Martin O'Neill and Roy Keane [Archive] - Page 28

geysir

03/12/2014, 7:42 PM

Villa win their first game in ages :)
I really never saw what Keane offered as a pundit, apart from his one liner shock value popular quotes which went against the grain, his actual stock analysis was banal,mono dimensional and repetitive, therefore I do share Cas' wonderment at what people find fascinating about Keane in his post playing days, in regards to football analysis and coaching. Apart from that, I don't mind him.
He's not worth his salary for us. I'd prefer to have a character like Noel King in there as assistant and I'd say he could do with a decent salary.
It's not up to the FAI to sponsor Keane's apprenticeship as a manager and the odds are he'll not make the grade.

DeLorean

03/12/2014, 8:08 PM

Well it was O'Neill that wanted him, not the FAI. Accommodating the manager with the assistant he choses is good practice I think, and their wages are being heavily subsidised by Denis O'Brien anyway so in that sense the figures are kind of irrelevant, crazy n all as they are.

geysir

03/12/2014, 8:43 PM

The salary figures are not irrelevant just because there is a reputed 40% - 50% subsidy, the FAI still pay twice as much as is arguably appropriate for an association of Ireland's size. The subsidy also does not negate the gulf in inequality between what club managers earn in the LOI (at the bottom of the professional ladder) and the extreme high salary paid to the top pair, who are part time.
Keane may well be O'Neill's choice but it is farcical that an assistant manager of a small association commands a salary that's more than most managers in Uefa land and maybe more than all the managers in the LOI combined.
Keane doesn't even look like a proper assistant, where's his effin' clipboard?

DeLorean

03/12/2014, 9:07 PM

geysir

03/12/2014, 10:31 PM

It's not something that bothers me too much. We're not a big draw, if we have to pay a bit more to attract a high profile, proven manager and his chosen assistant, with a massively generous no strings attached donation then, within reason, so be it.
Other similar sized countries manage alright without having to pay a fortune to lure a manager, it's not the lack of lure that the irish job offers, that forces the FAI to pay out a fortune for a managerial team and one that just happens to manage average grade results.
If you're not bothered by the issue, then fine.

I'm not sure what the LOI managers wages have to do with it?
What is the relevance between a club football managers' salary in the domestic league which is under the control of the FAI and the FAI's representative team's management�salary?
I supposed that the mere example of the glaring inequality of the Intl manager earning 30 times what a manager does in the LOI, says something about the state of Irish football. That's my opinion about what I perceive to be a glaring dysfunction in Irish football, but that's another debate.

This current discussion is about Roy and Cas seeing him without any clothes and although Cas has always seen Roy like this, he does have a point. Eg. Roy as a pundit was banal yet he was lauded as being 'left field' etc.

ArdeeBhoy

03/12/2014, 11:56 PM

I'm not sure what you're saying though? If this was a decision based on his ego, wouldn't he have stayed on and wanted to prove he could combine both roles effectively? Quitting was an admission that he called it wrong and wasn't capable of doing both roles the way he thought he would.

Not in his world. More like he p*ssed people off.
If he admits it fair enough, but don't hold your breath.

Though in latter years, he occasionally has a point re.the former.

tricky_colour

04/12/2014, 12:36 AM

tricky_colour

04/12/2014, 12:40 AM

Why would anybody hang a picture crooked... my skin just crawled at the thought. In fairness though, it had more character the other way. A Tricky Masterclass.

I preferred it when it was full of spelling and grammatical errors.

Strictly speaking though shouldn't there be one thread for Roy and one thread for Martin?

I mean there is definitely a separate thread for Roy Keane so the question is which thread should you post in for a comment about Roy
Keane?

Spudulika

04/12/2014, 8:15 AM

I'd be surprised if Giles could name three Roy Keane signings. That's not to say he's wrong.

We don't really know for sure what Keane has or hasn't been offered post-Ipswich, I think he said in the book that he turned down a couple, possibly from abroad. Just because he didn't accept a managerial position until November 2013 doesn't mean he wasn't offered something, or at least approached. He probably needed a time out after Ipswich anyway. I can see where Cascarino is coming from, that Keane can mess up and still land on his feet, but I agree with Danny that it's not for Cascarino to say, just comes across like jealousy to me. I mean, for Keane to be offered a contract by the FAI, after all that went before, was pretty astounding. Villa and Celtic are two massive clubs to have offered positions as well, given his relative lack of success in management, and goes to show that a big personality/reputation can take you a long way.

