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Carrigaline
23/01/2008, 2:41 PM
Carsley and Kilbane want a resolution to this soon: http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3073171,00.html
Can't really decide if the fact the players are being kept out of the loop is a good thing or a bad thing
The players are right to demand a resolution, however, it is right to keep them out of the loop.
Stuttgart88
23/01/2008, 2:49 PM
They're not exactly "demanding a resolution"!
Lee Carsley hopes the new Republic of Ireland boss will be named "sooner rather than later".
Kilbane says "But they (the panel) appear to be going down the right channels, speaking to the right people. So we will wait and see."
Wolfie
23/01/2008, 3:03 PM
Its dragged on so long now we may as well let it take its tortuous course.
jmurphyc
23/01/2008, 3:12 PM
Venables or Houllier will probably be dead by the time they're offered the job.
Block G Raptor
23/01/2008, 3:22 PM
Venables or Houllier will probably be dead by the time they're offered the job.
POTM!!
Bondvillain
23/01/2008, 3:25 PM
Venables or Houllier will probably be dead by the time they're offered the job.
...or just pretending to be....
Stuttgart88
23/01/2008, 3:27 PM
It looks like Burley is the new Scotland manager after they followed a similar process. Good choice in my opinion.
I think it's interesting to see what Scotland fans think of it. Here is the bbc chat anyway. The players they are citing as being their best aren't as good as ours in my opinion.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A31431629
OwlsFan
23/01/2008, 3:45 PM
It looks like Burley is the new Scotland manager after they followed a similar process. Good choice in my opinion.
I think it's interesting to see what Scotland fans think of it. Here is the bbc chat anyway. The players they are citing as being their best aren't as good as ours in my opinion.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A31431629
At least Hoddle is tipped to go to Southampton to replace Burley so that rules out NoelysGuitar's hot tip some weeks back - the washer lady in the Shelbourne hotel overheard a taxi man saying he'd given a lift to someone who'd once had sex with John Delaney who had screamed out in the middle of an orgasm "Hooooooooooooo-ddddd-llllleeee".
boovidge
23/01/2008, 3:46 PM
Venables or Houllier will probably be dead by the time they're offered the job.
I don't think that'd effect their managerial skills though!
Noelys Guitar
23/01/2008, 3:49 PM
At least Hoddle is tipped to go to Southampton to replace Burley so that rules out NoelysGuitar's hot tip some weeks back - the washer lady in the Shelbourne hotel overheard a taxi man saying he'd given a lift to someone who'd once had sex with John Delaney who had screamed out in the middle of an orgasm "Hooooooooooooo-ddddd-llllleeee".
I have the pics to prove it! Deeply unpleasant ones too so be forewarned.
NeilMcD
23/01/2008, 4:05 PM
THat could easily be Hooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuullllllllllllllllii iiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer
Stuttgart88
24/01/2008, 9:18 AM
From today's Examiner:
Venables last man standing as French dig in on Houllier
By Tony Leen, Sports Editor
TERRY VENABLES may become the last man standing in the protracted search for a new Republic of Ireland boss, with French football chiefs digging their heels in and insisting that Gerard Houllier remains in his post as the Federation’s technical director.
The Frenchman will make a final bid today to convince his national governing body to release him from his technical role so he can formally accept the FAI’s €1m a year job offer.
But if he is ruled out, then Venables appears certain to the appointed successor to Steve Staunton — by default.
Ex-Liverpool and Lyon boss Houllier has been the preferred candidate among the FAI’s three-man head-hunting committee since Reading manager Steve Coppell distanced himself from the post last week.
Several high profile football figures are working behind the scenes in a bid to get the FAI their man.
But if the French Federation stonewall the pleas, the only alternative to Venables is for the FAI to postpone a final decision on the manager until May when the Premier League season finishes — not an inconceivable scenario — in the hope that Coppell may change his mind and act on his stated desire to get into international management.
Liam Brady and Mick McCarthy remain options but Venables is now firmly in the box-seat.
Venables may have impressed the appointment group of Don Givens, Don Howe and Ray Houghton when they met him, but he has remained a fall-back option behind Houllier.
However the France Football Federation (FFF) president, Jean-Pierre Escalettes’s opposition to letting Houllier return to management remains as strong as ever and leaves Houllier with no choice but to stay put. Sources close to the Federation’s technical director, said it would be “footballing suicide” to turn his back on his own national federation after such a public declaration of intent by its president.
Givens was impressive in his address to the FAI Board of Management on Tuesday at Abbotstown and it has since emerged that he gave an undertaking to the meeting that the three-man committee would have a recommendation for them ahead of the February 6th friendly against Brazil.
However, all the indications are that the recommendation they had in mind was more au fait with cockerels than cockney. Houllier was so keen on the Irish job that he travelled to London for an interview with Messrs Givens, Howe and Houghton.
Last ditch moves were underway last night to ascertain if he could even operate a dual mandate as Irish manager and French technical director, but the French Federation are unlikely to buy that. Therefore it will be down to Houllier’s powers of persuasion when he meets his employers this morning.
