Cork AUL Premier & Premier A 2014/15

[killer"B"]

AUL RESULTS TUESDAY
Mossie Linnane League Cup:
Group B: Coachford A 1 Innishvilla A 0; Blarney St Ath 3 Macroom A 3.
Group C: Pearse Celtic A 4 Dillon Cross Ath 3.

Group D: Castleview 1 Greenwood A 2.

[Kick-off]

CORK AUL FIXTURESFriday 5th September Ko. 7.45pm
AUL 3A
City Wanderers v Carrigtwohill Utd, CIT Bishopstown, Finbar Murphy
Saturday 6th September Ko. 3.00pm
AOH Cup 1st Round
Castleview v Carrigaline Utd, O’Sullivan Pk, L.Buckley
Temple Utd v Central Rovers, Temple Pk, T.Cotter
Killumney Utd B v Waterloo C, Killeady, S.Madine
Corkbeg v Watergrasshill Utd, Whitgate, Christopher Braganza
Village Utd v Buttevant, Silverheights Pk, D.Cronin
Rathcoole Rovers v Macroom B, Rathcoole, B.Buckley
Carrigtwohill Utd A v St John Boscos C, Ballyadam Pk, Tony Thompson
Blarney St Ath v Knockraha, GACA Pitches, Brooklodge, Tony Murphy
Fairview v Glen Celtic A, Fairfield, Pat Murphy
Tower FC v Glenvale, Killowen, T.Collins
Greenmount Rangers v Leeview Ath, Murphys Farm, Finbar Murphy
Park Utd A v Waterloo A, Brigown, Paul O’Sullivan
CFC Banteer v Millstreet Celtic, Banteer Sports Field, Liam Murphy
Premier League
Coachford v Greenwood, The Glebe, G.Stephens
Pearse Cetic v Killumney Utd, Leaghanamore, E.Harte
AUL 1
Kanturk v Strand Utd, Kanturk, D.Deady
Rylane Celtic v Bohemians, Rylane, T.Mazur
AUL 1A
Richmond v St John Boscos A, Garrandarragh, Wilton, J.Walsh
AUL 2A
Glenthorn Celtic v Grangevale, Glenthorn Pk, Pat Hennessy
AUL 3B
Waterloo v Bweeng Celtic, Whitechurch Community Centre, H.McGovern
Strand Utd v Innishvilla, Ballyanley, P.O’Sullivan
Sunday 7th September Ko. 10.45am Unless Otherwise Stated
AOH Cup 1st Round
Los Zarcos v Blackstone Rovers, Station Rd, Millstreet, Tony Thompson
Coachford B v Macroom A, Carrigadrohid, 3.00pm, D.Cronin
Ard Na Laoi v Glen Celtic B, Leemount, L.Buckley
Glen Celtic C v Cathedral Celtic, Glen Pk, Pat Murphy
Castlelack v Hillington, Castelack, G.Stephens
Premier A League
Springfield v Dillons Cross Ath, Pat O’Brien Pk, Tony Murphy
AUL 2
Ballinhassig v Crescent Ath, Gortnaglough, B.O’Regan
Ballincollig v Newmarket Town, Regional Pk, R.Crean
Blackpool Celtic v De Courcey Albion, Temple Pk, D.Deady
AUL 2A
Shandon Celtic v Park Utd, Pophams Field, Paul Braganza
Glanworth Utd v Knocknaheeny Celtic, Glanworth, Peter O’Sullivan
AUL3
Parkview Celtic v Greenwood, Deer Park National School, A.McDonagh
AUL 3A
St John Boscos v Pearse Celtic, Billy Ahern Field, Midleton, R.Fitzgerald

[killer"B"]

CORK AUL FIXTURES
Saturday 30th August Ko. 3.00pm Unless Otherwise Stated
Mossie Linnane League Cup
Group A
Glenthorn Celtic A v Cathedral Celtic, Glenthorn Pk, D.Deady
Group B
Macroom A v Coachford A, Murray Field, Paul O’Sullivan
Group D
Park Utd A v Carrigtwohill Utd A, Brigown, L.Buckley
Sunday 31st August Ko. 10.45am Unless Otherwise Stated
Mossie Linnane League Cup
Group A
Killumney Utd A v Grattan Utd A, Killeady, D.O’Mahony
Group B
Innishvilla A v Kilreen Celtic, Knocknacurra, Innshannon, Pat Murphy
Group C
Dillon Cross Ath v Glen Celtic A, Silverheight Pk, L.Buckley
Group D
Greenwood A v Village Utd, Leaghanamore, D.Deady

