View Full Version : Bohs in financial trouble - FAI Licencing called into question again?
The Lep
15/01/2011, 8:35 PM
Tullamore :)
SwanVsDalton
15/01/2011, 9:15 PM
Tullamore :)
Just me or is the thread taking a Twin Peaks-esque surreal twist?
micls
16/01/2011, 10:04 AM
If these two conditions must both be met for these funds to be used, then it appears that the granting of the PD licence must be assured or granted concurrent with players being paid off.
If Bohs are actually taking that line with the FAI / ILC and are making PD licence a requirement for honouring/settling contracts, then the licence application should be rejected out of hand
The players will have to sign off on it. If they do then that particular licencing aspect and the FAi can't really complain about it.
Bohs will blackmail the players. Accept this deal and sign here before the deadline or we won't get a premier licence and we'll make ye redundant, getting very little.
It's a game of chicken.
Spudulika
16/01/2011, 11:05 AM
The players will have to sign off on it. If they do then that particular licencing aspect and the FAi can't really complain about it.
Bohs will blackmail the players. Accept this deal and sign here before the deadline or we won't get a premier licence and we'll make ye redundant, getting very little.
It's a game of chicken.
It's Cork all over again. And how many clubs before it. I'm getting tired of LOI brinkmanship.
D.24saint
16/01/2011, 11:12 AM
It's Cork all over again. And how many clubs before it. I'm getting tired of LOI brinkmanship.
It sadly is in the tapestry of the league every year there is some club on the brink,not paying taxes,not paying players,dual contracts its sad as it just makes a mockery out of us all for following the league and it gives the hacks back page doom and gloom story's that they relish.The sooner the better this bohs story goes away and we can get onto discussing football matters and not company management for the insane.
Spudulika
16/01/2011, 12:09 PM
This morning I'd coffee with a friend who works for an ice hockey club (marketing) and he asked me about the LOI. Since we met, 2 years ago, he's become interested in Irish football (he went over for the international match) and it's fed into his love of all things Irish. He watches MNS almost weekly and he follows, well, I won't mention who he follows as it's a bit shameful. Anyway, he asked why each year since he started following (2 years) the LOI some club has gone or been on the brink. He told me how they've borrowed the NHL model for clubs in the KHL and how they've been very strict on finance and administration. Yet we see again a scramble for genuine fans of the club to rescue it, as happened in Drogheda and Dundalk before, and yet it will all boil down to somebody not being paid and another stain on the league and domestic football. I cannot solely blame the FAI, as club administrators are weak at the best of times, but there has to be a change!
With all these contacts you have and meetings you have about the league, I'm starting to think you're the sole reason its in the state it is Spud.
Maybe take a step back and see if it improves?
The players will have to sign off on it. If they do then that particular licencing aspect and the FAi can't really complain about it.
Bohs will blackmail the players. Accept this deal and sign here before the deadline or we won't get a premier licence and we'll make ye redundant, getting very little.
It's a game of chicken.
spot on micls but there is another angle to it.
The players are playing a game too. A lot of them have deals done with clubs to join and play with for next season. They are holding on and holding on waiting for the Bohs pay-off and will officially sign for their other clubs as soon as they get it. Which is their right however morally questionable. As we also have the right to play chicken however morally questionable.
It sadly is in the tapestry of the league every year there is some club on the brink,not paying taxes,not paying players,dual contracts its sad as it just makes a mockery out of us all for following the league and it gives the hacks back page doom and gloom story's that they relish.The sooner the better this bohs story goes away and we can get onto discussing football matters and not company management for the insane.
i agree. And regret that Bohs are involved this time round. The sad thing is it appears there is still more lunacy to come due to other clubs. We're just the latest.
This morning I'd coffee with a friend who works for an ice hockey club (marketing) and he asked me about the LOI. Since we met, 2 years ago, he's become interested in Irish football (he went over for the international match) and it's fed into his love of all things Irish. He watches MNS almost weekly and he follows, well, I won't mention who he follows as it's a bit shameful. Anyway, he asked why each year since he started following (2 years) the LOI some club has gone or been on the brink. He told me how they've borrowed the NHL model for clubs in the KHL and how they've been very strict on finance and administration. Yet we see again a scramble for genuine fans of the club to rescue it, as happened in Drogheda and Dundalk before, and yet it will all boil down to somebody not being paid and another stain on the league and domestic football. I cannot solely blame the FAI, as club administrators are weak at the best of times, but there has to be a change!
i hope you told them about the clubs that folded in Scotland, England and numerous other clubs in leagues around Europe. And the dozens of other clubs that are in major financial trouble across Europe. People need to stop apologising for the League. It has its problems for sure but so does every other league in Europe. I also hope you pointed out the massive differences between organised sport in North America and football in Ireland and Europe.
