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sadloserkid
04/12/2021, 5:36 PM
You can't believe that Nesta? There is NO sane reason he'd resign if he was out of contract.
patsdad
04/12/2021, 5:59 PM
Smoothing things out for St Pats owner and CEO because he doesnt want to burn bridges with those he has built up a rapport with? Maybe the contract included a 'be nice' clause!
That made me smile!
Just curious - if someone's contract had run down why do you think they'd feel it necessary to "resign"?
He could be resigning from the position, and by doing so not taking up the offer of the 2 year extension, for example in this scenario could it be that he was leaving his contract that was due to run down at the end of December or did it expire after cup final?
It will all boil down to the detail, if he signed an extension then yes Pats will be due compensation, if it was only verbal, that's going to be hard to see how anything will be due, but DFC will need to have assurances on either before they can formally announce him.
sbgawa
04/12/2021, 6:20 PM
Devoy signed a new improved contract a few weeks ago
Well i guess its for at least two years then.
Good business, if he continues to improve i cant see him seeing out the contract but it will be for a move across the water for a fee.
Nesta99
04/12/2021, 6:27 PM
You can't believe that Nesta? There is NO sane reason he'd resign if he was out of contract.
Its looking more and more like the issue is to do with some clause in his original contract and how that is activated. I do think that S'OD is acting on the advice of a lawyer which could include the need to state things clearly. Its not the first time there will have been differing interpretations on clauses. Do I think there was a 'be nice' clause, no of course not. Do I think its possible that the path of least resistance is being taken - yes. Swallowing some pride to stop a protracted legal process can do no harm if it helps clear the way to moving on. If it turns out that there was a error made by O'Donnell so be it. Its obviously not a cut and dry set of circumstances. It wouldnt be the way Dundalk do things, with the return of certain people, if they knew their target was still contracted to a club - the club would have been approached formally. Maybe it the easiest way to reconcile everything but there would be no surprises if an agent was the one pulling strings and gave assurances on the contract status etc.
SeanDrog
04/12/2021, 6:28 PM
Adam Foley confirmed for Drogs
D24Saint
04/12/2021, 6:28 PM
He could be resigning from the position, and by doing so not taking up the offer of the 2 year extension, for example in this scenario could it be that he was leaving his contract that was due to run down at the end of December or did it expire after cup final?
It will all boil down to the detail, if he signed an extension then yes Pats will be due compensation, if it was only verbal, that's going to be hard to see how anything will be due, but DFC will need to have assurances on either before they can formally announce him.
Maybe the mix up is with interpretation. If we had the option to automatically extend his contract and choose to notify him (as id say is normal procedure) then he could interpret it that he verbally agreed to the extension an extension we were legally within our rights to exercise without even consulting him. If anyone has experience in this type of thing then id love to hear their opinion on the matter. I've no clue what we would look for in compensation if we had to pay Drogheda 10K in an amicable negotiation. Is 40-50 in the ballpark I wonder.
joey B
04/12/2021, 6:49 PM
Adam Foley confirmed for Drogs
Should be a good addition if he can find his form of the early part of last season….
brendy_éire
04/12/2021, 6:57 PM
Adam Foley confirmed for Drogs
Great signing. Impressed me this season. A real presence on the pitch, which should work really well at a tight ground like in Drogheda.
ToberonaTornado
04/12/2021, 7:07 PM
#DunPats Crisis hits new level of LOLS :D
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFx3wV2X0AcwFpA?format=jpg&name=small
joey B
04/12/2021, 7:12 PM
#DunPats Crisis hits new level of LOLS :D
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFx3wV2X0AcwFpA?format=jpg&name=small
Jaysis :rolleyes:
D24Saint
04/12/2021, 8:33 PM
#DunPats Crisis hits new level of LOLS :D
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFx3wV2X0AcwFpA?format=jpg&name=small
Some have time to burn that’s gas . I think it’s a must that Pats v Dundalk is the first game of the season.
mcgonigle
04/12/2021, 9:19 PM
Imagine what they might have done if it had been Mastermind Matthews we had gone after
D24Saint
04/12/2021, 9:29 PM
Imagine what they might have done if it had been Mastermind Matthews we had gone after
Be lucky if Oriel survived, the pitch would be an improvement I’d imagine though.