[killer"B"]

AUL RESULTS (SATURDAY)
Mossie Linnane League Cup:
Group A: Glenthorn Celtic A 5 Cathedral Celtic 0;
Group B: Macroom A 2 Coachford A 1;
Group D: Park Utd A 1 Carrigtwohill Utd A 1;
AUL 1: Fairview 6 Strand Utd 0; Rylane Celtic v Kanturk (off);
AUL 1A: St John Boscos 3 Buttevant 1; Knockraha 1 Central Rovers 1; Richmond 0 Waterloo 4; Greenmount Rangers 1 Dunbar Celtic 1;
AUL 2: CFC Banteer 3 Blackpool Celtic 1; Rathcoole Rovers 3 Leeview Ath 3; Clougduv 4 Ballinhassig 0;
AUL 2A: Knocknaheeny Celtic 4 Shandon Celtic 1;
AUL 3: Greenwood 4 Castlelack 0; Macroom 2 Ard Na Laoi 2;
AUL 3A: Corkbeg 0 City Wanderers 0;
AUL 3B: Innishvilla 3 Coachford B 0; Killumney Utd 0 Bweeng Celtic 3; Waterloo 1 Strand Utd 5;

[The Red Dragon]

Kilreen 2-1 inishvilla

[chilloutref]

Killreen good value for the win. But just about. Had a lot of chances wit the innish keeper making a few saves. Innish a good organised side an won't bow down to anybody at home

[killer"B"]

AUL RESULTS (COMPLETE)
Mossie Linnane League Cup:
Group A: Glenthorn Celtic A 5 Cathedral Celtic 0; Killumney Utd A 2 Grattan Utd A 2.
Group B: Macroom A 2 Coachford A 1; Innishvilla A 1 Kilreen Celtic 2.
Group C: Dillon Cross Ath 1 Glen Celtic A 1.
Group D: Park Utd A 1 Carrigtwohill Utd A 1; Greenwood A 0 Village Utd 2.
AUL 1: Fairview 6 Strand Utd 0; Rylane Celtic v Kanturk (off); Glenvale 0 Bohemians 2; Millstreet Celtic 1 Blackstone Rovers 6.
AUL 1A: St John Boscos 3 Buttevant 1; Knockraha 1 Central Rovers 0; Richmond 0 Waterloo 4; Greenmount Rangers 1 Dunbar Celtic 1;
AUL 2: CFC Banteer 3 Blackpool Celtic 1; Rathcoole Rovers 3 Leeview Ath 3; Cloughduv 4 Ballinhassig 0; De Courcey Albion 1 Newmarket Town 1.
AUL 2A: Knocknaheeny Celtic 4 Shandon Celtic 1; Park Utd 2 Watergrasshill Utd 1; Glenthorn Celtic 0 Glen Celtic 8; Grangevale 3 Glanworth Utd 0; Hillington 2 Donoughmore Ath 0.
AUL 3: Greenwood 4 Castlelack 0; Macroom 2 Ard Na Laoi 2; Parkview Celtic 1 Afton Villa 3; St John Boscos 0 Waterloo 3.
AUL 3A: Corkbeg 0 City Wanderers 0; Glen Celtic 3 Carrigaline Utd 3; Grattan Utd 4 St John Boscos 1; Temple Utd 0 Pearse Celtic 0.

AUL 3B: Innishvilla 3 Coachford B 0; Killumney Utd 0 Bweeng Celtic 3; Waterloo 1 Strand Utd 5; Los Zarcos 0 Tower FC 2.

