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hedderman
19/10/2010, 12:46 PM
Changed economic circumstances?

Dodge
19/10/2010, 1:30 PM
summer football too

pineapple stu
20/10/2010, 12:40 PM
Averages after round 34. Official figures in bold. Club averages in bold means more than half of their figures are official.


PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 1,800 (2009 - 2,366; 2008 - 1,993; 2007 - 1,924; 2006 - 1,463; 2005 - 1,976) (missing Sligo 2)
Bray - 831 (1,169; 1,106; 1,200; 1,027; 1,550)
Drogheda - 895 (1,106; 1,631; 1,919; 1,751; 1,682)
Dundalk - 1,908 (2,371; 1,459 FD; 1,406 FD; 1,078 FD; 474 FD)
Galway - 856 (1,076; 1,393; 2,199; 1,148 FD; 566 FD)
Pat's - 1,801 (1,631; 1,795; 1,910; 1,342; 1,599)
Rovers - 3,803 (3,611; 1,468; 1,715; 1,089 FD; 1,539) (missing Fingal 2)
Sligo - 1,749 (1,756; 1,960; 1,448; 1,806; 1,794 FD)
Sporting Fingal - 913 (635 FD; 688 FD)
UCD - 614 (272 FD; 546; 663; 546; 653; 306 FD)

FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 370 (462; 387; 670; 421; 316)
Cork - 1,728 (2,681 PD; 3,142 PD; 2,897 PD; 2,941 PD; 3,644 PD)
Derry - 1,833 (2,436 PD; 3,363 PD; 2,614 PD; 3,229 PD; 2,698 PD)
Harps - 661 (480; 1,607 PD; 1,164; 428; 1,347 PD; 1,106) (missing Limerick 2)
Limerick - 610 (429; 517; 670; 364; 669)
Longford - 236 (260; 406; 885 PD; 681 PD; 1,004 PD) (missing Derry 2, Shels 2 and Waterford 2)
Mervue - 123 (166) (missing Shels and Salthill 2)
Monaghan - 240 (183; 177; 292; 204; 183) (missing Athlone 2, Limerick 2, Longford 2, Mervue, Salthill, Shels and Waterford 2)
Salthill Devon - 122 (N/A) (missing Derry 2, Mervue and Monaghan 2)
Shels - 703 (972; 986; 888; 1,690 PD; 1,949 PD)
Waterford - 618 (434; 670; 1,181 PD; 915 PD; 1,513 PD)
Wexford - 328 (494; 767; 810) (missing Monaghan 2 and Salthill 2)

Premier Division average - 1,502 (2,010; 1,746; 1,687; 1,535; 1,759)
First Division average - 664 (417; 641; 722; 570; 520)

Overall average - 1,083 (1,175; 1,221; 1,235; 1,070; 1,195)

Attendances for last weekend (i.e. the figures I've gone with) -

Premier Division
UCD v Dundalk - 500
Sporting Fingal v Galway United - 607

First Division
Finn Harps v Cork City FC - 474
Longford Town v Waterford United - no figure yet
Monaghan United v Limerick - no figure yet
Shelbourne v Mervue United - 632
Wexford Youths v Athlone Town - 250
Salthill Devon v Derry City - no figure yet

Recent games missing -
Longford v Waterford
Monaghan v Limerick
Salthill v Derry

TheBoss
20/10/2010, 2:58 PM
Wexford v Athlone is guessed here: http://foot.ie/threads/142700-Athlone?p=1412928&viewfull=1#post1412928 @ 250

gufc2000
20/10/2010, 5:52 PM
Monaghan - 240 (183; 177; 292; 204; 183) (missing Athlone 2, Limerick 2, Longford 2, Mervue, Salthill, Shels and Waterford 2)

Hard to work out Monaghan's average when they havent an attendance recorded for the last 7 home games! Any Mons out there able to update their attendances?

Lim till i die
21/10/2010, 3:08 PM
Find that hard to believe. Was up in Jackman Park last night for Pike vs Fairview in the Touhy Cup and there was only about 100 to 150 max. While i know the FAI Junior Cup match was a bigger game and there was probably a bigger crowd at it i still think there is too big a difference between 150 people and 1,200 for basically the same match.

