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tetsujin1979
21/11/2020, 5:50 PM
i will look for it. They are trying a coup d'etat, with all this charade
good. you have one day

Any reply to this Bielsa?

Exgrad
21/11/2020, 5:52 PM
Am I reading too much into things that he didn't say "There was nothing wrong with the video"?

Yeah, didnt say he didnt make a complaint, just he didnt leak to press. A lot of legs on this one im afraid.

Razors left peg
21/11/2020, 6:06 PM
In a weekend the Gaa are commemorating Bloody Sunday the FAI are investigating that someone might have said something mean about England..... how very Irish

Bielsa´s irish
21/11/2020, 6:39 PM
Any reply to this Bielsa?

Only from Alan's statement , so something is going on, mate

"This narrative is wholly and totally wrong & it should beg the question who is spreading & who is benefitting from this? What I can say is it’s not me."

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/enough-is-enough-ireland-goalkeeping-coach-alan-kelly-releases-statement-1.4415973

Thank you Alan, I forgive you for Van Brockhorst goal, because he made it another time vs Uruguay at the wc the same goal

tetsujin1979
21/11/2020, 7:01 PM
So...no?
Withdraw your accusation

Fixer82
21/11/2020, 7:09 PM
If kenny said anything pro IRA. He should be sacked today. I hope not I really do. But he he said " up the ra"or the like its something that cant be excused

Why would he say anything Pro-IRA?
When do you even hear people in the pub talking Pro-IRA these days?
It’s rubbish!

Even the term ‘pro-IRA’ sounds like something the Daily Mail came up with

Bielsa´s irish
21/11/2020, 7:20 PM
So...no?
Withdraw your accusation

yeah!

I only have got this unrest feeling not enough
No coup d'etat .............yet.........Kelly says there is something lurking though, but he is loyal irishman

https://extra.ie/2020/11/21/sport/soccernews/ireland-players-doubts-stephen-kenny

Fixer82
21/11/2020, 9:02 PM
yeah!

I only have got this unrest feeling not enough
No coup d'etat .............yet.........Kelly says there is something lurking though, but he is loyal irishman

https://extra.ie/2020/11/21/sport/soccernews/ireland-players-doubts-stephen-kenny

That’s....I don’t know what that means

Bielsa´s irish
22/11/2020, 12:35 AM
I sense an unrest with his methods, maybe they all wanna play grass football, but Kenny's approach is not working as it was revealed with the stats, and senior players want him to change a bit. We need 4 guys in midfield
weve got the ball more than them , but we cannot put rivals to the sword, in the final third, we are not clinical enough whe the chance arises, plus we are lacking agressiveness and a bit of togetherness with good teamwork, that was exposed, maybe the players want the mananger to change the formation, I dont know for sure whats going on but Kelly's statement adds a bit salt to the wound, buddy

the last two weeks were very odd

elatedscum
22/11/2020, 1:09 AM
I sense an unrest with his methods, maybe they all wanna play grass football, but Kenny's approach is not working as it was revealed with the stats, and senior players want him to change a bit. We need 4 guys in midfield
weve got the ball more than them , but we cannot put rivals to the sword, in the final third, we are not clinical enough whe the chance arises, plus we are lacking agressiveness and a bit of togetherness with good teamwork, that was exposed, maybe the players want the mananger to change the formation, I dont know for sure whats going on but Kelly's statement adds a bit salt to the wound, buddy

the last two weeks were very odd

Azerbaijan’s last 4 results:

0-0 Cyprus
0-0 Slovenia
0-0 Montenegro
0-0 Luxembourg

Their formation?

To quote Mike Bassett 4-4-****ing-2

TrapAPony
22/11/2020, 1:22 AM
I would not be one bit surprised to hear that players are having doubts about Kenny. I had doubts about Kenny at the beginning due to having no playing career of note and only having managed at LOI level with a Dunfermline sacking in between. I couldn't see how Premiership footballers were going to buy into him but as an Ireland fan I wanted/want him to succeed. 8 games in and we are close to useless. There is no real style of football evident, we are no longer hard to beat and we wouldn't score if we were left playing for the rest of the year. There certainly isn't the flowing football which was promised and I don't think there ever will be. In all honesty, this recent ''scandal'' re Kenny is fairly trivial but is something that could be used to push him out the door and I think that we could be looking for a new manager fairly soon.