He was chased and offered the head coach position by the Turkish team Kasimpasa. They were in advanced talks but there was 1 sticking point....
He was approached by the former GD of Spartak Moscow in December 2012 - January 2013 to become head coach, turned it down...there was 1 sticking point.

The sticking point was the same, the position was "head coach", which means limited powers signing players and all that goes with it. He was right to refuse the latter, but the former....could have been nice.

KK77

04/12/2014, 9:10 AM

John would know, to be fair.

I would disagree myself. I would feel it was just his two cents on it or should I say his opinion to which to be fair he is entitled to.

DeLorean

04/12/2014, 9:51 AM

Other similar sized countries manage alright without having to pay a fortune to lure a manager, it's not the lack of lure that the irish job offers, that forces the FAI to pay out a fortune for a managerial team and one that just happens to manage average grade results.
If you're not bothered by the issue, then fine.

Just to be clear, when I said it's not something that bothers me too much, I didn't mean it in an apathetic way. I just meant that, for me, it would be one of the lesser issues of how the association run the game here. I'd say fair play to them for managing to get Trap first, and then Martin O'Neill. Lower profile managers can be successful, of course, but I think they are giving us the best chance of success by going down the proven manager route, sadly it guarantees nothings.

What is the relevance between a club football managers' salary in the domestic league which is under the control of the FAI and the FAI's representative team's management�salary?
I supposed that the mere example of the glaring inequality of the Intl manager earning 30 times what a manager does in the LOI, says something about the state of Irish football. That's my opinion about what I perceive to be a glaring dysfunction in Irish football, but that's another debate.

Excuse my ignorance, but aren't the LOI managers paid by their clubs? They're never likely to justify a big wage when most of the clubs struggle to get 3,000 at their games. I suppose it is dysfunctional but I'm not sure an FAI with the best will in the world would manage to close that gap, without the national team being the one that suffers. It is another debate though and, to be honest, I wouldn't be well up enough to contribute much to it.

This current discussion is about Roy and Cas seeing him without any clothes and although Cas has always seen Roy like this, he does have a point. Eg. Roy as a pundit was banal yet he was lauded as being 'left field' etc.

Well I suppose it's only a matter of opinion whether Keane was a decent pundit or not. Personally I would agree with you that he didn't add to much in terms of analysing a match, but there aren't too many around that do. He probably jumped ahead of the majority by just saying what he thought, instead of trying to be politically correct and, to be fair, I don't think I heard anybody give him credit for anything more than that.

DannyInvincible

04/12/2014, 10:55 AM

I agree with geysir in making the LOI manager comparison/connection, even if seemingly indirect. If the FAI were pumping the money into more sustainable models of progress that would aid long-term domestic development, I would happily put up with lower profile names in the managerial and assistant positions for a few years. Unfortunately, the future is rather bleak because the FAI don't appear to have the nous or foresight to look very far down the line. Competing associations are moving on and we have fewer and fewer players playing at the top level of English football by the season. Formerly, we relied on English academies to produce our talent but we can't piggyback any longer (due to the way the worldwide footballing market has changed and the EPL becoming a truly global behemoth), so we should be concentrating on ensuring a steady stream of talent internally that will have a greater chance of engineering better performances and long-term success. That in turn would generate greater public interest and increased revenue that could be pumped back into the self-sustaining model, thereby ensuring a follow-up generation of talent. It would be a more sustainable, stable and beneficial way of doing it rather than the short-termist throwing of everything at high-profile senior team managers and assistants. What happens when said managers and their assistants inevitably fail to deliver because they don't have the players coming through? Of course, the above would require a complete revamp of the game's structures in Ireland which is easier written about than done. I also acknowledge O'Brien's contributions, but I think it is generally accepted that the FAI devotes a disproportionate level of focus and investment to projects from which only the senior men's team will benefit.

DeLorean

04/12/2014, 11:07 AM

DannyInvincible

04/12/2014, 11:13 AM

O'Neill is supposed to be on €1.2m pa and Keane €700k. Apparently O'Brien is paying roughly half? That leaves the FAI paying €950k pa for the two. What would be a reasonable wage for the manager and his assistant do ye feel? Just say they were paid half of these figures with the same arrangement in place with O'Brien. That would free up 475k to put into the LOI.... is that a significant sum or peanuts?

