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Horse24

03/02/2013, 9:23 PM

Less than two hours after the final whistle and we should sack the management and all the players!! Do me a favour! Find a Cork striker better than John Cochran! There is a reason why senior clubs are queuing at his door.

Any manager who wins something in their first season is lucky - In Oscar Traynor your season is even less! Start of a road! Saw the lads Pre-match today and I'm quite happy to have those men carry my name.

A joke to dream of winning it - using that logic we shouldn't enter at all!!

Us posters here won't feel half the hurt of the dressing room. The effort put in by players and staff should be commended not slated. Review comes later. 3 years minimum for any team/club plan.

Blackstone beat Leeds 3-1. We weren't great - pitch was in top nick.

1fortheTeam

03/02/2013, 9:23 PM

Well done?.nothing against Clare football but whats the point in the so called top aul players even thinking they've a hope of winning the tournament when they get mangled at home v the mighty Clare?.i wouldn't be commending their shambolic effort and as for the so called league champs top players?.shows how bad last years league was ladscork football will pick up all eyes to killumney and coacford and pearse now for the 3 way tussle .

Chiefscout

03/02/2013, 9:27 PM

As my post says I missed todays game so I can't comment on today only what I've witnessed and I'll stand over my post
I stand by what I said.the girls on the bottom pitch should have been playing Clare not the 11 that were put out

1fortheTeam

03/02/2013, 9:33 PM

I stand by what I said.the girls on the bottom pitch should have been playing Clare not the 11 that were put outooouch thats a hurtful one chief they did there best so hands up better team won.horse is close to the feelings of things time and hard work went in and came up short i went to all the games i feel for the aul lads .10 men in 2nd half work hard and went for it .

Chiefscout

03/02/2013, 9:40 PM

ooouch thats a hurtful one chief they did there best so hands up better team won.horse is close to the feelings of things time and hard work went in and came up short i went to all the games i feel for the aul lads .10 men in 2nd half work hard and went for it .
Lads ye are missing the bigger point.bad state when Clare are a better standard.should be ashamed the aul players in my opinion and the manager should get the boot now

oldlegs

03/02/2013, 9:42 PM

Pearse big game saturday will you post venue when you have it Tricksey thanks

Chiefscout

03/02/2013, 9:47 PM

How can u point the finger at the ptah?? Were cork not he home team and decided to play on the astro?? Secondly 4-1 to Clare? Really? After all the talk on here all year that's a disgrace!what teams in Clare go far in national cups!
maybe now people will realise that losing top clubs like leesise Wilton kinsale is a problem and weakens the league.another one or two will go this year plus more importantly the good players so somone needs to address it.....to think people were writin on here cork would win by three or four.....embarrassin
Are you me in disguise red.ha..we seem only 2 that can see this for what it is

1fortheTeam

03/02/2013, 9:52 PM

How can u point the finger at the ptah?? Were cork not he home team and decided to play on the astro?? Secondly 4-1 to Clare? Really? After all the talk on here all year that's a disgrace!what teams in Clare go far in national cups!
maybe now people will realise that losing top clubs like leesise Wilton kinsale is a problem and weakens the league.another one or two will go this year plus more importantly the good players so somone needs to address it.....to think people were writin on here cork would win by three or four.....embarrassinand i thought i was bad... the clare boys were good players they look well organized good fitness and balance and work hard all over and leeside did lose to the aul team bud thats not a dig at gaffer.

1fortheTeam

03/02/2013, 9:58 PM

Horse surely darran lynch is better striker than john corcoran i cap with ireland would prove that im sure a couple strikers in the aul would disagree with you..he was very quiet again today when things dont work out for him he starts to argue with people and disrups the flow off things..chiefscout i agree with you the cork aul should be beaten clare would the eleven that started today how many would of started in the cork aul team that won it couple years ago aorry lads but i would struggle to say 2 babsy and lynchtry living with him lol what a moan but sure he trys hard thats all that counts and sure your opinion is much thought of .