Bungle
22/11/2020, 9:58 AM
I have serious doubts about him, but the last thing football needs in Ireland is a return to a Martin O'Neill type playing football the way he did. The long term damage of his type of football and the latter years of Trap's reign is being felt, in that the public view Ireland games as a horrorfest of **** football and it's hard to disageee.

The options out there to replace him are not exciting and any decent manager won't be drawn to us. That might change in 2-3 years if the young players become good/very good premier league players.

nigel-harps1954
22/11/2020, 10:57 AM
Several of our key senior players will have either played under him or against him in the LOI and his record stands for itself there.

Many of the young players have played under him in the under-21s.

I don't buy the nonsense about players having doubts due to his past experience. It's speculation from people who are looking for an excuse. The fact people are willing someone who has come through our own system, to fail as manager of the senior Irish setup, speaks volumes about the 'greatest fans in the world'.

seanfhear
22/11/2020, 11:29 AM
There must still be a nasty element within the FAI that wanted to use what was ~ ~ a minor matter that could easily have been dealt with internally in to a big deal by leaking this non story as a Big Story. Is there still John Delaney followers there ? ?

The FAI most certainly did not need this ~ So who ever did this leaking was definitely trying to Sabotage !

Bungle
22/11/2020, 11:43 AM
Several of our key senior players will have either played under him or against him in the LOI and his record stands for itself there.

Many of the young players have played under him in the under-21s.

I don't buy the nonsense about players having doubts due to his past experience. It's speculation from people who are looking for an excuse. The fact people are willing someone who has come through our own system, to fail as manager of the senior Irish setup, speaks volumes about the 'greatest fans in the world'.

I think the young players will be just happy to be breaking through and even if Alan Partridge was the manager, they aren't going to be at the point where they are asserting themselves. Stephen was a very good u21 manager so he will be well liked amongst them.

The likes of Brady are a different element. They have a big opinion of themselves despite doing next to nothing of note since 2016. I would be shocked if he doesn't lool down his nose at Kenny.

There are enough decent senior players like Coleman, Duffy, Doherty, Egan, Stephens and Randolph to look after the young lads and be a good influence in the dressing room.

BOOMSHAKALAKA
22/11/2020, 1:26 PM
I have serious doubts about him, but the last thing football needs in Ireland is a return to a Martin O'Neill type playing football the way he did. The long term damage of his type of football and the latter years of Trap's reign is being felt, in that the public view Ireland games as a horrorfest of **** football and it's hard to disageee.

The options out there to replace him are not exciting and any decent manager won't be drawn to us. That might change in 2-3 years if the young players become good/very good premier league players.

Getting rid of Kenny doesn't automatically mean we go back to a long ball game. It's not an either/or choice. It may be a different game plan or the same one with a manager who can implement it effectively if Kenny proves he's not capable of it.

BOOMSHAKALAKA
22/11/2020, 1:32 PM
Several of our key senior players will have either played under him or against him in the LOI and his record stands for itself there.

Many of the young players have played under him in the under-21s.

I don't buy the nonsense about players having doubts due to his past experience. It's speculation from people who are looking for an excuse. The fact people are willing someone who has come through our own system, to fail as manager of the senior Irish setup, speaks volumes about the 'greatest fans in the world'.

I'm not sure who's willing him to fail? Kenny did an excellent job with Dundalk and the u21's and did fine jobs elsewhere except for Dunfermline. It's a decent record but at quite a low level. He has it all to prove at senior international level. He hasn't made a good start at all but it's early days.

Bungle
22/11/2020, 2:32 PM
Getting rid of Kenny doesn't automatically mean we go back to a long ball game. It's not an either/or choice. It may be a different game plan or the same one with a manager who can implement it effectively if Kenny proves he's not capable of it.

Absolutely agree with you.

