2022 Season, Arrivals and Departures [Archive] - Page 11

TonyD

15/12/2021, 2:45 PM

So a little more insight to the SO'D contract saga - a new contract was agreed, not signed, but aspects of that new contract were initiated anyway eg change in wage payment 'structure'. Whole lot of shades of grey, if it were to go to sports arbitration the judgement would be along the lines of O'Donnell, maybe via Dundalk FC repaying the difference between 2 contracts if there was an increase in weekly wage. If it were to be trashed out in court it would more depend on the opinion of the judge on implied activation to the contract or not signed, silly to implement it. A sufficiently bruised ego could roll the dice. The length of time new terms were used will guide compensation if there is to be any - 6 weeks salary!?

Wondering where you�re seeing that info ?

Nesta99

15/12/2021, 3:00 PM

From the horses mouth - Twitter!

Dont have a digital copy to link but 'inferred' in local media with the interviews over the weekend on the appointment.

Longfordian

15/12/2021, 3:35 PM

Local reports in media indicating there will be news on signings at DFC before this weekend.

That would be nice to add to the current 3 players, 2 who are recently promoted youth players !!!!!!

Hopefully a few Pats players just to liven things up for the rest of us.

D24Saint

15/12/2021, 3:55 PM

Hopefully a few Pats players just to liven things up for the rest of us.

Down with this sort of thing.

Jack B

15/12/2021, 4:10 PM

Dundalk could have done with Barry Murphy in goal last season to be fair.

pineapple stu

15/12/2021, 5:56 PM

Jurkovskis has left Dundalk to return home to join Riga

Demesne Lad

15/12/2021, 6:27 PM

Jurkovskis has left Dundalk to return home to join Riga

:-( One of the more useful imports. Brian Gartland won't have much company at this rate.

D24Saint

15/12/2021, 7:50 PM

And I'd say any Pat's fan will be looking for a few more contract announcements for Christmas.

That would be a welcomed Christmas present alongside the official St Pats SOD voodoo doll. Here hoping.

Martinho II

15/12/2021, 8:20 PM

Interesting with the Johnny Kenny link to Celtic. Celtics head of youth development is Willie McStay ex Sligo Rovers player mgr and he was a teammate of Johnnys dad at Sligo Rovers. I think its a win win for Sligo Rovers imo!

2 Year Contract

15/12/2021, 9:16 PM

Conor Kane has signed for Shels from Drogheda. €20k compensation fee.

Evan Weir who was with UCD the last 2 seasons has gone to Drogs as replacement

placid casual

16/12/2021, 7:03 AM

Jonny Kenny is one of the brightest prospects in the league, so him going for �150k reflects quite poorly on the LOI, in my opinion.

boynemunich

16/12/2021, 7:45 AM

Conor Kane has signed for Shels from Drogheda. �20k compensation fee.

Evan Weir who was with UCD the last 2 seasons has gone to Drogs as replacement

Wow, where did you hear the 20k compensation fee ? Kane's a very good player and I was sick when I found out he left but if 20k was involved then it's a no brainer for the club. There's a huge disparity between the top 6/7 clubs budget's this season and with European places limited some clubs will have very little to show for it this time next year.

It's frustrating as a Drogheda fan that we won't be able to kick on from last season and will probably be considerably weaker next year but I'm happy as long as we avoid relegation for the next few years and be patient.

Jack B

16/12/2021, 9:03 AM

Seems to be some talk that Mark Doyle and Joe Redmond will be following Clancy to Pats. Would be quite happy with Doyle hut can't say I know much about Redmond at all

SeanDrog

16/12/2021, 9:09 AM

Seems to be some talk that Mark Doyle and Joe Redmond will be following Clancy to Pats. Would be quite happy with Doyle hut can't say I know much about Redmond at all

Damn I was hoping we could hold onto McRedmond - he is a brilliant centre back. Came in during our mid season poor run and shores up our defense immediately. I real hope we keep him.

boynemunich

16/12/2021, 9:18 AM

Seems to be some talk that Mark Doyle and Joe Redmond will be following Clancy to Pats. Would be quite happy with Doyle hut can't say I know much about Redmond at all

Redmond is a decent footballer, but I'm not sure he'd be a starter for Pat's . Must mean Barrett is definitely off to Dundalk if he is signing. Fairly mass exodus from Drogheda now I really hope they all get game time wherever they do end up. Kane is Shels 3rd left back now, not sure Redmond would start at Pats. I think Markey's previous experience with lack of game time at Pats is probably what led him to stay with us for next season.

