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geysir
17/01/2008, 11:31 AM
All the rejections of his managerial talents have been getting to O´Leary and being rejected by his country would be too much for the poor man.
Noelys Guitar
17/01/2008, 11:40 AM
Some money going on Hoddle now second fav.
Block G Raptor
17/01/2008, 11:51 AM
I think I've cracked it, It's the worldclass management team they promised three years ago
Manager:Venables
Director of football: Gerrard Houllier
Assistant: Deschamps
Coaching Staff. Lawrie Sanchez, Billy Davies, Liam Brady, Kenny Dalghlish
Press Officer: John Giles
Tea Boy: Dave O'leary
Bus Driver: Sam Allardyce
Kit Man : Mick McCarthy
official scape goat : Roy Keane
absolutely brilliant, Were gonna win the world cup, were gonna win he world cup, oh wait none of the above mentioned people actually want the job. ah well guess we'll have to settle for Bernie Slaven after all
Bondvillain
17/01/2008, 1:10 PM
Start the Bernie Slaven thread quick, so someone can come on to say that it's rubbish, as their mate's sister in law's babysitter saw Garry Waddock having a slash outside Break for the Border with John Delaney on Saturday night.
mrmurphster
17/01/2008, 2:40 PM
Brady to be announced tomorrow as new manager...
Stuttgart88
17/01/2008, 2:41 PM
Tell us more...
Dr. Ogba
17/01/2008, 2:46 PM
Brady to be announced tomorrow as new manager...
well thats proof enough for me. down to the bookies I go.......
colster
17/01/2008, 2:48 PM
Could it be Venables and Brady?
Torn-Ado
17/01/2008, 2:49 PM
well thats proof enough for me. down to the bookies I go.......
I'm just going to re-mortgage the house but I'll follow you down after.
mrmurphster
17/01/2008, 3:00 PM
No just heard from a workmate who got word from his mate, who got word from his sister that that Brady will get it tomorrow.
Not as convuluted as some of the other stories, but worth a punt. not sure what odds he was b4 today, but i just got him at 3/1.
Bondvillain
17/01/2008, 3:05 PM
...... so someone can come on to say that it's rubbish, as their mate's sister in law's babysitter saw Garry Waddock having a slash outside Break for the Border with John Delaney on Saturday night.
No just heard from a workmate who got word from his mate, who got word from his sister that that Brady will get it tomorrow.
Not as convuluted as some of the other stories, but worth a punt. not sure what odds he was b4 today, but i just got him at 3/1.
Was he having a slash outside Break for the Border with John Delaney on saturday night? Cos if He was, I am SO in the wrong career!
Noelys Guitar
17/01/2008, 3:10 PM
Which Brady?
http://www.tv.com/the-brady-bunch/show/528/summary.html
geysir
17/01/2008, 3:13 PM
Venables will be the last man standing by the time of the January meeting.
The FAI will have pulled off another cute stroke by accident.
By then we will all be saying that his appointment doesn't look as bad it did in November.
Bondvillain
17/01/2008, 3:13 PM
I hope it's Marcia. She's just the Grooviest.
Noelys Guitar
17/01/2008, 3:30 PM
Venables will be the last man standing by the time of the January meeting.
The FAI will have pulled off another cute stroke by accident.
By then we will all be saying that his appointment doesn't look as bad it did in November.
Is the correct answer. Its like been stuck on a deserted island watching all the decent ships sailing past beyond the horizon. Eventually a bloke with a wooden leg, parrot perched on his shoulder and wearing an eye patch arrives in a dinghy.
galwayhoop
17/01/2008, 3:36 PM
Is the correct answer. Its like been stuck on a deserted island watching all the decent ships sailing past beyond the horizon. Eventually a bloke with a wooden leg, parrot perched on his shoulder and wearing an eye patch arrives in a dinghy.
but he didn't just arrive, he was anchored off the coast for weeks smiling at you, knowing full well that no matter how big your fire the bright shining ships in the distance were never going to come and save you!!! And as he pulls up to the shore you begin to make out the familiar look of the parrot. it's Andy Townsend!!
Block G Raptor
17/01/2008, 4:09 PM
it's Andy Townsend!!
ROFLMAO:D:D:D
Noelys Guitar
17/01/2008, 4:36 PM
Serious sums of money are been bet on Houllier on the British exchanges
irishfan86
17/01/2008, 4:51 PM
A bit off topic, but it will really be interesting to see how Keegan does with Newcastle.
If he turns them around and gets them into Europe and competing for Champions League football, what will that make all of us look like?
Apart from one or two people, we've all regarded him as a joke on here, myself included.
If you look at his history with Newcastle United he did wonders during his first stint, and football people seem to be shocked but pleasantly so with his appointment.
I just have my doubts sometimes about our football expertise- we're deadset against a La Liga winner FFS!
I know there's more to the equation than that, but the percentage of anti- Venables sentiment is a little surprising.