Chiefscout

03/02/2013, 10:02 PM

try living with him lol what a moan but sure he trys hard thats all that counts and sure your opinion is much thought of .
Aul lucky to have lynch and jc,unfortunately they've a lot of the squad who aren't up to it

thebooboys

03/02/2013, 10:14 PM

and i thought i was bad... the clare boys were good players they look well organized good fitness and balance and work hard all over and leeside did lose to the aul team bud thats not a dig at gaffer.

Don't know how to respond to that one. Says it all about some of the recent commentary on the AUL forum.....!??

1fortheTeam

03/02/2013, 10:14 PM

sorry bud and your right but i think give a year or 2 more and the 3 that left void can be filled by pearse killumney and coachford and others will come forward to i think .lots of good players in aul and we have to keep them time will tell.

1fortheTeam

03/02/2013, 10:16 PM

Don't know how to respond to that one. Says it all about some of the recent commentary on the AUL forum.....!??jez were gone world wide now its boo from oz hows things.

bullet

03/02/2013, 11:17 PM

schoolboygodno9

03/02/2013, 11:54 PM

What stage in the competition was this. With the players from Wilton,Leeside and Kinsale gone to the msl very hard for the aul to win this competition.Could hav done with a fit booboys in centre half today. ;)

If they were in the league they might have won this game but the comp i wouldnt think so . Alot of the counties have that counties premier footballers playing where as corks best players ply their trade in the msl premier or first division

oldlegs

04/02/2013, 12:15 AM

1fortheTeam

04/02/2013, 1:15 AM

Just a note how many Leeside players where on aul team last year ? How many Kinsale players on aul team last year ? How many Wilton players ?? There was no leeside or kinsale players as far as I remember there was 4 wilton players as I remember . Daly Blake Healy and the keeper won't even try to spell his sir name . That's not a lot is it ??? Also can anyone tell me where this 3 teams finished last year ??? Don't get me wrong I have great time and respect for the 3 clubs above but stop the stupid talk that they would have supplied the aul squad with better players that we had today .good points and how did clare do in the last ot .

the owl

04/02/2013, 8:46 AM

I dont think we should be asking "what if the Leeside, Wilton, Kinsale players were available ", because as one poster said how many players are we talking about and more to the point, they dont play AUL anymore so that point is irrelevant. At the end of the day the Clare side were too cute for the AUL side. They defended well, kept it simple and used the AULs defence as a way of attack. The warning signs were there for all to see. 4 or 5 offside decisions went our way in the first half but as we all know, all you need is one chance, or in Clares case 3 ! They scored from 2 and could have had 3. Aul defended too high and got caught out badly in each half. Did we adjust it, no. it could have been worse than 4 in my opinion. thats not to say the AUL didnt have their chances but on the day, although the AUL played well in patches, in particular, Joyce, they came up short. At least 2 guys in my opinion should have been hauled off at half time and another should got more involved with the game rather than the sideline.

thebooboys

04/02/2013, 9:01 AM

0030

04/02/2013, 9:13 AM

Your knowledge of Clare Soccer is obviously a little shady. Clare were beaten (comprehensively) by Wexford in the final 2 years ago but obviously a good team if they got to the final. Clare also won the competition about 10 years ago so to say that its a disgrace to be beaten by Clare smacks of shock tactics. If you're going to slate Clare soccer at least know the facts. Its a very good Clare panel with a good manager. 4-1 is comprehensive and well done Clare!

Dixie's Cousin

04/02/2013, 9:17 AM

corkgaffer

04/02/2013, 9:24 AM

I think a lot of boys are getting carried away here. First and foremost I do not think there is any need to change the management. Maybe having a bit of stability in this post will bring much needed stability to the panel. Tactically I thought he played a very strong starting eleven the correct way and pressed high as a home team does. The Clare side kept their shape very well and I noticed a person watching the game yesterday from Shannon who was also watching on Wednesday night so they done their homework. I didn't see the hunger that was evident on Wednesday and as expected Clare worked hard to limit the space available. The thing is however its at times like this you expected the Cork lads to raise their game to deal with this but it didn't happen.I think Clare got it spot on tactically too by sitting holding and then hitting the Cork side on the break. They took their chances well and should be congratulated on their win

