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Stuttgart88
11/01/2008, 2:27 PM
The new manager search is manna for a board discussion.Absolutely, but not necessarily a topic for daily articles in the broadsheets (regrettably - give me frequent rumour & speculation rather than occasional fact any day :))
Dublin12
11/01/2008, 7:38 PM
New Ireland manager = Terry Vanables.
Noelys Guitar
11/01/2008, 9:02 PM
This is my Life On Mars bookies listing
Giles 3/1
Touhy 7/2
Mulligan 9/2 (Price moving out after allegation of bun throwing at FAI Official)
O'Farrell 5/1
eirebhoy
14/01/2008, 5:51 PM
Billy Davies is another name interviewed (or to be interviewed) according to tomorrow's Mirror.
zenokelly
14/01/2008, 6:12 PM
I really can't see anyone other than Venables getting it, or Brady if the FAI don't ratify him. I'd say Deschamps is all a rumour, would he really take the job??? Houllier seems to be out of the running with the FF pay-off and the possibility of the Newcastle job. No one else is really in it seemingly, but HOPEFULLY I'm not a psychic!!!
conlonn
14/01/2008, 7:39 PM
Deschamp would be great manager. Managed Juventus for a couple of years if not more. Managed them in European cup. Won world cup with France. WOuld be great to get him. However he is the third or fourth in the last week to have definitely got it.
When do John Dleaney nad the FAI decide. Is it at their meeting tomorrow week?
Venables would prob be the wrong choice but could not bring Ireland to a worse playing level than tney are currently at.
No matter who we get we should be beating Cyprus and the likes of Slovakia for that matter and we have to improve our away record and concession fo goals in away games late on
Noelys Guitar
14/01/2008, 7:40 PM
According to Newtalk Givens is going to be contacting Big Sam
geysir
14/01/2008, 9:53 PM
I think I preferred those couple weeks when Givens kept his mouth shut when I was under the illusion that if not common sense that at least there was some integrity present.
Noelys Guitar
14/01/2008, 10:42 PM
Does anyone know who leaked the Venables for manager story at the diner on Friday night? I know Houghton was there and I assume Givens was there. It is bizarre to have Givens say that nobody, not even the FAI know who is being interviewed. Errrr Hodgson, Jewell and Givens himself said Big Sam is being contacted.
eekers
14/01/2008, 10:48 PM
Does anyone know who leaked the Venables for manager story at the diner on Friday night?
i thought it was you noely!!!
"Venables confirmed as new ireland manager"
i assumed you were using the wireless in Eddie Rockets :D
Noelys Guitar
14/01/2008, 11:41 PM
houllier and Sanchez to be interviewed this week. Compo not a problem if Houllier wants the job (which I still doubt but you never know)
http://www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=sport-qqqm=sport-qqqa=sport-qqqid=52618-qqqx=1.asp
livehead1
15/01/2008, 8:26 AM
I'm glad to hear they seem to be stretching themselves to find the right man this time, i just hope its not another dissappointment when we discover who it is
livehead1
15/01/2008, 8:30 AM
In fact, scrap what I've just said, the FAI and their little panel appear to have been caught on the hop once again! Houllier to Newcastle...
Gerard Houllier has been given the go ahead to succeed Sam Allardyce as Newcastle manager.
The former Liverpool boss, who is currently the French Football Federation's technical director, has emerged as one of the frontrunners for the vacancy at St James' Park in recent days.
And his current employers have confirmed they will not deny him the opportunity to take the job if offered it.
FFF president Jean-Pierre Escalette told the Daily Express: "I would not stand in Gerard's way if there was something else he wanted to do. I am not surprised he gets offers.
"He turned one or two down to rejoin us and they were better financially than we could offer him."
Former Newcastle owner Sir John Hall has publicly stated Houllier would be his preferred choice to step in to the manager's hot seat at St James' Park.