Jd2793

16/12/2021, 9:58 AM

redmond had a few games with cork before covid hit, thought he was decent tbh.Not a bad signing for pats if it happens

Straightstory

16/12/2021, 9:59 AM

26 year old Jake Hyland retiring from football.

https://www.buzz.ie/sport/jake-hyland-happy-decision-step-25694029

SeanDrog

16/12/2021, 10:10 AM

Hugh Douglas confirmed for bray - with last seasons injuries I thought he�d bow out this off season. Great character best of luck to him at bray.

Jack B

16/12/2021, 10:21 AM

Redmond is a decent footballer, but I'm not sure he'd be a starter for Pat's . Must mean Barrett is definitely off to Dundalk if he is signing. Fairly mass exodus from Drogheda now I really hope they all get game time wherever they do end up. Kane is Shels 3rd left back now, not sure Redmond would start at Pats. I think Markey's previous experience with lack of game time at Pats is probably what led him to stay with us for next season.

I'd imagine you're correct on Barrett, even worse for us is that it seems nailed on Lee Desmond is off to the States so we're going to have some job getting in able replacements for those two. James Abankwah looks a serious talent but is still only a kid, so I'd imagine even if Redmond does happen there'll still be more work to be done in that area of the pitch (as well as the rest to be fair!).

Jd2793

16/12/2021, 10:27 AM

Desmond would be a huge loss, brilliant footballer.

nigel-harps1954

16/12/2021, 10:42 AM

Jonny Kenny is one of the brightest prospects in the league, so him going for �150k reflects quite poorly on the LOI, in my opinion.

Yeah, Sligo were smart tying him down on a long term deal, but if the rumour is true about a �150k release clause in it, they were absolutely mental.

pineapple stu

16/12/2021, 10:54 AM

In fairness, there's been a lot of flops from the LoI lately; it'll deflate prices.

Hopefully the success of Bazunu, Ferguson and Scales (off the top of my head) will start to help things here. And even Ferguson and Scales have a way to go yet to establish themselves as solid transfers.

But when regular top scorers are sinking without trace in the lower leagues of England, and then returning home on free transfers, then it's hard to blame clubs for being conservative in what they offer. And the LoI is rarely in a position to haggle too hard I guess.

(All that is release clauses aside of course)

joey B

16/12/2021, 10:55 AM

Robbie Benson signing back with Dundalk today apparently….

Longfordian

16/12/2021, 11:01 AM

Nah Nah Nah Nah

16/12/2021, 11:27 AM

Yeah, Sligo were smart tying him down on a long term deal, but if the rumour is true about a €150k release clause in it, they were absolutely mental.

Don’t know the ins and outs of it but I would imagine the only way the new long term deal was signed was if that clause was in it. Way below what he should be going for but I’m sure his agent (think it’s Gary Rogers) called the shots on that.

WeAreRovers

16/12/2021, 11:36 AM

Add-ons in any Kenny deal will be much more important to Sligo than the relatively low release clause number. Look at how the Bazunu add-ons have worked for Rovers, extras now much important than initial fee for LOI clubs even if the reported €150k feels very low.

joey B

16/12/2021, 11:52 AM

Rovers have signed a horse aswell ….

https://mobile.twitter.com/ShamrockRovers/status/1471419876355059718

boynemunich

16/12/2021, 12:12 PM

I'd imagine you're correct on Barrett, even worse for us is that it seems nailed on Lee Desmond is off to the States so we're going to have some job getting in able replacements for those two. James Abankwah looks a serious talent but is still only a kid, so I'd imagine even if Redmond does happen there'll still be more work to be done in that area of the pitch (as well as the rest to be fair!).

