View Full Version : Bohs in financial trouble - FAI Licencing called into question again?
The Lep
26/01/2011, 4:18 PM
There is a lot of rubbish posted on that forum .
Ooh, I killed the NLSA! Cool. Add that one to my CV.
Morons.
i think the fact that you were a Rovers fan is more galling myself.
:)
The Lep
26/01/2011, 6:58 PM
The post you agreed with Sku on there wasnt nice now was it. Tut tut and all that etc etc.
Its sad when someone has to start a thread about a poster from diffrent board on their own board just because that poster might not have agreed with a Bohs fan on here.
It's a shame we just can't fold the club and start afresh the next day with the promise of a council built stadium.
I would've much rather the FAI gave us our own ground for an old pound rather than have to pay 50k rent to the council.
Spudulika
27/01/2011, 8:47 AM
I would've much rather the FAI gave us our own ground for an old pound rather than have to pay 50k rent to the council.
And still not have a lease :-)
sligoman
27/01/2011, 7:29 PM
From Daniel McDonnell's twitter:
Hearing Bohs deal really is in trouble. Delaney in Drogheda tonight and may be able to provide clarity. Apparently he's unhappy with Bohs.
about 1 hour ago
That said, I still find it hard to believe it could collapse. Surely they can find a workable arrangement.
about 1 hour ago
Hearing from @RuaidhriOC in Drogheda that Delaney wouldn't speak, but Fran Gavin did and was more positive so...we shall see what develops.
22 minutes ago
And still not have a lease :-)
We have but not as long as one would like. I always laugh at the irony from Bohs fans on the 'they got a free ground off the council' etc etc, they either don't know their own clubs' history or are just idiots.
The Lep
27/01/2011, 8:51 PM
Am i right in saying that Bohs wont pay off all the players until they get a licence ?
poster
27/01/2011, 8:52 PM
Ooh, I killed the NLSA!
http://www.nlsa.com/
Wow...you are a powerful man Stu.
Am i right in saying that Bohs wont pay off all the players until they get a licence ?
Seems to be rumours circulating that the deal has hit another snag with the players owed money. Maybe a Bohs fan can update the masses?
shock horror - negotiations hit snags! Who'd a thunk it.
The Lep
27/01/2011, 9:21 PM
Is that shock horror snag Bohs not paying off unless they get a licence?
The Lep
27/01/2011, 9:22 PM
We have but not as long as one would like. I always laugh at the irony from Bohs fans on the 'they got a free ground off the council' etc etc, they either don't know their own clubs' history or are just idiots.
I think they know their own history :)
John83
27/01/2011, 9:34 PM
We have but not as long as one would like. I always laugh at the irony from Bohs fans on the 'they got a free ground off the council' etc etc, they either don't know their own clubs' history or are just idiots.
Why can't it be both?
Lim till i die
28/01/2011, 12:17 AM
To give the man his due I reckon Delaney has pulled a stroke and a half here! :)
STATEMENT OF STUART GILHOOLY, SOLICITOR ON BEHALF OF BRIAN SHELLEY AND STEVEN GRAY
I am happy to confirm that all issues between Brian Shelley, Steven Gray and Bohemians Football Club have been resolved. The players have reached agreement for termination of their contracts and these details will remain confidential. The winding up petition will now be struck out.
The players would like to record their disappointment at how the matter was handled by the board and the length of time that they were left without any payment.
They are, however, pleased to put the matter behind them and would like to wish the fans of the club well for the future. They are both now seeking employment elsewhere.
Bohemians Football Club.
Idiot. ;)
FAI firmly deny they are giving Bohs financial aid
By Aidan Fitzmaurice
Friday January 28 2011
THE FAI have insisted that they are not offering financial assistance to Bohemians in the club's bid to survive for next season by cutting a deal with their players....
http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/fai-firmly-deny-they-are-giving-bohs-financial-aid-2515058.html?
this might silence the "FAI bail out Bohs" crap ive had to read here.
sundance kid
28/01/2011, 7:01 PM
Might also dispel the nonsense we got from Bohs that they could only do a deal with all the players together. Might have saved themselves all the bad publicity, and threats of being wound up if they just did the decent thing in the beginning. I presume Oman is the one holding out now?
pineapple stu
31/01/2011, 8:57 AM
http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/fai-firmly-deny-they-are-giving-bohs-financial-aid-2515058.html?
this might silence the "FAI bail out Bohs" crap ive had to read here.
Cos of course the FAI would come out with a press release saying "FAI give Bohs lots of money to tide them over"?
And the journalist is hardly impartial either.
marinobohs
31/01/2011, 9:54 AM
Cos of course the FAI would come out with a press release saying "FAI give Bohs lots of money to tide them over"?
And the journalist is hardly impartial either.
Yes of course, hardly an impartial source like your good self Stu :rolleyes:, remind us where those "broken promises by Bohs board " were again ?
