Cork AUL 2012/13

[Triggs]

Great idea in theory Oldlegs and with a bit of tweaking could even work. But in all honesty do people still think this would stop players blaming the official after a result goes against them. Not at all. As soon as one of them young linesmen make a tough decision you would have fellas coming on here saying he don't know what he is doing or he is out of his depth or what ever. The fact is it ill always happen. The losing team will always blame the officials one way or another. Just alone by reading this forum in the weekend gone several clubs have blamed the ref for results going against them either directly or indirectly. Surely some one on here benefitted from a referees decision but you don't see them coming on here and giving him credit. I think it's about time players and managers had a look at themselves first because they are the one who miss the chances or give away goals. Not the ref. best of luck to Pearse in the draw. Fingers crossed for home draw

[oldlegs]

Thanks Hubba there goes my dream of being on aul commitee :( . Triggs thanks be nice to have linesman . Just a question on aul funds what are they used for ??? And without dragging up old news what was the aul doing with that amount of cash ??? Was there a plan or what was the thinking behind it . Be nice if aul gave something back to clubs ie in grants or even low interest loans .

[Igot2words4ya]

Best of luck too Pearse...loadsa of ex team mates out there and too notch manager.

[sharpshooter]

Happy with that draw tricksey?

[oldlegs]

Away draw to Carew best of luck lads

[tricksey]

Lads I hope ye all travel with us were representing cork aswell up there might aswell forget were all against eachother for the day

[Horse24]

My idea would be to improve referreeing standards by cutting out repeat errors for a start. Twice we had a grade one official this season who made an error twice. He compounded the error twice when he had ways not to. If that came up at a refs meeting a month or six weeks later and they discussed how to handle it next time, that official would learn. We won one of those games by the way!

We had one of the top officials on the local game make a horrendous error a few years back that did change momentum in a game. He is still a top official in my opinion. However, for example, there is another Grade 1 official who I have seen three times this year and he gets five or six decisions right out of ten. He should not be Grade 1. Grade 1 needs to be getting 8 or 9 right.

Someone mentioned managers and players need to be better. What is being missed is that we pay to play - they get paid. Just looking for value for money.

The AUL would take any good footballing man on board. They are overworked amateurs.

Anyone who was at the meeting when the missing money story broke saw the AUL chairman in pieces. If he knew about the money and was acting, then he should get an Oscar!!

Best of luck Tricks!

[tricksey]

I will support ye tricksey if ye get to the final that fair enough;)lol hopefully ye get more additions to yere team by then because from what i hear yere squad is getting thinner not tricksey now;)lolhow many of ye are in charge of the tricksey account

Thanks hubba
There's less of us then ye lol

[oldlegs]

Hold a place on the bus for me Tricksay . I'll bring the hulu hoops a

[Blackandwhite]

Can someone post up the Munster junior draw please

[oldlegs]

For Aidan sitting all alone in a dublin hotel . I know your over the moon about getting into the Aoh semi's but really drinking on your own in Dublin !!!!!!!! Best of luck in yere City challange game !!!!!!

[1fortheTeam]

Thanks hubba
There's less of us then ye lolwelldone tricks great draw bud the very best of luck to you kid .

[The Boar]

Lads, we can moan and groan about refs but it is the same moans from a decade ago and will be the same in a decades time unless we do something. Looking at the eight Prem and Prem A fixtures for next week, I don't know one guy, only had another guy once so won't comment. Leaves six, 3 are ok. They make mistakes but overall get most things right. The key is that you can talk to them and they will explain decisions. We mightn't like it but at least there is respect. Two of the others make the same mistakes again and again. The key is that they mightn't even know that they do cos who tells them? The last guy is rising through the ranks, but I know teams don't rate him.

People need to realise that we are not looking to hang anyone- just looking for value for our money. The opinions of the teams are not taken into account.

I plan to suggest a form of refs report from teams , set mail address or standard form for example. We send in our opinions and they are reviewed once a month by league and representative from refs association together. After a while, a pattern will emerge of teams who report only when they lose and other redundant opinions, but also other patterns will emerge. The league can see what refs/teams don't get on and it might help them avoid confrontation. Common errors by the same ref can help the refs society advise the ref. win for everyone.

Ask your clubs what they think before AGM and let me know in pm if you want.

Saw a teenager ref a game yesterday. Got 90% of his decisions right. Looks a prospect.

Did I hear Robbie Walsh and his manager had a dressing room confrontation after the Street game?

Thats a great idea about a form of refs report cant see the leagues and referees going for it but putting a proposal to the AGM's is worth a shot be interesting to see what they would say might make them take the games a bit more seriously.

