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Da Real Rover
25/03/2007, 3:51 PM
correct, official attendance was 2045. I would have guessed maybe 40-50 drogs fans.

And what was your blues brothers contigent on friday night like??

Terry
25/03/2007, 5:38 PM
And what was your blues brothers contigent on friday night like??

what?:confused:

Comic Book Guy
25/03/2007, 6:06 PM
252 at Turner's X for cobh /Harps:o :o v.diappointing, the sooner we're back in Cobh the better.

BohsFans
25/03/2007, 6:16 PM
252 at Turner's X for cobh /Harps:o :o v.diappointing, the sooner we're back in Cobh the better.

when is that?

stann
25/03/2007, 7:30 PM
i reckon 1400 plus at the RSC friday night.
...
about 50 Bray supporters in the away section


a conservative 1400 imo

not a bad crowd for us:)

I was a bit disappointed in the turn-out to be honest, would have thought there might have been a few hundred more, it wasn't a bad night or anything.
Spot on in your estimate though, 1400-1450 I put it.

pineapple stu
25/03/2007, 7:34 PM
117 at Cobh v Harps today.


252 at Turner's X for cobh /Harps:o :o v.diappointing, the sooner we're back in Cobh the better.
Two very exact figures there? :confused:

Assume it's playing in Cork that's the cause for the low attendance?

Da Real Rover
25/03/2007, 8:01 PM
what?:confused:

Your mates from windsor.

Partizan
25/03/2007, 8:10 PM
text from the brother said that thee was approx 1500 at the RSC for the Bray game

Terry
25/03/2007, 8:23 PM
Your mates from windsor.

I dont have any mates from windsor ???

Battery Rover
25/03/2007, 10:27 PM
Was told around 1100 paying customers at Athlone vs Wexford Youths today so with season ticket holders and under 12 who are free when accompanied I would estimate the crowd to be around 1500.
Expected travelling contingent of Wexford fans didn't happen.

Not bad for a Sunday afternoon considering we were competing with two other attractions namely Westmeath vs Galway and Roscommon vs Longford

higgins
26/03/2007, 12:34 AM
Will give it a try, although it'd vary even in the same club (sometimes we'd get an official figure and sometimes an unofficial figure).

Galway, Limerick, Shels, Pat's, Monaghan, Wexford, UCD and Bohs above are all official.

Where did you get the official Shels crowd ?
The figure for the Kildare game is those who paid in, NOT the total and likewise you'll probably find the 1894 for the Dundalk is paying fans.

Where are you getting official figures ?

gufct
26/03/2007, 8:53 AM
The official figures must include everyone at the game otherwise they are worthless.

gufct
26/03/2007, 9:03 AM
Your mates from windsor.

I think youll find True Blue is a wum from sligo who is barred of the gufc forum .Now go back and play with your rattle.

DmanDmythDledge
26/03/2007, 11:42 AM
UCD-Cork 744 official.

pineapple stu
26/03/2007, 12:43 PM
Where did you get the official Shels crowd ?
The figure for the Kildare game is those who paid in, NOT the total and likewise you'll probably find the 1894 for the Dundalk is paying fans.

Where are you getting official figures ?
As posted by ShelsW, club official, on your forum - "1,896 in total". Don't see how that can't be considered unofficial. The thread on the Shels forum (http://forum.shelbournefc.ie/chat/viewtopic.php?t=8261) indicates that any freebies would have been largely immaterial.

Mr A
26/03/2007, 12:58 PM
This post (http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=652127&postcount=10) on Cobh forum would indicate that the figure I was given wasn't too far off the mark. I get the impression my contact counted them individually!

Comic Book Guy
26/03/2007, 6:46 PM
when is that?

Our first game back is supposed to be the League Cup game with Limerick 37.

higgins
26/03/2007, 6:56 PM
As posted by ShelsW, club official, on your forum - "1,896 in total". Don't see how that can't be considered unofficial. The thread on the Shels forum (http://forum.shelbournefc.ie/chat/viewtopic.php?t=8261) indicates that any freebies would have been largely immaterial.

ShelsW told you the first week the 1572 from Kildare didn't include the free people and you took it as 1572. ShelsW tells you the next week it's 1,896 IN TOTAL and you take that as official. One or the other???? Either you take the total figure or you don't.