Interesting that in the interview Shelley did over the wweekend he confirmed Bohs always maintained they would be paying off players at the end of January, perhaps he does not qualify as an "impartial" source either ?
hoopy
31/01/2011, 10:14 AM
Can't we all just be happy is sorted!
sundance kid
31/01/2011, 10:42 AM
Any explanation yet as to how Bohs were able to do a deal with the 2 lads, after we were all told that they could only do a deal with all the players together or none at all?
Does anyone seiously believe that the FAI haven't paid off Shelley and Gray, and will recoup it from whats left of their prize money from last season?
Ezeikial
31/01/2011, 11:35 AM
Anyone know where it is at on deals with the remaining players?
I'm hearing that the Bohs 2 of Shelley and Grey are now being replaced by another Bohs 2 (MARK 2) who are still refusing the pay-off deal being offered. One wants to stay and see out his (current) contract, while the other is being obstinant over how he perceives he has been treated.
Isn't today the final, final day fro deals to be done for the purposes of licensing?
Dodge
31/01/2011, 11:38 AM
There's no such thing as final, final in terms of licensing.
marinobohs
31/01/2011, 11:55 AM
Any explanation yet as to how Bohs were able to do a deal with the 2 lads, after we were all told that they could only do a deal with all the players together or none at all?
Does anyone seiously believe that the FAI haven't paid off Shelley and Gray, and will recoup it from whats left of their prize money from last season?
Collective deal was brokered within end of January timeframe. Ask mc Guinness why his member(s) may/may not have broken ranks on deal.
Any proof RE FAI pay off or is it just usual dreamed up rubbish ? genuine question by the way SK.
sundance kid
31/01/2011, 12:05 PM
No, no proof, just a belief. And one that i'd say most people share. An article from fitzmaurice, or even a quote from delaney isn't exactly proof either, given the way delaney has become expert at "political answers", and fitzmaurices allegiances.
Just seems very odd that one minute its a deal for all, or a deal for none, then 2 players get paid, while other players are holding out, and some are stuck in the middle. I guess we'll never get a satisfactory answer to that though because if as i supsect the FAI have got financially involved, it'd open too big a can of worms for it to become public at this stage. Maybe delaney will confess all on his death bed.
Schumi
31/01/2011, 12:20 PM
Isn't today the final, final day fro deals to be done for the purposes of licensing?
Yeah but it's the final, final, final, final day that matters.
Town Legend
31/01/2011, 12:35 PM
What happens Bohs now? Huge point deduction or relegation????
Longfordian
31/01/2011, 12:37 PM
What happens Bohs now? Huge point deduction or relegation????
Feck all more than likely. Keep their Premier and Euro spots but operate on a "reduced budget".
horton
31/01/2011, 12:40 PM
Shouldn't be hard getting a pint now with all the barmen Bohs will have now!
sundance kid
31/01/2011, 12:40 PM
I suspect that nothing will happen to bohs. Their deal to buy out the players contracts is dependent on bohs getting a premier licence, so i don't see the league letting Bohs make the players redundant.
Dodge
31/01/2011, 12:45 PM
Collective deal was brokered within end of January timeframe. Ask mc Guinness why his member(s) may/may not have broken ranks on deal.
Any proof RE FAI pay off or is it just usual dreamed up rubbish ? genuine question by the way SK.
Any proof re deal that was brokered?
i think it is incumbent on those making allegations against reported facts to provide some concrete proof or else shut the hell up to be honest.
Jicked
31/01/2011, 3:40 PM
It's pretty natural for people to be curious about how such a turnaround was reached, if the FAI weren't involved. No-one expects to receive exact figures or details, but usually in this sort of situations you here rumblings of what actually went on, the only one of those, and the only explanation anyone can think of is FAI involvement.
thats great and all Jicked - what is being alleged is not beyond the realms of possibility despite the fact that there are so many answers to the questions that have been posed.
All im saying is, Dodge shouldnt be demanding proof of the deal that was done. It should be proven by those making the allegations as being different to what has been reported. Thats all.
The FAI were clearly involved in making the deal happen, i dont think that is in dispute. Whether they are financially involved or not is clearly in dispute and the rumours all started from a twitter remark and yet have taken a life of their own here and are now considered fact. Its all a bit ridiculous if you ask me.
What if some poster came on and said that Carlisle definitely hadnt signed Paddy Madden? Or what if Daniel McDonnell tweeted that? Who would the posters believe? The numerous articles in the press or the flimsy unsubstantiated allegation. A little bit of consistency from this forum would be nice.
sundance kid
31/01/2011, 5:05 PM
i think it is incumbent on those making allegations against reported facts to provide some concrete proof or else shut the hell up to be honest.
Wasn't more than a week ago you were making totally unfounded allegations about the chairman of the PFAI being the architect behind this whole issue, so maybe practising what you preach might be in order
Charlie Darwin
31/01/2011, 5:19 PM
i think it is incumbent on those making allegations against reported facts to provide some concrete proof or else shut the hell up to be honest.