[tricksey]

Thanks for the support lads hopefully we go up to Carew and do aul proud

[The Boar]

Killumney v douglas for me
Bit unfair to Ballinhassig and Lakewood after all they did get to Semis and as you said it is hard to get there, it's all very well to say it looks that way on paper
but as all clubs and teams know, anything can happen in a cup match, so no one should get cocky

[1fortheTeam]

Bit unfair to Ballinhassig and Lakewood after all they did get to Semis and as you said it is hard to get there, it's all very well to say it looks that way on paper
but as all clubs and teams know, anything can happen in a cup match, so no one should get cocky
relax bud that just his opinion hes puting no one down unlike me i hope kilumney destroy them lol .

[The Boar]

2 leg semis in the Aoh,,,,,,,,,, complete an utter joke an mockery of the most highly regarded competition in not just Cork, but those that hold an Aoh as there highest acolade,an i have no doubt some will say sure tis only a Cork thing,,,,,,, havin a Aoh medal used to mean a lot cause it was a nightmare to reach a final,now we have 2 bites at the cherry,,,,,,,,, just my opinion,an i know its been this way 4 or 5 seasons




On the refs thing ,,,,,,,,,,.
was at a game once where a player lambasted a ref,,,,, the ref returned fire an asked. " do i tell you how bad you were".,,,,,,,,im the first to say its a poor standard,,,,,,, but how would ye feel if refs had a thread about the worst clubs to ref in cork,,,,,,an score them on a match card,,,...

Having an AOH cup medal does mean a lot to everyone who has one and anyone that doesn't have one would I'm sure would like to have one, the semis used to always be played in Turners cross as well and were a very big occassion, but by making them two leg they deprived teams of playing in turners cross yet again, but we have come to expect these types of decisions from the AUL.

[six-yard-box]

Bit unfair to Ballinhassig and Lakewood after all they did get to Semis and as you said it is hard to get there, it's all very well to say it looks that way on paper
but as all clubs and teams know, anything can happen in a cup match, so no one should get cocky
agree with ya too a point anything can happen in a cup match. but there two legged semis now the weaker teams wont get away with it twice. quality will prevail. cannot for the life of me understand why there 2 legged. imagine the fa changinng the fa cup to 2 legged semis thered be a mutiny.

[1fortheTeam]

agree with ya too a point anything can happen in a cup match. but there two legged semis now the weaker teams wont get away with it twice. quality will prevail. cannot for the life of me understand why there 2 legged. imagine the fa changinng the fa cup to 2 legged semis thered be a mutiny.semi shouldnt be at turners cross though .

[The Boar]

good idea old legs but it would be the clubs that would have to pay , all da Aul are interested in is topping up the money that was stolen by there great friend

Shouldn't be passing comments about people like that on here.

[The Boar]

My idea would be to improve referreeing standards by cutting out repeat errors for a start. Twice we had a grade one official this season who made an error twice. He compounded the error twice when he had ways not to. If that came up at a refs meeting a month or six weeks later and they discussed how to handle it next time, that official would learn. We won one of those games by the way!

We had one of the top officials on the local game make a horrendous error a few years back that did change momentum in a game. He is still a top official in my opinion. However, for example, there is another Grade 1 official who I have seen three times this year and he gets five or six decisions right out of ten. He should not be Grade 1. Grade 1 needs to be getting 8 or 9 right.

Someone mentioned managers and players need to be better. What is being missed is that we pay to play - they get paid. Just looking for value for money.

The AUL would take any good footballing man on board. They are overworked amateurs.

Anyone who was at the meeting when the missing money story broke saw the AUL chairman in pieces. If he knew about the money and was acting, then he should get an Oscar!!

Best of luck Tricks!

They had good men working with them and look how they treated them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Boar]

semi shouldnt be at turners cross though .

Why not it is the biggest cup in the AUL season and was always treated that way and what made it different from the other cups was that the semis were played in Turners cross and that the draw for the semis was a big occassion to,

[The Boar]

If you want to become a member of the AUL committee then you need your own club to nominate you and two or three other clubs I think to nominate you as well and then it goes to the AGM for proposal and to be passed or thats the way it used to be unless they changed that to, and then your on the committee. Then after the AGM the committee decide on their own committee and who takes up what positions

[roberto1]

with the backlog of games at the end of the season it might be best going forward to change the AOH semi-finals to a one off game at a neutral venue.

[1fortheTeam]

Why not it is the biggest cup in the AUL season and was always treated that way and what made it different from the other cups was that the semis were played in Turners cross and that the draw for the semis was a big occassion to,rubbish semi in the cross is a cheap trip out there save it for finals .

[thomas72]

We ( carew park ) are looking forward to a cracking cup tie be a great game.

[oldlegs]

Horse would you go for an aul job !! You have my vote

[1fortheTeam]

We ( carew park ) are looking forward to a cracking cup tie be a great game.so are they id say and just to let you know they wear white lol .