Very significant, I would think. It would be nearly five times the league-winning prize-money.

I'd be interested in seeing a list of salaries of managers and their assistants across UEFA, just by way of comparison. I'm not sure what a reasonable precise figure would be; I just don't think getting a big name in should be the priority because it's not a sustainable method of investment.

DeLorean

04/12/2014, 11:20 AM

Yeah but I think it's generally accepted that the prize money for the league champions is peanuts, relatively speaking, and that's given to just one club. Obviously the 475k would have to be spread to benefit the entire league, or used for some worthwhile project. I don't have a huge opinion on this, just a general wondering. I'm sure I'd agree with ye entirely if I thought paying our management team less would be of huge benefit to the LOI, I'm just highly doubtful that it would. I understand that the whole structure needs a revamp though, an issue far greater than the price of securing MONKEANO.

Stuttgart88

04/12/2014, 11:30 AM

I don't think their pay is that big an issue. I think the success of the senior national team is what has the potential to finance the FAI's spending on the game. This bigger issue is that this appears to be the only strategy and it's very much an eggs in one basket gamble which highlights the lack of a joined up plan for a sustainable development of the game.

DannyInvincible

04/12/2014, 11:40 AM

I think the success of the senior national team is what has the potential to finance the FAI's spending on the game. This bigger issue is that this appears to be the only strategy and it's very much an eggs in one basket gamble which highlights the lack of a joined up plan for a sustainable development of the game.

That's what I was getting at. Couldn't have said it better. I think the salaries are indicative of that one-dimensional focus.

ifk101

04/12/2014, 11:42 AM

Just for comparison purposes, Sweden's coach is on around €250,000, Norway's €450,000 and Denmark's about €650,000. Not exact figures but near enough.

ArdeeBhoy

04/12/2014, 10:41 PM

Aye, and living costs are far higher there, well definitely the first two.

osarusan

05/12/2014, 3:02 AM

I don't think the comparisons with LOI managers are all that relevant.

I'd be more interested to know what other, similarly ranked teams pay their managers and what the duties are with and beyond the senior team, and what the goals and benchmarks are.

Spudulika

05/12/2014, 6:02 AM

Fabio Capello hasn't been paid in over 5 months (at least in November that was the case). Reports of his salary have been (in sterling) from 6-8million, the real amount is probably just below 6.5million dollars.

Bilic was paid 1million euros a year, but made the same back in "tips".

What is important to differentiate between our pair and many other countries is what coaches make on the back end. Caps are valuable, they can raise the value and profile of a player, and his marketability. Add in "friendlies" and other bits and bobs, a base salary isn't the only thing to make a job attractive. If our pair are just getting paid straight, I'd be happy with that.

ArdeeBhoy

05/12/2014, 8:39 AM

Anyway, their wages are almost immaterial, if you look at what Trap was getting. Not to mention a certain Chief Executive...

Plus DL makes a fair point about LOI managers liable to be on peanuts by comparison!!

punkrocket

05/12/2014, 9:20 AM

If you pay peanuts you don't get MONKEAs

ArdeeBhoy

05/12/2014, 10:31 AM

Lolz.

WexCar

05/12/2014, 2:02 PM

Some salaries of managers at the 2014 WC. Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10889731/World-Cup-2014-coaches-and-managers.html)

Croatia
Niko Kovac
Salary: �205.000

Australia
Ange Postecoglou
Salary: �1.000.000

Holland
Louis van Gaal
Salary: �2.000.000

Greece
Fernando Santos
Salary: �650.000

France
Didier Deschamps
Salary: �1.635.000

Switzerland
Ottmar Hitzfeld
Salary: �2.834.000

Bosnia and Herzegovina
Safet Susic
Salary: �267.000

Portugal
Paulo Bento
Salary: �1.287.000

USA
Jurgen Klinsmann
Salary: �1.982.000

Belgium
Marc Wilmots
Salary: �654.000

Spudulika

05/12/2014, 2:14 PM

Crosby87

10/12/2014, 1:35 AM

Roy writes a lad a note for school at book signing.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/leftfield/class-act-roy-keane-writes-note-for-student-late-for-class-30815450.html

DannyInvincible

10/12/2014, 5:29 AM

Roy's softened up since being in charge of Damien Delaney at Ipswich.