Also Lim Till I Die from what i saw last night if Fairview are supposed to be the second best team in Limerick then Pike are the only team that would stand any chance in the First Division. Big difference in the two teams.


which clubs are they and do you think any of them are interested in joining the a league ?

Wouldn't have believed the crowd myself tbh but a few people said it....... I dunno, I wasn't there! :)

I meant more they would probably have the financial clout (for want of a better term) if they felt like it rather than the actual standard they are at now, although no one will tell me Pike are much worse as it stands than Salthill!!

And Tony, they would have less interest in joining the League of Ireland than Real Madrid would (all this talk on here of pyramid systems baffles me tbh.)

Lim till i die
21/10/2010, 3:09 PM
Is that the same place Limerick played in 2004?

Tis. I think they're building new dressing rooms.

Schumi
21/10/2010, 3:22 PM
Tis. I think they're building new dressing rooms.

With toilets I hope. The sight of players coming into the bar for a **** before the game was one of the stranger things I've seen at a LOI game.

gufc2000
22/10/2010, 9:23 PM
1082 in Terryland tonight, mainly thanks to a large Bohs contingent. There must have been 500/600 of them

bullit
22/10/2010, 9:26 PM
DundalkFC live updates on Facebook say:

Dundalk FC Direct from Oriel Park (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dundalk-Ireland/Dundalk-FC-Direct-from-Oriel-Park/273061602083) 2123: Estimated attendance here 1,350.


And is on the nail imo.

Spudulika
22/10/2010, 10:22 PM
I counted close to 600 at UCD-Sligo Rovers tonight, good crowd in from both sides, especially as leading up to the match there was miserable weather and the red players were delayed due to a crash on the M50. Horrible reffing though.

Sam_Heggy
22/10/2010, 10:40 PM
I'd say there was well over 5000 in the Brandywell tonight.
The stand was full so that's about 3000 and there was easily over 2000 on the other side of the ground.
Pathetic away support, just over 300 I'd say.

MariborKev
22/10/2010, 11:38 PM
Stand was full so that 2400 SH, plus say another 200 "standing" in it.

4,000. Tops.

bullit
22/10/2010, 11:44 PM
Stand was full so that 2400 SH, plus say another 200 "standing" in it.

4,000. Tops.
Thats a helluva crowd,yee will be standing on the pastures and the cowpats next week in gortakeegan judgeing by this!

osarusan
23/10/2010, 12:40 AM
425 at Limerick vs Shels.

gufc2000
23/10/2010, 9:22 AM
Extratime just says it was the smallest crowd of the season at Flancare Park for Longford and Wexford

paudie
23/10/2010, 12:04 PM
Cork city v Salthill - 1,172 to see us make Salthill look really good!

DaveyPats
23/10/2010, 2:13 PM
I'd say 1200 max in Richmond last night.

Darkglasses
23/10/2010, 3:53 PM
Poor attendance again at Longford last night, 180ish I guess.

Nah Nah Nah Nah
23/10/2010, 4:13 PM
Times has the following

Terryland 1,080
Oriel Park 1,400
Belfield 450
Richmond 900
Tallaght 3,650

Candystripe
23/10/2010, 9:56 PM
Derry City V Finn Harps Att 3,951 saw Derry clinch the league despite Harps busting their balls to confirm 7th place in the league for themselves :P

That was very good considering it was ****ing down the whole game!About 1,000 poor souls had to stand out in it as the back of the stand was full (200ish) with people standing the whole way across almost.

Stu, all the figures this year don't include the Glentoran stand which has always at least 100 in it (180 last night).

osarusan
23/10/2010, 11:48 PM
Derry City V Finn Harps Att 3,951 saw Derry clinch the league despite Harps busting their balls to confirm 7th place in the league for themselves :P

That's a fairly skewed view of how the result would have been viewed at the time, I'd imagine.

GalwayRed
24/10/2010, 12:17 PM
Stu, all the figures this year don't include the Glentoran stand which has always at least 100 in it (180 last night).
Just out of curiosity, why is that?

Rocketman
24/10/2010, 3:50 PM
Cause we are using that money to pay the 2nd contracts :)

OneForTheFuture
25/10/2010, 8:28 AM
Cause we are using that money to pay the 2nd contracts :)

I'd hit the "Thanks" there only I am afraid it could be true.....