Secondly when it comes to representative football be it your league, county or country you need to lift your game above and beyond what you give every week in the league. You need to match or even better your very best on any given day. There are unfortunately pressures related to this. Some fellas deal well with that and there are others that don't. It doesn't mean that they aren't good players they more than likely enjoy the comfort of being the big fish in a small pond (their own club) Going through the motions at such a level will and cannot do. Unfortunately like in club games you can only afford to carry one or two players max who might be off their games. You cant hide in representative games when you do you're found out pretty sharpish I think yesterday too many boys were hiding. As a coach you can do very little about that when its 4 or 5 players and can only deal with it in a limited way form the bench. When the rest of the squad pull their weight and 3 or 4 others don't it has a knock on effect which we all seen on Sunday.

Ive heard a lot of opinions over the last few weeks some good some bad but most in support of the AUL side. It was a bad loss but that's football. You win some you lose some. Sunday was a bad day at the office. Lets get behind the management and players. Lets welcome them back to their clubs. The Cork Aul league is a fantastic league with players that are more than capable of gracing senior league clubs but in most cases they remain loyal to their schoolboy clubs and their locality. Facilities aren't always up to scratch which lets it down but in football terms its right up there with the best. Most if not all of the boys on here were proud and exited on the first day they played in it. It would be a shame to lose the pride after one poor day at the office.

schoolboygodno9

04/02/2013, 9:25 AM

Fair pay to Clare, it has to be tough coming down here and play away. I wish them luck, now lads no excuses we aren't all Liverpool fans, I hope Donal is there again next year you can't give a guy 1 season he needs time!
Oh without doubt he needs another crack but i think expectations need to be lowered abit he has a load of time between now and the end of the season to see a few more players maybe it wouldnt be a bad idea to bring the panel together now and then for training with a view to next year

our_ball_ref

04/02/2013, 9:52 AM

Crow, Alan healy, Kearney, Babsy, Calla, Graeme keane, Daly, Blakey, Jeffers, Holden all started last year against the MSL and were beat 2 nil in Turners Cross and beat again up in tipp with a slightly different team, Crow Alan Healy, Keegan,Colin Bevan, Babsy, Graeme Keane, Blakey, Daly, Kearney, Jeffers and Darren Lynch... from the first team the only 2 that played yesterday was Kearney and Babsy, the so called big and better players didn even win a game or even draw one for that matter, this years team atleast were unbeaten in there group and qualified out of the group which is a buit of progress if you ask me, its a lot of effort to make training ontop of the training your doing with your clubs, ye all comment here in the comfort of yer houses grand and warm, when them players are travelling to and from douglas hall freezing with the cold, what was expected of this team to go win it?? from the start everyone said if they got out of the group it would be a huge achievemnet and they did that.. The slating of players on here and manager is ridiculous, fairplay to them for getting out of the group its progress from last year, and add to the fact the manager had a few good players who made themselves unavailable and who knows how far they would have gone if every player was available? To say they'd be a better team with all the players gone senior is not true at all the proof is there in front of ye!!

Being realistic getting out of the group was probably the target and they achieved that so fairplay to all involved

Horse24

04/02/2013, 10:38 AM

Sorry Hubba - I didnt mean to pick JC over Darren Lynch or judge a player. The point I was making was in reference to whoever wanted to dump all the players - we may all disagree about a few but most of the squad is what we would all pick.

I think guys outside the squad underestimated Clare - Im sure the guys involved wouldnt be that silly. Clare knocked us out as holders in 2010 in the Cross in a semi to get to the Wexford final the Clare guy referred to.

To be fair lads, the Tipp team would be better than all in the Cork group this year. The MSL game last year was a mistake from the line in not solving an obvious problem, but also a stonewall pen and a ball 5 feet over the line, so lets not retire all the guys from last year yet!