Right now though, unless we go the continental route, I could see someone coming in who will look at our current team and go with a MON style approach. Any of the possible British/Irish ones anyway. I view the next 2 years as a vital project to get the youth in the team and build us for the following 3+ campaigns (short term pain for long term gain) but a lot of the types who might take over would go with the tried and tested and hope a bit of luck gets a playoff. They are unlikely to have as much patience with young players who will need to grow into international football. Why would they if they want more immediate results and want to get back into the club circuit asap with a good campaign with Ireland.

I do see Iceland have a man who used to manage Sweden and they are nicely competitive. I can't say I know whether they play good football. I'm sure there are a few more out there who could do a decent job and not be a crazy price.

I have big doubts about Stephen but I still would like him to get most if not all of the next campaign. If we are losing to Luxemburg or Moldova, then I might change my mind to be fair.

Fixer82
22/11/2020, 2:40 PM
The likes of Brady are a different element. ...... I would be shocked if he doesn't lool down his nose at Kenny.


What are you basing that on?

Bielsa´s irish
22/11/2020, 4:05 PM
Absolutely agree with you.

Right now though, unless we go the continental route, I could see someone coming in who will look at our current team and go with a MON style approach. Any of the possible British/Irish ones anyway. I view the next 2 years as a vital project to get the youth in the team and build us for the following 3+ campaigns (short term pain for long term gain) but a lot of the types who might take over would go with the tried and tested and hope a bit of luck gets a playoff. They are unlikely to have as much patience with young players who will need to grow into international football. Why would they if they want more immediate results and want to get back into the club circuit asap with a good campaign with Ireland.

I do see Iceland have a man who used to manage Sweden and they are nicely competitive. I can't say I know whether they play good football. I'm sure there are a few more out there who could do a decent job and not be a crazy price.

I have big doubts about Stephen but I still would like him to get most if not all of the next campaign. If we are losing to Luxemburg or Moldova, then I might change my mind to be fair.
I agree with both

Bielsa´s irish
22/11/2020, 4:14 PM
Lars Largerback former sweden head coach he usually works in a dupla.

Regarding respect from the players. Kenny's pedigree doesnt bother the players at all...S.K is a champion, didnt manage in the top leagues but the guy got trophies, and players respect that.
Players want clear, concrete and concise directions on the football field, in Argentina we currently have a coach who never worked professionally as a coach, but who is a well-known former right-back for the Celts of Superdepor La Coruña, in Galicia

gally
22/11/2020, 4:35 PM
We dont have any decent wide attacking midfielders/forwards, my formation would be,

Randolph
Coleman Egan Long Stevens
Cullen
Brady Browne
Byrne
Connolly Robinson

4-4-2 diamond formation.

Bielsa´s irish
22/11/2020, 4:39 PM
From my point of view it is that I believe that the great attrition is due to the functioning of the team, the tension is due to this power struggle, between those who command the group and those who obey the orders. Also, so many games without scoring a goal affect you psychologically, the team needs a little sport therapy.

Restlessness, a turmoil, and doubts then underlie and everywhere in this western world of footballers they are all going to try to save their necks rather than the coach's neck, thats for sure. In those things the players are streetwise, if they like the coach and things are successful they will back the football process, but when they stop liking him, or the results are mediocre, They could deliver bad performances. Dark arts that arent written in a board, but everyone who played this king of all sports knows a little tiny bit.

Fixer82
22/11/2020, 4:41 PM
From my point of view it is that I believe that the great attrition is due to the functioning of the team, the tension is due to this power struggle, between those who command the group and those who obey the orders. Also, so many games without scoring a goal affect you psychologically, the team needs a little sport therapy.

Restlessness, a turmoil, and doubts then underlie and everywhere in this western world of footballers they are all going to try to save their necks rather than the coach's neck, thats for sure. In those things the players are streetwise, if they like the coach and things are successful they will back the football process, but when they stop liking him, or the results are mediocre, They could deliver bad performances. Dark arts that arent written in a board, but everyone who played this king of all sports knows a little tiny bit.