Again, not saying he's my first choice, but the vitriol filled posts I've read on here for the last couple of months surprised me a bit.
Kingdom
17/01/2008, 5:33 PM
A bit off topic, but it will really be interesting to see how Keegan does with Newcastle.
If he turns them around and gets them into Europe and competing for Champions League football, what will that make all of us look like?
Apart from one or two people, we've all regarded him as a joke on here, myself included.
If you look at his history with Newcastle United he did wonders during his first stint, and football people seem to be shocked but pleasantly so with his appointment.
I just have my doubts sometimes about our football expertise- we're deadset against a La Liga winner FFS!
I know there's more to the equation than that, but the percentage of anti- Venables sentiment is a little surprising.
Again, not saying he's my first choice, but the vitriol filled posts I've read on here for the last couple of months surprised me a bit.
Keegan will be good at newcastle as he will be given bucket loads of cash to mould the team into his own. He couldn't have done so with us, where he would have relied upon his tactical nous.
As for Venables, if he wasn't a slimey b*stard lookin fora quick buck people would be more in favour of him. Perhaps.
irishfan86
17/01/2008, 5:39 PM
Keegan will be good at newcastle as he will be given bucket loads of cash to mould the team into his own. He couldn't have done so with us, where he would have relied upon his tactical nous.
As for Venables, if he wasn't a slimey b*stard lookin fora quick buck people would be more in favour of him. Perhaps.
To be honest I think our team looks like a Keegan team, plenty of attacking players, yet we could end up with an Allardyce or a Sanchez....
I just wonder sometimes about how quick we are to write off certain candidates.
colster
17/01/2008, 6:10 PM
To be honest I think our team looks like a Keegan team, plenty of attacking players, yet we could end up with an Allardyce or a Sanchez....
I just wonder sometimes about how quick we are to write off certain candidates.
You're probably right there. We need a manager who is a good motivator and is not overly worried about tactics. Tactics is short hand for "worrying about the opposition" and messing around with formations and lineups that the last 2 managers have indulged in.
We need a simple attacking system that all the players buy into and consistent team selection and a manager with enough nous and courage to know when to change things when necessary. He needs to improve our setpieces.
Despite all the gloom and negativity we do have the basis of a decent side. We just need the right manager.
Keegan might have been capable of doing that. I have my doubts.
Charlton did it. He conveyed a simple message, motivated the players and changed things when needed.
Sanchez seemed to do this with the North. They didn't fear anyone, had a good team spirit and went out and got on with the job. As well as that they had a set of supporters who got right behind the team. I think that's important. Unfortunately, they missed out on qualification because of results against lesser teams e.g. Iceland.
I don't think Allardyce (one trick pony) or Houllier ( too conservative, but I could be wrong) would fit the bill.
Venables might do it but seem to remember him messing about with formations when he was with England.
Brady has no experience, but maybe he's learned from Wenger.
Coppell from everyone left is potentially the right man for the job.
Drumcondra 69er
17/01/2008, 6:51 PM
I just have my doubts sometimes about our football expertise- we're deadset against a La Liga winner FFS!
I know there's more to the equation than that, but the percentage of anti- Venables sentiment is a little surprising.
Again, not saying he's my first choice, but the vitriol filled posts I've read on here for the last couple of months surprised me a bit.
1984 ffs!!! 24 years ago, John Toshack was far more successful in Spain then Tel boy but no one wants him either and rightly so.
It's Venables recent record that's the issue, I wouldn't give a toss about his finances if he'd cut it at any of his last 6 (count 'em) jobs.
I'd kill for Coppell at this stage as there but it'll be Venables, O'Leary and Souness were able to see through the bull**** we're expected to swallow straight away. Hope to God I'm wrong.
Keen2win
17/01/2008, 6:51 PM
Will the FAI please hurry up.
Noelys Guitar
17/01/2008, 7:12 PM
1984 ffs!!! 24 years ago, John Toshack was far more successful in Spain then Tel boy but no one wants him either and rightly so.
It's Venables recent record that's the issue, I wouldn't give a toss about his finances if he'd cut it at any of his last 6 (count 'em) jobs.
I'd kill for Coppell at this stage as there but it'll be Venables, O'Leary and Souness were able to see through the bull**** we're expected to swallow straight away. Hope to God I'm wrong.
Newstalk (ontheball) contacted O'Leary today to get his version of events. One of the 3 amigo's called O'Leary before christmas and asked him did he want to be interviewed. O'Leary told the amigo (allegedly Givens) in colourful language thanks but no thanks. On the same show Giles stated he did not want Houllier as manager. Also in answer to a question Giles stated that Brady should be one of the leading candidates. Failed at Celtic but got on well with the players.
Metrostars
17/01/2008, 8:32 PM
Wake me up in about 6 months when this is all over. I think Roy was right. Maybe the FAI is procrastinating to save money.
Bondvillain
17/01/2008, 8:46 PM
Maybe the FAI is procrastinating to save money.
D'ya think?