[oldlegs]

Was a good game of ball thought we might have earned a draw but it was an all round good game with both sides playing some fine football . Kilreen like to play ball and we always try to play as well . Kilreen have a very good squad and should challange for all cups this year .as for ourselfs we hope that we can come up out of prem a . Any idea when draw for quater finals are on

[moonman]

Was a good game of ball thought we might have earned a draw but it was an all round good game with both sides playing some fine football . Kilreen like to play ball and we always try to play as well . Kilreen have a very good squad and should challange for all cups this year .as for ourselfs we hope that we can come up out of prem a . Any idea when draw for quater finals are on
Tought it was the winners of group A V runners up of group B and runners up in group A V winners of group B and same for the other 2 quarters

[oldlegs]

You could be right whose through from each group

[Snooker]

Killumney Utd A 2 Grattan Utd A 2, killumney should have won this one they were well on top for the last 25 min and should have scored in that time but fair play to gratten they dug in and defended well. but some of their players look unfit and could struggle for the rest of the season. kilumney could do with a finisher as they did create due to gratten getting tired

[The Red Dragon]

Was good game inishvilla played well fancy them to do well premier a

[moonman]

FAI Junior Cup Draw Round 1
(Ties to be played the weekend of the 13th/14th September)
Greenwood B FC Vs Killumney Utd

Round 2:(Ties to be played the weekend of the 27th/ 28th September)
Park Utd Vs Ringmahon Rangers B
Kilreen Celtic Vs Greenwood B FC OR Killumney FC
Knocknaheeney Celtic Vs Passage FC
Leeview Athletic Vs Greenmount Rangers
Avondale Utd Vs Blarney Utd
Cobh Wanderers Vs Buttevant FC
Waterloo FC Vs Blackstone Rovers
Fermoy FC Vs College Corinthians
Carrigtwohill Utd Vs Blackpool Celtic
Cloughcuv Celtic Vs Greenwood A FC
Castleview FC Vs Ringmahon Rangers A
Mayfield Utd Vs St Mays FC
Riverstown Brooklodge A Vs Glen Celtic A
Wilton Utd Vs Carrigaline Utd
Grattan Utd Vs Middleton FC
Dunbar Celtic Vs Richmond A FC
Mallow Utd Vs Ringmahon Rangers B
Coachford FC Vs UCC FC
Riverstown Brooklodge B Vs Cathedral Celtic
Blarney St Athletic Vs Bweeng Celtic
Macroom FC Vs Leeside Ath
Cork Eagles Vs Kanturk FC
Pearse Celtic Vs Springfield FC
Everton Utd B Vs Douglas Hall FC
Innishvilla FC Vs Everton Utd A
Temple Utd Vs Waterglass Hill Utd
Douglas Hall B Vs Tower FC
Glen Celtic B Vs Glenvale FC

[moonman]

The draw has been made for the Group Stages of the 2014/15 Oscar Traynor Cup

Group 1:

Leinster Senior League
Wicklow
Dublin AUL
Defence Forces

Group 2:
United Churches League
Leinster Football League
Garda
Meath

Group 3:
Wexford
Kilkenny
Carlow
Waterford

Group 4:
Limerick
Kerry
Cork AUL
Desmond League

Group 5:
Sligo / Leitrim
Inishowen
Donegal
Cavan / Monaghan

Group 6:
Mayo
Roscommon
Galway
Clare

[Sparks]

The draw has been made for the Group Stages of the 2014/15 Oscar Traynor Cup

Group 1:

Leinster Senior League
Wicklow
Dublin AUL
Defence Forces

Group 2:
United Churches League
Leinster Football League
Garda
Meath

Group 3:
Wexford
Kilkenny
Carlow
Waterford

Group 4:
Limerick
Kerry
Cork AUL
Desmond League

Group 5:
Sligo / Leitrim
Inishowen
Donegal
Cavan / Monaghan

Group 6:
Mayo
Roscommon
Galway
Clare
Do cork have no MSL team?

[killer"B"]

Tuesday 2nd September Ko 6.30 pm Sharp
Mossie Linnane League Cup
Group A
Cathedral Celtic v Killumney Utd, Fairfield, Pat Murphy
Group C
Glen Celtic A v Pearse Celtic A, Glen Pk, G.Stephens
Group D
Village Utd v Park Utd A, Silverheights Pk, D.Cronin

[killer"B"]

glen celtic 2 vs 3 pearse celtic great game of football tonight between these two teams

park 4-1 winners against village utd

Cathedral Celtic 2-1 winners against killumney

[oldlegs]

So who is through lads from each group ?