It’s like something written by Nostradamus. Without the foresight

Bielsa´s irish
22/11/2020, 4:45 PM
We dont have any decent wide attacking midfielders/forwards, my formation would be,

Randolph
Coleman Egan Long Stevens
Cullen
Brady Browne
Byrne
Connolly Robinson

4-4-2 diamond formation.

I really like your formation but I wouldnt leave young Doherty and McCarthy out, Byrne is an old-fashioned 10 like the icelanic at Everton.

in a diamond i would go very similar to yours

randolph

coleman doherty egan stevens

cullen
robinson mccarthy

byrne

Long Connolly

Bungle
22/11/2020, 4:50 PM
What are you basing that on?

A friend who has been close to the Ireland squad for many years. He speaks very highly of several of the players like Egan, Randolph Duffy and Coleman. He wasn't even going out of his way to be critical of some of them like Brady because my friend is a nice fella but little comments tell a lot with someone like him. Said what I thought from watching him - basically fancies himself as a superstar. Said McClean considers himself as the voice of the team and is quite a dominamt presence. Said that MON could be very spiky but that Keane was generally sound to staff especially if he knew them years (a bit of a dick to the players though!). Had a lot of time for Richie Dunne, Duffer and Robbie.

Bielsa´s irish
22/11/2020, 4:54 PM
It’s like something written by Nostradamus. Without the foresight
Fixer82 im describing how it usually works in Southamerica, players will sing as long as the coach and his system takes them to back to back victories.

Of course, the coach and his assistants have to bear some of the blaming because they prepare the formation and the strategy, but that Welsh goal last Sunday has nothing to do with SK, as the video analysis of tetsujin showed there were 5 players who did something wrong at the same time, that's not the coach, those are individual mistakes or bad decision-making

Bielsa´s irish
22/11/2020, 5:01 PM
A friend who has been close to the Ireland squad for many years. He speaks very highly of several of the players like Egan, Randolph Duffy and Coleman. He wasn't even going out of his way to be critical of some of them like Brady because my friend is a nice fella but little comments tell a lot with someone like him. Said what I thought from watching him - basically fancies himself as a superstar. Said McClean considers himself as the voice of the team and is quite a dominamt presence. Said that MON could be very spiky but that Keane was generally sound to staff especially if he knew them years (a bit of a dick to the players though!). Had a lot of time for Richie Dunne, Duffer and Robbie.

It looks like McClean is a great person,
I like him, but where to place him I think if we play left wing back can still perform. S.K has to solve this riddle or they will sack him next year. 4-3-3 is too open for us unless we are clinical up front

gally
22/11/2020, 5:35 PM
I really like your formation but I wouldnt leave young Doherty and McCarthy out, Byrne is an old-fashioned 10 like the icelanic at Everton.

in a diamond i would go very similar to yours

randolph

coleman doherty egan stevens

cullen
robinson mccarthy

byrne

Long Connolly



Like your team also, come on SK, make it happen

geysir
22/11/2020, 6:46 PM
Several of our key senior players will have either played under him or against him in the LOI and his record stands for itself there.

Many of the young players have played under him in the under-21s.

I don't buy the nonsense about players having doubts due to his past experience. It's speculation from people who are looking for an excuse. The fact people are willing someone who has come through our own system, to fail as manager of the senior Irish setup, speaks volumes about the 'greatest fans in the world'.
Could we have players big enough with Ronaldo like delusions to have doubts about Kenny? By all accounts Kenny has taken a lot of time over the summer contacting each and every player and talking to them at length. Also if the account is true that part of the video content was flagged to Kenny before he presented it to the players, that leads me to suspect the malcontent was someone outside the squad of players.

Bielsa´s irish
22/11/2020, 7:46 PM
yeah I mean yeah,
but players will support the guy until the spotlight of public domain is on them, they actually wanna achieve something, the match vs England maybe,you know, some senior players didnt wanna do the match. Logistically made sense, but sportively was wrong and quite unnecessary. This agenda may have caused some distancing among parties, coaches and players, maybe, then you have the suits, and they play a total different game as it is well documented over the years everywhere in the beautiful game

Bielsa´s irish
22/11/2020, 8:29 PM
fai statement on Kenny anti-english comments

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/arid-40087331.html

Nesta99
22/11/2020, 8:59 PM
I'm not sure who's willing him to fail? Kenny did an excellent job with Dundalk and the u21's and did fine jobs elsewhere except for Dunfermline. It's a decent record but at quite a low level. He has it all to prove at senior international level. He hasn't made a good start at all but it's early days.

