2010 attendances

[Candystripe]

Derry V Shelbourne 2,378


Derry V Mervue 1,622

[gufc2000]

Att. for Salthill and Mervue was 350 according to extratime

[MariborKev]

Dunno if this has been given but official one for DCFC v

Mervue: 1,622

Shelbourne: 2,378

[corkery]

345 at UCD-Fingal last night.

Thats awfull

[Athlone Town FC]

391 in Athlone Town Stadium for the Town vs Longford game.

After a beautiful day it started raining about 45 minutes before kick off and would have stopped anyone who was going to walk out to the game from attending

[Cuyahoga]

A drop of rain should'nt stop people from going to a game.Thats quite sad! Especially as this was a local derby!

[RoversHead]

391 in Athlone Town Stadium for the Town vs Longford game.

After a beautiful day it started raining about 45 minutes before kick off and would have stopped anyone who was going to walk out to the game from attendingJasus thats shocking stuff,let there be no more talk of that div not being a graveyard,

[pineapple stu]

Dunno if this has been given but official one for DCFC v

Mervue: 1,622

Shelbourne: 2,378
Just two posts above yours, Kev!


Att. for Salthill and Mervue was 350 according to extratime
Am I the only one who thinks that's rather unlikely?

Is there any sort of local rivalry between the two?

[Patrick Dunne]

250 maximum at the match. I counted 60 in the old stand, and estimated 150 in the new from standing outside it.

There would be a rivalry between people involved in the clubs, not a general public rivalry between the areas.

[pineapple stu]

There would be a rivalry between people involved in the clubs, not a general public rivalry between the areas.
So you'd basically have more of the clubs' other players than usual at the match?

[Terry]

So you'd basically have more of the clubs' other players than usual at the match?

More GUFC fans at the match than the other 2 clubs that were playing !

[Montenegrin]

I didnt know where else to ask:D.
Which Irish clubs are most popular?What is average attendance on LOI matches?Is your league fully professional?What are clubs budgets?Same questions about Welsh league too,if anybody knows.
Cheers!

[fionnsci]

League of Ireland statistics: http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/current/aveire.htm

Shamrock Rovers are the most popular team and the league is not fully professional but some teams are.

Welsh League: http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/current/avewal.htm

[pineapple stu]

Averages after round 9. Official figures in bold. Club averages in bold means more than half of their figures are official.

PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 2,217 (2009 - 2,366; 2008 - 1,993; 2007 - 1,924; 2006 - 1,463; 2005 - 1,976)
Bray - 900 (1,169; 1,106; 1,200; 1,027; 1,550)
Drogheda - 1,064 (1,106; 1,631; 1,919; 1,751; 1,682)
Dundalk - 2,530 (2,371; 1,459 FD; 1,406 FD; 1,078 FD; 474 FD)
Galway - 930 (1,076; 1,393; 2,199; 1,148 FD; 566 FD)
Pat's - 1,781 (1,631; 1,795; 1,910; 1,342; 1,599)
Rovers - 3,963 (3,611; 1,468; 1,715; 1,089 FD; 1,539)
Sligo - 2,219 (1,756; 1,960; 1,448; 1,806; 1,794 FD)
Sporting Fingal - 1,245 (635; 688)
UCD - 497 (272 FD; 546; 663; 546; 653; 306 FD)

FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 565 (462; 387; 670; 421; 316)
Cork - 2,664 (2,681 PD; 3,142 PD; 2,897 PD; 2,941 PD; 3,644 PD)
Derry - 2,233 (2,436 PD; 3,363 PD; 2,614 PD; 3,229 PD; 2,698 PD)
Harps - 781 (480; 1,607 PD; 1,164; 428; 1,347 PD; 1,106)
Limerick - 778 (429; 517; 670; 364; 669)
Longford - 325 (260; 406; 885 PD; 681 PD; 1,004 PD)
Mervue - 188 (166)
Monaghan - 213 (183; 177; 292; 204; 183)
Salthill Devon - 172 (N/A)
Shels - 819 (972; 986; 888; 1,690 PD; 1,949 PD)
Waterford - 859 (434; 670; 1,181 PD; 915 PD; 1,513 PD)
Wexford - 270 (494; 767; 810)