TheOneWhoKnocks

13/12/2014, 2:56 PM

http://thescore.thejournal.ie/roy-keane-villa-agbonlahor-1832587-Dec2014/

Keane leaves Villa after ****ing off the "big" names.

tetsujin1979

13/12/2014, 3:15 PM

the comments on the article say it all, it's a reprint from the Daily Mail, there's no player named as the source of the statements, and Villa have repeatedly refuted any claim that there was a bust up between Keane and the players

geysir

14/12/2014, 6:07 PM

Thanks WexCar, interesting reading. The win bonuses will bump up most of those salaries, but for some (Croatia and Bosnia for example), they earn tips that make it worth their while coaching. Bilic (when he signed with Loko) complained that he was not allowed to install "his" agent in the club, as it was already taken by the son-in-law of the President.
Our management team's basic high salary, one of the highest in Europe, is for failing to qualify. For doing their job and qualifying, they are contracted to receive a huge bonus on top of that basic salary and no doubt more bonuses on top of that should they pick up up a few points at those Finals.
Possibly there are some beleaguered African countries which have such a (20x to 30x) discrepancy between their local league manager's salary and international manager's salary. For us, living in the relatively affluent part of europe, the fact that the huge inequality exists, reflect a serious dysfunction existing in irish football.
The dysfunction is not just with the local game but also with the biased focus on the senior intl team.
The FAI is there to represent and administer all that is about Irish football.
The intl job is part time and what it takes to be the manager of our team is not that much different than being the manager of Wales, or Scotland for that matter.
The main justification for exercising such a discrepancy of favour of distribution of available resources by the association which runs Irish football, is if income earned can be fed into the local game. That has not come to pass. Other mentioned possible beneficial justifications, in reality have had minimal benefit to the local game

Does our team need Roy Keane? hasn't O'Neill more than enough support with his other mates? This is just an international team, it is not farcical for a medium level association to have an assistant manager earning Eur700k p/a?
If you take Croatia as an example, their domestic league is poorly supported, not that much different from the LOI, yet there's not much danger of their FA paying a fortune for an international manager. The Croatian players are better than ours. Are they born with that talent and somehow by some quirk of the stork, being born in Ireland means you are not born with the talent? I doubt it. The Croatian clubs manage to hold onto their star players and reap the benefit of some lotto level transfer fees and are able to fund their their club structure and academies. The Croation FA don't need to pay their intl team manager a fortune to make a silk purse out of the available players, the players are already at a very decent standard.

Spudulika

14/12/2014, 8:26 PM

If you take Croatia as an example, their domestic league is poorly supported, not that much different from the LOI, yet there's not much danger of their FA paying a fortune for an international manager. The Croatian players are better than ours. Are they born with that talent and somehow by some quirk of the stork, being born in Ireland means you are not born with the talent? I doubt it. The Croatian clubs manage to hold onto their star players and reap the benefit of some lotto level transfer fees and are able to fund their their club structure and academies. The Croation FA don't need to pay their intl team manager a fortune to make a silk purse out of the available players, the players are already at a very decent standard.
1. The manager is paid very well compared to league managers, plus he gets the chance to make large sums of money by capping players.
2. Croatian clubs make very little from sales of players, the majority of whom have already moved outside the coutnry at a young age. A clear example is the paltry 250,000eur (before tax) that arrived in Dinamo Zagreb's bank account after the sale of Eduardo. In addition the majority of players who are sold outside the country are owned by 3rd parties (usually local politicians or businessmen).
3. The standard of the Croatian league is okay, but the large number of sub-standard players (who would't get a kick of a ball in the LOI) goes down to "favourite" contracts. The pay for play at youth level translates somewhat at senior level, some clubs try to rescue it but the big 2 clubs hoover up all the talent very quickly.

Salary and bonuses of International managers is not as important as results and what it means to the economy and view of the country. Additionally in Croatia all resources are poured into football, with drops into basketball, volleyball and handball. In Ireland we have the GAA and Rugby getting the lion's share, so football needs whatever it takes to get headlines, especially with the sky leagues next door.

DannyInvincible

18/12/2014, 11:47 AM

According to the Sun, Roy Keane showed up at Tom Cleverley's door suspecting him of having leaked stories to the press over his departure from Villa: http://balls.ie/football/roy-keane-vs-tom-cleverley/

Not long after Keane�s exit from the club, reports in The Daily Mail claimed that he had run-ins with some of the club�s �big name� players, these being Gabby Agbonlahor, Charles N�Zogbia and Fabian Delph. The reports also said that the atmosphere was �horrible� whenever the former Man Utd midfielder was present. Paul Lambert has since denied these rumours, saying Keane left due to commitments with Ireland.