It's possible that Kenny wont be a success with Ireland, I hope that he is given the time to show one way or another whether he is up to the task and for there not to be that question mark if the trigger gets pulled prematurely. We also could end up in that 'be careful what is wished for' situation. Who is out there that wants to take on a thankless rebuilding job of the calibre that would escape instant criticism ie managed at the top of the EPL with some style. We would probably be looking at an Allerdyce type appointment. He could get early results but at the expense of longer term overall improvement. We have been on a gradual slide for a long time and are no longer an attractive proposition for managers, even if out of work.

On the Dunfermline spell that Kenny had, I have always felt it harsh to rule that as complete failure. They were 10+ points adrift at the bottom of the SPL when he was appointed and got them within a chance of staying up the last day after winning 5 or 6 games on the bounce, St Mirren came from 2 goals down to win 3-2 in their great escape relegating Dunfermline. Getting to the SFA Cup Final, beating Hearts and Hibs and Rangers on the way is no mean feat. The following season big things were expected but didnt happen as a basketcase financially with a squad that needed a massive overhaul and it was also the season that Gretna were splasing the cash. They picked up a draw in the UEFA Cup as a 1st div side too.

The following year his Derry side beat Gothenburg, hammered Gretna, and frightened the bejaysus out of PSG. His European record at Dundalk also shows there is more to him than domestic ability. Win the odd game ok, but regularly punch above the weight with results and its more than gutsy, backs to the wall stuff.

He was a lot less experienced for a lot of the above and has plenty to learn and adapt for international management. Time will tell but right now beggars cant be choosers either.

Bielsa´s irish
22/11/2020, 9:16 PM
It's possible that Kenny wont be a success with Ireland, I hope that he is given the time to show one way or another whether he is up to the task and for there not to be that question mark if the trigger gets pulled prematurely. We also could end up in that 'be careful what is wished for' situation. Who is out there that wants to take on a thankless rebuilding job of the calibre that would escape instant criticism ie managed at the top of the EPL with some style. We would probably be looking at an Allerdyce type appointment. He could get early results but at the expense of longer term overall improvement. We have been on a gradual slide for a long time and are no longer an attractive proposition for managers, even if out of work.

On the Dunfermline spell that Kenny had, I have always felt it harsh to rule that as complete failure. They were 10+ points adrift at the bottom of the SPL when he was appointed and got them within a chance of staying up the last day after winning 5 or 6 games on the bounce, St Mirren came from 2 goals down to win 3-2 in their great escape relegating Dunfermline. Getting to the SFA Cup Final, beating Hearts and Hibs and Rangers on the way is no mean feat. The following season big things were expected but didnt happen as a basketcase financially with a squad that needed a massive overhaul and it was also the season that Gretna were splasing the cash. They picked up a draw in the UEFA Cup as a 1st div side too.

The following year his Derry side beat Gothenburg, hammered Gretna, and frightened the bejaysus out of PSG. His European record at Dundalk also shows there is more to him than domestic ability. Win the odd game ok, but regularly punch above the weight with results and its more than gutsy, backs to the wall stuff.

He was a lot less experienced for a lot of the above and has plenty to learn and adapt for international management. Time will tell but right now beggars cant be choosers either.

Yeah, the issue or maybe this distancing, just is maybe wiith the formation not with the strategy, we were in possession but as Paul McGrath wrote we werent able to threat the opposition,
We can pass it around without any sense of purpose all the time we want,, and that is not progressive football

elatedscum
22/11/2020, 9:53 PM
Yeah, the issue or maybe this distancing, just is maybe wiith the formation not with the strategy, we were in possession but as Paul McGrath wrote we werent able to threat the opposition,
We can pass it around without any sense of purpose all the time we want,, and that is not progressive football

When your team is missing Coleman, Doherty, Stevens, Egan, McCarthy, Arter, Browne, Hendrick, Robinson, O’Dowda, Connolly, McClean, Long and Idah, the players you’re working with may not be as capable of implementing the type of football that you want.