[killer"B"]

So who is through lads from each group ?
group C ,, 1st pearse 2nd glen celtic (im sure )

[Just my opinion]

Big result out of cathedral tonite. They done well last season in the weaker of the Div 1(s) and got promoted via a playoff . Haven't had the best of starts to the season but tonites result confirms my belief that the Mossie is used as a pre season . That aside Killumney look like they are in real trouble! They won't be relegated but they will challenge for nothing

[Kick-off]

Just want to congratulate donal Lyons on finally playing premier football after training with every northside team and for them to not accept him it looks like pearse Celtic gave him a chance...cork aul team next for ya killer b

[Just my opinion]

Just want to congratulate donal Lyons on finally playing premier football after training with every northside team and for them to not accept him it looks like pearse Celtic gave him a chance...cork aul team next for ya killer b

Classic Kick-off!! Hahaha

[moonman]

Just want to congratulate donal Lyons on finally playing premier football after training with every northside team and for them to not accept him it looks like pearse Celtic gave him a chance...cork aul team next for ya killer b

Bas taste in your mouth kick off after he helped Pearce beat ye last night !!

[Just my opinion]

Bas taste in your mouth kick off after he helped Pearce beat ye last night !!

Ah moonman in fairness he signed with 3 teams last year. Surely pearse aren't that stuck.

[tricksey]

Ah moonman in fairness he signed with 3 teams last year. Surely pearse aren't that stuck.Hes actually signed for the b team and was called up last night cause dey were missing a few and the manager thinks hes good enough and in fairness he played a big part in pearse winning had to play up top for the majority of the second half on his own after the sending off caused the glen defence all sort of problems and set up the equaliser too that was against the team most fellas tipped to win prem aswell think he proved he can play that level last night to be fair, fellas are very quick to slag on this.

[killer"B"]

am i right in thinking this is the mossie line up for the 1/4s

pearse v village, park vs glen, glenthorn vs innishvilla, kilreen vs grattan

[Kick-off]

What is the rule so he can use b players whenever he only has 11 because if your stuck for players in September come December he will be struggling more for players..

[moonman]

Ah moonman in fairness he signed with 3 teams last year. Surely pearse aren't that stuck.

new season pal time to move on ⚽️🏆⚽️

[tricksey]

What is the rule so he can use b players whenever he only has 11 because if your stuck for players in September come December he will be struggling more for players..
all B players are allowed to play 5 games with A team after that the player will be tied to the A team.Why will he be struggling more in December??

[bkfrmretirement]

Whats the problem with a b team player getting the opportunity to progress onto the a team if the manager believes hes good enough? Heard killer had a great game last nite and fair deuce to him

[SecondBall]

Absolute classic post

[SecondBall]

Fellas can't even play ball without a slagging off nowadays? Killeen have the two grattan teams so in the upcoming weeks if Killer B is correct??

[SecondBall]

Killumney Utd A 2 Grattan Utd A 2, killumney should have won this one they were well on top for the last 25 min and should have scored in that time but fair play to gratten they dug in and defended well. but some of their players look unfit and could struggle for the rest of the season. kilumney could do with a finisher as they did create due to gratten getting tired

grattan in a bad way I heard??

[killer"B"]

MOSSIE LINNANE LEAGUE CUP
QUARTER FINAL DRAW
Glenthorn Celtic A v Innishvilla A
Kilreen Celtic v Grattan Utd A
Pearse Celtic A v Village Utd
Park Utd A v Glen Celtic A
SEMI FINAL DRAW
Glenthorn Celtic A or Innishvilla A v Pearse Celtic A or Village Utd

Kilreen Celtic or Grattan Utd A v Park Utd A or Glen Celtic A

[oldlegs]

Park v the Glen the tie of the 1/4 finals I would say

[killer"B"]

Just want to congratulate donal Lyons on finally playing premier football after training with every northside team and for them to not accept him it looks like pearse Celtic gave him a chance...cork aul team next for ya killer b
thanks for the kind comments kick -off you shouldnt have, but if you followed any AUL football you would have knowing or even seen me play premier football last season too with the glen celtic A-team while i was signed with the glen celtic B-team against innishvilla and springerfield but but agan buddie thanks for the kind comments :cool:

[Snooker]

not sure it was the first time i seen them. but it was a bad game .kilumney could be in trouble too by the looks of it. it would be fair to say that the 2 teams wont be fighting it out for honours this year. But then again it was a sunday morning game ;)

[injurytime]