GalwayRed
25/10/2010, 10:12 AM
Cause we are using that money to pay the 2nd contracts :)
Must be expensive enough gettin a ticket in that stand so:)

Finlay Harp
25/10/2010, 4:36 PM
[QUOTE=Candystripe;1415974]Derry City V Finn Harps Att 3,951 saw Derry clinch the league despite Harps busting their balls to confirm 7th place in the league for themselves :P

Forgive us for not rolling over and letting you have the league on a plate. Seems to be in Derry it's only a derby when it suits.

brendy_éire
25/10/2010, 4:42 PM
Just out of curiosity, why is that?

I assume it's because the people in that stand aren't charged for admittance. The seats aren't individual, but are a long bench type, so I don't think it meets licensing requirements. We can't charge for them, but we can let people in for free. Think that's how it works anyway.


Seems to be in Derry it's only a derby when it suits.

What? How isn't it a derby?

Finlay Harp
25/10/2010, 5:58 PM
I assume it's because the people in that stand aren't charged for admittance. The seats aren't individual, but are a long bench type, so I don't think it meets licensing requirements. We can't charge for them, but we can let people in for free. Think that's how it works anyway.



What? How isn't it a derby?

You missed the point totally!

Candystripe
25/10/2010, 6:17 PM
Just out of curiosity, why is that?


I assume it's because the people in that stand aren't charged for admittance. The seats aren't individual, but are a long bench type, so I don't think it meets licensing requirements. We can't charge for them, but we can let people in for free. Think that's how it works anyway.



What? How isn't it a derby?

Thank's Brendy,that is exactly what I was told. I just assumed they were counted.

The people in there are directors of both clubs,sponsors,players,players families,VIP's and media.



Why would you think it wasn't a derby??????????????????

oriel
26/10/2010, 2:41 PM
Derry/Finn Harps is one of the biggest derby's in Irish football, top 3 anyway.

Pineapple, would it be possible after this weekend to post something up showing each teams highest and lowest crowd of the season, if its too much work, then no worries, this must take up a lot of your time as it is.

Thanks by the way for all your hard work with all of this.

pineapple stu
26/10/2010, 3:00 PM
Pineapple, would it be possible after this weekend to post something up showing each teams highest and lowest crowd of the season, if its too much work, then no worries, this must take up a lot of your time as it is.
Nah, that's fairly straightforward; it's an Excel formula which I have in the sheet anyways.

I'll post an update tomorrow. I don't think the 450 for us v Sligo in the Irish Times was official though; 550 was the number I heard mentioned at the game (an approximation of the official crowd, I'd say), and it's what I was thinking at the time. A bit more of a crowd than against Dundalk, which I have in as 500.

Sam_Heggy
26/10/2010, 3:35 PM
Derry/Finn Harps is one of the biggest derby's in Irish football, top 3 anyway.
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I would have it 3rd at the minute with only Bohs/Rovers and Linfield/Glens bigger.
I would also say it's easily safer than the other 2 to attend.
There is slagging and a hatred but both sets of fans can easily stand together (when I say together I mean beside each other :) ) at a match.
Both sets of fans take on each other in a game in a few weeks time, should be fun.

peadar1987
27/10/2010, 1:05 AM
Derry/Finn Harps is one of the biggest derby's in Irish football, top 3 anyway.


It'd depend on which Dublin teams were doing well, but it'd be up there with Dundalk/Drogheda, any permutation of Bohs, Shels, Pats and Shams, but still miles behind the spectacle that is El Clasico at the Flan Siro!

bullit
27/10/2010, 1:32 AM
It'd depend on which Dublin teams were doing well, but it'd be up there with Dundalk/Drogheda, any permutation of Bohs, Shels, Pats and Shams, but still miles behind the spectacle that is El Clasico at the Flan Siro!
LOL:D
Dundalk V Drogs is no big shakes in DundalkFC terms anyway.It was always Shams or Bohs that done it for us.The Louth Derby **** only got interesting when the Drogs won/bought a cup & a leauge and we were stuck a division below.In the years that all have been equal(both sides in the prem leauge) we have dominated easily enough as per usual.
I wish our "Derby" match was with Newry City. just 12 miles north of us:pill:;)

oriel
27/10/2010, 12:33 PM
I was really talking about LOI games. Agree re the drogs games for us, unusual for us that a team from 20 miles away would get a lower crowd that the likes of Rovers and Bohs, always our top 2 crowds. hopefully Derry will challenge that from next season.