Meanwhile, midfielder Lee Carsley hopes the FAI will resolve the managerial vacancy situation “sooner rather than later”.
He said: “Like the rest of the players, I’d like for it to be sorted sooner rather than later. We’ve an important game coming up in February, which is one of those building towards the next (World Cup qualifying) campaign.
“So it’s important we get someone in place as soon as we can. I only hear from my family in Ireland who is being linked because as players we’re out of the loop. But they want to know what is going on as soon as I do.”
Wigan winger Kevin Kilbane also confirmed the players are in the dark, adding: “We don’t know anything. We’re reading what everybody else is reading, with a new name seeming to be coming up every week. But they (the panel) appear to be going down the right channels, speaking to the right people.”
Newcastle’s Damien Duff and Blackburn midfielder Steven Reid are set for recalls after lengthy injury lay-offs when stand-in boss Don Givens announces his squad for the visit of the Samba Boys today.
Click here for irishexaminer.com stories before this date
Ozymandias
24/01/2008, 9:32 AM
From today's Examiner:
Venables last man standing as French dig in on Houllier
How is he the last man standing...surely hoddle dalglish etc are there
Hoddle has issues with his soul and others souls...dalglish has a passing relationship with the english language ...if this discounts them we are then left with TV the Soul of indiscretion....he is preparing his excuses already i betcha
Stuttgart88
24/01/2008, 9:36 AM
Hoddle is likely to take over Burley's job at Southampton.
I thought Dalglish declined to be interviewed.
Maybe Brady can step in if Houllier can't / won't take it.
I suspect the Sanhez & Davies interviews this week is really the panel & FAI buying a bit more time to try and finalise a deal on Houllier.
osarusan
24/01/2008, 9:39 AM
A journo on Radio 5 is suggesting that Venables turned down the job because the contract being offered was from first match to last match only. Not a calendar 2 year contract.
When would the "last match" be?
If we were to qualify for 2010, would he be in a position to negotiate a very nice contract between the last qualifier and the first game of the World Cup?
eekers
24/01/2008, 10:09 AM
http://www.setantasports.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2008/01/24/International-McAteer-on-Houllier/?facets/sport-space/football/great-britain-locale/
imparial jason mcateer think we should appoint venables because he got to hang round the england training camp at euro '96... and
he once gave me a ferocious rollicking in front of everyone.
Block G Raptor
24/01/2008, 10:12 AM
http://www.setantasports.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2008/01/24/International-McAteer-on-Houllier/?facets/sport-space/football/great-britain-locale/
imparial jason mcateer think we should appoint venables because he got to hang round the england training camp at euro '96... and
They didn't call him Trigger(from fools and horses, not the wonder horse) for no reason!!:D Gobshyte
Ozymandias
24/01/2008, 10:18 AM
wasn't there a story doing the rounds of when he and Razor ruddock met Jimmy White and Trigger shouted Oi Jimmy ONE HUNDRED ANDDDD EIGHTYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Block G Raptor
24/01/2008, 10:21 AM
wasn't there a story doing the rounds of when he and Razor ruddock met Jimmy White and Trigger shouted Oi Jimmy ONE HUNDRED ANDDDD EIGHTYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Yeah heard that alright, He's a great lad but has less brain cell's than one of these (http://images.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://www.apsnet.org/education/IllustratedGlossary/PhotosA-D/bacterium.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.apsnet.org/education/IllustratedGlossary/PhotosA-D/bacterium.htm&h=190&w=400&sz=22&hl=en&start=14&tbnid=9iW5YcrqkPQUWM:&tbnh=59&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsingle%2Bcell%2Borganism%26gbv%3D2%26 svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG)
NeilMcD
24/01/2008, 10:39 AM
Looks like a tampon.
Block G Raptor
24/01/2008, 10:40 AM
Looks like a tampon.
Who McAteer? ah now thats a bit harsh :D:D
placid casual
24/01/2008, 10:42 AM
in usa 94 mcateer was ordering pizza and someone asked him ,when it arrived how he would like it to be cut-into 4 or into 8 pieces.
McAteer said "4 cos i'm not that hungry".:eek:
the missing link,if you ask me.:o
gufct
24/01/2008, 10:47 AM
Money is the problem especially with Houllier who is on 1.5M and would cost a huge amount in compensation. Id say your looking at between 7/8M over 4 years including compensation to the french.
tetsujin1979
24/01/2008, 10:53 AM
Burley looks to be the new Scottish manager, would we be happy with someone along the same lines, or just happy that this version of water torture is over?
jmurphyc
24/01/2008, 10:59 AM
Burley looks to be the new Scottish manager, would we be happy with someone along the same lines, or just happy that this version of water torture is over?
