New Irish manager

[Schlooooomp]

Sadlier didn't sit on the fence with his comments. Staunton wouldn't get to manage 11 year olds. Knifed O'Leary.

[Torn-Ado]

I wonder who Sadlier spoke to!! Harte by any chance?! Did anyone read that article in the Sunday Indo? Some journo said that one of the Ireland squad "with experience outside the Premiership" thought Staunton was the worst manager he had ever played for. I bet Harte is delighted he spoke to that muppet.

Harte! Thats who it was!

It was wrecking my head trying to think of a player "with experience outside the Premiership" and the only one I could think of was Keane, which didn't add up.

[Noelys Guitar]

Berhard O'Byrne talked a lot of sense. Hand spoke his usual nonsense.

[Armando]

We have plenty of players with experience outside the Premiership....have none of you ever heard of the Championship and League One:D.

[NeilMcD]

Imagine Don Givens got the job, I see he is a 14/1. I

[NeilMcD]

I think I said something similar when I heard the news that Staunton got it. I remember thinking that day, how could they give a guy who has never manged at any level and is as articulate as an Uranutang with a sweet left foot and and love of baseball hats could get the job but he did.

[Noelys Guitar]

What will be Delaney's thinking right now? Got to get myself out of the spotlight. I reckon a quick appointment so that means someone out of work. Someone who will keep the media happy.

[geysir]

Harte! Thats who it was!

It was wrecking my head trying to think of a player "with experience outside the Premiership" and the only one I could think of was Keane, which didn't add up.
I don't think Harte was ever called up to the squad, not that the Journalist would register that minor detail.

[craig7042]

Souness has ruled himself out of the Bolton job. Odds are fairly short on him for irish job. Could very well be the man. O' Leary is very quiet. Would have expected him to be on every radio station and tv broadcast if he was interested.

I thought that too when Souness did that today.... has he been approached do you think? He's my first choice... Venables second...

[craig7042]

Why must the manager be an ex-top player? Why must he above all else be convincing with the media? These are two of the most ridiculous statments I've seen for a while though not as ridiculous as a recommendation of Souness for the job - one of the worst managers to try his hand in the Premiership. How he kept on picking up jobs was always a mystery to me.

My point was explained elsewhere.... Of course you dont need to be an ex-top player. Of course you dont need to be convincing with the media...

BUT...

So much of the criticism of Stan to me was based on exactly those two complaints.. How many times did people say to me - "He doesnt talk like a manager" "He's just so boring" "he doesnt inspire me" What a load of rubbish, but to me- thats what people seem to look at. Clearly the media didnt like his manner with them. And secondly Brian Kerr was definately prejudiced against in the media and by fans because he wasnt a top quality player in the past.

So what I'm saying is a bit tongue in cheek... I actually supported Stan throughout and I think people are hypocritical with the suggestions they are making. Very few of these names would survive the sort of abuse Stan got. Any weakness will be jumped on.... So - I think he's going to have to be brilliant in the media and a top player and will have to have exceptional management experience...

[brine3]

Co Adriaanse. Got Willem II Tilburg into the Champions League, which is quite an achievement. UEFA Cup semi-finals with AZ Alkmaar (dumped out on away goals in the semi, in the last minute of extra time). Did the double with Porto.

Known as a 'schoolmeester' (headmaster) type manager in Holland, exactly what the likes of Robbie Keane need.

He's currently 60 and managing a team out in Qatar. International management is something he hasn't done yet, this would be an ideal time for it in his career. You can be sure those Qatari football contracts have release clauses in them for when European jobs come a knocking...

[mypost]

Souness and Delaney?? :confused:

One of them is an obscure, stubborn, ignorant, dictatorial, pig-headed character. The other one comes from Co. Waterford.

So that's a no.

[Metrostars]

How long will it take the FAI to appoint a new manager?

I remember it took ages after Kerr. And I think it had implications when scheduling for these Euro qualifers took place.

[danonion]

The FAI have a big choice to make in the time frame of the appointment. If they appoint now, they can appoint a mediocre to good manager. If they wait until the draw for the WC qualifying campaign, they can scare off good candidates with a bad group, or bring in a currently unattainable manager with a good group. Any coach would take on the job if there is a good chance of managing in South Africa.

[KopKiller]

For the love of God, not Souness...

Paul Jewell is the best available man for the job, the new man doesnt have to be Irish, we have gone down that road before and look where its got us.

[Superhoops]

For the love of God, not Souness...

Paul Jewell is the best available man for the job, the new man doesnt have to be Irish, we have gone down that road before and look where its got us.

What international credientials has Paul Jewell got? Not even European club experience. The only thing he has going for him is that he is currently unemployed. I haven't seen any queue for his services since he opted out of English football.

[Scruttox]

Gotta be Roddy Collins...

Or Vicente Del Bosque / Lars Lagerback / Didier Deschamps?

[Roadend]

This outside consultant won't be Bryan Hamilton again by any chance.....

[Drumcondra 69er]

Berhard O'Byrne talked a lot of sense. Hand spoke his usual nonsense.