Spudulika
16/01/2011, 6:09 PM
SkStu, you'd know as well as anyone how it works in other countries, and here it's the same. Clubs come and go, reform and there's nothing about it. I think we all look at the LOI too closely and get too caught up in it all, but when you look at it like a business it just is how the game works - companies come and go, some stay longer, some have to be overhauled, some let go and others just muddle their way through. In sports, especially in Ireland and the UK, we see club mergers as an anathema, yet it is normal business practice and clubs do it all the time in Europe. He's working in the KHL which runs like the NHL, WHL, OHL and so on, so it's more based on a business plan and survival of the fittest. I remember when I was living in Canada and a news report on TSN about how the Argo's were going to go bust and where I lived the Senators removed their farm team because they had a better offer from another city. You know, at the end of it I simply told him, without the fans, clubs are nothing - it's something people here won't get as it's a different culture.
Dodge, in 2000 I gave up trying to figure out the LOI when I handed my own club a golden ticket only for the then incumbent to say "we've a different plan", which was to run the club into the ground. And in 2004 I was coaxed into looking at Shels, only to see the horror show unfolding and politely declined. But for some reason, which maybe you feel, the league is a drug and no matter what it's something to fight for and enjoy. Otherwise we'd have all given up long ago. So no matter if I stay or go, clubs and "fans" will still do their utmost to make it fun.
redobit
16/01/2011, 10:56 PM
Whats your point!
Dodge
17/01/2011, 12:25 AM
Dodge, in 2000 I gave up trying to figure out the LOI when I handed my own club a golden ticket only for the then incumbent to say "we've a different plan", which was to run the club into the ground. And in 2004 I was coaxed into looking at Shels, only to see the horror show unfolding and politely declined. But for some reason, which maybe you feel, the league is a drug and no matter what it's something to fight for and enjoy. Otherwise we'd have all given up long ago. So no matter if I stay or go, clubs and "fans" will still do their utmost to make it fun.
See!? in 1999 Pats won the league. And its been downhill every since. Jinx!!!!
Seriosuly though, if you're that well connected, and that much involved with various clubs, you have to be culpable to some degree
Spudulika
17/01/2011, 5:39 AM
See!? in 1999 Pats won the league. And its been downhill every since. Jinx!!!!
Seriosuly though, if you're that well connected, and that much involved with various clubs, you have to be culpable to some degree
While wumming sounds like fun, it's more the point that it simply remains to say that business is cyclical, since football is business it falls into that character, so clubs rise anf fall, come and go and without the FAI and grassroots combining the LOI will be boom bust (minor). While Pats problems will always remain.
SwanVsDalton
19/01/2011, 11:09 AM
Shelley and Grey to hold press conference on Friday. (http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2011/0119/bohemians.html)
marinobohs
19/01/2011, 11:52 AM
Shelley and Grey to hold press conference on Friday. (http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2011/0119/bohemians.html)
Originally scheduled for last Monday, deferred to Wednesday and now Friday. Not sure of point of press conference, especially as they sought anonimity in the first place. Not sure how two whining footballers about to move abroad outlining their tale of woe is going to help their case.
Spudulika
19/01/2011, 12:24 PM
If they'd held it in the first place then maybe matters would be more straightforward, but that's probably a legal matter. Taking off the blinkers Marinobohs, I would hate to see how you'd react to going 2 months unpaid. Having felt it, it's not nice.
Dodge
19/01/2011, 12:46 PM
Not sure of point of press conference, especially as they sought anonimity in the first place.
They're touting the fact that other players in the same situation will be there 'for support' That in itself is interesting enough
Jicked
19/01/2011, 1:51 PM
If they'd held it in the first place then maybe matters would be more straightforward, but that's probably a legal matter. Taking off the blinkers Marinobohs, I would hate to see how you'd react to going 2 months unpaid. Having felt it, it's not nice.