Someone who has a similar record to Burley would be fine by me (if we don't get Houllier). I would have preferred someone with international experience, but at this stage beggars can't be choosers. :(
GavinZac
24/01/2008, 11:04 AM
Burley's appointment frees up Graeme Souness. Hurray.
jmurphyc
24/01/2008, 11:08 AM
Burley's appointment frees up Graeme Souness. Hurray.
Who hopefully takes the Southampton job.
geysir
24/01/2008, 11:09 AM
One thing is with Venables is you hear all about the 'feel good' effect, the players love him etc etc but they didnīt perform any better on the pitch.
He might be okay with our team where the player's peak of preparation is to be in a feel good frame of mind.
It's top of their list of managerial qualities.
Ozymandias
24/01/2008, 11:17 AM
in usa 94 mcateer was ordering pizza and someone asked him ,when it arrived how he would like it to be cut-into 4 or into 8 pieces.
McAteer said "4 cos i'm not that hungry".:eek:
the missing link,if you ask me.:o
he locked his keys into his car and a guy told him to get a coat hanger from his house so they could open the car door with it...he came back with a timber coat hangar
JimmyP
24/01/2008, 3:28 PM
The BBC are saying that as of Thursday morning, Lawrie Sanchez has had no official contact from the FAI and Billy Davies' interview isn't scheduled until early next month.
shakermaker1982
24/01/2008, 3:40 PM
The BBC are saying that as of Thursday morning, Lawrie Sanchez has had no official contact from the FAI and Billy Davies' interview isn't scheduled until early next month.
I've just read that article and I'm sure one of the Irish papers had stated as fact that Sanchez had been interviewed. This could drag on for another few weeks yet if interviews are due to take place in Feb.
Stuttgart88
24/01/2008, 3:47 PM
From the BBC on Tuesday:
It is understood that Givens and his recruitment colleagues Don Howe and Ray Houghton have still to hold interviews with a couple of candidates, reported to be former Northern Ireland manager Lawrie Sanchez and ex-Derby County boss Billy Davies.
I'm sure I read it in some Irish papers too.
Ozymandias
25/01/2008, 9:07 AM
givens said it on sksports news yesterday that they still a candidates to interview...didn't name names
Block G Raptor
25/01/2008, 9:46 AM
According to Todayfm News at 730 this morning announcement expected this weekend
tetsujin1979
25/01/2008, 10:06 AM
givens said it on sksports news yesterday that they still a candidates to interview...didn't name namesThat's not really surprising, the only name I've heard him mention has been Allardyce
Noelys Guitar
25/01/2008, 11:45 AM
Houllier must have confirmed to the 3 amigos that he will be staying at FFF. Out to 28/1 on Betfair with single bets 0f 300/400 a time going on El Tel.
NeilMcD
25/01/2008, 11:47 AM
Get your money on Houllier at that price.
Stuttgart88
25/01/2008, 11:49 AM
If someone at the FAI backs Houllier at that price they can afford to pay him the extra money.
It looks like we're at endgame now.
Noelys Guitar
25/01/2008, 11:49 AM
Get your money on Houllier at that price.
He is now 50/1 on Betfair! The funny thing is Venners is still 11/10 which suggests Houllier out but El Tel not over the line yet.
Block G Raptor
25/01/2008, 11:51 AM
He is now 50/1 on Betfair!
Looks like he's gone so, get ready to welcome El Tel so, Damn Damn Damn Damn Damn Damn
eirebhoy
25/01/2008, 11:55 AM
Get your money on Houllier at that price.
I just placed my first and only bet on the Ireland manager market on Houllier at 55/1. I assume there must be news that hasn't made it to this part of the world yet but feck it.
Stuttgart88
25/01/2008, 11:58 AM
Has anyone else made a move in?
Noelys Guitar
25/01/2008, 12:00 PM
I just placed my first and only bet on the Ireland manager market on Houllier at 55/1. I assume there must be news that hasn't made it to this part of the world yet but feck it.
Houllier is still 5/2 with PP, Chandler and Ladsbroke. Venables is 4/6 with Ladsbroke, 11/10 PP and 4/5 Chandler
soccerc
25/01/2008, 12:02 PM
Houllier is still 5/2 with PP, Chandler and Ladsbroke. Venables is 4/6 with Ladsbroke, 11/10 PP and 4/5 Chandler
All I can say is that something appears to be stirring within certain circles
Stuttgart88
25/01/2008, 12:02 PM
No xxxxing kidding Sherlock
Ozymandias
25/01/2008, 12:05 PM
what price hoddle at the moment
Hoddle rumoured to be taking the Southampton job
Ozymandias
25/01/2008, 12:08 PM
Hoddle rumoured to be taking the Southampton job
what happened Paul Ince thought he was favourite for that job....hoddle left the saints on bad terms didn't he
Noelys Guitar
25/01/2008, 12:37 PM
what happened Paul Ince thought he was favourite for that job....hoddle left the saints on bad terms didn't he
Yes...Ince is odds on for the job.
Morbo
25/01/2008, 12:43 PM
I put my only bet on El Tel at 10-1 on tuesday, at least the money will ease the pain if he gets it
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