Totally. Hand and Stapleton were acutely embarrassing, I wqas cringing watching it.

See Hodgson has come way down the betting today, I'd be happy with that.....

[bigmac]

I don't think Harte was ever called up to the squad, not that the Journalist would register that minor detail.

I thought that as well - that's why I went with Keane in my head. My impression was that all the quotes/inside information came from one player, though I may be wrong. On mature reflection, there are planty of players of whom it could be said they have experience outside the Premier League - all those who have played at a lower level in England or those who played in Scotland or continental Europe (McGeady,Keane, O'Shea on loan to Antwerp etc..)

[OwlsFan]

Me, I'd like Big Ron. Did a great job at guess where and would be an ideal international manager. Larger than life, articulate, knows his football and a good communicator. Not sure what he's up to (no pun intended) at the moment.


I see Brady supported my candidate last night on tv and Giles even remembered he managed Sheffield Wednesday ;)

[Wolfie]

Big Ron and Bobby Robson.

Stick a white wooly hat on Charlie O'Leary and roll him down a hill in a bath and you'd have the cast of Last of the Summer Wine..

[Countyman]

Big Ron and Bobby Robson.

Stick a white wooly hat on Charlie O'Leary and roll him down a hill in a bath and you'd have the cast of Last of the Summer Wine..

brilliant.

[Schlooooomp]

Delaney claims (Newstalk interview) that the FAI is in excellent financial health and that this bodes well for the next appointment. So lets start ruling out the low hanging fruit for the managers job.

[Piltownpossy]

Whats the problem that some people on here have with 'yesterdays men'?

Lest anyone forgets its a simple game complicated by men.

The likes of Graham, Souness, Dalglish, Atkinson, Venables et al all have a wealth of experience managing at the highest levels , yet according to some here aren't fit to manage our group of players because the game has "moved on".

Yes - our players are so far ahead of the game at this stage only the youngest, most insightful tactition is up to the job

Are there more players per side nowadays?
Bigger/Smaller goals?
Do we still have to put the ball in the net?
Score more than the other team to win?
Has the offside rule changed THAT drastically?
How many permuatations of 11 players can you possibly have in a team formation?

A proven track record managing at a high level is whats required. That suggests an ability to harness collective talent and garner it into true team spirit whilst having a credible insight into the game of football. Man management and the ability to sort out some over massaged egos come as an added bonus.

No dount the likes of Drumcondra and all will pick this apart word by word and imprint Y-E-S-T-E-R-D-A-Y-S--M-E-N all over their reply.

Of all the 'yesterdays men' mentioned, I think the most likely outcome is Souness and I for one would be happy if that were to come to pass

[greendeiseboy]

In all honesty how many of the names being touted at the moment for the job are filling us with excitement - none

I hope to god O'Dreary dosent get it. I dont think he'll get the respect of the players. I dont think think he is a strong enough character to bring into line prima donnas like keane and ireland.

Any of the other candidates are as previously stated are yesterday's men and few of them are working in management at the moment.

I would love to see someone with the calibre of Klinsmann, Rehhagel or Beenhaker get the job

By the way did anyone notice how mcgeady just walked straight past staunton at the end of the cyprus match without shaking his hand as the others did....... stauntons even looked shocked at this

[Schlooooomp]

Piltown, yesterday's man or not, Graeme Souness's record outside of the 2 horse race that is Scotland is pretty poor.

[Drumcondra 69er]

Whats the problem that some people on here have with 'yesterdays men'?

Lest anyone forgets its a simple game complicated by men.

The likes of Graham, Souness, Dalglish, Atkinson, Venables et al all have a wealth of experience managing at the highest levels , yet according to some here aren't fit to manage our group of players because the game has "moved on".

Yes - our players are so far ahead of the game at this stage only the youngest, most insightful tactition is up to the job

Are there more players per side nowadays?
Bigger/Smaller goals?
Do we still have to put the ball in the net?
Score more than the other team to win?
Has the offside rule changed THAT drastically?
How many permuatations of 11 players can you possibly have in a team formation?

A proven track record managing at a high level is whats required. That suggests an ability to harness collective talent and garner it into true team spirit whilst having a credible insight into the game of football. Man management and the ability to sort out some over massaged egos come as an added bonus.

No dount the likes of Drumcondra and all will pick this apart word by word and imprint Y-E-S-T-E-R-D-A-Y-S--M-E-N all over their reply.

Of all the 'yesterdays men' mentioned, I think the most likely outcome is Souness and I for one would be happy if that were to come to pass

No, the basics of the game haven't changed obviously (although the mindset of the players has). The reason I don't want any of those people is because they've been awful in their most recent managerial positions. And most haven't managed in years. That's why they're Y-E-S-T-E-R-D-A-Y-S--M-E-N .

[Bluebeard]

I have this dreadful feeling we are going to be led to believe we are getting Roy Houghton, and end up with Ray Houghton

[greendeiseboy]

I have this dreadful feeling we are going to be led to believe we are getting Roy Houghton, and end up with Ray Houghton

????? do you mean hodgson........ a nightmare if either of them got it

[NeilMcD]

How would Roy Hodgson be a nightmare. I think he is looking to be the best appointment to be honest.