The Sun claims (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/6193575/Roy-Keane-flips.html) that on Tuesday of this week, the Ireland assistant manager turned up at the house of Tom Cleverley, who is on loan at Aston Villa from Man Utd. Keane believed that Cleverley was one leaking stories to the media.

The paper says that Keane, who may have been captured on CCTV, �furiously� pressed the doorbell and waited outside for 15 minutes before storming off when no one came to the door. He has since accepted that the midfielder was not the one talking to the media and is �looking for another target�.

back of the net

18/12/2014, 12:05 PM

According to the Sun, Roy Keane showed up at Tom Cleverley's door suspecting him of having leaked stories to the press over his departure from Villa: http://balls.ie/football/roy-keane-vs-tom-cleverley/

Obviously Massively taking into the Account the article comes from The SUN .....so one wud propably can assume the journalist who wrote it , exaggerated the story to sell the papers or that the story itself is complete b*llox!

But eitherway ..... i do worry about how Roy is been portrayed in media...whether its his fault/not...what do the Ireland players think when they read these stories about there Assitant manager.

Cant be a good thing!

DannyInvincible

18/12/2014, 1:05 PM

But eitherway ..... i do worry about how Roy is been portrayed in media...whether its his fault/not...what do the Ireland players think when they read these stories about there Assitant manager.

I don't know how accurate the Sun's portrayal of this alleged incident might be, but Roy can't stop them exaggerating. Everyone involved in our set-up from the top down is well aware of Roy's media profile/reputation and I'm sure our players are also well aware of how the media can spin things and sensationalise events. In what way would you see it affecting them?

KK77

18/12/2014, 2:08 PM

The rag enough said.

DannyInvincible

18/12/2014, 3:52 PM

Lambert says things were blown out of proportion: http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/english/2014/1218/667639-keane-attempts-to-confront-cleverly-at-home/

Aston Villa manager Paul Lambert has confirmed his former assistant Roy Keane did turn up at midfielder Tom Cleverley's house this week.

However, the Villa boss insists Cleverley said the incident was blown out of proportion by the media, who reported that the fiery Irishman stood ringing the player's doorbell for 15 minutes seeking an argument.

Keane, who stepped down from his role recently to focus on his position as Republic of Ireland assistant manager, supposedly wanted an angry showdown about recent 'leaks' from the dressing room from his time at the club.

However, Lambert said: "I spoke to Tom this morning really briefly and he assures me that what is being portrayed is certainly not what happened. That was it, really.

"I've probably spoken about Roy more since he's left than when he was here. I think you (should) give the guy a break.

"From the brief chat I had with Tom, it certainly wasn't how it was portrayed. That was what Tom told me this morning."

Various tabloid stories about Keane's spell at Villa Park have emerged in recent weeks.

The Manchester United legend allegedly had a fractured relationship with several senior players, most notably vice captain Gabriel Agbonlahor, due to his domineering personality.

Asked whether Keane had told Lambert he was unhappy about such stories coming out of the club, the manager said: "No. I spoke to Roy. We're good pals, not just in this regard but we're good pals in general and that will always be the same.

"Roy's obviously got his Ireland role to contend with and work on, trying to qualify for Euro 2016. There's no problem on that side. He's my pal.

"I spoke to Tom and the matter is finished."

Villa take on Manchester United in the Barclays Premier League on Saturday.

TheOneWhoKnocks

18/12/2014, 4:45 PM

"He's a good man. I wasn't there long but I enjoyed it. He was very demanding and tried hard to motivate the players. He demanded the maximum - always. We did boxes in training every day, and he was passionate about them; we couldn't lose the ball. His handshake was very firm and if he had a problem he looked you straight in the eye and talked to you."

Villarreal's Giovani Dos Santos on Roy Keane.

The Fly

18/12/2014, 5:13 PM

"I'd waited long enough. I fu*king hit the doorbell hard. The door was there (I think). Take that you cu*t!"