The big thing learned from last year and it seems to be, is the behaviour of the AUL committee. Anyone in the dressing room in Tipp will testify to the poor post match speech, and the numerous occassions since then when the AUL committee have tried to blame the OT defeat & subsequent appeal on the re-collapse of the AUL/MSL relationship. I hope they were better yesterday.

First

04/02/2013, 11:36 AM

Some of the posts on here about Clare are very poor and misplaced but that I am going to assume is just down to ignorance of the Clare League.
Clare club sides have over the years struggled to make an impression at national level. The clubs all have good players, some very good players and collectively some excellent players as was seen yesterday in the performance they produced, all the more impressive on a surface that is not used in Clare.
Cork chose the surface as they felt it would be an advantage, what they didn't count on was the Clare set-up and the preparation put into this team for this competition. This was seen yesterday with the fitness and set-up, each player knowing their job, this wasn't evident in the Cork side who seemed to think that a few individuals would turn the game in their favour. Yes Cork had their periods of dominance but this was handled well by Clare, so much so that each time Clare attacked they looked like adding to the scoreline.
Clare had a team performance yesterday, Cork had a few good performances from individuals, and the result reflected this.

So to those being derogatory( I am assuming these people are not directly involved with the Cork side) towards Clare I recommend you look at your own set-up and your collective opinion that ye shouldn't be losing to "the mighty Clare", well ye have, rather comprehensively, so show a bit of class and accept it for now and have a bit of grace in losing.

Well done to Clare yesterday and good luck with the remainder of the competition.

Also a mention to the referee yesterday, he handled the game very well.

littleman

04/02/2013, 11:43 AM

Its a tough defeat alright as there seemed to be a genuinely good buzz around the Aul team this year.I was envolved in 2 warm up games against them an I was for the most part very impressed by the players and management. Players were selected because they were playing well at the time rather than on reputation,which is very fair and practical. I think lessons will be learned from yeaterday and Id say the Aul team will be stronger for it next season,on and off the pitch.

Comments about losing to Clare are not on either and very disrespectful and for what its worth id like to apoligise to the Clare lads who have read these comments.There are no weak representitive sides in the open draw.I know what the standard is like in these sides,and Im well aware what the standard is like over all around the country and though we are improving we are still a bit behind and all the big 3's and 4's talk cant hide that.

The Aul is a league in transition and its going to take a few seasons before it settles down and takes shape again,not just because of teams that have left but because teams are developing as well and it takes a bit of time to settle.Like I'v said previously the last time it was like this was when Temple an Castleview an a few others went Msl.

On another note maybe now is a time to move on an stop referring to those who are no longer in the Aul.All you can do is select from what you have and constantly making references to those clubs is pointless and disrespectful to the clubs that are still in the Aul.

Corkgaffer interesting opinion but if i may, 1st Mr Keane made that famous statment "fail to prepare,prepare to fail".In these games preperation and information is everything.You said yourself that they had someone watching the game last Wenesday night.Fair dues to them if the did as what ever info was passed on must have influenced the Clare managers selection as they had a game plan based on what they had been told and obviously it worked yesterday. 2nd Mr Morinho said 99% of managers spend too much time thinking of there own team,and not enough on the opposition.The 1% win trophies because they spot the weakness in the opposition and exploit it to their gain. Kudos to the Clare manager if so.

Radiostar

04/02/2013, 11:44 AM

1fortheTeam

04/02/2013, 2:53 PM

Well said 'First', Cork Aul have no right to think we should be beating Clare or any other divisional side. I'd be fairly sure everyone involved did their best. It wasn't good enough on the day. It happens, just get on with it, and show Donal a little respect for the effort he has put in.i agree donal will get it right he has a about 6 months done and he did quiet well so well done to all build on the 2nd half they had a right go .clare were better and did their homework also congrads to them.

schoolboygodno9

05/02/2013, 9:43 AM

Coachford to surely stretch there lead at the top this weekend

1fortheTeam

05/02/2013, 10:22 AM

Coachford to surely stretch there lead at the top this weekendthat wont be easy godno9 never is up there i watch them v the street few weeks ago and they work very hard they put in a big 90mins .