Nesta99
05/12/2021, 5:10 AM
Ye'd think they would have hung it in the centre of the doorway, its its bugging the OCD in me:mad:
Does O’Donnell even have his badges yet?
sadloserkid
05/12/2021, 11:23 AM
Does O’Donnell even have his badges yet?
We're still trying to figure out if he has a contract, the badges can wait! :)
D24Saint
05/12/2021, 11:51 AM
Does O’Donnell even have his badges yet?
https://youtu.be/VqomZQMZQCQ
Neish
05/12/2021, 11:58 AM
Webster re-signs for Harps https://finnharps.ie/david-webster-re-signs-for-2022/
Delighted with this news
patsdad
05/12/2021, 11:59 AM
That was filmed in El Paso!
The answer to the original question is no, he hasn’t. That’s why we employ him (still) as a coach, not manager.
sbgawa
05/12/2021, 12:13 PM
Swap deal, Hooooban for SOD. ;)
Nesta99
05/12/2021, 12:44 PM
That was filmed in El Paso!
The answer to the original question is no, he hasn’t. That’s why we employ him (still) as a coach, not manager.
The narkiness is burrowing deep! Will be all the more fun...
Some have time to burn that’s gas . I think it’s a must that Pats v Dundalk is the first game of the season.
Seems a long way to come to put a flag up, unless whoever did it was en route to Sainsburys in Newry for a bit of early xmas shopping !
Swap deal, Hooooban for SOD. ;)
I'd say a few players will move between the clubs ok, but in the other direction...........
Nesta99
05/12/2021, 3:51 PM
Waterford are challenging the validity of clauses in St Pats players contracts and considering a judicial review, with a points deduction possible they could escape relegation, Pats staff and players will use relegation release clauses (exempt from review) so all sorted for Dundalk and then its just Bohs between Dundalk and Europe....as far as some of the rumours go this would be one of the more realistic ones!!!
nigel-harps1954
05/12/2021, 3:56 PM
Webster re-signs for Harps https://finnharps.ie/david-webster-re-signs-for-2022/
Delighted with this news
Great bit of business for Harps. He's been excellent two seasons in a row and will certainly have had offers from elsewhere.
We're certain to lose a few bodies but keeping the majority of last season's squad and building on it going into 2022 is important if we're to compete with a lot of sides spending a lot more than we are capable of.
Waterford are challenging the validity of clauses in St Pats players contracts and considering a judicial review, with a points deduction possible they could escape relegation, Pats staff and players will use relegation release clauses (exempt from review) so all sorted for Dundalk and then its just Bohs between Dundalk and Europe....as far as some of the rumours go this would be one of the more realistic ones!!!
What clauses would these be ? And what is the Judicial a review based on ? Or is this just happening in your head ?
joey B
05/12/2021, 4:10 PM
What clauses would these be ? And what is the Judicial a review based on ? Or is this just happening in your head ?
I think it’s a joke Tony!
pineapple stu
05/12/2021, 4:13 PM
I think it’s a joke Tony!
It's hard to tell with the LoI at times
D24Saint
05/12/2021, 4:14 PM
The bigger issue is that animal SOD gave no regard to Christmas. I just got a text from a friend in new jersey that got a laugh from receiving my St Pats SOD official Christmas card. The man is a monster.
joey B
05/12/2021, 4:15 PM
It's hard to tell with the LoI at times
Fair!
Nesta99
05/12/2021, 4:44 PM
I think it’s a joke Tony!
Well its made up, but what isnt funny is how almost anything can be said, believed, joins the rumour mill, and becomes 'factual' - all from a reliable source of course! If if it had been less (or even more) outrageous and Id stuck 'fact' at the end it would have undoubtedly ended up on someone's twitter.
But it is LoI and it is a mash up of real different LoI events in to one so maybe any confusion is par for the course and probably shouldnt over roll the eyes.
