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Israeli season runs until the end of May. League splits after the regular reason with the top 6 playing each other twice again.
Philly
05/03/2024, 10:58 PM
Relieved to know I was incorrect there. Thanks for clarifying!
Razors left peg
05/03/2024, 11:53 PM
If Robbie was managing in Iceland rather than Israel would ye be more inclined to give him credit for the job hes done this season. Even if you want to dismiss the league, he has his team in knockout stages of europe against Olympiakos this Thursday too. Hes done incredibly well for a 1st season in management.
Razors left peg
05/03/2024, 11:55 PM
Have to say, whatever happens from here, the Irish football press pack - rarely the most on the ball it must be said - have been played for absolute fools throughout this. Carsley must have been ruled in and ruled out about three times each now, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's another spin round the houses still to come with him. We've been told that it's going to be Lennon, Coleman and Bilic at different points, possibly Clement too. They've also linked Poyet, Barry and Rowett with the job at various stages too. And now the FAI are basically telling them that they've got their man, and between them the journos still can't get a decent lead on who it actually is. Wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being literally none of the names they've thrown out so far.
Agree completely. I think only Gavin Cooney and Dan McDonnell come out with any credit. Both have been willing to say all along that they havent got a clue
If Robbie was managing in Iceland rather than Israel would ye be more inclined to give him credit for the job hes done this season. Even if you want to dismiss the league, he has his team in knockout stages of europe against Olympiakos this Thursday too. Hes done incredibly well for a 1st season in management.
Not the best example to use when the Icelandic league is ranked below the LOI and Faroe Islands league. Only ranked one place above the NI league.
Razors left peg
06/03/2024, 12:18 AM
Not the best example to use when the Icelandic league is ranked below the LOI and Faroe Islands league. Only ranked one place above the NI league.
I picked it coz it began with I more than anything else :)
I just don't think people want to give him credit because it's Israel, and I get that. We can all agree without getting into politics that what's going on there is beyond disgusting. I just think if Robbie was doing this well in any other league he'd be getting major plaudits
elatedscum
06/03/2024, 3:18 AM
Without getting too much into politics. He’s clearly done well from a footballing perspective, not enough to warrant getting the Ireland job this early but he’s done well. But it’s a long way from demonstrating he can do it at that level…
I said when he took the job that I didn’t think it was right to take a job there (and that was before October 7th). So I would be very against him taking over now.
I also think there’s a chance that the likes of paddy mccarthy etc are the back room team for the next manager but they’re starting now…
Razors left peg
06/03/2024, 4:20 AM
Without getting too much into politics. He’s clearly done well from a footballing perspective, not enough to warrant getting the Ireland job this early but he’s done well. But it’s a long way from demonstrating he can do it at that level…
I said when he took the job that I didn’t think it was right to take a job there (and that was before October 7th). So I would be very against him taking over now.
I also think there’s a chance that the likes of paddy mccarthy etc are the back room team for the next manager but they’re starting now…
I agree that the back room for these games are it going forward most likely, would make sense if everything is set up.
And for the most part I'd agree that it's probably too soon for Robbie but when we are talking up Anthony Barry, who has even less experience, Robbie should be a bigger part of the debate IMO.
In an ideal world Robbie wins the league this season and moves on to a different country.
John83
06/03/2024, 4:34 AM
If Robbie was managing in Iceland rather than Israel would ye be more inclined to give him credit for the job hes done this season. Even if you want to dismiss the league, he has his team in knockout stages of europe against Olympiakos this Thursday too. Hes done incredibly well for a 1st season in management.
It's the 16th ranked league in Europe. Not great, not terrible. I think I've been giving him exactly the right amount of credit.
Razors left peg
06/03/2024, 4:53 AM
It's the 16th ranked league in Europe. Not great, not terrible. I think I've been giving him exactly the right amount of credit.
Should he not get extra credit for getting his team to this stage of Europe? Finished ahead of a Belgian team in his group that would be regarded as a much stronger league? If he beats Olympiakos should he get more credit?
Personally I think his achievements are being slightly ignored because we don't like that he took the FAI money and he took a job in Israel.