Premier Division average - 1,742 (2,010; 1,746; 1,687; 1,535; 1,759)
First Division average - 822 (417; 641; 722; 570; 520)

Overall average - 1,257 (1,175; 1,221; 1,235; 1,070; 1,195)


Attendances for last weekend (i.e. the figures I've gone with) -
Pats v Sligo - 1900
Rovers v Bray - 3317
Galway v Drogheda - 925
Dundalk v Bohs - 3000
UCD v Fingal - 345
Mervue v Salthill - 250
Athlone v Longford - 391
Waterford v Harps - 616
Limerick v Wexford - 352
Derry v Shels - 2378
Cork v Monaghan - 1912

[hoops1]

Shamrock Rovers are the most popular

What have you done with the real fionnsci?

[monkey9]

Official attendence at Terryland tonight in the Pat's match is 805. That figure doesn't include season ticket holders apparently so around a thousand there!

[dfclilywhite]

1716 official attendance at Dundalk v Bray

http://www.dundalkfc.com/news/100426_Bray.asp

[BillytheFin]

1564 at Fingal V Bohs

[pineapple stu]

315 at UCD v Drogheda.

We've had one Friday home game out of five this season, and our next home game is against Pat's on a Bank Holiday Monday. I'm sure there's a carp smiley for that...

[marinobohs]

QUOTE=BillytheFin;1351620]1564 at Fingal V Bohs[/QUOTE]

About 3,000 if you add in the gardai :rolleyes:

[Dodge]

315 at UCD v Drogheda.

We've had one Friday home game out of five this season, and our next home game is against Pat's on a Bank Holiday Monday. I'm sure there's a carp smiley for that...
Last couple of years with opats saw the 2nd half of our season destroyed by weird days/times for kick offs. The rake of midweek games can't help clubs either

Shame that Monday game doesn't have an afternoon kick off

[marinobohs]

Last couple of years with opats saw the 2nd half of our season destroyed by weird days/times for kick offs. The rake of midweek games can't help clubs either

Shame that Monday game doesn't have an afternoon kick off

Personally think the LOI would be better cancelling the mid season break (Yes, I know all the arguments) than have the number of midweek matches we currently have. Difficult enough to get people out to a game on a Friday/weekend but even worse for a Monday game :rolleyes:

[Dodge]

The break is there for one reason only. Part time players wanting a summer holiday.

(And yeah, I think its a terrible thing)

[marinobohs]

The break is there for one reason only. Part time players wanting a summer holiday.

(And yeah, I think its a terrible thing)

yeah, I know the reason but if we are stuck with it then perhaps we should look at extending the season ? Just think that midweek/early week games are making a bad job (attracting crowds) worse :rolleyes:

[Dodge]

Just wait until you're playing in europe

The current situation is a joke. Absolutely no thought gopes into the fixtures

[marinobohs]

Just wait until you're playing in europe

The current situation is a joke. Absolutely no thought gopes into the fixtures

I remember last year and the EA Sports cup/Derry fiasco happened when we were playing in europe - fortunately only in Wales but three away games in a week (Thanks to FAI muppetry). God help any Irish team that makes it to the group stage because the FAI wont help them.

[Mr A]

yeah, I know the reason but if we are stuck with it then perhaps we should look at extending the season ? Just think that midweek/early week games are making a bad job (attracting crowds) worse :rolleyes:

Then the majority of clubs end up paying players for the extra time. Even the full time clubs would suffer as contracts often run out at the end of the season and may not be renewed until closer to the following season.

[Buller]

Rovers-Sligo match was 3175 according to RTE.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/0426/rovers_sligo.html

[poster]

Buller, is there any pics of the 'original' stand last night? We were down the end of that stand so couldn't see how many Shams fans were there? Only looked about 1,100 in the 'new' stand?