I trust ShelsW and his figures. It's the same figure I heard from directors after the game but why do you pay no attention to the first weeks figure when ShelsW said the 1,572 didn't count the free people.

And you can be certain that the number of people getting in for free is NOT immaterial. My own guess whould be that you're adding on at least another three figures.

If you want to use ShelsW because you think I'm lying for some reason!! then look in the thread were you pulled out the 1,572, he also says when asked the question, Does that include season tickets holders?

"Yes - but not the centre door - which took in about another 125."

You need to clarify with ShelsW what he's putting on the board as the first week seems to be paid in people and the second week seems to be the total.

fitzknows
26/03/2007, 7:58 PM
ShelsW told you the first week the 1572 from Kildare didn't include the free people and you took it as 1572. ShelsW tells you the next week it's 1,896 IN TOTAL and you take that as official. One or the other???? Either you take the total figure or you don't.

I trust ShelsW and his figures. It's the same figure I heard from directors after the game but why do you pay no attention to the first weeks figure when ShelsW said the 1,572 didn't count the free people.

And you can be certain that the number of people getting in for free is NOT immaterial. My own guess whould be that you're adding on at least another three figures.

If you want to use ShelsW because you think I'm lying for some reason!! then look in the thread were you pulled out the 1,572, he also says when asked the question, Does that include season tickets holders?

"Yes - but not the centre door - which took in about another 125."

You need to clarify with ShelsW what he's putting on the board as the first week seems to be paid in people and the second week seems to be the total.



FFS Pineapple Stu concentrate on what you are doing. You're not getting paid to try and figure out the league attendences for nothing you know. Please don't let the standards slip again!

Jerry The Saint
26/03/2007, 9:41 PM
FFS Pineapple Stu concentrate on what you are doing. You're not getting paid to try and figure out the league attendences for nothing you know. Please don't let the standards slip again!

I'm just glad to see that Shels fans are FINALLY taking a stand on the really important issues!

pineapple stu
26/03/2007, 9:45 PM
FFS Pineapple Stu concentrate on what you are doing. You're not getting paid to try and figure out the league attendences for nothing you know. Please don't let the standards slip again!
You feck off to the contunity attendances thread you. :)

Higgins, if you want to make your point without going off on some whiney rant, please feel free to do so. Leixlip Red posted the attendace for Kildare as being just over 1500, and quoted Fintan Cassidy as his source. I'm not going to argue against official club figures in the absence of anything else other than ranty speculation.

pineapple stu
26/03/2007, 10:23 PM
Update after week 3.

I've put in 117 for Cobh v Harps for now, being the lower figure I was given. I know that CBG certainly has access to official figures in the past, so if we can confirm that the 252 is official, I'll replace it.

I've revised Bray v Bohs from week 2 to 1800 in line with the continuity attendances thread. The 2500 which we had was from the papers, which I'm quite happy to ignore.

PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 3,078 (2006 - 1,463; 2005 - 1,976; 2004 - 2,340)
Bray - 1,800 (1,027; 1,550; 818 FD)
Cork - 3,000 (2,941; 3,644; 4,033)
Derry - 4,000 (3,229; 2,698; 1,672)
Drogheda - 1,700 (1,751; 1,682; 1,554)
Galway - 2,580 (1,148 FD; 566 FD; 571 FD)
Longford - 900 (681; 1,004; 1,131)
Pat's - 1,855 (1,342; 1,599; 1,882)
Rovers - 2,000 (1,089 FD; 1,539; 1,349)
Sligo - 1,500 (1,806; 1,794 FD; 781 FD)
UCD - 1,195 (546; 653; 306 FD)
Waterford - 2,050 (915; 1,513; 1,753)

FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 1,750 (421; 316; 291)
Cobh - 246 (368; 403; 240)
Dundalk - 2,500 (1,078; 474; 591)
Harps - 1,100 (428; 1,347 PD; 1,106)
Kildare - 250 (265; 186; 298)
Kilkenny - 150 (122; 185; 110)
Limerick - 934 (364; 669; 188)
Monaghan - 309 (204; 183; 182) (missing Kilkenny)
Shels - 1,734 (1,690 PD; 1,949 PD; 2,158 PD)
Wexford - 2,130 (n/a)

Premeir Division average - 2,030 (1,535; 1,759; 1,853)
First Division average - 1,126 (570; 520; 512)

Overall average - 1,622 (1,070; 1,195; 1,218)

FD is an average crowd in the First Division; PD is an average crowd in the Premier Division. I've only put that in where the attendances was when the club was in a different one to their current division.