[shakermaker1982]

I have this dreadful feeling we are going to be led to believe we are getting Roy Houghton, and end up with Ray Houghton

is Roy Ray's dad? :D

[Armando]

????? do you mean hodgson........ a nightmare if either of them got it

Expand on your reasoning please.

[brine3]

Souness, Dalglish, Atkinson, Venables

These were never good managers to start with.

They are also from the days of pints-for-the-boys, something which needs to be stamped out of the Irish setup.

[Bluebeard]

????? do you mean hodgson........ a nightmare if either of them got it

Yes to the first part, no to the second. Hodgson has this this thing that most other anglophone managers do not have - an idea of what football is played like in Europe. And let us face it, we are playing European teams to get anywhere.

[Thebolg]

Did this really happen. What would you think of Brady.

Apparently he has put his nbame in the frame for the job. It's not something i would have expected. Another yesterdays man i suppose.

See the article below

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=489397&in_page_id=1771&ito=1490

[Rufus]

Quite a few of the people touted are notmanaging/coaching at a top level at present and some have not been at level for some time. Any ideas why that is so?

[Emmet]

Jose Mourinho ... a special job for the special one!!

[Dodge]

Yes to the first part, no to the second. Hodgson has this this thing that most other anglophone managers do not have - an idea of what football is played like in Europe. And let us face it, we are playing European teams to get anywhere.

Further endorsed if none of the British nations qualify for the European Championships...

[Noelys Guitar]

Finland are in a tougher group than ours and yet Hodgson has them within a whisker of qualifying.

[DeNiro]

I would take Brady in a shot. Reckon he'd be very good.

[Schlooooomp]

I would take Brady in a shot. Reckon he'd be very good.

I reckon that I'd be pretty good at the job, unfortunately I don't have anything to back up that statement either. While Brady might have learned from his time at Celtic, he is currently only an Arsenal youth team coach, hardly the qualifications required to succeed..

[citizenerased]

not a chance of finland qualifying they will end up finishing 4th or 5th..

[Ireland4ever]

I would take Brady in a shot. Reckon he'd be very good.

I wouldnt like Brady to get the job. As he said himself last night, he's not driven to get results, he's driven to produce players, which he's doing nicely at Arsenal. Brady as the u-21's manager, now that would be ideal. I just dont think he has the experience to do this job.

[DeNiro]

I'd have doubts about his motivation of players, but I think he'd be well organised. If, as he said, his strength is in producing players, then why isn't he in our underage set-up?

[Adrianovic]

I have a new favourite, having gone away and thought about it.

Otto Rehhagel, the Greece manager. He led them to Euro 2004, working with a limited bunch of players and getting the best out of them. Masterminded the downfall of Portugal (twice), France and the Czech Republic and produced possibly the biggest upset in international football history.

After Euro 2008, which Greece look like they will qualify for, I would say he has achieved everything he can there. Especially given that he was the first foreign 'Greek of the Year' in 2004. So our chances of luring him to our sticken footballing nation would be much improved.

He also has experience of club management, in Germany mostly, yet could provide a useful outside perspective.

I don't expect him to get the job, still, he's my choice nevertheless.

Ade

[Sligo Hornet]

I have a new favourite, having gone away and thought about it.

Otto Rehhagel, the Greece manager. He led them to Euro 2004, working with a limited bunch of players and getting the best out of them. Masterminded the downfall of Portugal (twice), France and the Czech Republic and produced possibly the biggest upset in international football history.

After Euro 2008, which Greece look like they will qualify for, I would say he has achieved everything he can there. Especially given that he was the first foreign 'Greek of the Year' in 2004. So our chances of luring him to our sticken footballing nation would be much improved.

He also has experience of club management, in Germany mostly, yet could provide a useful outside perspective.

I don't expect him to get the job, still, he's my choice nevertheless.

Ade

Good choice......at least he could knock up some healthy kebabs for Andy Reid, and ween him off the pies!;)

[NeilMcD]

I have a new favourite, having gone away and thought about it.

Otto Rehhagel, the Greece manager. He led them to Euro 2004, working with a limited bunch of players and getting the best out of them. Masterminded the downfall of Portugal (twice), France and the Czech Republic and produced possibly the biggest upset in international football history.

After Euro 2008, which Greece look like they will qualify for, I would say he has achieved everything he can there. Especially given that he was the first foreign 'Greek of the Year' in 2004. So our chances of luring him to our sticken footballing nation would be much improved.

He also has experience of club management, in Germany mostly, yet could provide a useful outside perspective.

I don't expect him to get the job, still, he's my choice nevertheless.

Ade

Can he speak English

[NeilMcD]

Good choice......at least he could knock up some healthy kebabs for Andy Reid, and ween him off the pies!;)

I dont care if Andy Reid is eating Kebabs and to be honest if he is, well then the rest of the team should be given Kebabs as he was top class against the Germans and the Czechs twice.

[citizenerased]

is renhegal still greece manager, humphries said he was retired now...like nay good german id say he would have a good grasp of English!!