Also, do those stands have names yet?

[pineapple stu]

Averages after round 10. Official figures in bold. Club averages in bold means more than half of their figures are official.

PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 2,217 (2009 - 2,366; 2008 - 1,993; 2007 - 1,924; 2006 - 1,463; 2005 - 1,976)
Bray - 900 (1,169; 1,106; 1,200; 1,027; 1,550)
Drogheda - 1,064 (1,106; 1,631; 1,919; 1,751; 1,682)
Dundalk - 2,367 (2,371; 1,459 FD; 1,406 FD; 1,078 FD; 474 FD)
Galway - 909 (1,076; 1,393; 2,199; 1,148 FD; 566 FD)
Pat's - 1,781 (1,631; 1,795; 1,910; 1,342; 1,599)
Rovers - 3,832 (3,611; 1,468; 1,715; 1,089 FD; 1,539)
Sligo - 2,219 (1,756; 1,960; 1,448; 1,806; 1,794 FD)
Sporting Fingal - 1,308 (635; 688)
UCD - 461 (272 FD; 546; 663; 546; 653; 306 FD)

FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 565 (462; 387; 670; 421; 316)
Cork - 2,664 (2,681 PD; 3,142 PD; 2,897 PD; 2,941 PD; 3,644 PD)
Derry - 2,233 (2,436 PD; 3,363 PD; 2,614 PD; 3,229 PD; 2,698 PD)
Harps - 781 (480; 1,607 PD; 1,164; 428; 1,347 PD; 1,106)
Limerick - 778 (429; 517; 670; 364; 669)
Longford - 325 (260; 406; 885 PD; 681 PD; 1,004 PD)
Mervue - 188 (166)
Monaghan - 213 (183; 177; 292; 204; 183)
Salthill Devon - 172 (N/A)
Shels - 819 (972; 986; 888; 1,690 PD; 1,949 PD)
Waterford - 859 (434; 670; 1,181 PD; 915 PD; 1,513 PD)
Wexford - 270 (494; 767; 810)

Premier Division average - 1,718 (2,010; 1,746; 1,687; 1,535; 1,759)
First Division average - 822 (417; 641; 722; 570; 520)

Overall average - 1,270 (1,175; 1,221; 1,235; 1,070; 1,195)


Attendances for last weekend (i.e. the figures I've gone with) -
Dundalk v Bray 1716
Galway v Pat's 806
Rovers v Sligo 3175
Fingal v Bohs 1564
UCD v Drogheda 315

[Buller]

Buller, is there any pics of the 'original' stand last night? We were down the end of that stand so couldn't see how many Shams fans were there? Only looked about 1,100 in the 'new' stand?

Also, do those stands have names yet?

I missed my first match last night. Most people just call it the East/Ultras stand and the Main stand.
Did it really look only around a third full?! You'll see the main stand on MNS or video's I'm sure.
If there are any pictures I'll send you them.

[passinginterest]

I missed my first match last night. Most people just call it the East/Ultras stand and the Main stand.
Did it really look only around a third full?! You'll see the main stand on MNS or video's I'm sure.
If there are any pictures I'll send you them.

There was less in the main stand than the new stand, at kick off I though the crowd was just over 2,000 but a lot seemed to come in late and that 3,000 odd looks official and it did seem very similar to recent games that were just over 3,000.

[oriel]

Quite an alarming slide in crowds for Wexford - off topic the excellent 'When Saturday Comes' (uk mag) has a full pager on them this month. Good article too.

Agree 100% re mid week games, waste of time in this league, esp if you have 2 home games in a row, it really is hard enough getting fans to pay in once every 2 weeks, never mind twice over 3 days.

Why not extend the season by 2 weeks and just keep these games down to 2 holiday weekend fixtures ?

We got 3,000 last friday and 1,300 less 3 days later, granted the Bray support v Bohs is not a good comparison, but the point still remains. People just dont have the money/interest for mid week/twice a week games.

