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TheOneWhoKnocks
16/03/2014, 12:29 AM
People saying James McCarthy needs to be more aggressive, assertive and vocal and then they show condescension towards Roy Keane and reduce to him a stereotype because of his aggression and assertiveness. :rolleyes:
SkStu
16/03/2014, 12:37 AM
People saying James McCarthy needs to be more aggressive, assertive and vocal and then they show condescension towards Roy Keane and reduce to him a stereotype because of his aggression and assertiveness. :rolleyes:


I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest there may be a middle ground.

Again.
Grafter
17/03/2014, 12:58 PM
Nice little article in Sunday Times yesterday by Paul Rowan in relation to Keane's ITV career and conflict of interests with Ireland. Firstly we have a friendly the day after Champions League Final. Saying that Keane is ITV's trump card that night in ratings battle with Sky, would he leave Irish camp midstream for tv work?
Secondly and similar to Gary Neville's position, Rowan highlights Keane commenting on Irish players a few days after he worked with them. Refers to what he said about Coleman after Arsenal FA Cup defeat (and 4 days after Serbia defeat).... heard it myself, he said Coleman still has things to learn etc.... I thought at the time Keane was on shaky ground commenting on his players as a pundit like that...
BonnieShels
17/03/2014, 3:51 PM
Keane saying that a doubtlessly talented Irish player "has things to learn" is hardly a bad thing. And no doubt he has probably mentioned it to Seamie in person during squad sessions.

If Keane had called Seamie "brutal and not up to it" then maybe we could have an issue. But if Seamie was actually brutal and not up to it he wouldn't be playing for Ireland.

The conflict-of-interest is hardly any worse than when club managers are commenting on games.

I fail to see where Keane's role as International assistant manager is an actual conflict with his role as a pundit?

Keane will no doubt be in Lisbon the night of the game for ITV and will no doubt be back for the game v Turkey. It couldn't actually harm the squad's preparations, given he is the ASSISTANT after all!
TheOneWhoKnocks
17/03/2014, 5:46 PM
I'm not going to touch this one with a ten foot pole.
geysir
17/03/2014, 8:43 PM
Nice little article in Sunday Times yesterday by Paul Rowan in relation to Keane's ITV career and conflict of interests with Ireland. Firstly we have a friendly the day after Champions League Final. Saying that Keane is ITV's trump card that night in ratings battle with Sky, would he leave Irish camp midstream for tv work?
Secondly and similar to Gary Neville's position, Rowan highlights Keane commenting on Irish players a few days after he worked with them. Refers to what he said about Coleman after Arsenal FA Cup defeat (and 4 days after Serbia defeat).... heard it myself, he said Coleman still has things to learn etc.... I thought at the time Keane was on shaky ground commenting on his players as a pundit like that...
He's said nothing much so far on the Irish players. What does he do? hold back on the scorn? or dare I say it .... heaven forbid ..... fake his punditry?

Maybe he just sees himself as a cone setter, not a serious manager like Ferguson. And one who'd rather make impact in the football world as the acerbic angry box office pundit. How the Mighty have fallen :rolleyes:
Stuttgart88
17/03/2014, 9:03 PM
I thought he was only doing European matches. Not much chance of Irish players featuring there.
geysir
17/03/2014, 9:14 PM
Don't ITV cover the FA cup?

Maybe they don't front their first team for that event :)
BonnieShels
17/03/2014, 10:05 PM
I thought he was only doing European matches. Not much chance of Irish players featuring there.

Anthony Stokes did, once or twice.

Let us remember the good times.
BonnieShels
17/03/2014, 10:05 PM
I'm not going to touch this one with a ten foot pole.

Clearly I'm using the wrong bait!
TheOneWhoKnocks
17/03/2014, 10:16 PM
Anthony Stokes did, once or twice.

Let us remember the good times.

In fairness, Stokes didn't look that bad in the CL. I recall the post coming between him scoring against Milan. He also won a penalty against Ajax.
BonnieShels
17/03/2014, 11:50 PM
I wasn't criticising Mr Stokes. It was a comment on the fact that we've feck all in the CL.
Stuttgart88
18/03/2014, 11:29 AM
O'Neill wants to implement "some sort of a plan"

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/oneill-has-plenty-to-discuss-with-republic-squad-625352.html

Inspiring stuff!
geysir
18/03/2014, 12:07 PM
Some sort of plan to see as many players as possible :)
It might be an idea as a part of the (sort of) plan, to hire a press gang, to impress upon the slackers to turn up.

After they all turn up, what's next Martin?
back of the net
25/03/2014, 12:41 PM
Ah Stanley!!!!
http://www.rte.ie/sport/player/813/604435/

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/english/2014/0325/604459-collymore/
Charlie Darwin
25/03/2014, 12:45 PM
Ah, that's just poor. He'd never say that about the England manager's job considering the backlash he'd get.
back of the net
25/03/2014, 12:48 PM
Ah, that's just poor. He'd never say that about the England manager's job considering the backlash he'd get.

The guy is full of guff - Stanleys "blueprint"

Utter tool!!
Stuttgart88
25/03/2014, 1:05 PM
Here's an idea; Denis O'Brien buys Forest, employs the duo and only hires Irish players. Then everyone just flies home a few times a year and plays for Ireland.
geysir
25/03/2014, 1:26 PM
GBP6m to buy out the contract for the two,
and we can get Neil Warnock on the rebound.
Fixer82
25/03/2014, 4:00 PM
GBP6m to buy out the contract for the two,
and we can get Neil Warnock on the rebound.

It's foolproof!
ArdeeBhoy
25/03/2014, 4:47 PM
Foolish, more like...
:rolleyes:
TheOneWhoKnocks
25/03/2014, 5:14 PM
Why are we giving credence to the opinions of a degenerate gambler, alcoholic, womaniser and wife beater?

