League of Ireland in Europe 2016

[paul_oshea]

The independent is really annoying, it keeps regurgitating and appending to other articles and making them look like new articles, I've read 4 or 5 incarniations of that title/piece since last night.

[BonnieShels]

The independent is really annoying, it keeps regurgitating and appending to other articles and making them look like new articles, I've read 4 or 5 incarniations of that title/piece since last night.

That's how they get ya. They're essentially another journalher42ballsjoe.ie these days.

[pineapple stu]

I was almost certain that that Bulgaria game was a friendly. Convinced that it was and yes, it was a friendly.
Oh, you're right - sorry.

So then terraces were allowed for friendlies.

[dundalkfc10]

Did last night really happen?

[nigel-harps1954]

Did last night really happen?

Did what happen? Good luck to Dundalk tonight against BATE.

[pineapple stu]

I'd say Dundalk fans wouldn't mind yesterday being Groundhog Day in fairness.

[pineapple stu]

Dave McMillan on the radio there about the next round -

"Yeah, wherever it is, we just like to play football on a good grass pitch"

Good man!

[shep]

That was incredible,a special night and one that I will never forget.If I died today I would die a happy man

[MeathDrog]

I hope the irony isn't lost on some people bemoaning the money that Dundalk will get after they just knocked out a team with so much more resources and money than them.

[paul_oshea]

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154313840238286&id=347657913285

Nice touch from O'Neill.hopefully he follows up on it.

[TonyD]

His replacement is a better player

I actually thought Dundalk impoved when McEleaney came on for Finn. Thought they were quite poor as a matter of fact for the first half hour. Thought Bate looked very comfortable up to then. The first goal changed everything and you could see Dundalk grow into the game. Horgan and McEleaney were superb and the whole second half performance was brilliant.

I posted here that it would be a long half hour for Dundalk after they got the second, but in fact they held out comfortably and were always a threat, which was proved with Bensons goal. Congrats to them. I agree it won't do much for Pats, unless the whole league can is in standard as a result and that's hard to see in the short term. Credit where it's due though, great result and performance.

[Real ale Madrid]

Ian Dempsey / Today FM had Stephen Kenny on this morning for an interview - audio of the goal after..... - the aul bandwagon don't be long cranking up! Great to hear mind you.

[brendy_éire]

Ian Dempsey / Today FM had Stephen Kenny on this morning for an interview - audio of the goal after..... - the aul bandwagon don't be long cranking up! Great to hear mind you.

"They [Dundalk] have been knocking on the door for years now", thought that comment showed the level of knowledge.
Still though, nice to get some publicity.

[White Horse]

"They [Dundalk] have been knocking on the door for years now", thought that comment showed the level of knowledge.
Still though, nice to get some publicity.

The Second Captain cnuts will be fawning over them next.

[legendz]

Shelbourne got to the final CL qualifying round in '04. Dundalk's achievement at the moment is the same as that.

Rightly or wrongly European results will influence people's perception of the league. One good season alone isn't enough. Needs to be at least every 2 to 3 years.

Dundalk and Cork performances are better than any marketing. They are creating positive headlines on the field of play. That's marketing without any gimmicks.

The expected positive spinoff for those clubs obviously is more support. I don't see any reason for clubs from Dublin, Galway, Derry or Limerick to be left behind. The positive spinoff I would like to see for other clubs is at least more support when Dundalk and Cork visit, possibly helping to build a connect for more people to support their local LoI team in the longterm.

[Philosophizer]

The Second Captain cnuts will be fawning over them next.

Much as i like Ken Early, he does seem to look at the LOI through a negative lense...

[MeathDrog]

Much as i like Ken Early, he does seem to look at the LOI through a negative lense...
I notice he hasn't even mentioned it or congratulated Dundalk on his twitter. Early is usually quite good but his lack of LOI knowledge is where he lets himself down.

[Burnsie]

Regarding McEleney, as brilliant he was last night as number ten, it should be noted that he was disastrous on the wing in Belarus. Hadn't a clue what he was at defensively, left Gannon hugely exposed, and the tie might have been done and dusted in that first 45 minutes had BATE made more of the chances they created down Dundalk's right.

O'Donnell was the real star for me though. He took some amount of physical punishment in there (BATE's number 77 must have committed six fouls without a card being produced). And although McMillan was hopeless before he scored, he was sensational in the second half.

[ForzaHoop]

Rovers got to this exact same stage a few years back but lost to FC Cpoenhagen and then beat Partizan Belgrade to get to Europa Group stage
Shamrock Rovers 0–3 Rubin Kazan
Tottenham 3–1 Shamrock Rovers
PAOK 2–1 Shamrock Rovers
Shamrock Rovers 1–3 PAOK
Rubin Kazan 4–1 Shamrock Rovers
Shamrock Rovers 0–4 Tottenham Hotspur

[disgruntled]

Great night for Dundalk & the League of Ireland.
If City can do the business tomorrow night it will have been an incredible week for the League.
Surely this will encourage other clubs to get their houses in order.