ps Bullit, Newry had their chance to join up in 1983 when they returned to senior football, they made the wrong choice to return to the IL. Would have suited them much better to play LOI, especially with 3 other Ulster clubs in that years first ever FD, Finn Harps, Derry and Mons (and drogs not too far away either)

punkrocket
27/10/2010, 1:17 PM
[QUOTE][Newry had their chance to join up in 1983 /QUOTE]

Did they? I thought that Derry was a one off, special dispensation job.

ndrog
27/10/2010, 3:01 PM
LOL:D
Dundalk V Drogs is no big shakes in DundalkFC terms anyway.It was always Shams or Bohs that done it for us.The Louth Derby **** only got interesting when the Drogs won/bought a cup & a leauge and we were stuck a division below.In the years that all have been equal(both sides in the prem leauge) we have dominated easily enough as per usual.
I wish our "Derby" match was with Newry City. just 12 miles north of us:pill:;)

Very true . We had bigger fish to fry when you where in the graveyard for 8 years , dynamo kiev etc . Good times . No wheres my discover Ireland road map gone ?

pineapple stu
27/10/2010, 3:19 PM
Averages after round 35. Official figures in bold. Club averages in bold means more than half of their figures are official.


PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 1,800 (2009 - 2,366; 2008 - 1,993; 2007 - 1,924; 2006 - 1,463; 2005 - 1,976) (missing Sligo 2)
Bray - 831 (1,169; 1,106; 1,200; 1,027; 1,550)
Drogheda - 895 (1,106; 1,631; 1,919; 1,751; 1,682)
Dundalk - 1,877 (2,371; 1,459 FD; 1,406 FD; 1,078 FD; 474 FD)
Galway - 869 (1,076; 1,393; 2,199; 1,148 FD; 566 FD)
Pat's - 1,756 (1,631; 1,795; 1,910; 1,342; 1,599)
Rovers - 3,794 (3,611; 1,468; 1,715; 1,089 FD; 1,539) (missing Fingal 2)
Sligo - 1,749 (1,756; 1,960; 1,448; 1,806; 1,794 FD)
Sporting Fingal - 913 (635 FD; 688 FD)
UCD - 610 (272 FD; 546; 663; 546; 653; 306 FD)

FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 370 (462; 387; 670; 421; 316)
Cork - 1,693 (2,681 PD; 3,142 PD; 2,897 PD; 2,941 PD; 3,644 PD)
Derry - 1,965 (2,436 PD; 3,363 PD; 2,614 PD; 3,229 PD; 2,698 PD)
Harps - 661 (480; 1,607 PD; 1,164; 428; 1,347 PD; 1,106) (missing Limerick 2)
Limerick - 598 (429; 517; 670; 364; 669)
Longford - 232 (260; 406; 885 PD; 681 PD; 1,004 PD) (missing Derry 2, Shels 2 and Waterford 2)
Mervue - 123 (166) (missing Monaghan 2, Shels and Salthill 2)
Monaghan - 240 (183; 177; 292; 204; 183) (missing Athlone 2, Limerick 2, Longford 2, Mervue, Salthill, Shels and Waterford 2)
Salthill Devon - 122 (N/A) (missing Derry 2, Mervue and Monaghan 2)
Shels - 699 (972; 986; 888; 1,690 PD; 1,949 PD)
Waterford - 619 (434; 670; 1,181 PD; 915 PD; 1,513 PD)
Wexford - 334 (494; 767; 810) (missing Monaghan 2 and Salthill 2)

Premier Division average - 1,502 (2,010; 1,746; 1,687; 1,535; 1,759)
First Division average - 683 (417; 641; 722; 570; 520)

Overall average - 1,093 (1,175; 1,221; 1,235; 1,070; 1,195)

Attendances for last weekend (i.e. the figures I've gone with) -

Premier Division
Dundalk v Sporting Fingal - 1350
Galway United v Bohemians - 1082
Shamrock Rovers v Drogheda United - 3650
St. Patricks Athletic v Bray Wanderers - 1000
UCD v Sligo Rovers - 550