Let's not forget it's not just this one non-payment, they also had a pay-cut forced on them to presumably prevent exactly this exact situation
marinobohs
19/01/2011, 2:32 PM
They're touting the fact that other players in the same situation will be there 'for support' That in itself is interesting enough
Another report said they would be accompanied by Mc Guinness and their legal rep, Dodge (although it will be interesting to see who attends). No problem with them having a press conference or the fact they are entitled to seek club honours contracts but Gray has been paid for almost a full season while injured - generous sick pay terms by normal business standards. Both are seeking payment for post season period - a time when very few LOI players are ever paid and in normal employment statutory redundancy rules/entitlements would apply (players are siting normal business rules).
Dont see the purpose of the press conference or its purpose. Anyone likely to care already has their mind made up and anyone else is unlikely to bother either way (cant see an ICTU march in support of them)
Jicked, do you really see a groundswell of support out there for two football players whining about a pay cut ?
None of this is to abdicate the responsibility of Bohs in this mess and the responsibility on clubs/players to honour contracts (unless your name is Fenn of course:rolleyes:) or the hope that it can be resolved amicably with all players i just fail to see how the proposed press conference is going to help the situation. Who knows ? I might be pleasently surprised on Friday (but not holding breath)
John83
19/01/2011, 2:34 PM
Jicked, do you really see a groundswell of support out there for two football players whining about a pay cut ?
Pay cut? Do you work for Brian Lenihan?
alright, now that marinobohs and myself have charmed the knickers off you all over the last 44 pages, who fancies pledging their support to one of the Leagues oldest and finest clubs? I hope some of you will attend what promises to be a most excellent and entertaining night for a really good price and for a worthy cause. I also offer the posters of foot.ie the following - i will put the first FIVE posters that email me confirmation of purchase into a draw for ONE additional ticket that i will pay for out of my own pocket. (i will check if my email address is visible on my profile, if not i will repost here if thats okay).
http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy164/bohsmatchposters/OlympiaPoster01.png
Brush Shiels? Seriously?
**Shudder**
Buile Shuibhne
19/01/2011, 3:09 PM
Shelley and Grey to hold press conference on Friday. (http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2011/0119/bohemians.html)
It's been postponed til Friday because of a death in the Cretaro family and to allow other players attend.
John83
19/01/2011, 3:09 PM
The show will suddenly end shortly before the first intermission when Bohs run out of comedians, and anyone looking for a refund will be accused of greed.
Brush Shiels? Seriously?
**Shudder**
sorry, Arcade Fire were booked up.
The show will suddenly end shortly before the first intermission when Bohs run out of comedians, and anyone looking for a refund will be accused of greed.
http://communities.sportsnet.ca/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-599118-4266/badum.jpg
Jicked, do you really see a groundswell of support out there for two football players whining about a pay cut ?
Seriously, whats that got to do with anything?
marinobohs
19/01/2011, 3:23 PM
Seriously, whats that got to do with anything?
Dodge, was in response to Jicked raising point (about previous pay cut) and that I dont see any merit in the press conference idea by the players.
Jicked
19/01/2011, 3:46 PM
Originally Posted by marinobohs
Jicked, do you really see a groundswell of support out there for two football players whining about a pay cut ?
I still don't really see what you're getting at to be honest, but to be fair, yeah I do imagine public opinion would back the players on this one. Not just rival LoI fans, but if you were to objectively show the facts to a bloke on a bus he probably would as well.
Signed a big deal with Bohs (a few years ago in Shelly's case potentially turning down deals at other clubs, Gray we know turned down signing with Rovers where for arguments sake he could still be today being paid quite well).
The money they were promised in that deal didn't materialise, the club weren't able to pay the money they promised them.
Players take a pay-cut, but still rally to perform well in all domestic competitions, almost coming back from the dead in the League despite this situation being on the horizon the whole time.
They are then told that despite taking a pay cut, the deals for next year won't be honoured, leaving them unemployed.
They seek a compensatory pay-off, as is standard, and are told they will only be offered x weeks (I can't remember off the top of my head). As these negotiations are ongoing the club, who want to convince them they have money to pay them off, stop paying them there weekly wage.
This goes on for a month, players threaten the only action they can (not being able to strike or work-to-rule) and the club promises them money will be available in early-mid January. We're now approaching the tail end of January, the players haven't been paid in two months, and the club seems no closer to being able to pay the money they had promised for January.