He is now quoted at 6-1 to take the job by some bookmakers while favourite Kevin Keegan is now 2-1.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3047709,00.html
geysir
15/01/2008, 8:47 AM
All Gerard has to do is to name a few players and the Panel will be bowled over by his incredible and detailed knowledge of the Irish team. Then should he mention that he is aware of 2 players in the French 2nd div, that only he can unearth and deliver to the Irish squad, fans will be won over and the media will salivating at Gerards indepth knowledge of the Irish team and dedication to making it stronger.
tetsujin1979
15/01/2008, 9:31 AM
If Givens is in Sofia for the next day or so with the fixtures meeting, will it just be Howe and Houghton interviewing, or will they wait for him to return?
drummerboy
15/01/2008, 10:19 AM
Didn't Delaney say that the new manager could be unveiled before the end of this week. If so they more or less have their mind made up already
Noelys Guitar
15/01/2008, 10:31 AM
It all sounds like a smokescreen to appoint Venables. Why all of a sudden are they naming the candidates to be interviewed and going into detail about the money on offer. Houllier wants to manage in the Premiership so contact with him will be similiar to the Hodgson and Jewell chats. Not a hope in hell of Davies or Sanchez getting the job. It all sounds like spin "look we are interviewing ex premiership managers and having a "chat" with Houllier". Delaney has panicked after the weekend media bashing the process received and I expect to see a new manager by the end of next week.
tetsujin1979
15/01/2008, 10:49 AM
Coppell's name added to the mix, according to football365: http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3048033,00.html
geysir
15/01/2008, 10:54 AM
Coppel is not just added to the mix but first choice :)
How many first choices can the interview panel have in the same week ?
The punters have run out of cash by now.
Jerry The Saint
15/01/2008, 10:54 AM
Coppell's name added to the mix, according to football365: http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3048033,00.html
As the soundbite on Newstalk says "It's Mischievous!".
RTE website (which CONFIRMED Venables appointment when it got back from the boozer on Friday) is now saying the list of candidates is lengthening every day as we get closer to the decision. Not that you'd expect anything else from the FAI.
shakermaker1982
15/01/2008, 10:58 AM
we are getting a new 'candidate' every bloody day now. I'd love Coppell but cannot see him jumping ship halfway through the season.
colster
15/01/2008, 11:03 AM
we are getting a new 'candidate' every bloody day now. I'd love Coppell but cannot see him jumping ship halfway through the season.
Would he have to? Seasons ends April/May. The WC Qualifiers would start earliest in May/June.
Dr. Ogba
15/01/2008, 11:10 AM
Coppell has popped up as a "new" candidate at least 3 times now during this process. Really can't see it happening unless he agrees to take it part-time until the end of the season at which point he leaves Reading.
Really hope he gets it though, mainly because I managed to stick a fiver on him at 150-1 on Betfair months ago!!
dr_peepee
15/01/2008, 11:33 AM
I think he's gonna leave the reading job very soon.. Whether or not it's for the ireland job is another thing but he's made some very ominous comments about the futility of club management at a club like Reading... Something along the lines of if you loose, it's disheartening, back to the drawing board, work on problems. But even if you win, you're elated for all of ten minutes then reality kicks in and you're back to the drawing board, focusing on the next game... It ties in with with what I was saying in the Stephen Hunt thread earlier. I feel Coppel will pack in at Reading soon, and they're gonna go like Charlton post Curbishly...
He ticks allot of my criteria for International management in terms of experience. I really believe you should be at the end of your learning curve or there abouts when you take on an international job. You shouldn't be cutting your teeth at the expense of a nation...
tetsujin1979
15/01/2008, 11:42 AM
The other thing about Coppell, and a lot of the candidates to be honest, is that if they succeed, they will be in demand by Premiership teams when their managers are given the sack. I wonder if that would influence the 3 wise men? Unfortunately the only candidate you can't say about is Venables, who hasn't been linked with any of the Premiership jobs that have come available in some time.
soccerc
15/01/2008, 11:47 AM
Unfortunately the only candidate you can't say about is Venables, who hasn't been linked with any of the Premiership jobs that have come available in some time.
What about the link between Sir Bobby and Venners? (http://www.chatsoccer.eu/news/content/view/46/1/)
irishfan86
15/01/2008, 6:29 PM
The latest:
Houllier uninterested in Newcastle, Deschamps new favourite for Tyneside:
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3049995,00.html
I think he's gonna leave the reading job very soon.. Whether or not it's for the ireland job is another thing but he's made some very ominous comments about the futility of club management at a club like Reading... Something along the lines of if you loose, it's disheartening, back to the drawing board, work on problems. But even if you win, you're elated for all of ten minutes then reality kicks in and you're back to the drawing board, focusing on the next game... It ties in with with what I was saying in the Stephen Hunt thread earlier. I feel Coppel will pack in at Reading soon, and they're gonna go like Charlton post Curbishly...