We don't have too many managers doing well in world football, I just think it's a bit of a shame that Robbie is not being talked about more
Olé Olé
06/03/2024, 5:20 AM
Agree completely. I think only Gavin Cooney and Dan McDonnell come out with any credit. Both have been willing to say all along that they havent got a clue
Cooney retweeting the Sneyd piece in a way that looks like he is backing it: https://twitter.com/gcooney93/status/1765127342941471204?t=WjGrMfJmbD-vlPvBkVZouQ&s=19
Olé Olé
06/03/2024, 5:25 AM
Worst part of all this is that there are 3+ weeks of this.
Assuming Sneyd has a bang on source, "not expected to take" as a headline is hardly an emphatic rule out of Carsley. Does the article say who doesn't expect him to take it?
I'm sure there are plenty self-assured Englishmen in the FA who would be more than willing to share their opinion that they would never expect anyone sane to leave a paying job at the home of football to take over the Eire senior team.
This is going to run and run.
Razors left peg
06/03/2024, 5:34 AM
Worst part of all this is that there are 3+ weeks of this.
Assuming Sneyd has a bang on source, "not expected to take" as a headline is hardly an emphatic rule out of Carsley. Does the article say who doesn't expect him to take it?
I'm sure there are plenty self-assured Englishmen in the FA who would be more than willing to share their opinion that they would never expect anyone sane to leave a paying job at the home of football to take over the Eire senior team.
This is going to run and run.
I'm assuming Carsley will have a press conference or 2 in the run up to the game on the 22nd. I would hope he's asked directly if he's planning on staying or leaving. If he diverts questions instead of saying "I'm absolutely staying" then we should know.
Snapshot
06/03/2024, 5:37 AM
Worst part of all this is that there are 3+ weeks of this.
Assuming Sneyd has a bang on source, "not expected to take" as a headline is hardly an emphatic rule out of Carsley. Does the article say who doesn't expect him to take it?
I'm sure there are plenty self-assured Englishmen in the FA who would be more than willing to share their opinion that they would never expect anyone sane to leave a paying job at the home of football to take over the Eire senior team.
This is going to run and run.Could go down to the wire and deliver another massive shock, a la Big Jack.
John83
06/03/2024, 5:57 AM
Should he not get extra credit for getting his team to this stage of Europe? Finished ahead of a Belgian team in his group that would be regarded as a much stronger league? If he beats Olympiakos should he get more credit?
Personally I think his achievements are being slightly ignored because we don't like that he took the FAI money and he took a job in Israel.
We don't have too many managers doing well in world football, I just think it's a bit of a shame that Robbie is not being talked about more
It's a good result. It doesn't carry a huge amount of weight in isolation, but hopefully it's part of a bigger trend. It may speak to your point though that I hadn't heard about it until your second last post.
seanfhear
06/03/2024, 9:13 AM
Could go down to the wire and deliver another massive shock, a la Big Jack.
Big Sam it is so ! ! !
Snapshot
06/03/2024, 9:51 AM
Big Sam it is so ! ! !
Hopefully not, mo chara geal. On a tidy little junket, two FAI officials toured Britain in their search to replace Eoin Hand. Some big-name candidates were briefed. What could possibly go wrong? Well, Jack got the job.
seanfhear
06/03/2024, 10:00 AM
" Put Em Under Pressure ! "
Razors left peg
06/03/2024, 3:56 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2024/0306/1436365-kerr-does-not-expect-carsley-to-be-next-ireland-manager/
Kerr saying he doesnt expect it to be Carsley, but he "could be wrong".
Its beyond stupid at this point. Let it just f'ing end one way or another!
Diggs246
06/03/2024, 4:01 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2024/0306/1436365-kerr-does-not-expect-carsley-to-be-next-ireland-manager/
Kerr saying he doesnt expect it to be Carsley, but he "could be wrong".
Its beyond stupid at this point. Let it just f'ing end one way or another!
Our problem is we are relying on the FAI, who are unreliable
Razors left peg
06/03/2024, 4:05 PM
Whoever they have lined up better be good after all this
was keith andrews retained? I don't think so. slight slap in the face if not with whelan, josh and kerr coming in.
Razors left peg
06/03/2024, 5:24 PM
was keith andrews retained? I don't think so. slight slap in the face if not with whelan, josh and kerr coming in.