And that's all in the public domain btw.
Charlie Darwin
25/03/2014, 5:16 PM
Why are we giving credence to the opinions of a degenerate gambler, alcoholic, womaniser and wife beater?

And that's all in the public domain btw.
Why are you playing the man and not the ball?
geysir
25/03/2014, 5:53 PM
Charlie, you should invite TOWK over to the LOI forum to spend a few months there.
Charlie Darwin
25/03/2014, 6:06 PM
Charlie, you should invite TOWK over to the LOI forum to spend a few months there.
As long as you chaperone him.
TheOneWhoKnocks
25/03/2014, 7:46 PM
I'm fine up here geysir. Double entendre. I'll let you figure it out. ;)
Crosby87
25/03/2014, 11:24 PM
Roy and Marty for Forest!
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/collymore-i-dont-care-what-irish-fans-say-oneill-and-keane-ideal-for-forest-30123808.html
The Fly
25/03/2014, 11:48 PM
Stick to the dogging Stan.
tricky_colour
26/03/2014, 2:00 AM
Roy and Marty for Forest!
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/collymore-i-dont-care-what-irish-fans-say-oneill-and-keane-ideal-for-forest-30123808.html

I think it unlikely, Warnock turned it down so the money can't be very good!!
Plus they could be sacked in a couple of months!!
ArdeeBhoy
26/03/2014, 2:07 PM
Why are we giving credence to the opinions of a degenerate gambler, alcoholic, womaniser and wife beater?

And that's all in the public domain btw.
So now you're picking on Gazza?
:confused:
shakermaker1982
26/03/2014, 4:48 PM
None of the fans are mentioning MON & Keane, I think Forest's chairman has had his fingers burnt after sacking Davies (who only signed a 4 year deal last year) so I can see him only going for a fella without a job. Step forward Zola/Hoddle.
Charlie Darwin
26/03/2014, 4:51 PM
http://www.balls.ie/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/staunton-latelate06.jpg
ArdeeBhoy
26/03/2014, 4:53 PM
Well, no chance of him!
DeLorean
28/03/2014, 9:22 AM
Keane & O'Neill to do ITV World Cup coverage (http://balls.ie/football/keane-oneill-set-earn-tidy-sum-itv-world-cup-coverage/)
peadar1987
28/03/2014, 10:20 AM
Keane & O'Neill to do ITV World Cup coverage (http://balls.ie/football/keane-oneill-set-earn-tidy-sum-itv-world-cup-coverage/)

*Keane & O'Neill to done ITV World Cup Coverage
Crosby87
28/03/2014, 10:40 AM
*Keane and O'Neill to argued with Saint and Greavsie over Ruud Gullit might be out.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2009/5/29/1243608332592/Saint--Greavsie--001.jpg
geysir
28/03/2014, 11:48 AM
Noel Kings's worst fears have been realised, that the irish management team actually become the comedy joke team.
Charlie Darwin
28/03/2014, 1:11 PM
*Keane & O'Neill to done ITV World Cup Coverage
*Keane and O Neil to done ITV World Cup Coverage
geysir
30/03/2014, 7:00 PM
Overnight there appears to have been a secret coup by Roy who has assumed command,
almost confirmed in this Evening Herald article (http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/there-is-no-quick-fix-for-ireland-keane-30135187.html)

Though O'Neill is kept on in a lesser boot room role. Roy has not ruled out seeking advice from Trapattoni on how to set up the team in an organised manner to get results in international competition, seeing as neither of the current management team have a clue what to do, to beat distinctly average opposition.
Charlie Darwin
30/03/2014, 7:19 PM
That must have been one hell of a chat he had with young Stephen's grandmother.
tricky_colour
30/03/2014, 7:45 PM
I still read the title as "Roy Keane and Martin O Neil to managed Ireland"
it seems to be etched into my sub-conscious.
TheOneWhoKnocks
30/03/2014, 7:59 PM
Maybe Gary O'Neil is eligible for us through Martin O'Neil? Could be worth a look.
ArdeeBhoy
30/03/2014, 9:46 PM
Yeah, right. He even spells his name differently.
And wrongly IMO.
Crosby87
30/03/2014, 9:53 PM
Keane: Me happy me played in LOI.
http://soccerly.com/article/finnal/roy-keane-praises-league-of-ireland
ArdeeBhoy
08/04/2014, 10:05 AM
http://balls.ie/football/gavin-mccann-wasnt-nice-martin-oneill-court-hears/
paul_oshea
08/04/2014, 11:25 AM
I heard a rumour the england game has been put down for next june.

And there is an offer on tickets for that game plus gilbraltar and scotland.
Fixer82
09/04/2014, 11:03 AM
I heard a rumour the england game has been put down for next june.

And there is an offer on tickets for that game plus gilbraltar and scotland.

Irish people don't have a great history of being lucky in Gibraltar
Crosby87
09/04/2014, 1:31 PM
Court hears that MOL may be a weirdo, according to McCann.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2599067/Tell-weirdo-Martin-ONeill-let-Agent-uses-text-messages-Gavin-McCann-Bolton-case.html
Stuttgart88
09/04/2014, 1:40 PM
What has Michael O'Leary got to do with this?
DannyInvincible
09/04/2014, 5:19 PM
Apparently, O'Leary is also going to try and coax Stephen Ireland back into the fold - with the help of Roy Keane - which is a bit weird for a man in his position, to be fair. I'd have at least expected Martin O'Neill to be getting involved in this sort of thing rather than passing the buck off to his assistant and an airline CEO, but it's clear he's shirking his duties already!


Can I ask a serious question I have? Are they (MOL and Roy) going to ask [Stephen Ireland] to comeback or not? Like, who is instigating this.