[Dillonman]

Alot of people cant make midweek games beacue of work/college commitments or even travel arrangements, Monday night games are a bad idea and this year sees a few more than last doesn't it. But to even throw up agmes v teams across the country doesnt help. We had to play Galway away and Sligo away Easter weekend where as every other team had one away, one home. Why cant they keep loacal teams v local teams in these midweek games if they are a must. ie perhaps Galway v Sligo on Mondays, Dundalk v Drawda on Mondays, and the Dublin lot v the Dublin lot

[dong]

Have to add my agreement to everything Marinobohs, Dodge, oriel,etc have said regarding Monday and Tuesday night games.
I'm no master of economics but if the season was extended, with all or most of the games played at weekends, surely the resulting bigger crowds would cover the wages?
It takes away from atmosphere at games also.

[John83]

Have to add my agreement to everything Marinobohs, Dodge, oriel,etc have said regarding Monday and Tuesday night games.
I'm no master of economics but if the season was extended, with all or most of the games played at weekends, surely the resulting bigger crowds would cover the wages?
It takes away from atmosphere at games also.
Say the average club has 4 Monday games a season (It doesn't matter - the numbers scale). Extending the season by four weeks would cost something of the order of €20,000 in wages (assuming €5k/week wage budgets - throw in other costs and I'd be surprised if that figure wasn't very conservative figure for the Premier) and you need to get an average of nearly 800 extra punters to two games (you're away on half of those 4 extra weekends) to break even. I really don't think it works out.

The clubs in this league don't pay their wages with gate receipts. There just aren't the crowds for it.

[Dodge]

It just needs better planning. Setanta and european games are never ever taking into account when they draw up fixtures. Since the first week of the season Pats have played twice a week every week 9bar 2 postponements). There'll be times in September when we'll go a week without a game. Why the need to get postponed/re-scheduled games played so soon?

[Schumi]

Playing Setanta Cup games on weekends was a terrible idea. They still get **** crowds and league games (affecting twice as many clubs) get shifted to midweek instead with crowds down overall.

[Spudulika]

Is anyone surprised about the fixture congestion, a week before kick off nobdy knew for sure who was in what division! Monday nights are always going to be difficult, unless they're a regular date for a club. The weekend excess takes the guts of you wage so the last thing you want to end up doing is taking in your second game in 3-4 days when you've got to work the next morning. However I can't see the solution to it - especially as extending the season makes no real financial sense.

[Dodge]

Well if its planned properly it isn't extending the seaosn. its just a longer season (can start earlier if they wish...)

As they showed by switchng Cork and bray, they don't need to know all the teams involved. just those involved in europe and setanta

[Cold Night]

Playing Setanta Cup games on weekends was a terrible idea. They still get **** crowds and league games (affecting twice as many clubs) get shifted to midweek instead with crowds down overall.

Agreed, The FAI need a kick up the arse for messing around with the league fixtures this year ie monday night games/ sunday afternoon games.

The best time for League of Ireland games are 1-Saturday nights, 2 - Friday nights, in that order.

we've enough trouble getting people to the games without shooting ourselves in the foot by playing games at times that discourage people from going !!!!!!!

[fionnsci]

I'd guess 3,700 for the game tonight with about 1,200 from Rovers. Great crowd on both sides.

[Captain2007]

Carlisle Grounds tonight worse crowd I have ever seen, counted approx. 15 Galway fans and no more than 200 Bray fans, how could you survive with gates this size,really need to reduce ticket prices and try and attract punters......

[Ezeikial]

Carlisle Grounds tonight worse crowd I have ever seen, counted approx. 15 Galway fans and no more than 200 Bray fans, how could you survive with gates this size,really need to reduce ticket prices and try and attract punters......

I suspect that price is not the primary issue. As I recall extratime report on season tickets declared Bray the lowest cost in the premier division. Presume match day tickets are not above €15? Would lowering this to price to €10 increase attendances by 33%?

Promotion and marketing is where the sustainable returns are. Price may play a part, but is rarely the exclusive answer.