No, everyone in Kenny's backroom was released at same time. He's assistant at Sheffield Utd now
No, everyone in Kenny's backroom was released at same time. He's assistant at Sheffield Utd now
makes sense, he has plenty experience with losing games...
Whelan also works with the FAI already so assume his name was suggested by Canham also when talking about interim staff.
seanfhear
06/03/2024, 5:48 PM
Our problem is we are relying on the FAI, who are unreliableReliably un-reliable.
backstothewall
06/03/2024, 7:42 PM
I think it's Poyet.
The quotes from February tie in perfectly with an interim manager holding the fort for us until his commitment with Greece is over.
"The timing is not right. I am focused on the play-offs, and I am very happy in Greece. The truth is that my contract finishes on March 31st, regardless of the result of the play-off. That's the truth."
"People are getting upset because I am saying it. You want me to wait until the 1st of April to apply elsewhere? At the moment, I am fully focused."
"I had some calls in December; I cannot tell you the teams. I am focused on March; that's everything I can say."
"If on the 1st of April I don't have a job, like any person, I will start looking for a job. Then we will see what is available."
John O'Shea was also Poyet's captain at Sunderland. It makes a lot of sense that he would be someone he would look to have involved. If it is Poyet from April, it's entirely logical that O'Shea would be his assistant, and if he's in line to be his assistant it's entirely logical that he would be the interim manager. He could already be talking to Poyet behind the scenes about squad selection etc.
It could be a case of finding an arrow and drawing a bullseye round it, but the theory fits around at least some of the facts.
They won't make an announcement over Easter, but Everton have a match on the 2nd in Newcastle. Seamus Coleman could fly into Dublin on his day off on the 3rd if they want the captain there for an announcement. That would dominate TV and radio coverage on the 3rd, fill the newspapers on the 4th, and they could have him do the Late Late on the 5th. All in all that would be a good week of coverage for the FAI.
I'm keeping an eye out for a League of Ireland match in Dublin being moved back 24 hours to Saturday 6th for whoever it is to attend
Kerr going on national radio to gossip about the job isn't a good look for a new employee and could affect any long term role if one is a possibility.
There's been a lack of any info and the media seem to be guessing mostly and that can be attributed somewhat to Canham and Hill being outsiders. Maybe keeping most info between themselves and Packie. So not a good look for the new guy just in the door a week to go on the Ray D'Arcy show and gossip about it.
backstothewall
06/03/2024, 8:16 PM
Kerr going on national radio to gossip about the job isn't a good look for a new employee and could affect any long term role if one is a possibility.
There's been a lack of any info and the media seem to be guessing mostly and that can be attributed somewhat to Canham and Hill being outsiders. Maybe keeping most info between themselves and Packie. So not a good look for the new guy just in the door a week to go on the Ray D'Arcy show and gossip about it.
Or he could be there with their blessing preparing the ground for it to not be Carsley. If Carsley isn't the rabbit to be pulled out of the hat they will want to get the public used to that idea.
Calcio Jack
06/03/2024, 8:50 PM
Kerr going on national radio to gossip about the job isn't a good look for a new employee and could affect any long term role if one is a possibility.
There's been a lack of any info and the media seem to be guessing mostly and that can be attributed somewhat to Canham and Hill being outsiders. Maybe keeping most info between themselves and Packie. So not a good look for the new guy just in the door a week to go on the Ray D'Arcy show and gossip about it.
Sums Kerr up …. A spoofer who thinks he’s knows it all…. Can’t believe that he’s been allowed back to have anything to do with the senior team… a real retrograde step
Jolly Red Giant
06/03/2024, 8:53 PM
If Robbie was managing in Iceland rather than Israel would ye be more inclined to give him credit for the job hes done this season. Even if you want to dismiss the league, he has his team in knockout stages of europe against Olympiakos this Thursday too. Hes done incredibly well for a 1st season in management.
The team Keane is managing in Israel is the equivalent of managing Man City without the competition from Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea and Man U (or Celtic with Rangers in the third division).
I think it's Poyet.
The quotes from February tie in perfectly with an interim manager holding the fort for us until his commitment with Greece is over.
John O'Shea was also Poyet's captain at Sunderland. It makes a lot of sense that he would be someone he would look to have involved. If it is Poyet from April, it's entirely logical that O'Shea would be his assistant, and if he's in line to be his assistant it's entirely logical that he would be the interim manager. He could already be talking to Poyet behind the scenes about squad selection etc.