Everything has conspired against a quick turnaround. He’s had to call up a squad of 42 players during those 3 windows. Third choice right back playing, third choice left back playing etc etc etc. You could argue that we were missing 9 of our first 11 and 6 of the 9 first choice replacements for those players. Kenny is having to play players who aren’t ready or aren’t good enough, not out of choice but out of necessity. Players can’t build partnerships because they’re chopping and changing. Egan plays and then is a Covid scare, then Long comes in and injures his eye, then Doherty covers the rest of the game. Then O’Shea comes in for the next match. Doherty has had to cover right back, centre back and left back. Egan had missed 5 games basically (minus 10 mins). Stevens has missed 3 games. Coleman has missed 6 games. Connolly has missed 5 games. Robinson too. Think McCarthy 7 and Arter 6.

At to be honest, we’ve missed a lot of chances. Rewatched the latest Bulgaria highlights and Collins could or should score 4. Brady, Duffy and Knight too.

It’s not as simple as saying that, but in virtually every game, except for the England game. The result hasn’t reflected the chances created. The overall performances have been mixed but we’ve created more chances in these games than any group of games since Euro 2016.

Bielsa´s irish
22/11/2020, 10:21 PM
When your team is missing Coleman, Doherty, Stevens, Egan, McCarthy, Arter, Browne, Hendrick, Robinson, O’Dowda, Connolly, McClean, Long and Idah, the players you’re working with may not be as capable of implementing the type of football that you want.

Everything has conspired against a quick turnaround. He’s had to call up a squad of 42 players during those 3 windows. Third choice right back playing, third choice left back playing etc etc etc. You could argue that we were missing 9 of our first 11 and 6 of the 9 first choice replacements for those players. Kenny is having to play players who aren’t ready or aren’t good enough, not out of choice but out of necessity. Players can’t build partnerships because they’re choppin g and changing. Egan plays and then is a Covid scare, then Long comes in and injures his eye, then Doherty covers the rest of the game. Then O’Shea comes in for the next match. Doherty has had to cover right back, centre back and left back. Egan had missed 5 games basically (minus 10 mins). Stevens has missed 3 games. Coleman has missed 6 games. Connolly has missed 5 games. Robinson too. Think McCarthy 7 and Arter 6.

At to be honest, we’ve missed a lot of chances. Rewatched the latest Bulgaria highlights and Collins could or should score 4. Brady, Duffy and Knight too.

It’s not as simple as saying that, but in virtually every game, except for the England game. The result hasn’t reflected the chances created. The overall performances have been mixed but we’ve created more chances in these games than any group of games since Euro 2016.

Yeah, but a lot of teams had experienced the same, it is odd the irish had so much missing players, withdraws its odd, James McCarthy's is the only one who isnt strange,

we played qualieswith people coming from there, only a few injuries I think Dybala and another guy, Ocampo from Sevilla..

It is weird, but for me we should have at least had won the last one

Bielsa´s irish
22/11/2020, 10:23 PM
maybe in southamerica they are not testing that well, Suárez got covid withdraw was the only one I can come up with

Nesta99
23/11/2020, 3:32 PM
I dont see it as particularly unusual that a whole load of players had to withdraw with covid issues. One person in the camp tests positive and it was always likely to spread. It'd be interesting to see if infection has become an issue for any player returning from international duty as players could have been carriers in the early stages undetected and potentially infected opposition where there was inevitable close contact. It was all a learning curve but we were hit early and could barely field a team in the end. Other squads could well be hit but by now are all back at their clubs - possibly isolating. Info on these players could put some perspective on the outbreaks and whether we were unlucky or the system in place didnt work.