I'm not being smart or trying to twist the knife, but objectively speaking that's a pretty damning state of affairs. I know how much a situation like this hurts having been through it with Rovers not so long ago, but suggesting the players are morally wrong is just ridiculous and getting Bohs nowhere in terms of getting out of this hole. To be honest, I always thought Bohs would come through this (which is what I wanted, a struggling Bohs team in the PD, being forced to live within their means in the future) but the way the club and fans have acted over the last few weeks leaves me highly doubtful they will now.
HulaHoop
19/01/2011, 4:08 PM
Signed a big deal with Bohs (a few years ago in Shelly's case potentially turning down deals at other clubs, Gray we know turned down signing with Rovers where for arguments sake he could still be today being paid quite well).
You see this is what bohs fans forget in their moral outrage against the two players. Two years ago shelley was offered a contract by MON but turned it down in favour of Bohs contract offer. 12 months ago Grey was offered a contract by Rovers but Bohs offered him a bit more so he took that. In both cases Rovers offered them what was sustainable but Bohs gave them more than they could afford. Now all of a sudden Bohd cant pay them the terms they outbid other clubs on yet it's all the players fault. Cop on Bohs fans vent your anger at those in charge of your club not the players you fooled into signing for you on false pretences.
sligoman
19/01/2011, 4:15 PM
alright, now that marinobohs and myself have charmed the knickers off you all over the last 44 pages, who fancies pledging their support to one of the Leagues oldest and finest clubs? I hope some of you will attend what promises to be a most excellent and entertaining night for a really good price and for a worthy cause. I also offer the posters of foot.ie the following - i will put the first FIVE posters that email me confirmation of purchase into a draw for ONE additional ticket that i will pay for out of my own pocket. (i will check if my email address is visible on my profile, if not i will repost here if thats okay).Why is Ardal O'Hanlon crossed out in the poster? Bohs No.1 fan Johnny Logan not available either?
Brush Shiels is a Rovers fan :p
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marinobohs
19/01/2011, 4:21 PM
You see this is what bohs fans forget in their moral outrage against the two players. Two years ago shelley was offered a contract by MON but turned it down in favour of Bohs contract offer. 12 months ago Grey was offered a contract by Rovers but Bohs offered him a bit more so he took that. In both cases Rovers offered them what was sustainable but Bohs gave them more than they could afford. Now all of a sudden Bohd cant pay them the terms they outbid other clubs on yet it's all the players fault. Cop on Bohs fans vent your anger at those in charge of your club not the players you fooled into signing for you on false pretences.
just as what some shams fans forget is that if we could walk away from our debt....... pointless cyclical argument really. Brian Shelley played for a period at Shams without getting paid at all were they penalised for this ? No. Similar happened at Shels, Cork Drogheda etc to other players
As I stated earlier I have no problem with them seeking to have their contract(s) honoured i just think that a press conference is not likely to generate too much sympathy/support especially if Bohs previous (good) treatment of players is highlighted. the fact that we are seeking to reach settlement with the players on outstanding monies is more than most clubs have done historically.
Dont think anybody has said it is all the players fault in fact on the contrary, but open to correction if you can point out where. Doubt Bohs fans are any more/less objective on this one than shams fans are so wont be going there.
Actually looking forward now to press conference on friday, it will be interesting to see what the lads have to say.
hopefully we can get some of the foot.ie tools to go... I think I will pass on your offer Stu..;)
i am one of those tools too Dunny!
Jicked
19/01/2011, 4:43 PM
just as what some shams fans forget is that if we could walk away from our debt....... pointless cyclical argument really. Brian Shelley played for a period at Shams without getting paid at all were they penalised for this ? No. Similar happened at Shels, Cork Drogheda etc to other players
As I stated earlier I have no problem with them seeking to have their contract(s) honoured i just think that a press conference is not likely to generate too much sympathy/support especially if Bohs previous (good) treatment of players is highlighted. the fact that we are seeking to reach settlement with the players on outstanding monies is more than most clubs have done historically.
Dont think anybody has said it is all the players fault in fact on the contrary, but open to correction if you can point out where. Doubt Bohs fans are any more/less objective on this one than shams fans are so wont be going there.
Actually looking forward now to press conference on friday, it will be interesting to see what the lads have to say.
