30+ times a season...
outspoken
19/08/2016, 1:37 PM
Funny how people see players, for me he is one of if not the best defenders in the league. Then again I only see him play 30+ times a season...
He's incredible in the air. Won a header on the edge of his own box the other night and it ended up in the other half.
Boyle has been in team of the season for the last 2 years. He's not Russian so he must be there by merit.
Philosophizer
19/08/2016, 1:58 PM
Funny how people see players, for me he is one of if not the best defenders in the league. Then again I only see him play 30+ times a season...
Agreed. Best CB in the league over the last 2 seasons imho. Gartland tends to get more limelight, probably because he scores a lot too, but Boyle shades it for me overall.
BonnieShels
19/08/2016, 1:59 PM
Correction, they missed 2 glorious chances at the end to go through. In the last 5 mins one lad blazed over from 6 yards with no keeper, and then another shot was fumbled onto the post by the keeper, which then dribbled across the goal and eventually to safety.
Hightlights here from RTE news - https://youtu.be/bgIj_bUJmKk
I will never forget that as long as I live. I almost felt sick watching it trickle. As much as I disliked Drogs back then I felt awful.
Philosophizer
19/08/2016, 2:13 PM
I will never forget that as long as I live. I almost felt sick watching it trickle. As much as I disliked Drogs back then I felt awful.
So many times I've wondered what could have been for Drogs if that ball had trickled behind the line or if Hughes had scored his chance... it really was an unfathomable miss. Drogs future could have been so different. But then i think, the way the club was being run at the time it probably wouldn't have mattered if they had beaten Kiev because they'd likely have spunked away that cash and still ended up bankrupt anyway. Only if they had qualified for the group stages of the CL or the EL would they have been able to keep up their spending.
kksaints
19/08/2016, 3:13 PM
2008 was the first season I really started to follow the LOI (Thanks MNS!) and I can really remember the two matches against Kyiv.They were two fantastic, exciting matches. the first leg Drogs keeper made some amount of saves to keep it at 2-1 and then the second leg jumping out of the seat when Hughes got the chance and then the disbelief when it went over. While the second chance wasnt as clearcut at first, the agony of seeing the ball roll across the line after hitting the post was actually worse than the first chance. Just thinking about it now if it felt that bad for a neutral (I hadn't begun supporting Pats massively at that stage), How bad must it have been for the Drog fans?
BonnieShels
19/08/2016, 3:56 PM
So many times I've wondered what could have been for Drogs if that ball had trickled behind the line or if Hughes had scored his chance... it really was an unfathomable miss. Drogs future could have been so different. But then i think, the way the club was being run at the time it probably wouldn't have mattered if they had beaten Kiev because they'd likely have spunked away that cash and still ended up bankrupt anyway. Only if they had qualified for the group stages of the CL or the EL would they have been able to keep up their spending.
Yeah. You never know it might have sparked a revolution in the LOI.
*NAH!
pineapple stu
19/08/2016, 4:39 PM
They'd probably have lost in the next round and not made the group stages anyway - and so at best just matched Shels.
Granted, Kiev did beat Spartak 8-2 in the next round, and went on to reach the UEFA Cup semis, but I don't know if that means Drogheda would have won through. I think Kiev got a huge root up the hole at almost losing to a team managed by Paul Doolin and with Ibrahima Thiam up front.
paul_oshea
22/08/2016, 12:55 PM
How can I watch this in Engrrland?
I remember that game well, wasnt it the american buck that hit it over the bar from 6 yards, I actually wondered how it was possible to get that height over it, the trickle sticks out not as much for me because there was actually a man with an almost completely open goal and all he had to do was keep it low. Great game to watch, serious excitement but difficult. And what was around the time when Chicken were actually doing well in Europes main competition.
Philosophizer
22/08/2016, 1:35 PM
I remember that game well, wasnt it the american buck that hit it over the bar from 6 yards, I actually wondered how it was possible to get that height over it, the trickle sticks out not as much for me because there was actually a man with an almost completely open goal and all he had to do was keep it low. Great game to watch, serious excitement but difficult. And what was around the time when Chicken were actually doing well in Europes main competition.