CORK AUL FIXTURES
Friday 12th September Ko. 7.45pm
Presidents Cup 1st Round
City Wanderers v Parkview Celtic, CIT Bishopstown, J.Walsh
Saturday 13th September Ko .3.00pm Unless Otherwsie Stated
FAI Junior Cup 1st Round
Greenwood B v Killumney Utd A, Leaghanamore, L.Buckley
AOH Cup 1st Round
Cloughduv v Donoughamore Ath, Fr O’Driscoll Pk, B.O’Regan
St Michaels Cup 1st Round
Kanturk v Buttevant, Kanturk, D.Cronin
Lakewood Ath v Richmond, Ovens, L.Murphy
St Michaels Cup 2nd Round
Knockraha v Rylane Celtic, GACA Pitches, Brooklodge, R.Crean
Dunbar Celtic v Fairview, Murphys Farm, T.Cottor
St John Boscos A v Millstreet Celtic, Billy Ahern Field, Midleton, H.McGovern
Blackstone Rovers v Glenvale, Fairfield, Finbarr Murphy
Saxone Cup 2nd Round
Knocknaheeny Celtic v Rathcoole Rovers, Kilmore Road, P.Hennessy
President Cup 1st Round
Waterloo C v Tower FC, Whitechurch Community Centre, Christopher Braganza
Temple Utd v Afton Villa, Temple Pk, D.Donovan
Innishvilla B v Macroom B, Knocknacurra, Innishannon, B.Buckley
Carrigaline Utd v Killumney Utd B, Ballea Pk, T.Collins
Premier League
Coachford v Blarney St Ath, The Glebe, Paul O Sullivan
Glen Celtic v Pearse Celtic, Glen Pk, D.O’Mahony
Glenthorn Celtic v Kilreen Celtic, Glenthorn Pk, Pat Murphy
Premier A League
Springfield v Castleview, Pat O Brien Pk, D.Deady
Macroom A v Cathedral Celtic, Murray Field, G.Stephens
Village Utd v Carrigtwohill Utd, Silverheights Pk, E.Harte
AUL 2A
Park Utd v Hillington, Brigown, T.Thompson
Sunday 14th September Ko. 10.45 am Unless Otherwise Stated
St Michaels Cup 2nd Round
Strand Utd A v Greenmount Rangers, Ballyanley, G.Stephens
Saxone Cup 1st Round
Ballincollig v Glen Celtic B, Regional Pk, R.Fitzgerald
Blackpool Celtic v Glenthorn Celtic B, Temple Pk ,M.Doody
Grangevale v Leeview Ath, Grangevale Pk, Paul O’Sullivan
Saxone Cup 2nd Round
De Courcey Albion v Watergrasshill Utd, Ballinadee, B.O’Regan
Crescent Ath v Ballinhassig, Regional Pk, A.Mc Donagh
Presidents Cup 1st Round
Bweeng Celtic v Ard Na Laoi, Bweeng Sports Centre, P.Hennessy
Castlelack v Coachford B, Castlelack, D..Donovan
St John Boscos C v Corkbeg, Billy Ahern Field, Midleton, H.Mc Govern
Los Zarcos v Glen Celtic C, Station Rd , Millstreet, Tony Thomspon
Premier League
Greenwood v Park Utd, Leaghanamore, D.O’Mahony
Premier A League
Innishvilla v Dillons Cross, Knocknacurra, Innishannon, Pat Murphy
AUL2A
Glanworth Utd v Shandon Celtic, Glanworth, D.Deady
AUL 3A
Carrigtwohill Utd v Pearse Celtic, Ballyadam Pk, L.Murphy

[Snooker]

not sure as that was the first time i saw them.they were ok for the first half but died in the second half. killumney were not great either .i would be safe to say that both of these wont be challeging for trophies this year. but who knows its early days yet and when things settle down maybe both teams will sign a few players

[moonman]

Any predictions for some upsets in the AOH the weeekend folks

[Poddagod]

Dunno if you'd call it an upset but Cloughduv to beat Donoughmore. But i'm a bit biased

[Kick-off]

Fairview v glen celtic is pick of aoh cup games this weekend tricky game but I fancy glen to win it 4-1 just have that bit over Fairview...

[Luckbox]

Prem A gone to an 8 team league, 21 league games, only 3 more than what it was supposed to be but a cup run or two could turn this season into a long one for sides in that division.