Fr. Joe
17/01/2008, 8:56 PM
I've just backed Terry Venables at odds of 7/2 to get the job, odds were too good to turn down.
stojkovic
17/01/2008, 8:57 PM
Venables won the league with Barca, they're first in 11 years. BUT he is NOT fondly remembered at Camp Nou !
In fact winning La Liga had more to do with the brilliance of Schuster.
He is also remembered for signing Steve Archibald instead of Hugo Sanchez who went on to greater things in Madrid.
Noelys Guitar
17/01/2008, 9:07 PM
The betting exchanges can be easily manipulated. Place a large bet on one candidate. Then when the mob jumps on you lay against with a much higher stake than you originally bet. It happens a lot.
eirebhoy
17/01/2008, 9:53 PM
The betting exchanges can be easily manipulated. Place a large bet on one candidate. Then when the mob jumps on you lay against with a much higher stake than you originally bet. It happens a lot.
But how many favourites have we had now? I don't think something like that will result in €150k worth of bets in this market after what's gone before.
Qwerty
18/01/2008, 3:15 AM
Does anyone know who has definitely been interviewed?
The Indo reported Vanables & McCarthy!!??!! were interviewed.
Hodgson was approached in some manner.
Anyone else...
shakermaker1982
18/01/2008, 7:02 AM
Does anyone know who has definitely been interviewed?
The Indo reported Vanables & McCarthy!!??!! were interviewed.
Hodgson was approached in some manner.
Anyone else...
Sanchez. The British papers have picked up on Houllier - I think the tide is turning against El Tel.
Stuttgart88
18/01/2008, 8:35 AM
Today's Guardian rules out O'Leary & Coppell and says Houllier is in the frame.
Stuttgart88
18/01/2008, 8:37 AM
Hodgson was approached in some mannerHodgson was interviewed
passinginterest
18/01/2008, 8:40 AM
On Newstalk this morning they said a big gamble has gone on Houllier and he's now odds on with the bookies.
Block G Raptor
18/01/2008, 9:06 AM
On Newstalk this morning they said a big gamble has gone on Houllier and he's now odds on with the bookies.
Today Fm said Venables would be announced this weekend
Stuttgart88
18/01/2008, 9:08 AM
I just posted in another thread: London Independent says Houllier is close to agreeing terms!
passinginterest
18/01/2008, 9:10 AM
So we can safely say at this stage it's Roddy Collins then?
GavinZac
18/01/2008, 9:19 AM
So we can safely say at this stage it's Roddy Collins then?
Yes, but then he'd somehow, someway manage to cause us to be relegated from international football. Could be interesting, fighting for promotion with Cataluna, Pais Basque and The Vatican
pól-dcfc
18/01/2008, 9:28 AM
Yes, but then he'd somehow, someway manage to cause us to be relegated from international football. Could be interesting, fighting for promotion with Cataluna, Pais Basque and The Vatican
But Roddy's never been relegated...
GavinZac
18/01/2008, 9:32 AM
But Roddy's never been relegated...
He'd walk out on us immediately beforehand to take charge of Salthill hurling club.
lionelhutz
18/01/2008, 10:08 AM
I just posted in another thread: London Independent says Houllier is close to agreeing terms!
Do any other sections of the media concur with this story?
pól-dcfc
18/01/2008, 10:21 AM
Do any other sections of the media concur with this story?
Daily Mail had it too I think.
Block G Raptor
18/01/2008, 10:26 AM
Daily Mail had it too I think.
Deffo No truth in it so. Did it call him a french git or a frog too:rolleyes:
bennocelt
18/01/2008, 10:44 AM
Houllier managed France, is/was national director of football for France, one of the most technically proficient football nations, the very antithesis of the Premiership, and Lyon, perennial league winners in France and a force in the Champions League. Oh, and he also managed a big club in England, where all but one of our international squad plays.
Managed france badly, failed to qualify despite having two home games to Bulgari and Israel, and then blamed it all on Ginola
Lyon can win the league without any manager, and it was mostly Le Guen work that set the ball rolling there
and Liverpool, well 7 years into six year plan and all that
geysir
18/01/2008, 10:51 AM
Sanchez. The British papers have picked up on Houllier - I think the tide is turning against El Tel.
There is no doubt that the Foot.ie poll has singlehandedly swung the pendulum in favour of Houllier :)
Jerry The Saint
18/01/2008, 10:55 AM
Managed france badly, failed to qualify despite having two home games to Bulgari and Israel, and then blamed it all on Ginola
People are really baring a grudge over the qualification campaign from 15 years ago - is it possible he's learned something since then?
tetsujin1979
18/01/2008, 10:55 AM
I think the tide is turning against El Tel.
I think that happened as soon as his name was mentioned!
pól-dcfc
18/01/2008, 11:15 AM
Deffo No truth in it so. Did it call him a french git or a frog too:rolleyes:
"Cheese-eating, garlic smelling, red-wine drinking French bast*rd Gerarad Houllier" was how they described him I think
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