Martin O'Neill and Roy Keane [Archive] - Page 51

tricky_colour

03/03/2019, 7:46 AM

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tricky_colour

03/03/2019, 8:33 AM

Anyhow Forest lost and Bristol City drew, don't think I am allowed to say how that has affected their chance so I won't, but the gap has gone from 3 points to 4 points and they only have 11 games left not 12, so probably not too much, certainly an opportunity missed, they could have closed the gap to one point, I can't see them going anywhere this season they don't seem to have improved at all.
The teams close to them Derby and Birmingham also lost so I guess their chance has not changed as much as you would expect, but they can't really afford too many results like that is anyway if they are to have a chance. They are very much in the last chance saloon. Granted they may be flat on their backs but they are still in there. ;)

tricky_colour

03/03/2019, 8:49 AM

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tricky_colour

03/03/2019, 10:03 AM

She's getting a penis enlargement? Or have I just misread the thread? well the adverts would suggest I'm more likely to be getting rid of it! ;)

tricky_colour

09/03/2019, 5:14 PM

Well a good day for Forest, winning 3-0 v Hull, other results went their way.

Bristol City and Middlesbrough lost Derby drew.

Still a fair bit to do though, Bristol City have a game in hand, so they can't afford to drop too many point
if they are to even make the play offs.

Home again to Villa next, then away to bottom of the table Ipswich.

I'd say they need to win both, knowing Forest they will lose both! :D

4 West Brom .....36 20 61
5 Middlesbrough 35 13 58
6 Derby............ 36 2 . 55
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7 Bristol City...... 35 7.. 54
8 Nottm Forest... 36 10 53

tricky_colour

13/03/2019, 3:54 PM

Bristol drew so just 2 points off a play off place, a win and anything other than a win for their two rivals would put them in a playoff spot.
So very doable. Then a playoff win puts them in the top flight!!

tricky_colour

14/03/2019, 12:11 PM

Well Forest lost so back to square one, so 3-5 points to make up depending on how their game in hand goes.
It always seem to be just out of their grasp, but with 9 games to go it's still a possibility.

geysir

14/03/2019, 5:46 PM

Given if he was available when Rodgers fled for the EPL lure, would MON have considered or been seriously considered for the Celtic job?
Somehow I suspect he wouldn't have been considered or welcomed by the fans even though he's held in very high regard by both.

tricky_colour

17/03/2019, 1:36 AM

Well a draw away to bottom of the table club Ipswich, another opportunity missed.

geysir

06/04/2019, 6:39 PM

How much longer will the hoofball circus last at Nottingham Forest? The Forest fans must be at the end of their tether.

Cathalsmart

06/04/2019, 9:37 PM

Will go like their other campaign, instant impact but will long term be more and more painful to watch.

DeLorean

23/06/2019, 11:08 AM

Keane has left Forest - https://www.nottinghamforest.co.uk/news/2019/june/roy-keane-departs/

DeLorean

28/06/2019, 12:28 PM

O'Neill gone now too. Sacked it appears - https://www.nottinghamforest.co.uk/news/2019/june/club-statement/

seanfhear

28/06/2019, 12:38 PM

O'Neill gone now too. Sacked it appears - https://www.nottinghamforest.co.uk/news/2019/june/club-statement/
I wonder was it the Dinosaur Football ?

geysir

28/06/2019, 12:43 PM

O'Neill gone now too. Sacked it appears - https://www.nottinghamforest.co.uk/news/2019/june/club-statement/

That's what you'd call a brief statement.

seanfhear

28/06/2019, 12:45 PM

I wonder will the Two Amigos enlighten us ?

DeLorean

28/06/2019, 12:56 PM

That's what you'd call a brief statement.

For sure. Nottingham Post speculating further - https://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/football-news/martin-oneill-sacked-forest-breaking-3030966

Forest are understood to have taken action following suggestions his relationship with senior players had deteriorated.