It could be a case of finding an arrow and drawing a bullseye round it, but the theory fits around at least some of the facts.
I'd wager a small bet on Poyet too to be honest. I'd briefly entertained the same thoughts about Poyet after thinking about Canham's quote some more and who possibly could have contractual obligations that expire in April.
As I said on here a few weeks ago "Welcome, Gus". :)
backstothewall
06/03/2024, 9:01 PM
I don't see Robbie Keane as a viable option while the situation in Gaza is as it is. It would be a **** show.
Razors left peg
06/03/2024, 9:03 PM
I'd wager a small bet on Poyet too to be honest. I'd briefly entertained the same thoughts about Poyet after thinking about Canham's quote some more and who possibly could have contractual obligations that expire in April.
As I said on here a few weeks ago "Welcome, Gus". :)
Up to today I didn't think Poyet was even remotely a possibility. I'm starting to wonder though
Strongbow10
06/03/2024, 10:17 PM
Our new manager has not been mentioned on this thread. Not once.
Wrong Uruguayan.
Razors left peg
06/03/2024, 10:40 PM
Want to enlighten us?
seanfhear
06/03/2024, 10:48 PM
Our new manager has not been mentioned on this thread. Not once.
Wrong Uruguayan.Is it, Don Juan Wrong-One ? !
seanfhear
06/03/2024, 10:52 PM
Our new manager has not been mentioned on this thread. Not once. <br>
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Wrong Uruguayan.Is it, Don Juan Wrong-One? ? !
samhaydenjr
07/03/2024, 2:02 AM
Our new manager has not been mentioned on this thread. Not once.
Wrong Uruguayan.
Diego Alonso? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Alonso
Diego Alonso? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Alonso
Doesn’t appear to be under any contractual obligations at the mo.
Just for laughs but doesn’t Diego Forlan have Irish roots? ;) Welcome, Diego.
Razors left peg
07/03/2024, 2:57 AM
What's Roy Keanes contract with Sky these days
ifk101
07/03/2024, 5:10 AM
Just for laughs but doesn’t Diego Forlan have Irish roots? ;) Welcome, Diego.
Pochettino? Out of contract by April? Comes from the most Oirish town of all - Murphy (not Uruguay I know but close enough to confuse the FAI).
weldoninhio
07/03/2024, 10:14 AM
Willy Sagnol latest to be linked with us.
Diggs246
07/03/2024, 10:21 AM
The standard of sports journalism is shocking
We are getting like the uk. Journalists are actually not allowed make things up and they are doing it willy nilly
tetsujin1979
07/03/2024, 10:23 AM
The link comes from a thread on ybig.ie, nowhere else. Even the posters in the thread say there's nothing in it
https://forum.ybig.ie/forum_posts.asp?TID=58940&PID=2571435&title=next-manager#2571435
Makes you wonder how journalists came up with some of the other names linked with the job
ifk101
07/03/2024, 11:13 AM
Neil Lennon - "The feedback was positive but they said they wanted to go with someone who had international experience."
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2024/0307/1436512-lennon-fai-want-boss-with-international-experience/
SkStu
07/03/2024, 12:25 PM
Pochettino? Out of contract by April? Comes from the most Oirish town of all - Murphy (not Uruguay I know but close enough to confuse the FAI).
and of course we all know Bielsa's Irish (even though he is Argentinian, he's coaching Uruguay so close enough to confuse the FAI) :)
Stuttgart88
07/03/2024, 12:31 PM
Willy Sagnol latest to be linked with us.Wasn't he mentioned here a few months ago?
seanfhear
07/03/2024, 5:04 PM
What's Roy Keanes contract with Sky these days
Ya never know with the FAI ~ ~ If Roy Keane batted his eyelids at them ~ ~ Yeah, I could see it happening ! !
Ya never know with the FAI ~ ~ If Roy Keane batted his eyelids at them ~ ~ Yeah, I could see it happening ! !
"I got Canham's mobile number and rang him. It went to his voicemail: 'Hi, it's Marco - whazzaaapppp!' Like the Budweiser ad. I never called him back. I thought: 'I can't be f****** working for that'."
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