Who's saying the reported story isn't true? Besides, people are entitled to speculate - if you didn't have the emotional investment in the club that you do you'd be speculating too.
Wasn't more than a week ago you were making totally unfounded allegations about the chairman of the PFAI being the architect behind this whole issue, so maybe practising what you preach might be in order
yeah. But i was shouted down in minutes and eventually i shut the hell up. I dont see that happening here. Instead we have people calling for proof of the deal as reported in the media.
Who's saying the reported story isn't true? Besides, people are entitled to speculate - if you didn't have the emotional investment in the club that you do you'd be speculating too.
Plenty are saying it CD. I dont have a problem with speculation as long as it is not presented as fact or doesnt lead to being accepted as fact. I also dont think that a poster should be challenged to provide evidence of the deal that was done to prove that it was in line with what has been reported in various media outlets. If people are going to present or claim that something other than what was reported was done then they should be the ones to produce evidence or shut the hell up. I dont think that is an unreasonable position to take.
Charlie Darwin
31/01/2011, 6:04 PM
It's unreasonable when you tell people to "shut the hell up" - it's unusually aggressive.
higgins
31/01/2011, 6:04 PM
What happens Bohs now? Huge point deduction or relegation????
Well considering Shels were demoted for deferring wage payments (and later paying all players in full, most less than 10 weeks after the end of the season and all with agreements in place before licencing decisions were made)
I'd imagine nothing will happen to Bohs!
The independent licence committee will find no wrong doing of course.
Same way other clubs since 2006 have been able to reduce or delay players pay weeks into a season having just signed them and no punishment was handed down.
Of course there was no Budgets submitted to licencing or SCP in place in 2006 when Shels were demoted so that is probably more reason for nothing to happen to Bohs :confused: I'm sure Bohs submitted a budget that had the final weeks of the year with zero payments to players? and I suppose they are well under the 60% SCP considering all the major groundwork that they have been doing with Dalymount
Crazy League :rolleyes:
It's unreasonable when you tell people to "shut the hell up" - it's unusually aggressive.
really? I didnt direct it at anyone. Ive also seen it typed on here many times - usually by DaHamsta and in the context i used it. Ive never taken any offence to it. I never found it unusually agressive.
Maybe if i change it to "refrain from saying anything at all", you could recover enough from the shock of it to actually try and make a relevant point.
Charlie Darwin
31/01/2011, 6:46 PM
haha OK it's not a massive deal, I'm just saying people are going to idly speculate despite your protestation and insider info.
Spudulika
31/01/2011, 7:06 PM
I can feel a Late Late moment - "retract, retract I tell thee"
Ezeikial
31/01/2011, 7:06 PM
Much ado about nothing. Media report a Delaney / Gavin peddled line and some on here raise an eybrow questioning its veracity.
Pretty normal I would say, given the FAI's poor credibility.
sundance kid
31/01/2011, 8:33 PM
Much ado about nothing. Media report a Delaney / Gavin peddled line and some on here raise an eybrow questioning its veracity.
Pretty normal I would say, given the FAI's poor credibility.
Exactly, a few people have the audacity not to accept as fact a media report from an organisation with no credibility, and we're told to "shut the hell up". Disgraceful carry on.
And if what higgins says above is true, (and i've no reason to doubt him), about how shels dealt with their issues, and still got relegated, it'll make an even bigger mockery of the league if this issue isn't dealt with in a similar way. But i suppose bohs having a gun to the FAIs head regarding the contract payoffs, that may or may not happen, depending on how their licence application goes, will probably be the deciding factor.
Exactly, a few people have the audacity not to accept as fact a media report from an organisation with no credibility, and we're told to "shut the hell up". Disgraceful carry on.
Drama queen - get over yourself. Not really what i said either if you are being accurate - more a case of "put up or shut the hell up". Nothing wrong with that.
sundance kid
31/01/2011, 9:00 PM
Ah, name calling. I didn't expect you to sink so low, so fast.
I read in various media outlets last weekend that brian shelley would have withdrawn his winding up order if it came down to it. Would you accept that as the truth?
i didnt expect you to resort to amateur dramatics so quickly either sk.
Sure. I accept it as his version of the truth considering it was a direct quote from him.
Buile Shuibhne
01/02/2011, 7:34 AM
“I’m very close to that,” added Fenlon when asked was he at the end of his tether and would he, indeed, quit. “I want to make sure all the players are sorted out and that’s resolved. There are people at the club due wages outside of the playing side.
“It would be very difficult for me to go and sign players while that situation remains. It’s not fair on anybody to do that. When all that is sorted, I’ll make a decision on what I want to do then.”
Bohemians secretary Denis Maher confirmed the club hadn’t been in a position to sign players until the contract/severance issues are resolved.
“You can sign players up to 24 hours before the game. Now we must work to get a squad of players together,” said Maher.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0201/1224288693596.html
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