Edit: Forest not hanging around - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48800839

Fizzer

28/06/2019, 1:07 PM

Does this suggest that Forest tried to ease both O�Neill and Keane out but O�Neill dug the heels in and forced them to sack him? Presumably he wanted a payday

Kingdom

28/06/2019, 1:39 PM

Sabri Lamouchi was one of my favourite all-time players for Parma, even though he was probably past his peak when signed despite being relatively unknown this side of the world I reckon. He was a really really smooth player, and if he coaches like he played, then Forest are going to see some very fluid football.

geysir

28/06/2019, 2:53 PM

For sure. Nottingham Post speculating further - https://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/football-news/martin-oneill-sacked-forest-breaking-3030966

I'm glad the article refers to him as the "Northern Irishman".

geysir

28/06/2019, 2:54 PM

DeLorean

28/06/2019, 3:25 PM

I think it's safe to say Kingdom didn't write his Wikipedia page! - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabri_Lamouchi

He then went on to join Monaco (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS_Monaco_FC), who he helped to the Ligue 1 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ligue_1) title in 2000, before being snapped up by Parma (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.S.D._Parma_Calcio_1913) of Italy. Even though he had an average season, he was again on the move this time to Italian giants Internazionale (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter_Milan). He also struggled there, and failed to win a place in the team.

geysir

28/06/2019, 4:41 PM

It's also safe to say Nottm Post didn't write his wiki page either.

'But who is Lamouchi?
French international : During his playing days, the midfielder turned out for a host of star studded clubs including Marseille, Parma and Inter Milan.
He was, however, at the peak of his powers during his time at Monaco, during which time he picked up 12 caps for his native France, scoring once.'

Fixer82

01/07/2019, 11:40 PM

A lot of people delighted that O�Neill has failed at Forest it seems.
The last year with ROI was a disaster but when I think of O�Neill�s era for Ireland I think of O�Shea against Germany, Long against Germany, Brady scoring in the fog, Walters sending us to the Euros in the second leg, Sweden and Italy in the Euros, putting it up to a fresher France in the Euros who should�ve won that competition and went on to win the World Cup in style.
And of course that famous 7-0 win against Gibraltar!!!

Kingdom

02/07/2019, 9:20 AM

You know too much

In true half-glass empty form, I'm going to take that as both sarcasm, an insult and a threat. Thankfully I'll claim diplomatic immunity for any kneecappings.

bennocelt

02/07/2019, 12:44 PM

Diggs246

02/07/2019, 12:59 PM

Really?

You can be a dick if your winning, but if your a dick and your losing then your in serious hot water

geysir

03/07/2019, 10:34 PM

A lot of people delighted that O’Neill has failed at Forest it seems.
The last year with ROI was a disaster but when I think of O’Neill’s era for Ireland I think of O’Shea against Germany, Long against Germany, Brady scoring in the fog, Walters sending us to the Euros in the second leg, Sweden and Italy in the Euros, putting it up to a fresher France in the Euros who should’ve won that competition and went on to win the World Cup in style.
And of course that famous 7-0 win against Gibraltar!!!
Where do you see the delight? Don't mistake delight for expectation of the inevitable. It was a bad expensive move by Nottm Forest to appoint the duo, this was flagged from the off.
And MON should have stood up for and supported Arter over and above the interests of bootboy Keane, those type of things matter a lot to a team.
Co

Fixer82

16/07/2019, 6:38 PM

Where do you see the delight? Don't mistake delight for expectation of the inevitable. It was a bad expensive move by Nottm Forest to appoint the duo, this was flagged from the off.
And MON should have stood up for and supported Arter over and above the interests of bootboy Keane, those type of things matter a lot to a team.
Co

Perhaps not as much here as on The 42 and elsewhere. My real point was that I have great memories from O'Neill's era and I thank him and his team for that, as much as it fell apart in the last year.

DeLorean

17/07/2019, 9:19 AM

Where do you see the delight? Don't mistake delight for expectation of the inevitable.

Oh there was delight, it may have been invisible to the naked foot.ie eye, but it was there in abundance. I'm with Fixer though generally, despite the last year or so being a real low and MON being a major part of that. He still oversaw some of our best times, which don't come around very often.

OMTY

07/05/2020, 11:26 AM

Some interesting tidbits on O'Neill's management style from an article (https://theathletic.com/1790695/2020/05/05/aston-villa-oneill-martin-agbonlahor-cska-2009-season-europe/) on the 08/09 Villa season on The Athletic.

Before each game, Martin O’Neill would walk into the Aston Villa dressing room and stare intently at his matchday notes.
The players already knew what was coming and would start sniggering and laughing between themselves, hoping not to catch the manager’s eye. “Same team, same subs” O’Neill would say with conviction, removing any need for holding what was in his hand with those four words that become synonymous with that season.
“It became a running joke between the lads,” laughs Steve Sidwell when discussing with The Athletic the 2008-09 season where Villa missed out on the chance to rock the top order in the Premier League. “We were actually going to buy a racehorse, put on Villa’s colours and call it ‘same team same subs’.”
O’Neill, in the words of his former Villa colleagues, was a “creature of habit”. He had a core group of around 13 first-team favourites and felt there was no need to rotate a team when it was performing well and winning, which at Villa was the case for a large chunk of that particular season.