[wonder88]

Agree fully that O Donnell had a great game, I always noticed during his season at Galway how good his ball control was, and how he was able to use his body to shield the ball/win possession. Decent header of the ball also. How he was not wanted by the big clubs in the league that year was a surprise, maybe standard was much higher then.
Also fitness level of the Dundalk players is very good after a poor/slow enough start.
Thanks for the link to the stream, best I have ever used. We will see down here in Galway if their is any bounce from all this publicity on Friday. Leaving visiting fans aside can, a home crowd of 1,500 be achieved? What do Terryland regulars think?

[brendy_éire]

Surely this will encourage other clubs to get their houses in order.

Nah, we're grand, thanks.

[paykanti]

Some going by a few to try and draw negatives out of this result. It's probably the best possible thing to happen to the LOI.

Olympiakos don't seem up to much, would probably put Salzburg above them if anything but regardless, not a single team in amongst the possible candidates to really fear. Screw the Europa League :cool:

[legendz]

Rovers got to this exact same stage a few years back but lost to FC Cpoenhagen and then beat Partizan Belgrade to get to Europa Group stage
Shamrock Rovers 0–3 Rubin Kazan
Tottenham 3–1 Shamrock Rovers
PAOK 2–1 Shamrock Rovers
Shamrock Rovers 1–3 PAOK
Rubin Kazan 4–1 Shamrock Rovers
Shamrock Rovers 0–4 Tottenham Hotspur
Rovers didn't make the final CL qualifying round. I'd rank Shamrock Rovers '11 a step below Shelbourne '04 and Dundalk '16.

[ger121]

Something about Rovers campaign in 2011 that always stuck with me. The PAOK coach at the time was very complimentary about their performances and style of Football. He had expected them to play like a 'British' Team but instead they tried to pass the ball and play in a positive manner. In fairness to them they did and it probably cost them a draw somewhere in that Group (PAOK away) and a few hammerings,but hey, that's the way they wanted to play. Was an awful Group in fairness. Top seed in Pot 1, Top 2-3? seed in Pot 2 and PAOK were no mugs either, ask Spurs.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

I notice he hasn't even mentioned it or congratulated Dundalk on his twitter. Early is usually quite good but his lack of LOI knowledge is where he lets himself down.

Liked him in Silence of the Lambs though.

[orielabu]

Request for those in the know.
Please list the financial rewards already secured by Dundalk, round by round please.
Please list the extra (minimum), assuming departure at the CL 4QR stage and entry to EL Group stage.
Any EL win/draw bonuses in the group stage matches.

[sullanefc]

Much as i like Ken Early, he does seem to look at the LOI through a negative lense...
And then you have this from one of the other ones:

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ciarán-murphy-gaa-doesn-t-really-need-feed-of-pints-to-have-a-good-time-1.2704382

Used to listen to them on OTB but gone off them since.

[pineapple stu]

Request for those in the know.
Please list the financial rewards already secured by Dundalk, round by round please.
Please list the extra (minimum), assuming departure at the CL 4QR stage and entry to EL Group stage.
Any EL win/draw bonuses in the group stage matches.

Europa League prize money (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Europa_League#Prize_money)
Champions' League prize money (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Champions_League#Prize_money)

I'm sure you can do the maths yourself. :)

[nigel-harps1954]

Europa League prize money (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Europa_League#Prize_money)
Champions' League prize money (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Champions_League#Prize_money)

I'm sure you can do the maths yourself. :)

Prize money has increased this season too although full breakdown has yet to be released.

[ger121]

And then you have this from one of the other ones:

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ciarán-murphy-gaa-doesn-t-really-need-feed-of-pints-to-have-a-good-time-1.2704382

Used to listen to them on OTB but gone off them since.

Replied to a tweet last night about their coverage of the LOI. Said they would struggle to spell it, never mind have a discussion on it.

[Philosophizer]

And then you have this from one of the other ones:

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ciarán-murphy-gaa-doesn-t-really-need-feed-of-pints-to-have-a-good-time-1.2704382

Used to listen to them on OTB but gone off them since.

Jesus that was a vomit-inducing read. He actually tried to compare the Euros to a Mayo vs Galway match in Castlebar. What a self-righteous bellend!

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

https://twitter.com/paul_corry/status/760585209423290368

Would Dundalk take Paul Corry?

[White Horse]

https://twitter.com/paul_corry/status/760585209423290368

Would Dundalk take Paul Corry?

He is tailor made for Dundalk.

[Lim till i die]

I fail to see the need in going in-depth into why I think it's a great night for the League of Ireland. It's self explanatory.

For you though, I'll make an exception.

It's sh!te that Dundalk now have the financial clout to go on and dominate the league. If they spend wisely, they will be untouchable for years. That's where Shamrock Rovers screwed up their operation, and I'd expect Dundalk to be a little smarter about how they spend their money.