If it's a case of Desmond going too and with Clancy being manager I'd be surprised if ye don't end up with both Redmond and Dan O'Reilly as I can't think of many centre backs within the league that are still available.

Nesta99

16/12/2021, 12:15 PM

Don�t know the ins and outs of it but I would imagine the only way the new long term deal was signed was if that clause was in it. Way below what he should be going for but I�m sure his agent (think it�s Gary Rogers) called the shots on that.

Former Dundalk player influencing rivals player contracts...Conspiracy!!

pineapple stu

16/12/2021, 12:21 PM

Rovers have signed a horse aswell ….

https://mobile.twitter.com/ShamrockRovers/status/1471419876355059718
Karl Sheppard's not impressed...

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DCSIL

16/12/2021, 12:30 PM

Already turned into a Bohs - Rovers bitchfest 🤔

joey B

16/12/2021, 12:34 PM

Karl Sheppard's not impressed...

Rovers fans don’t seem to be impressed either…

joey B

16/12/2021, 12:37 PM

James Brown to Pats and Matty Smith to Derry City according to Paul Nealon on Twitter….

Jack B

16/12/2021, 12:42 PM

Smith would hurt more than any of the Dundalk-bound players </3 Can't blame him if he's getting offered a 3 year deal though.

WeAreRovers

16/12/2021, 12:53 PM

Rovers fans don’t seem to be impressed either…

Some Rovers fans on social media.

Not a fan of gambling sponsorships myself and suspect they'll be a thing of the past soon enough but objectively having Barry Geraghty and Henry de Bromhead promoting the club is a big deal. Anything that reaches beyond the LOI ghetto is a positive from a marketing perspective and if Rovers want regular 7k+ crowds it's a must.

Longfordian

16/12/2021, 12:59 PM

Aodh Dervin and Aaron O'Driscoll signing for Shels apparently. Provided Shels pay the compensation for Dervin. Good luck to both, Aodh in particular. Aaron was very good last season too so no surprise he's gotten himself a good move.

total hoofball

16/12/2021, 1:04 PM

Heard O'Driscoll was likely heading for Shels but as he's still under contract with Mansfield still things to be resolved. Dervin is out of contract with Longford but as he is under 23 there will be a development fee but wouldn't expect it to be massive

Longfordian

16/12/2021, 1:08 PM

I forget how the compensation is calculated but I would expect an offer similar to what Shels paid for Kane would see the deal done easily enough.

boynemunich

16/12/2021, 1:09 PM

Some Rovers fans on social media.

Not a fan of gambling sponsorships myself and suspect they'll be a thing of the past soon enough but objectively having Barry Geraghty and Henry de Bromhead promoting the club is a big deal. Anything that reaches beyond the LOI ghetto is a positive from a marketing perspective and if Rovers want regular 7k+ crowds it's a must.

I think it's possible to be big/successful with out potentially exploiting your vulnerable fans/members. Its a big no from me and I'd consider boycotting my club over it. One of the grimmest announcements I've seen in football.

Calcio Jack

16/12/2021, 1:33 PM

I think it's possible to be big/successful with out potentially exploiting your vulnerable fans/members. Its a big no from me and I'd consider boycotting my club over it. One of the grimmest announcements I've seen in football.

As a Rovers fan I completely agree - bad enough that we took the original sponsorship , but we had a choice as to accept/reject this�. Really poor decision as let�s face it only a matter of time before gambling sponsorship for sports is banned ; so shame we didn�t do the right thing �. Then again DD owns Betdaq and also controls the Rovers board , so no real surprise.

Nesta99

16/12/2021, 1:45 PM

I think it's possible to be big/successful with out potentially exploiting your vulnerable fans/members. Its a big no from me and I'd consider boycotting my club over it. One of the grimmest announcements I've seen in football.

As someone who wouldnt dream of taking a thread off topic, this is more Loi promotional stuff than signings unless the gag on signing a horse is relevant.