Tactically, there wasn’t much attention to detail and training wasn’t always as high and intense as it would have been under other managers. Set-piece practice rarely existed and instead it was “let Martin Laursen jump up and win every header”. There wouldn’t be much game-to-game variation either, as Davies explains: “If there was a plan, it was our better players win us the game, we never had clear tactical guidance. It was: read the names from the team sheet, go out and win the game. Our only alternative was, instead of using all the players, give it to Ash (Young)!

seanfhear

07/05/2020, 12:20 PM

Some interesting tidbits on O'Neill's management style from an article (https://theathletic.com/1790695/2020/05/05/aston-villa-oneill-martin-agbonlahor-cska-2009-season-europe/) on the 08/09 Villa season on The Athletic.
Surprising the North are not looking at him. Sure Roy would be great up there if things went wrong with a gang of Loyalists out for....... ! !

Fixer82

07/05/2020, 12:55 PM

I'm glad the article refers to him as the "Northern Irishman".

Why???

DeLorean

08/05/2020, 7:12 PM

Some interesting tidbits on O'Neill's management style from an article (https://theathletic.com/1790695/2020/05/05/aston-villa-oneill-martin-agbonlahor-cska-2009-season-europe/) on the 08/09 Villa season on The Athletic.

For all the mocking, he was easily Villa's best manager of the last 10-15 years and, let's face it, ours too. It's not saying a lot, but it is saying something.

irishfan86

08/05/2020, 7:31 PM

It�s certainly easy to mock. But it�s easier said than done to identify your best XI and get the best out of them on a consistent basis. Certainly it seems he doesn�t overanalyze the game � that�s clear.

But perhaps he�s enjoyed some success as a relative counterbalance to managers who get into what many would see as irrelevant minutiae. For some players it could be initially refreshing to not have the micromanagement that has become so dominant at the highest level.

Fixer82

08/05/2020, 7:43 PM

He was a revelation to Celtic also when he took over.

NeverFeltBetter

12/09/2023, 11:35 AM

Stuttgart88

12/09/2023, 11:42 AM

The last year of MON was desperate stuff. And when senior players like Doherty said he didn't even take training it gave the impression he wasn't even that committed. I think he's a *****ly character who doesn't take criticism well. He should have a thicker skin imho.

irishfan86

12/09/2023, 2:26 PM

Some pretty bitter comments here, regards Kenny and O'Neill's own departure: https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2023/0911/1404711-bitter-oneill-claims-kenny-was-anointed-by-the-media/

Does he have a point? I don't know if he was treated differently to any manager before him, but I certainly agree that Kenny has gotten a very easy ride for a very long time.

I think O�Neill has a point but doesn�t come across well by making it.

There were periods where O�Neill had the team playing as more than the sum of its parts, but near the end, it definitely felt like time for a change.

I think Kenny has been given more time because there�s a widespread feeling this squad is incredibly weak/young. We needed a complete rebuild and I don�t think many managers in world football would have been able to bring us to qualification with these players.

As we approach the next campaign, some of these guys will be a year older, Evan Ferguson will hopefully continue to improve even further.

I�m sympathetic to Kenny in some ways and I admire his push to get this team to play possession football, but a fresh start is probably needed.

geysir

12/09/2023, 10:23 PM

Some pretty bitter comments here, regards Kenny and O'Neill's own departure: https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2023/0911/1404711-bitter-oneill-claims-kenny-was-anointed-by-the-media/

Does he have a point? I don't know if he was treated differently to any manager before him, but I certainly agree that Kenny has gotten a very easy ride for a very long time.

It's not a straight line to compare what each manager had and achieved but let's take one perspective on the the plaudits he receives for qual for Euro 2016.
Before the 2016 Euros there have been 6 campaigns since 1988. With a similar 2016 qual criteria that MO'N had, we could have qualified direct some 4 times after finishing in the top 2 and in the other 2 campaigns we would've been in the reckoning for the playoffs after finishing 3rd, even Stan's Ireland finished 3rd.
Does he have a point? one of the world's highest paid managers along with highest paid side kick in the history of football, after a sh'ite last campaign, at a time when the FAI was just about to collapse? I'd have a lot of respect for MO'N but little time for his sarcasm, his lack of graciousness in this respect and his sense of entitlement. He should take a leaf out of Mick's book when it comes to certain aspects of character.