D24Saint
05/12/2021, 4:47 PM
Well its made up, but what isnt funny is how almost anything can be said, believed, joins the rumour mill, and becomes 'factual' - all from a reliable source of course! If if it had been less (or even more) outrageous and Id stuck 'fact' at the end it would have undoubtedly ended up on someone's twitter.
But it is LoI and it is a mash up of real different LoI events in to one so maybe any confusion is par for the course and probably shouldnt over roll the eyes.
The Sun newspaper has made millions from that.
Nesta99
05/12/2021, 4:54 PM
I should have started with 'a reliable source close to to the clubs' and it could have made tomorrows back page...
Calcio Jack
05/12/2021, 4:55 PM
The Sun newspaper has made millions from that.
And the likes of Trump, Boris the Healy Raes and SF to cite a few have been elected using the same approach
nigel-harps1954
05/12/2021, 5:03 PM
Ryan Connolly back at Harps for 2022.
https://finnharps.ie/ryan-connolly-signs-for-2022/
boynemunich
05/12/2021, 6:40 PM
Dylan Grimes to Drogheda. Very happy with that. Stood out for Longford last season. Bring Dervin along with you and a few resignings and we should have a decent chance of staying up. All we can really ask for as looking like 7 of 10 teams going full time next season.
Longfordian
05/12/2021, 8:09 PM
Good luck to him, good player. In other news, Gary Cronin confirmed as Town manager. A more realistic appointment than Vinny Perth ever was anyway. He knows the club well anyway from all his years as a coach.
sbgawa
05/12/2021, 8:17 PM
He will also have access to a lot of players cabo and bray squad together is about 55 players and all have to be mashed into 1 squad.
SeanDrog
05/12/2021, 8:36 PM
Dylan Grimes signed for Drogs from Longford
total hoofball
05/12/2021, 8:44 PM
Good luck to him, good player. In other news, Gary Cronin confirmed as Town manager. A more realistic appointment than Vinny Perth ever was anyway. He knows the club well anyway from all his years as a coach.
I thought after the slight fanfare of Longford publicly seeking open applications for the job that someone different who's not an ex-player would have got the role. Three attempts at promotion with Bray with good squads without any promotion not sure what upgrade this is from Daire Doyle
Jd2793
05/12/2021, 8:56 PM
longford going nowhere under cronin. terrible appointment
Longfordian
05/12/2021, 9:03 PM
I thought after the slight fanfare of Longford publicly seeking open applications for the job that someone different who's not an ex-player would have got the role. Three attempts at promotion with Bray with good squads without any promotion not sure what upgrade this is from Daire Doyle
I don't disagree, not too excited about it either. Can't help but think he wasn't who they were waiting for these last few weeks. Then again I expect there's not going to be a lot of money available for a budget so there probably wasn't a huge demand for the job.
Jd2793
06/12/2021, 10:08 AM
will fitz gone from Derry. Back to Waterford?
joey B
06/12/2021, 10:18 AM
Mark Coyle signed for Shels from Harps…
nigel-harps1954
06/12/2021, 11:10 AM
Mark Coyle signed for Shels from Harps…
Massive blow for us. Maybe he'll actually get the credit he deserves playing for one of the Dublin teams now though.
Yossarian
06/12/2021, 11:26 AM
Keith Ward signing for Dundalk according to this article.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/keith-ward-leaves-bohs-for-dundalk-while-damien-duff-captures-harps-mark-coyle-for-shels-41122526.html
PartySaint
06/12/2021, 12:26 PM
I've always been a big fan of Keith Ward....well, since Last week anyway :-)
2 Year Contract
06/12/2021, 12:31 PM
Chris Forrester has signed a new long term contract with pats
joey B
06/12/2021, 12:40 PM
Keith Ward signing for Dundalk according to this article.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/keith-ward-leaves-bohs-for-dundalk-while-damien-duff-captures-harps-mark-coyle-for-shels-41122526.html
Was Ward going to Pats if SOD stayed?
Good for Pats getting Forrester tied down,one of the best in the league…
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