Missing games -
Monaghan v Kilkenny

LeixlipRed
27/03/2007, 12:46 AM
I'm just glad to see that Shels fans are FINALLY taking a stand on the really important issues!

The FAI told us they'd give us 4 quatros for every person we can get in the gate. These are the important issues. So my guess at the attendance would be c. 10,000. You could barely get your pint glass throwing arm from out beside your leg it was that packed. Though other estimates had under 2000 and Dave Crawley's massive cranium filling up the rest of the space

higgins
27/03/2007, 1:55 AM
You feck off to the contunity attendances thread you. :)

Higgins, if you want to make your point without going off on some whiney rant, please feel free to do so. Leixlip Red posted the attendace for Kildare as being just over 1500, and quoted Fintan Cassidy as his source. I'm not going to argue against official club figures in the absence of anything else other than ranty speculation.

What are you talking about now?
Go to post #174, I told you how many were at the game and it was ignored. I made a further post on the subject and then clarified what I was talking about in a 3rd post.

there was no official figure given. ShelsW posted 1572 as paid in and 125 as freebies in the same thread. LeixlipRed went ahead and posted 1500 and now suddenly the 125 free are ignored. Is there anything you won't to to have a go at Shels :) remarkable stuff...

all I was attempting to do was clear it up
whiney rant or not, I'll leave you to it as I see you've ignored that facts again with your latest posting.

pineapple stu
27/03/2007, 12:44 PM
You just posted a figure; you gave no back up or anything. I'm always going to take a figure from a club official over random guesstimates (or at least, what appear to be guesstimates) posted like that.

Raheny Red
27/03/2007, 1:13 PM
You just posted a figure; you gave no back up or anything. I'm always going to take a figure from a club official over random guesstimates (or at least, what appear to be guesstimates) posted like that.


From THIS (http://forum.shelbournefc.ie/chat/viewtopic.php?t=8146&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)
thread:


ShelsW wrote:

Crowd tonite - 1572


And in response to Does that include season tickets holders?


ShelsW wrote:

Yes - but not the centre door - which took in about another 125.

Jerry The Saint
27/03/2007, 2:24 PM
there was no official figure given. ShelsW posted 1572 as paid in and 125 as freebies in the same thread. LeixlipRed went ahead and posted 1500 and now suddenly the 125 free are ignored. Is there anything you won't to to have a go at Shels :) remarkable stuff...




From THIS (http://forum.shelbournefc.ie/chat/viewtopic.php?t=8146&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)
thread:



And in response to Does that include season tickets holders?

Shels were never so fussy about accurate figures in the past. :rolleyes: Is the club issuing tickets yet or still letting the turnstile clickers work their magic?

pineapple stu
27/03/2007, 6:12 PM
From THIS (http://forum.shelbournefc.ie/chat/viewtopic.php?t=8146&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)
thread:



And in response to Does that include season tickets holders?
Thank you for a non-ranty, backed-up post, Raheny. I'll have a look see what I did with this last year; basically want to make it consistent with the treatment for Galway last year. Although I think that was a case of someone posting the official attendance and other people saying there were way more than that, whereas here it's the person who posted the attendance amending his own figure, in which case I'll change it.

Da Real Rover
27/03/2007, 7:17 PM
I think youll find True Blue is a wum from sligo who is barred of the gufc forum .Now go back and play with your rattle.

But i think someone just threw it out.

Was just asking a question, no need to get your knickers in a twist.

higgins
27/03/2007, 10:19 PM
You just posted a figure; you gave no back up or anything. I'm always going to take a figure from a club official over random guesstimates (or at least, what appear to be guesstimates) posted like that.