EalingGreen

10/05/2024, 11:17 AM

A random one here (if he goes ahead with it, that is), esp since he succeeded Howard Wilkinson as Chair of the (English) League Managers Association only last month, usually a position for someone whose management career has wound down:

"Former Ireland boss Martin O�Neill may be set for a return to management in Romania"

It�s been almost five years since the 72-year-old�s last job after he was sacked by Nottingham Forest, but it has now emerged that Romanian top-flight side Rapid Bucharest are reportedly working on bringing O�Neill in as their new boss.

It would be O�Neill�s first club job outside of the UK in his managerial career, with Fanatik reporting that the club are hoping to secure the Derryman�s signature after Cristiano Bergodi was sacked last month following a disastrous start to the play-off series. The club have two games remaining this month before the campaign ends.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/former-ireland-boss-martin-oneill-set-for-return-to-management-with-romanian-club/a746182956.html?utm_source=independent&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_content=zone_name&utm_term=0-0&utm_campaign=IN:Soccer&hConversionEventId=AQEAAZQF2gAmdjYwMDAwMDE4Zi02MWF kLWM4OTQtYTBmNS1mZjYwMTg4YmRmNGLaACRhMjgyNTc4Ny1kO WVjLTQwOGEtMDAwMC0wMjFlZjNhMGJjY2PaACQ5YjdkYWUwNi0 1MDRjLTRjM2QtOTg2OC1jY2RkMTY1YmFhZmXoYIznS6blGVYMc yTKNJEB-7rgBvARAr1-XBOq2-0rsA

https://www.leaguemanagers.com/latest-news/lma-welcomes-martin-oneill-obe-as-new-chair

EalingGreen

10/05/2024, 5:00 PM

"Former Ireland boss Martin O�Neill may be set for a return to management in Romania"
... it has now emerged that Romanian top-flight side Rapid Bucharest are reportedly working on bringing O�Neill in as their new boss.

Look who else is in the running. Allegedly.

"Neil Lennon could be set for a surprise return to management after entering into talks with Romanian club Rapid Bucharest."
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/24310889.neil-lennon-verge-return-management/?ref=ebmps&nid=1223&block=article_block_a&u=fe7163adb18557409be4f42db4659631&date=100524

seanfhear

10/05/2024, 5:05 PM

Look who else is in the running. Allegedly.

"Neil Lennon could be set for a surprise return to management after entering into talks with Romanian club Rapid Bucharest."
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/24310889.neil-lennon-verge-return-management/?ref=ebmps&nid=1223&block=article_block_a&u=fe7163adb18557409be4f42db4659631&date=100524Shirley, Neil Lennon is far more realistic than Martin O'Neill ~ You'd think Martin O'Neill would be too savvy to take on such a risky proposition, for what I expect would Not be that great of money !

tetsujin1979

02/01/2025, 11:30 AM

O'Neill is the guest on The Overlap this week
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tetsujin1979

29/03/2025, 9:48 PM

Martin O'Neill on Tommy Tiernan tonight

Fixer82

30/03/2025, 1:19 PM

Martin O'Neill on Tommy Tiernan tonight

Anything to report?

tetsujin1979

30/03/2025, 2:28 PM

Anything to report?
Not much to be honest. Spent the majority of the interview talking about his playing career. Tommy was caught for words a few times during the interview, which is strange from him.

TonyD

30/03/2025, 7:38 PM

Not much to be honest. Spent the majority of the interview talking about his playing career. Tommy was caught for words a few times during the interview, which is strange from him.

I think Tommy was trying to get personal, as he does, and trying to get O�Neill to open up, but O�Neill wasn�t having any of it. The perfect example was when he asked him about crying, and O�Neill pivoted the question to talking about regrets in his playing career. There�s something about him that I can�t really take to.

Fixer82

31/03/2025, 9:17 AM

I think Tommy was trying to get personal, as he does, and trying to get O�Neill to open up, but O�Neill wasn�t having any of it. The perfect example was when he asked him about crying, and O�Neill pivoted the question to talking about regrets in his playing career. There�s something about him that I can�t really take to.

I met O'Neill the other night and he said he really likes you