He ticks allot of my criteria for International management in terms of experience. I really believe you should be at the end of your learning curve or there abouts when you take on an international job. You shouldn't be cutting your teeth at the expense of a nation...
If it isn't Houllier (and that's the way it's looking), I'd love to See Coppell get it.
As you said, he's made noises about wanting out of Club management for a couple of months now.
I don't think he would just walk out on Reading mid-season. However, as our first WC qualifier isn't until September, there would be no need to.
Assuming that agreement could be reached between the FAI and the Reading chairman, I don't see why he couldn't do the job part-time until the end of the EPL season. The season ends in May so he would have 3 - 4 months before our WC game against Georgia.
He would be seeing the majority of our players every week in the EPL anyway. While the warm up friendlies are important, they don't require someone full-time.
Despite all the speculation and nonsense of the last few weeks, I really think we'll end up back where we started - with Del Boy.
I hope not but I really think that we will. I suspect that's why names like Sanchez and Davies are being "leaked" - in the hope that fans will think Del Boy isn't so bad if he is the choice.
Kingdom
15/01/2008, 6:40 PM
The latest:
Houllier uninterested in Newcastle, Deschamps new favourite for Tyneside:
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3049995,00.html
That must be the 3rd or 4th time I've seen those quotes from the FFF President. I'm ignoring a lot now. Just wait for the name and if its a pleasant surprise be happy about it! :D
Noelys Guitar
16/01/2008, 11:03 AM
And we think we have managerial problems
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/7191614.stm
Block G Raptor
16/01/2008, 11:38 AM
Oh mother of devine Christ, Can you Imagine the red-top's if he got locked up? the FA will be praying very hard me thinks
dr_peepee
16/01/2008, 11:55 AM
I suspect that's why names like Sanchez and Davies are being "leaked" - in the hope that fans will think Del Boy isn't so bad if he is the choice.
Defo agreed there!!
Stuttgart88
16/01/2008, 12:05 PM
And we think we have managerial problems
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/7191614.stmAnd they got rid of Venables because?
I wonder if the Italians would have cast a blind eye on Capello if he was working for Italian football, but now he's working for England they're going to nail him! If I was in their shoes I'd wait until it'd cause most damage!
Over the post
16/01/2008, 4:19 PM
Keegan appointed at Newcastle, Houllier and Deschamps still free to take up the Ireland post.
Chris Coleman has just resigned from Real Sociedad, another possible candidate?
Still reckon El Tel is getting it though.
soccerc
16/01/2008, 4:30 PM
Keegan appointed at Newcastle, Houllier and Deschamps still free to take up the Ireland post.
Chris Coleman has just resigned from Real Sociedad, another possible candidate?
Still reckon El Tel is getting it though.
How about Steve Coppell? (http://www.chatsoccer.eu/news/content/view/54/1/)
as per www.sportinglife.com, Coleman has resigned from Real Sociedad.
A friend of mine met him on a stag night in Galway so at least he has an Irish connection ;)
Noelys Guitar
16/01/2008, 8:56 PM
Keegan appointed at Newcastle, Houllier and Deschamps still free to take up the Ireland post.
Chris Coleman has just resigned from Real Sociedad, another possible candidate?
Still reckon El Tel is getting it though.
I wonder why Delaney said Compensation would not be a problem in relation to a question about Houllier. The head of the FFA has already stated that they would not be seeking compensation if Houllier decided to leave for pastures new. The only 2 in the running who might require compo deals to be paid to their clubs are Coppell and McCarthy. It would be a huge surprise at this stage if Venables did not get the job but I still have a hunch that McCarthy might still be in the running.
Kingdom
16/01/2008, 8:58 PM
I wonder why Delaney said Compensation would not be a problem in relation to a question about Houllier. The head of the FFA has already stated that they would not be seeking compensation if Houllier decided to leave for pastures new. The only 2 in the running who might require compo deals to be paid to their clubs are Coppell and McCarthy. It would be a huge surprise at this stage if Venables did not get the job but I still have a hunch that McCarthy might still be in the running.