I backed it up..
I knew the crowd was 1700 and I said it. I'm sorry for not making a reference. I posted in total three times and the last one pointed out ShelsW ammended his own figure but you of course ignored it just because it came from 'higgins'.

Anyway how do you get to be a club official like ShelsW ?
He'll love that.... :D

Student Mullet
27/03/2007, 10:24 PM
I've missed these rows between Pineapple and Higgins.

Perhaps one of yee should open a thread about how the other's club doesn't deserve a place in the league?

higgins
29/03/2007, 2:47 AM
I've missed these rows between Pineapple and Higgins.

I didn't.. :p

I was enjoying my time away!
I thought when I first posted back here, there was little chance of starting anything, guess I was wrong.. :D

The Good Son
29/03/2007, 3:09 PM
I've put in 117 for Cobh v Harps for now, being the lower figure I was given. I know that CBG certainly has access to official figures in the past, so if we can confirm that the 252 is official, I'll replace it.

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I wandered into the new stand (a lot less security than City matches), where I could see all three occupied sides of the ground and counted 230ish. So I'd imagine that CBG wouldn't be far off the official figure.

Stato
31/03/2007, 8:36 AM
1608 at Pats v Bray. About double the amount that came to the same fixture last season when it had to be moved to the Wednesday after Easter to accommodate a Ladies International match at Richmond Park :rolleyes:

oriel
31/03/2007, 10:49 AM
Reading 4 or 5 posts on the dundalk forum, 2,200 for the athlone game seems to be a figure most are happy with.

kdjaC
31/03/2007, 11:01 AM
1608 at Pats v Bray. About double the amount that came to the same fixture last season when it had to be moved to the Wednesday after Easter to accommodate a Ladies International match at Richmond Park :rolleyes:

Where do you think the balls teams warming up with came from :D

2200 at the pats match imo
stand had about 400 empty seats so 1600 in there
Camac was near full about 500 there
Shed had 100 which swelled in 2nd half when Afri-Core band went in there
About 100 bray fans in stand and few more on camac side

So all in 2200


kdjac

trevy
31/03/2007, 2:01 PM
I'd say about 1300 at the RSC last night for Waterford United v Bohs.

higgins
31/03/2007, 3:18 PM
About 200 in Kilkenny, if even!

awful crowd

Risteard
31/03/2007, 4:43 PM
About 3,000 at the Cross I'd say.

Buller
31/03/2007, 6:40 PM
1,400 guestimate at rovers v galway...

Mr A
31/03/2007, 7:03 PM
About 650 at Harps-Monaghan, that's pretty much official.

Raheny Red
01/04/2007, 11:09 AM
About 200 in Kilkenny, if even!

awful crowd

Anyone know how many seats are in the home stand?- that was full! And there has been varying numbers on our crowd from 120 to 200!

Philly
01/04/2007, 12:14 PM
Only about 210 at KCFC - Cobh. Poor.

pineapple stu
01/04/2007, 10:33 PM
My - completely uneducated - guess for Sligo-UCD was about 1200. Not a great crowd, although it did fill up from about 500 shortly before kick off. Main stand was maybe half full in total, a handful of people standing behind either goal and the blue stand was fuller than the last time I was down.

higgins
02/04/2007, 1:49 AM
The Home stand wasn't full for the Shels game.. About 100 there and about 100 in the other stand.

gufct
02/04/2007, 8:35 AM
very dissapointing crowd for Rovers -v- Galway smaller than both last years fixtures in the 1st division 1,000 max with 100/150 from united.I was shocked how small the crowd was.

dcfcsteve
02/04/2007, 9:59 AM
No punts on crowd at Drogs v City yet ?

Thunder-WYFC
02/04/2007, 10:00 AM
RTE say 1500 at Wexford yesterday but I'm certain it was closer to 2000

dcfcsteve
02/04/2007, 10:03 AM
RTE say 1500 at Wexford yesterday but I'm certain it was closer to 2000

Decent crowds for a new team either way.

Do you think you can hold onto them ? Are these 'football people' in the main, or just curious locals with a new play-thing ?

OneRedArmy
02/04/2007, 10:05 AM
No punts on crowd at Drogs v City yet ?200 Derry fans and presumably 1,300 Drogs fans given the crowd was capped at 1,500?