His name was Adam Hughes - Australian i think. In fairness to him, the keeper should have caught the cross so he wouldn't have been expecting it to drop in front if him. It was instinct to just stick the leg out and somehow he screwed it over.
ger121
23/08/2016, 4:33 PM
What a difference less than a week makes. Very little build up to the match on here or in the media. To be fair Dundalk need a miracle to progress so can understand how low key the game is this week.
As usual, I expect Dundalk to be more effective away from home and think they'll give Legia a good game. Dundalk to score 1st to give Legia a scare before they equalise and play out for a draw knowing they are through.
jinxy lilywhite
23/08/2016, 4:35 PM
3 1 dundalk for me
nigel-harps1954
23/08/2016, 5:03 PM
Forgot the game was on tonight. Definitely a huge shift in attitude and expectation from the first game. Let's hope Dundalk can feed off that and go out and surprise anyone. This could be an historic night.
paul_oshea
23/08/2016, 5:08 PM
Anyway of seeing it over here without BT Sport 3?
Charlie Darwin
23/08/2016, 5:11 PM
Anyway of seeing it over here without BT Sport 3?
It's on TV3 as well.
It's a sellout in Legia, their first of the season, so unlikely they'll be taking it lightly.
TheBoss
23/08/2016, 5:16 PM
The only positive pre-match for me is that they have nothing to lose and history to gain. Hopefully the players are thinking along those lines. There was not a lot between the teams in the 1st leg, just that debatable first goal which caused Dundalk to be rattled for a bit but they composed well but in saying that they failed to be an attacking force against a team that was there for taking imo. To lose 2-0 was a really terrible result considering the way the game went perhaps lack a of European experience at this stage made the difference.
legendz
23/08/2016, 5:56 PM
Legia are capable of winning 2 or 3 to nil. Dundalk nearly turned around the deficit to Split a two years ago. I'm hopeful Dundalk will score and realistic that Legia will score.
If Dundalk are somehow 2-1 up with 10-15 minutes to go, you'll imagine there might be a golden chance. Drogheda didn't take their's in Kiev '08. Shamrock Rovers took their's in Belgrade '11. Best of luck Dundalk!
patrickccfc
23/08/2016, 6:09 PM
Best of luck to dundalk tonight. The tie is beyond them at this stage unfortunately but would be good if they made it interesting by going a goal up. Hard to see them not conceding
pateen
23/08/2016, 6:39 PM
Anyone have a live stream. Mobdro is kickig up
bennocelt
23/08/2016, 6:52 PM
Not a great stream, n have to avoid a few pop ups (n Jim Beglin!)
http://realstreamunited.tv/soccer/legia-warszawa-vs-dundalk-rsu30h8h6?l=2991794639
MeathDrog
23/08/2016, 6:58 PM
Who's the co-commentator on TV3?
bennocelt
23/08/2016, 6:59 PM
wow that was the worst corner i have ever seen
passinginterest
23/08/2016, 7:04 PM
What. A. Goal.
bennocelt
23/08/2016, 7:05 PM
oh my word
pineapple stu
23/08/2016, 7:06 PM
Bens! Cmon the college!
patrickccfc
23/08/2016, 7:06 PM
That was only going in one place once he struck it, right in the top corner. What a goal
refjohn
23/08/2016, 7:06 PM
Wow - what a goal and this makes it interesting :-)
DannyInvincible
23/08/2016, 7:08 PM
That was an absolute screamer. Comeback is on.
Great save there too from Rogers.
legendz
23/08/2016, 7:09 PM
Who's the co-commentator on TV3?
Keith Andrews.
What a goal! Game on! Super save by Rogers!
paul_oshea
23/08/2016, 7:38 PM
9 times out of 10 its wide or skied but that was some finish.
Theyre looking a bit lethargic but hopefully they can hold on for another 20 mins then who knows.
White Horse
23/08/2016, 7:40 PM
9 times out of 10 its wide or skied but that was some finish.
Not when it's Robbie Benson.
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