But:

- An improved Oriel Park is good for the league. €7 million would do a lot for Oriel Park. Anything that helps improve facilities for fans is good for the league.
- The media attention tonight alone will be good for the league. You can be damn sure there'll be a couple hundred extra on the gate in Galway on Friday night for the visit of Dundalk after that result. People are talking about the league of Ireland. That is a good thing.
- For years and years, we've had to listen to rubbish, constant tripe from people who call the league a 'pub league'. Maybe, just maybe, there's some vindication, some justification for supporting League of Ireland teams tonight. Hopefully Cork do the business tomorrow night too and provide a little bit more justification. Our teams can compete at the highest level. It's not as bad as people make out. Potentially a team in the Champions League and Europa League at the same time might just make a few people sit up and take note.
- The League of Ireland is a close-knit community. These gestures of support provide a sense of pride in each other. In no other league do you see anything like this. In turn, it relaxes tensions between fans. Not all the time, but most of the time. I can see nothing but benefit from simply showing a bit of support. Coming across like a jealous auld fart does nothing to help anyone.

So in summary:

A couple of quid for Galway Friday.

A new stand in Oriel Park.

And it's nice for your feelings.

Better effort but still nothing really tangible is it?? :good:

[WoodquayBoy]

Jesus that was a vomit-inducing read. He actually tried to compare the Euros to a Mayo vs Galway match in Castlebar. What a self-righteous bellend!
They are all self-righteous bellends. Their collective egos cost them their place on Newstalk in a row over money, and now they're reduced to muck like that in what has to be the worst paper for LOI coverage.

[Mr A]

Am not all that convinced it'll improve Galway's gate on Friday to be honest.

[Philosophizer]

I'm sure you can do the maths yourself. :)

I actually can't do the maths Stu...

Was lookin at the CL prize money on Wikipedia:



First Qualifying Round: €200,000
Second Qualifying Round: €300,000
Third Qualifying Round: €400,000
Play-offs Eliminated: €3,000,000


Does this mean that Dundalk are guaranteed a minimum of €5.4 mill (3mill + 2.4mill(as base fee for UL group stage)), or a minimum of €6.3 mill (200k + 300k + 400k +3mill + 2.4mill)??

[Martinho II]

I was one of the unfortunates that was working during the night and have no net on my phone so imagine my delight when I checked the papers today! Bate must have got a fright with the rain! Have it recorded so will see it at w.end when I get home. I am hopin Cork will do the business tmw night.. Also I am very proud of Stephen Kenny and Vinny Perth for all their hard work!

[orielabu]

I actually can't do the maths Stu...

Was lookin at the CL prize money on Wikipedia:



First Qualifying Round: €200,000
Second Qualifying Round: €300,000
Third Qualifying Round: €400,000
Play-offs Eliminated: €3,000,000


Does this mean that Dundalk are guaranteed a minimum of €5.4 mill (3mill + 2.4mill(as base fee for UL group stage)), or a minimum of €6.3 mill (200k + 300k + 400k +3mill + 2.4mill)??
I think your (Philosophizer) €6.3 plus .550 as League Champions…so €6.85.
No?

[TheBoss]

Dundalk's possible opponents as it stands:



Viktoria Plzen
Cze
44.585
36.695


Salzburg
Aut
42.520
36.045


Celtic
Sco
40.460
36.835


APOEL
Cyp
35.935
17.610


Legia Warsaw
Pol
28.000
21.425



Current matches
FT: Kobenhavn 3-0 Astra (4-1 agg)
FT: Hapoel Beer Sheva 1-0 Olympiakos (1-0 agg)
FT: Salzburg 2-0 Partizani (3-0 agg)
FT: Celtic 2-1 Astana (3-2 agg)
FT: Legia 0-0 Trencin (1-0 agg)

[paykanti]

Olympiakos, Legia, Salzburg and Celtic all struggling to do much, bring it on.

[shep]

Olympiacos heading out as it stands

[TheBoss]

Olympiacos heading out as it stands

This would be huge help to Dundalk it goes without saying. Still 10 mins left, they have been pretty average in the match to be honest.

[MeathDrog]

Olympiacos heading out as it stands
Would Hapoel Sheva be seeded? That would be a nice one to get if so.

[Yossarian]

Would Hapoel Sheva be seeded? That would be a nice one to get if so.

No, their seeding isn't much better than ours.

[TheBoss]

Olympiacos officially out. Maybe just maybe!

[DannyInvincible]

Astana have just equalised against Celtic. 2-2 on aggregate. Great finish from distance with the keeper well off his line after he'd come out to head the ball away. Only problem was it arrived straight to an Astana player.

Who would be next in line to take Celtic's place in the draw?

[paykanti]

Legia take Olympiakos' (assuming Legia don't chuck it away now) and Dinamo Zagreb take Celtic's. Much of a muchness in both cases.

[TheBoss]

Legia take Olympiakos' (assuming Legia don't chuck it away now) and Dinamo Zagreb take Celtic's. Much of a muchness in both cases.

Given the choice, I would rather face Celtic than Dinamo Zagreb.