I think it just boils down to a difference of opinion on what is treating players well. As a Bohs fan perhaps you see the club as doing right by them in the past, but I think most neutrals would see that being persuaded to sign for Bohs because of a bigger wage, then having to take a paycut, then being let go at a terrible time to be looking for a club, then not being paid, then being promised to be paid, then being told the money is there but wont be paid, will see that the players are understandably at the end of the line with the Bohs board and have had enough.
When we were going down the swanny it was bloody awful, but we didn't start blaming a dry-cleaners, start trying to drum up support for rival dry-cleaners or lobby environmental agencies about the dangers of dry-cleaning. Nor did we look to re-employ Shelley, Pat McCourt and the other guys who were in our squad with contracts for a new year. We were f*cked, and started doing everything we could to find any way to survive. With Bohs keeping Fenlon around, giving press releases about applying for PD licencs, talking about re-signing some of last years squad, rumours about adding Glen Crowe instead of anyone who looked handy enough in a 5 a side game, it looks like Bohs are still missing the point. In such a situation, I really don't think you'll see many people think the players aren't justified in what they are doing.
Brian Shelley might be emigrating over this, who's Barry Murphy, Ken Oman, Raf Cretaro going to be playing for next year as all this drags on in to what is now pre-season? The players have had a very raw deal here, and Bohs fans seeing them shopping Dundrum and threatening them online doesn't change that. The players really are justified in the action they take.
SwanVsDalton
19/01/2011, 6:19 PM
alright, now that marinobohs and myself have charmed the knickers off you all over the last 44 pages, who fancies pledging their support to one of the Leagues oldest and finest clubs? I hope some of you will attend what promises to be a most excellent and entertaining night for a really good price and for a worthy cause. I also offer the posters of foot.ie the following - i will put the first FIVE posters that email me confirmation of purchase into a draw for ONE additional ticket that i will pay for out of my own pocket. (i will check if my email address is visible on my profile, if not i will repost here if thats okay).
Seems a bit too....fun and interesting. And not even a Nobel prize winner in sight. Could ye's not have just arrange a pointless friendly against Celtic reserves or Man Utd kids?
The Lep
19/01/2011, 6:42 PM
Good to know what you really think of foot.ie skstu
no, its what i think of some users. They probably know who they are. Big difference Lep. Are you going to come?
superjohnny
19/01/2011, 7:23 PM
Post Deleted: Go and find some u-14s message board that might appreciate this humour.
placid casual
19/01/2011, 8:26 PM
bit of a non sequitur here but....
2 restaurants(mermaid & gruel) within spitting distance of the olympia have just closed down because.......they didnt pay their staff.. hmm interesting eh..:doh:
Christ i wish the season would hurry and start.
Cant wait for the new season. I'm full of innocent hope and expectation.:jump:
Anyone else excited about the new season ahead ?
Charlie Darwin
19/01/2011, 8:41 PM
Gruel and Mermaid closed because they were paying the ridiculous sum of 200k a year in rent and couldn't negotiate a reduction. As far as I know their staff have all been paid.
D.24saint
19/01/2011, 9:10 PM
Gruel and Mermaid closed because they were paying the ridiculous sum of 200k a year in rent and couldn't negotiate a reduction. As far as I know their staff have all been paid.
this thread is going off in mad tangents I would advise the address below for such inane foodie chatter.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=35
Charlie Darwin
19/01/2011, 10:11 PM
It's hardly a tangent - placid was attempting to draw a comparison between an ailing business that shut down and another ailing business that may yet shut down and happens to be the subject of this thread. I just corrected him on the details.
SwanVsDalton
19/01/2011, 10:38 PM
It's hardly a tangent - placid was attempting to draw a comparison between an ailing business that shut down and another ailing business that may yet shut down and happens to be the subject of this thread. I just corrected him on the details.
Now THIS is going on a tangent....
MariborKev
19/01/2011, 10:47 PM
I would imagine that Gray went legal early as he has previous experience of being left waiting at Derry last year.
The Lep
20/01/2011, 5:28 AM
no, its what i think of some users. They probably know who they are. Big difference Lep. Are you going to come?