[robot]

Best of luck to pearse.what is the date for that game.hope ye stay injury and suspension free before that game to give it a right go up there

[Horse24]

Horse would you go for an aul job !! You have my vote A quality vote it is too! Never say never in football but I don't see in the next few years. I'm getting my fill of football now with 4/5 days a week!! Hard to walk away from your club so I think they will have to relax that rule in the future. How would that work though?

I think Cross days were reduced for AUL by MFA so either semis or two finals had to go.

I'm split on it, like FA cup in England. The more people who play at the Cross the better but something special about a final?

Wouldn't a double header somewhere be the answer? Same time in Casement, Blarney or Carrigaline?

[Blackandwhite]

Just want to say best of luck to Pearse in the next round. Here's hoping they can beat Carew park

[our_ball_ref]

Semis shouldn't be anywhere near turners cross that's half the buzz of playing a final.. 1 leg neutral venue for me anyway that's the way it should be!!

[Tekkers]

Best of luck to pearse.what is the date for that game.hope ye stay injury and suspension free before that game to give it a right go up there

Thanks very much bud:)...Game is after being confirmed for Sunday the 24th!!

[oldlegs]

I'm there :)

[Igot2words4ya]

Semis shouldn't be anywhere near turners cross that's half the buzz of playing a final.. 1 leg neutral venue for me anyway that's the way it should be!!
i agree...The Final should be saved for the Cross.Not the semi's

[The Boar]

Its a joke this two leg semi final you dont see the fa cup semi final being a two leg game 1 game winner compeyes in final simple as two legs is another monry racket by aul

one game semi is the right way to go it is the way it always was until the AUL in their wisdom decided to change it, now if you want to suggest it is changed back then a proposal from a club is needed for the AGM to have it changed back, this proposal would have to be in a month before the AGM with the Secretary of the AUL and then there would be a discussion at the AGM and you would see if clubs wanted it or not, maybe it would be passed at the AGM at the end of the season.

I still dont see what is wrong with playing the semis in Turners Cross as the neutral venue, as it is always great for clubs and players to play in the cross.

[The Boar]

A quality vote it is too! Never say never in football but I don't see in the next few years. I'm getting my fill of football now with 4/5 days a week!! Hard to walk away from your club so I think they will have to relax that rule in the future. How would that work though?

I think Cross days were reduced for AUL by MFA so either semis or two finals had to go.

I'm split on it, like FA cup in England. The more people who play at the Cross the better but something special about a final?

Wouldn't a double header somewhere be the answer? Same time in Casement, Blarney or Carrigaline?

In order for you to be able to join the AUL at the moment you have to cut all ties with your present club in my opinion that is a lot to expect because people give a lot of time to their own clubs and are very involved in their clubs for a very long time and put in a lot of years, the AUL need to change this rule they have if they want to get good working volunteers onto their bord. In the MSL you can stay involved to a certain extent with your own club, here is another proposal for the AGM because this is the only platform form that clubs have for suggesting change

[K.C.]

What's the point of a two legged semi-final? It's a knockout cup competition. Away goals don't count do they??

[Innishvilla]

What's the point of a two legged semi-final? It's a knockout cup competition. Away goals don't count do they??

No away goals do not count in AOH or county cup semi finals.

[Igot2words4ya]

What's the point of a two legged semi-final? It's a knockout cup competition. Away goals don't count do they??


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[tricksey]

Definitely aoh holders vs league holders

[1fortheTeam]

Definitely aoh holders vs league holderstricks have your the bus booked for the carew game lol the build up out there is great id say if we have no game il head down bud ;) busy week for you .

[thomas72]

Lad in midfield who got sent off last round will be a loss for pearse few lads saying he is a top player??

[1fortheTeam]

Lad in midfield who got sent off last round will be a loss for pearse few lads saying he is a top player??lots of good players in that club and good young manager love to see them pull it off very best of luck to them.

[Igot2words4ya]

Lad in midfield who got sent off last round will be a loss for pearse few lads saying he is a top player??

That's davey.too be honest he is a too player but Pearse have plenty of top players too step in.dave is by no means a certainty on the team sheet for pearse anymore...bar tricksey I don't think anyone out in pearse is garenteed their game..

[thebooboys]

Fancy killumney to turn park over this weekend...

Hoping Park can win and make it interesting.

[1fortheTeam]

well done to leeview team of the month for feb big up to leftside and the boys.full house for training hard workers and try to play football a club going forward.

[killer"B"]

well done to leeview team of the month for feb big up to leftside and the boys.full house for training hard workers and try to play football a club going forward.
A big thanks to management too he knows who he is putting in the time wit the lads :)

[quickone2]

Good luck to pearse go on and do us proud.

[oldlegs]

Coachford boys would like Park and Kilumney to draw me thinks