DannyInvincible

19/12/2014, 1:51 PM

This New Statesman article about the striving for "authenticity" in contemporary society popped up on my Facebook feed earlier after a friend had 'liked' it, so I gave it a read: http://www.newstatesman.com/lifestyle/2014/12/foodies-fashionistas-we-are-so-busy-trying-be-authentic-we-often-forget-be-real

The last thing I was expecting to see in it was a brief analysis of the authenticity of the image Roy Keane portrays for himself.

In The King’s English, Kingsley Amis’s sparkling guide to English usage, the author described some words as “rendered unusable”. These words, he argued, are so debased by voguish laziness and approximation that the careful writer ought to avoid them completely.
In his new volume Authenticity Is a Con, Peter York writes that it is time to add a new word to Amis’s “rendered unusable” list. He argues that, far from a state of guileless integrity, authenticity is now a marketing stance. Anything and everything, from foods to places, can be given the authenticity treatment, like a sepia tint.

If York has a single target in mind, a sweet spot in his Venn diagram of overlapping aspects of “authenticity”, it would be this: an extravagantly bearded young man (“Edwardian Explorer Poet”, only with access to lots of moisturiser), wearing selvedge denim (everything so lustrously matte and unflashy that it becomes more ruinously expensive than the bling it mocks), wandering through Shoreditch in east London en route to a paleo-diet brunch with some other creative types, set to a backdrop of exposed brick walls.

...

A certain type of professional sportsman turns authenticity into his house style. In the documentary Keane and Vieira, Roy Keane never missed an opportunity to describe the burgeoning hatred and violence that simmered inside him every week. Football, he said, even when winning, gave him little or no pleasure, let alone joy. There wasn’t time: he was too busy filling his mind with hatred to be ready for the next week’s warfare.

It is impossible to prove otherwise, to know what Keane really thinks. Let’s not make windows into midfielders’ souls, as Elizabeth I almost said. There was, however, a note of self-mythology in Keane’s narrative. An authentic hard man, too full of hatred to enjoy a second of glory? Perhaps. Or a man who knows how to cultivate a sense of difference from the flashy superficiality of his more conspicuous peers? Arguably, it is Ronaldo, with his wet-look hair gel and second career as an underwear model, who has a better claim to be the authentic modern footballer.

...

What, then, explains this outpouring of staged authenticity? Partly, it is the collapse of trust, the sense that the game is rigged, the system isn’t working, that the old establishment has let everyone down. “The idea of authenticity, of people levelling with you,” York argues, “appeals precisely because people feel they’ve been lied to.”

I cannot follow York all the way to his conclusion. He thinks the idea is actively counterproductive: “The idea of the authentic self . . . doesn’t allow for people developing, feeling and believing radically different things in the course of their lives, being open to change and debate.”

...

Crosby87

20/12/2014, 2:12 PM

Another article seeming to suggest Roy lives in an alternate reality.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2304948-roy-keane-ex-manchester-united-great-a-toothless-tiger

tricky_colour

20/12/2014, 8:59 PM

The other side of Roy Keane.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/520245/Roy-Keane-book-extracts-Manchester-United-Aston-Villa

Crosby87

27/01/2015, 3:13 PM

Fancy a look at Roys house?
https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/early-doors/roy-s-castle--through-the-keyhole-in-roy-keane-s-seven-bedroom-mansion-154212810.html

tricky_colour

28/01/2015, 6:32 PM

Would not mind living there myself!

punkrocket

29/01/2015, 2:39 PM

Put in an offer.

tricky_colour

30/01/2015, 4:27 PM

http://www.independent.ie/sport/police-probing-keane-incident-30951365.html

Police are investigating an alleged road rage incident involving Roy Keane.

The 43-year-old former Manchester United captain is said to have got into an altercation with a taxi driver in Altrincham town centre, which led to police being called.
A spokesman for Greater Manchester Police said: "At 11.30am, police were called to Ashley Road, Altrincham, to a report that a man had behaved aggressively towards another man.
"An investigation is under way to establish the exact circumstances surrounding the incident."
Keane, who has previously managed Sunderland and Ipswich and is currently Republic of Ireland assistant manager, lives in nearby Hale.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/police-investigate-roy-keane-road-8550472

Police are investigating an alleged road rage bust-up between Roy Keane and a taxi driver.
The former Manchester United (http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/all-about/manchester%20united%20fc) captain is accused of launching a foul-mouthed tirade after climbing out of his black Range Rover to berate the driver at traffic lights in Altrincham.

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