It doesnt say "Some users " ;) I was going to say something else but looking at superjohnny's post it could have already been posted and removed :)
I wont be there as the line up is not my thing. Now if you had some decent Oi! music in the Bohs bar then i could have gone to that but it looks like i will contribute to Bohs finances through attending all of our home games and partaking of the fine facilities on offer. If the Bohs fans that cant make the Bohs away games would like to join me in fundraising in this manner then it would go a long way to help Bohemian fc.
marinobohs
20/01/2011, 9:05 AM
I think it just boils down to a difference of opinion on what is treating players well. As a Bohs fan perhaps you see the club as doing right by them in the past, but I think most neutrals would see that being persuaded to sign for Bohs because of a bigger wage, then having to take a paycut, then being let go at a terrible time to be looking for a club, then not being paid, then being promised to be paid, then being told the money is there but wont be paid, will see that the players are understandably at the end of the line with the Bohs board and have had enough.
When we were going down the swanny it was bloody awful, but we didn't start blaming a dry-cleaners, start trying to drum up support for rival dry-cleaners or lobby environmental agencies about the dangers of dry-cleaning. Nor did we look to re-employ Shelley, Pat McCourt and the other guys who were in our squad with contracts for a new year. We were f*cked, and started doing everything we could to find any way to survive. With Bohs keeping Fenlon around, giving press releases about applying for PD licencs, talking about re-signing some of last years squad, rumours about adding Glen Crowe instead of anyone who looked handy enough in a 5 a side game, it looks like Bohs are still missing the point. In such a situation, I really don't think you'll see many people think the players aren't justified in what they are doing.
Brian Shelley might be emigrating over this, who's Barry Murphy, Ken Oman, Raf Cretaro going to be playing for next year as all this drags on in to what is now pre-season? The players have had a very raw deal here, and Bohs fans seeing them shopping Dundrum and threatening them online doesn't change that. The players really are justified in the action they take.
Jicked, Mc Guinness (PFAI rep) is previously on record as stating that Bohs were one of the better teams with regard to looking after players. Even in current difficult situation contracts have been offered to players that were injured most of last season (including Gray, ironically enough) as they would struggle to find clubs.
I can assure you that Bohs will be offering no new full time contracts this year (rumours or not) any players kept on will be on very diminished contracts 9cmpared to last year) and EVERY player has been offered the oppurtunity to find a new club - since the season ended - so there is no question of Bohs "blocking" players moving to new clubs.
As regards the nonsence of persuading players to sign on false pretences line, tell me any LOI club that has not encountered difficulties in honouring contracts at one time or other ? UCD about the only one that spring to mind. Are they all mistreating players, including your own ? now your club has money are they seeking to retrospectively pay off players that were previously left short ?
As I said before I fully agree that Shelley/ Gray are legally within their rights to take the action they are. Do I think they are morally right to seek to close down a club that is 120 years old and actively seeking to reach an accomadation with them over payment for next season (when I understand they will be in Australia) ? sorry, no.
Interesting that the players you are so concerned about Murphy, Oman, Cretaro have not seen the need to take this route - despite, no doubt disappointment (and probobly anger) at what has occured.
Finally, (I hope) nobody has blamed the players for this situation and I will reiterate again that the club is primarily responsible for this whole mess but two wrongs dont make a right and the oppurtunist action taken by two players seeking a quick payout before emigrating is not something to admire irrespective of the club concerned.
Even in current difficult situation contracts have been offered to players that were injured most of last season (including Gray, ironically enough) as they would struggle to find clubs.
1) Do you honestly believe that Bohs offered contracts to players "as they would struggle to find clubs"?
2) If you do believe that, do you not think thats as stupid a move as any club has ever made?
hoops1
20/01/2011, 11:09 AM
The real trouble for Bohs is coming down the tracks. The brains on the board have figured that they will survive this crisis. Now if they are a mickey mouse first division team getting beaten every week they will never drum up support to overcome the problems on the way. If they are a mickey mouse premier divison team as they have always been there is hope. Thats why they havent just cleared evryone they can out of the club. Thats my reading of the situation.
marinobohs
20/01/2011, 12:16 PM
1) Do you honestly believe that Bohs offered contracts to players "as they would struggle to find clubs"?
2) If you do believe that, do you not think thats as stupid a move as any club has ever made?
Dodge, not sure of the detail but think there is a "duty of care" requirement in repect of players that are injured at end of contract (PFAI sought this in discussions any way).
As regards sanity (or otherwise) of retaining any players for next season - the issue is subject of heated (and thats putting it mildly) debate among membership with many preferring a 100% amateur team for next season. It depends on how much it would cost to buy them out versus retention costs etc (how much more is having a few experienced players on board worth as opposed to buying them out). proposed fund raising scheme would cover their wages for next season but I have no idea RE contract details
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