First Division
Cork City FC v Salthill Devon - 1172
Derry City v Finn Harps - 3951
Limerick v Shelbourne - 425
Longford Town v Wexford Youths - 180
Waterford United v Athlone Town - 620
Mervue United v Monaghan United - no figure yet

Recent games missing -
Mervue v Monaghan

pineapple stu
27/10/2010, 3:23 PM
And as per oriel's request -


Team Top Low
PREMIER DIVISION
Shamrock Rovers 5,500 2,500
Dundalk 3,200 1,150
Saint Pat's Ath 4,278 1,000
Bohemians 3,400 890
Sligo Rovers 2,858 1,420
Sporting Fingal 1,564 389
Drogheda United 1,650 350
Galway United 1,260 634
Bray Wanderers 2,000 250
UCD 1,986 302


FIRST DIVISION
Derry City 3,951 1,045
Cork City 4,401 884
Shelbourne 1,004 459
Finn Harps 1,750 420
Waterford Utd 1,300 300
Limerick FC 1,470 259
Athlone Town 882 120
Wexford Youths 550 150
Monaghan United 732 100
Longford Town 400 140
Mervue United 250 42
Salthill Devon 330 39

stann
27/10/2010, 3:45 PM
Am curious where did the 250 for Waterford v Athlone come from Stu? I know there was no mention of an official figure in the reports but that one is more than a wee bit low.
Anyway, I've just now got the clicker figure from the matchnight manager and it's 620.

WindmillWarrior
27/10/2010, 3:50 PM
Agree re the drogs games for us, unusual for us that a team from 20 miles away would get a lower crowd that the likes of Rovers and Bohs, always our top 2 crowds.

Wasn't the crowd for the 1st Duns v Drogs game last season your biggest of the season?? (or damn near it anyway). 2nd crowd last year was very big as well.
This season the crowds have been f*cked around big time, with the 1st Oriel game on a sunday, on telly and it was Mothers day! 2nd game in Oriel was midweek. Plus the fact our support has all but disappeared this season :-(
before last season it was a long time before we had a premier league derby, but in the interim there were FAI cup games, and these attracted huge crowds.
I think some older Dundalk fans do regard Rovers as more of a rivalry, but theres defo still an edge there, and the atmosphere at the derbies the last couple of years has been terrific.

Ciaran W
27/10/2010, 3:53 PM
Hmm. . Thats interesting. .I have more friends on facebook then half half of the first divisions teams average attendances, pretty pathetic to be honest Haha.

pineapple stu
27/10/2010, 3:55 PM
Am curious where did the 250 for Waterford v Athlone come from Stu?
Yeah, that's Wexford v Athlone... I've updated for the 620 figure now, thanks!

John83
27/10/2010, 4:59 PM
Hmm. . Thats interesting. .I have more friends on facebook then half half of the first divisions teams average attendances, pretty pathetic to be honest Haha.
Why don't you demand they give you €15 a fortnight to remain your friends, so?

GalwayRed
27/10/2010, 7:30 PM
We should surpass 1004 on Saturday anyway. Not been a great season for our attendences but this is our 4th year in the 1st so I'm not surprised. Those figures for Derry and Cork are impressive though.

The Lep
27/10/2010, 7:52 PM
Hmm. . Thats interesting. .I have more friends on facebook then half half of the first divisions teams average attendances, pretty pathetic to be honest Haha.

Yep, they are not your "Real" friends are they :)

Rasputin
28/10/2010, 9:14 AM
We should surpass 1004 on Saturday anyway. Not been a great season for our attendences but this is our 4th year in the 1st so I'm not surprised. Those figures for Derry and Cork are impressive though.
The longer you languish in that hell of a division the more it rots away at your support.

Sam_Heggy
28/10/2010, 9:30 PM
Hmm. . Thats interesting. .I have more friends on facebook then half half of the first divisions teams average attendances, pretty pathetic to be honest Haha.

Rovers didn't exactly fill Finn Park with their travelling support whilst in the 1st Division.
Short memories or maybe not around "way back then".

razor
29/10/2010, 11:55 AM
The longer you languish in that hell of a division the more it rots away at your support.And there was me thinking it was Tommy Dunne.