Hot potato topic, maybe sponsorship is different but not everyone who gambles is a gambling addict, like those who have a beer in a clubhouse are not all alcoholics - maybe there should be a no alcohol policy too but I dont think it would be too popular. Yes there is an ethical obligation to support peoples health and wellbeing but Im not convinced that driving industries like gambling/alcohol in to the shadows fixes a social problem - it may prevent younger people taking up an interest in future generations but online access in the home is potentially more an issue. Improved awareness of the potential issues and a whole lot more funding (government and donations) to support systems I think would be better than ignoring these industries and being outraged by their marketing. I am say this not either having an issue with gambling addiction or knowing someone directly who has. There's very often a whole lot more going on with than an inability to resist the lure before falling in to a concerning cycle.

pineapple stu

16/12/2021, 1:47 PM

maybe there should be a no alcohol policy too but I dont think it would be too popular.
There is one isn't there? Alcohol sponsorship has been banned for years. (Since Budweiser stopped being UCD's sponsors, which I think was around 2007)

Nesta99

16/12/2021, 1:58 PM

There is one isn't there? Alcohol sponsorship has been banned for years. (Since Budweiser stopped being UCD's sponsors, which I think was around 2007)

Yes, but UCD are well ahead of the curve with the restriction on alcoholic drink companies in sports sponsorship only happening legally last month. Sponsorship and provision of products at sporting events, gambling or drink, are not poles apart imo. So better strategies are needed to mitigate against associated social issues than concealing their existence.

John83

16/12/2021, 2:14 PM

As Nesta hints, the ban on alcohol sponsorship on UCD's campus was an internal one. I think the SU drove it, but university management co-operated or perhaps even encouraged it.

sbgawa

16/12/2021, 2:38 PM

Rovers have signed a horse aswell ….

https://mobile.twitter.com/ShamrockRovers/status/1471419876355059718

cringe factor is at record levels on the advert itself, amateur hour attempt at comedy but i have no problem with a bookie sponsoring the club tbh.

no drink sponsors , no cigerettes , next no bookies , then what?
Will the snowflakes be offended by McDonalds fast food sponsoring teams??

Bucket

16/12/2021, 2:41 PM

Where does it end with prohibiting sponsors though? Should the likes of etoro be banned too as stock and crypto investing is essentially gambling? Or food producers so as not to antagonise people with eating disorders? Or credit card companies for facilitating people to get into debt? There are so many problems that people can have, as a society I think we would be better off focusing on providing services to help these people rather than just outlaw the promotion of these products and pretend that they don't exist. Football itself is a horrible industry really. Boys getting abused in academies, young uneducated men thrown on the scrapheap with no supports, kit manufacturers and stadium developers using slave labour.

John83

16/12/2021, 2:41 PM

It's a good thing this didn't happen while Rovers were traipsing from stadium to stadium, or there'd have been some off-colour traveller jokes.

As it is, they need to reign in the marketing manager or whoever should have said neigh to all this.

joey B

16/12/2021, 2:50 PM

cringe factor is at record levels on the advert itself, amateur hour attempt at comedy but i have no problem with a bookie sponsoring the club tbh.

no drink sponsors , no cigerettes , next no bookies , then what?
Will the snowflakes be offended by McDonalds fast food sponsoring teams??

To be clear here I don’t have a massive problem with gambling promotion,I gamble myself at really low stakes for a bit of fun really,but I can understand why people will and do have a problem with it,the crap presentation of it was what I was sharing it for tbh,cringe indeed….

EatYerGreens

16/12/2021, 2:51 PM

Should the likes of etoro be banned too as stock and crypto investing is essentially gambling?

Except it's not though. There is a large amount of science to the stock market, and research involved, for those who take it seriously. And it's a model by which companies raise funds to expand, create jobs etc. They don't make their profits from their share listings - the reverse in fact, as the share listing generally reflects their actual and potential profits instead. But for gambling companies, the act of gambling itself is the source of profit.

Obviously there is a certain degree of chance and risk involved in the stock market, as there is with literally everything in life. But it is way more scientific than picking a horse or a number on a rouletter wheel.

If the stock market really was just the same as gambling, then everyone's pension funds would be getting spent on a black jack table instead.