[killer"B"]

AUL NOTICE:
Please note:
Both AUL 3B and Premier A will be 3 round leagues this season.

[killer"B"]

CORK AUL FIXTURES
Friday 5th September Ko. 7.45pm
AUL 3A
City Wanderers v Carrigtwohill Utd, CIT Bishopstown, Finbar Murphy
Saturday 6th September Ko. 3.00pm
AOH Cup 1st Round
Castleview v Carrigaline Utd, O’Sullivan Pk, L.Buckley
Temple Utd v Central Rovers, Temple Pk, T.Cotter
Killumney Utd B v Waterloo C, Killeady, S.Madine
Corkbeg v Watergrasshill Utd, Whitgate, Christopher Braganza
Village Utd v Buttevant, Silverheights Pk, D.Cronin
Rathcoole Rovers v Macroom B, Rathcoole, B.Buckley
Carrigtwohill Utd A v St John Boscos C, Ballyadam Pk, Tony Thompson
Blarney St Ath v Knockraha, GACA Pitches, Brooklodge, Tony Murphy
FAIRVIEW V GLEN CELTIC A, FAIRFIELD, Pat Murphy(GAME OF THE DAY FOR ME)
Tower FC v Glenvale, Killowen, T.Collins
Greenmount Rangers v Leeview Ath, Murphys Farm, Finbar Murphy
Park Utd A v Waterloo A, Brigown, Paul O’Sullivan
CFC Banteer v Millstreet Celtic, Banteer Sports Field, Liam Murphy
Premier League
Coachford v Greenwood, The Glebe, G.Stephens
Pearse Cetic v Killumney Utd, Leaghanamore, E.Harte
AUL 1
Kanturk v Strand Utd, Kanturk, D.Deady
Rylane Celtic v Bohemians, Rylane, T.Mazur
AUL 1A
Richmond v St John Boscos A, Garrandarragh, Wilton, J.Walsh
AUL 2A
Glenthorn Celtic v Grangevale, Glenthorn Pk, Pat Hennessy
AUL 3B
Waterloo v Bweeng Celtic, Whitechurch Community Centre, H.McGovern
Strand Utd v Innishvilla, Ballyanley, P.O’Sullivan

[Horse24]

Prem A gone to an 8 team league, 21 league games, only 3 more than what it was supposed to be but a cup run or two could turn this season into a long one for sides in that division.

So definetly no Hibs or Hall? i thought Hibs had saved it?

[killer"B"]

So definetly no Hibs or Hall? i thought Hibs had saved it?
i tought the hall would have had more of chance over hibs . shame in all hall AOH finalist 2 years ago and hibs back to back doubles, aul loosing two great teams , does the aul need to be looked at with the amount of team folding in all section over the last very years its not good for our leauges....

[Sparks]

i tought the hall would have had more of chance over hibs . shame in all hall AOH finalist 2 years ago and hibs back to back doubles, aul loosing two great teams , does the aul need to be looked at with the amount of team folding in all section over the last very years its not good for our leauges....

The Hall didn't fold. They broke up the old AUL team too play with their 2 MSL Junior sides and in doing so have strengthed the Seniors as now they can step up too help them if needed where as when they were an AUL side they could not. I was told they looked into useing players from their youths and 19's too compete as the AUL side but complications with them then not being allowed too play for the MSL junior sides if needed led too The Hall scrapping the team. Best move for the club as a whole.
I think Leeds Balinhassig and Castleview will follow suit and move away from the AUL completely too the MSL in the future for the benifit of their Senior sides also but thats just my 2 cents

[Kick-off]

sparks it would be no harm if Everton had a aul team to strengthen their senior team:cool:

[Horse24]

The Hall didn't fold. They broke up the old AUL team too play with their 2 MSL Junior sides and in doing so have strengthed the Seniors as now they can step up too help them if needed where as when they were an AUL side they could not. I was told they looked into useing players from their youths and 19's too compete as the AUL side but complications with them then not being allowed too play for the MSL junior sides if needed led too The Hall scrapping the team. Best move for the club as a whole.
I think Leeds Balinhassig and Castleview will follow suit and move away from the AUL completely too the MSL in the future for the benifit of their Senior sides also but thats just my 2 cents
Cork doesn't need two junior leagues - neither is as strong as it should be.