[Jicked]

Could there be a situation where Shamrock Rovers are the attraction in every single team's biggest gate of the season in the Premier Division this year?

Obviously it'll depend on what's to play for in the final round of games, but thanks to the huge Rovers travelling contingent, the Leinster based nature of the league and things like the poor Dundalk v. Drogheda crowd earlier in the season, right now I'd guess that Sligo, Pats, Galway and Fingal all had their biggest gates against Rovers? Obviously that's just going off the top of my head from what I can remember (I wasn't at the Drogs game) but it couldn't have been far off.

[Bray-Z]

I suspect that price is not the primary issue. As I recall extratime report on season tickets declared Bray the lowest cost in the premier division. Presume match day tickets are not above €15? Would lowering this to price to €10 increase attendances by 33%?

Promotion and marketing is where the sustainable returns are. Price may play a part, but is rarely the exclusive answer.

Agree with that. I hate to say it but even if it was free entry I still think we'd only get 500 home fans maximum.

[Louth4sam]

Could there be a situation where Shamrock Rovers are the attraction in every single team's biggest gate of the season in the Premier Division this year?

Obviously it'll depend on what's to play for in the final round of games, but right now I'd guess that Sligo, Pats, Galway and Fingal all had their biggest gates against Rovers? Obviously that's just going off the top of my head from what I can remember (I wasn't at the Drogs game) but it couldn't have been far off.

Surprisingly, Pats brought the largest crowd to Oriel. Can't see Rovers beating it on Monday with the game on telly and game on a Monday night.

[oriel]

Could there be a situation where Shamrock Rovers are the attraction in every single team's biggest gate of the season in the Premier Division this year?

Obviously it'll depend on what's to play for in the final round of games, but thanks to the huge Rovers travelling contingent, the Leinster based nature of the league and things like the poor Dundalk v. Drogheda crowd earlier in the season, right now I'd guess that Sligo, Pats, Galway and Fingal all had their biggest gates against Rovers? Obviously that's just going off the top of my head from what I can remember (I wasn't at the Drogs game) but it couldn't have been far off.


Last year our biggest crowds were 1/Bohs (3,800) and 2/ Drogs (3,600), think Rovers came in at 3,000 but can see that game being our biggest for Monday night. The TV and sunday match ruined any hope of a large crowd for the first home game v Drogs this year.

[oriel]

Could there be a situation where Shamrock Rovers are the attraction in every single team's biggest gate of the season in the Premier Division this year?

Obviously it'll depend on what's to play for in the final round of games, but thanks to the huge Rovers travelling contingent, the Leinster based nature of the league and things like the poor Dundalk v. Drogheda crowd earlier in the season, right now I'd guess that Sligo, Pats, Galway and Fingal all had their biggest gates against Rovers? Obviously that's just going off the top of my head from what I can remember (I wasn't at the Drogs game) but it couldn't have been far off.


Last year our biggest crowds were 1/Bohs (3,800) and 2/ Drogs (3,600), think Rovers came in at 3,000 but can see that game being our biggest for Monday night. The TV and sunday match ruined any hope of a large crowd for the first home game v Drogs this year. Pats def biggest away support so far and biggest crowd for us.

[bennocelt]

Carlisle Grounds tonight worse crowd I have ever seen, counted approx. 15 Galway fans and no more than 200 Bray fans, how could you survive with gates this size,really need to reduce ticket prices and try and attract punters......


Yeah was thinking that myself, I think 15 quid is a bit steep these days - I went to this game, got the dart there, had a few beers (3) and went to match - had a hot dog and had only about 3 euros left after all that!!!!!!(Im a bit skint at the moment!) I don't mind as I like watching football but would someone else be persuaded to come back after all that?
Considering I want to go to 2 games next week as well - so that's 30 quid straight off the bat for tickets.
Wasnt it Exeter in England that had their biggest crowd in years when they had a pay what you want policy at the stiles

Anyway despite the poor crowd, was encouraging to hear the Bray fans singing in the second half, showed some real support - exactly what the LOI is all about