This may explain why Delaney met the Senior players in Cardiff. May not have been to suss out their opinions on managers in general, but whether the players would be positive to McCarthy returning.
Noelys Guitar
16/01/2008, 9:02 PM
This may explain why Delaney met the Senior players in Cardiff. May not have been to suss out their opinions on managers in general, but whether the players would be positive to McCarthy returning.
Givens comments suggest a divisive appointment and most people think that means Venables but it could also be McCarthy. Plus it is not inconceivable that the 3 amigos recommend Venables but the FAI majority refuse to ratify.
Givens comments yesterday "The recommendation to the FAI will be, I think though I won't say 100pc, will be appointed"
Irish_Praha
16/01/2008, 9:30 PM
Like most posters on here I'm sick of the wait and all the rumours. It's all been said before but there has been so many candidates that people have many different favourites for the job. No mater who is appointed a large section of the media/fans will be disappointed. At this stage I just want a manager that will play players in their right positions and play the best players available regardless of their age and is not afraid to turn the screw when we go a goal up, rather than trying to protect the lead for an hour. I can't help but think that the haphazard way that Stan went about handing caps out to young lads, that were just not ready, that he was fully convinced that he had two years to mess around without consequence. I know he didn't have much of a clue but it would be interesting to compare his team selections if he knew he really only had one campaign to impress.
geysir
16/01/2008, 9:42 PM
I wonder why Delaney said Compensation would not be a problem in relation to a question about Houllier. The head of the FFA has already stated that they would not be seeking compensation if Houllier decided to leave for pastures new.
I think you answered your own question re compensation not a problem for Houllier if the FFA were not going to demand any.
But I didn't read that the FFA would not be seeking compensation I read that they wouldn't stand in his way. I can guess his salary is not that high but it's topped off with a very good and lucrative expense account. His job also allows him nixers as top billing at prestigious seminars all around the world.
soccerc
16/01/2008, 9:42 PM
as per www.sportinglife.com (http://www.sportinglife.com), Coleman has resigned from Real Sociedad.
A friend of mine met him on a stag night in Galway so at least he has an Irish connection ;)
Some insight into Colemans resignation (http://www.chatsoccer.eu/news/content/view/58/1/)
geysir
16/01/2008, 9:52 PM
Souness is 8/13 for the Scottish job.
Today we lost Keegan tomorrow we may lose Souness.
From such setbacks we will grow stronger.
Qwerty
16/01/2008, 10:30 PM
This is so much fun I hope it goes on for another 12 weeks, it would be great if a few more managers got the sack so they could be linked with the Ireland job.
When the name is finally named 95% of us will be disappointed. Probably.
Stuttgart88
17/01/2008, 7:59 AM
Like most posters on here I'm sick of the wait and all the rumours. It's all been said before but there has been so many candidates that people have many different favourites for the job. No mater who is appointed a large section of the media/fans will be disappointed. At this stage I just want a manager that will play players in their right positions and play the best players available regardless of their age and is not afraid to turn the screw when we go a goal up, rather than trying to protect the lead for an hour. I can't help but think that the haphazard way that Stan went about handing caps out to young lads, that were just not ready, that he was fully convinced that he had two years to mess around without consequence. I know he didn't have much of a clue but it would be interesting to compare his team selections if he knew he really only had one campaign to impress.Well said.
macdermesser
17/01/2008, 10:01 AM
According to Sky News, O'Leary refused to do an interview. out to 22 now on betfair
Stuttgart88
17/01/2008, 10:05 AM
Fcuk him so, arrogant idiot.
Anyway, with Keegan taking over at Newcastle that means there's more time to interview Houllier & Deschamps before we appoint Venables.
ifk101
17/01/2008, 10:20 AM
O'Leary refused to do an interview.
Brilliant. :D
dr_peepee
17/01/2008, 10:30 AM
Anyway, with Keegan taking over at Newcastle that means there's more time to interview Houllier & Deschamps before we appoint Venables.
It's funny cos it's true...!!!
Drumcondra 69er
17/01/2008, 11:12 AM
According to Sky News, O'Leary refused to do an interview. out to 22 now on betfair
Probably knows the whole process is a charade and that Vegtables will be getting appointed as soon as this farce reaches its conclussion....
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