schoolboygodno9

05/02/2013, 10:43 AM

Ya fair enough but if theve any notion of winning the league these are games they should be putting the points on the board

1fortheTeam

05/02/2013, 10:51 AM

Ya fair enough but if theve any notion of winning the league these are games they should be putting the points on the boardyes of course but points are won on the pitch kid and notions dont win games .hard work and attitude and that bit of class best of luck to the lads .

our_ball_ref

05/02/2013, 2:41 PM

If this keeps up dont think many games will go ahead this weekend either

oldlegs

05/02/2013, 3:58 PM

Hard enough to get time off for games as it is !!!!!!!

Chiefscout

05/02/2013, 4:31 PM

Do coachford play nearly every Tuesday night,in friendlies,on all weather pitches?.so wouldn't effect them in my opinion if they moved their game

Chiefscout

05/02/2013, 4:58 PM

So your telling me chief that coachford would like to play killumney on astro so and even pearse haha mickey would go mad his long ball wouldnt work on the astro lol
True I suppose :),but I'd say for sake of getting a game on this weekend I think mick would go for it

tricksey

05/02/2013, 5:34 PM

1fortheTeam

05/02/2013, 6:07 PM

This weather is shocking lads I no it's not great scenario playing on astro but it has to be done it s not ideal giving up your home advantage like that but it's better then going to the opponents ground !if game off at weekend so what train..same tuesday and an astro game thurs then pike in cork they will be no going away thats just my opinion.

tricksey

05/02/2013, 6:18 PM

if game off at weekend so what train..same tuesday and an astro game thurs then pike in cork they will be no going away thats just my opinion.
Agree 1 for there should be no way you should give up playing in cork

schoolboygodno9

05/02/2013, 6:41 PM

Would they though after what happened to killumney

tricksey

05/02/2013, 6:42 PM

Would they though after what happened to killumney

What happened killumney ?

schoolboygodno9

05/02/2013, 7:07 PM

Robbed playing in cork

tricksey

05/02/2013, 7:09 PM

Robbed playing in cork
That ref could have had a bad day at the office he's human many a bad day we've all had !

schoolboygodno9

05/02/2013, 7:16 PM

True enough but i think ud be better off playing away all the pressure is on home team to perform

tricksey

05/02/2013, 8:35 PM

Others on this would argue you get robbed playing away aswell like and in coachfords case the pressure is on Pike there clear favourites so no pressure on Coachford really

schoolboygodno9

05/02/2013, 8:40 PM

Lads honestly can anybody even think coachford have a chance against pike the aul team wouldnt even beat pike they would give all bar avondale a run for their money pike are the best team in munster junior football bar none..im goong 6-0 pike blown up after 70 mins i no ots npt good to say but i rather walk the dogs than play that game

Ninety mins u never know but pike overwhelming favs

tricksey

05/02/2013, 9:47 PM

Blarney st o-4 Wilton friendly up in mayfield com Wilton tore them apart could have been easily 10 sad to see an average Wilton side doing that to a premier aul team .

K.C.

05/02/2013, 9:48 PM

Others on this would argue you get robbed playing away aswell like and in coachfords case the pressure is on Pike there clear favourites so no pressure on Coachford really

We were robbed playing Janesboro two weeks ago. Don't get me wrong they were at least a couple of levels above us and totally deserved the win but decisions went in their favour all game. We take a quick throw and are in on goal and their players start shouting it's not a match ball and ref stops the game to 'check'. The peno they got was never a penalty and their keeper even said he could see our centre half getting the ball from where he was., red card!!! The refs down here are afraid of being biased so they do the opposite and they are doing it for years.

K.C.

05/02/2013, 9:51 PM

Lads honestly can anybody even think coachford have a chance against pike the aul team wouldnt even beat pike they would give all bar avondale a run for their money pike are the best team in munster junior football bar none..im goong 6-0 pike blown up after 70 mins i no ots npt good to say but i rather walk the dogs than play that game

I hope coachford do very well, not only for the players, the management and the Cork AUL but to put him in his place!!