Fixer82
24/11/2020, 11:40 AM
A friend who has been close to the Ireland squad for many years. He speaks very highly of several of the players like Egan, Randolph Duffy and Coleman. He wasn't even going out of his way to be critical of some of them like Brady because my friend is a nice fella but little comments tell a lot with someone like him. Said what I thought from watching him - basically fancies himself as a superstar. Said McClean considers himself as the voice of the team and is quite a dominamt presence. Said that MON could be very spiky but that Keane was generally sound to staff especially if he knew them years (a bit of a dick to the players though!). Had a lot of time for Richie Dunne, Duffer and Robbie.

Brady apparently was one of the players to come out very strongly in support of Kenny

Charlie Darwin
26/11/2020, 2:03 AM
Getting rid of Kenny doesn't automatically mean we go back to a long ball game. It's not an either/or choice. It may be a different game plan or the same one with a manager who can implement it effectively if Kenny proves he's not capable of it.
Yeah but, realistically, we're going to go for a big name and that limits you to a few out of work guys from Ireland/UK, and they tend to be of the more rudimentary variety. We're not going to get rid of Kenny and make Andrews or Kenny Cunningham the manager.

Charlie Darwin
26/11/2020, 2:04 AM
I think the young players will be just happy to be breaking through and even if Alan Partridge was the manager, they aren't going to be at the point where they are asserting themselves. Stephen was a very good u21 manager so he will be well liked amongst them.

The likes of Brady are a different element. They have a big opinion of themselves despite doing next to nothing of note since 2016. I would be shocked if he doesn't lool down his nose at Kenny.

There are enough decent senior players like Coleman, Duffy, Doherty, Egan, Stephens and Randolph to look after the young lads and be a good influence in the dressing room.
A couple of the papers said Brady was one of the senior players to speak up for Kenny, along with Duffy and Coleman. I'd imagine most of the footballing players in the squad will be happy with the way things are going. Might be your more hit and rush players like Shane Long who don't like it.

seanfhear
26/11/2020, 8:37 AM
A couple of the papers said Brady was one of the senior players to speak up for Kenny, along with Duffy and Coleman. I'd imagine most of the footballing players in the squad will be happy with the way things are going. Might be your more hit and rush players like Shane Long who don't like it.
Especially is he is getting Hit ~ ~ Isn’t it Kick and Rush !

TonyD
26/11/2020, 8:36 PM
Yeah but, realistically, we're going to go for a big name and that limits you to a few out of work guys from Ireland/UK, and they tend to be of the more rudimentary variety. We're not going to get rid of Kenny and make Andrews or Kenny Cunningham the manager.

Yep, it’ll be Allardyce, or Pardew,or someone of that ilk. I know the results have been poor, but I really don’t think people are giving Kenny a fair chance.

tetsujin1979
26/11/2020, 9:15 PM
Pardew is the new director of football at CSKA Sofia, believe it or not

Trequartista20
08/01/2021, 8:46 PM
Duff walks.

https://mobile.twitter.com/FAIreland/status/1347657562146152450

Ireland under Kenny looks a bit of a sinking ship at the moment.

Let's just hope that retirements can be kept down to a minimum.

Razors left peg
08/01/2021, 8:53 PM
Duff walks.

https://mobile.twitter.com/FAIreland/status/1347657562146152450

Ireland under Kenny looks a bit of a sinking ship at the moment.

Let's just hope that retirements can be kept down to a minimum.

Or he got a good offer from somewhere else

pineapple stu
08/01/2021, 8:55 PM
Ireland under Kenny looks a bit of a sinking ship at the moment.
Who else has left other than Duff? McGoldrick - that's it I think?

Razors left peg
08/01/2021, 8:58 PM
Who else has left other than Duff? McGoldrick - that's it I think?

Alan Kelly too

Olé Olé
08/01/2021, 8:59 PM
Or he got a good offer from somewhere else

This has to be the case? I can't envisage anything else. He has a great reputation so he could easily get a good gig.

pineapple stu
08/01/2021, 9:01 PM
Alan Kelly too

Has he? I thought he just sat out the last trio of games (for asthma/covid/leaking the video/whatever reasons)?