eircom League 2007 Attendances

[Midgit]

Defo not that there I was bored in the first half and counted 100 max in the main stand including press and approx 100 scattered around the fence which would give 200 if you also counted the players 22 , subs 8 , managers/assistants/trainers./physios 8 , the little nippers that played at half time 20 , the people in the tv gantry 3 , stewards 10 and the guy making the tea still would only give a max of 275.[/QUOTE]

Love it.:D:D:D

[Schumi]

It's not a question that he can't count. He didn't count, if he had he wouldn't say '100 max' or 'about 100' he'd have a more precise figure.Maybe he just has a bad memory.

[sligoman]

No point arguing in this thread as Stu is a UCD fan so he's going to put down whatever makey up figure he wants. This thread has no real relevance anyway until all clubs release official attendances.

[Bald Student]

Defo not that there I was bored in the first half and counted 100 max in the main stand including press and approx 100 scattered around the fence which would give 200 if you also counted the players 22 , subs 8 , managers/assistants/trainers./physios 8 , the little nippers that played at half time 20 , the people in the tv gantry 3 , stewards 10 and the guy making the tea still would only give a max of 275.
The nippers sat in the stand during the game so be careful not to count them twice, they may be included in your '100 max' figure, depending on how you do your counting.

[Schumi]

No point arguing in this thread as Stu is a UCD fan so he's going to put down whatever makey up figure he wants.Come on, if a Sligo official figure was ignored for a lower figure you'd be moaning about UCD bias against Sligo.

[Bald Student]

Come on, if a Sligo official figure was ignored for a lower figure you'd be moaning about UCD bias against Sligo.There's no need for the conditional tense. From a week or two ago:


Just read this again no there was not i said i got mine from vice chairman but you ignored it Stu. I mean i have PM'd you twice with the information again i went to the trouble of getting information that i thought you would appriciate and help keep the stats as close to correct as possible. Stu is a case that you want to keep other teams figures closer to the kind of crowds UCD get ?

[Bald Student]

No point one rule for one and the UCD can make their own up.Agreed, in both cases pineapple should (and did) use the official figure from the club, same rule for both.

[pineapple stu]

Oh for Christ's sake, are youz lot still moaning?!

Your arguments completely ignore the fact that I've said that the offficial attendances this year have been vindicated by observation and counts, therefore I'm happy with them. I've given a reason why I disregarded official figures last year, a reason which doesn't apply this year. The Sligo count is just nonsense, which is why I'm ignoring it, same as I'd ignore anyone who sai tehre was 1000 there.

In the Sligo case, I "ignored" the official figure because I'd been given a lower figure, also quoting a club official.

Rocketfingers, your rantings are an embarrassment to yourself at this stage. We have an official figure, official figures this year have been vindicated, your counts have been nonsense, 443 is the figure. End of story.

Jesus Christ...:rolleyes:

[pineapple stu]

The only thing that we are all in agreement that is nonsense is UCD's official figure last year, which were made up.
This is this year, in case it hasn't reached Sligo yet.

[Mr A]

Sligwegian fans getting in a strop over the possibility that someone's attendances are overstated?... the irony, oh for the love of all things shiny, the irony!

[pineapple stu]

If a club is found guilty of or admits to altering their attendances then i don't see for one how their figures can be taken at face value anymore ?
And what do you think I might possibly mean by this line?


I've said that the offficial attendances this year have been vindicated by observation and counts
Would you like me to spell it out for you?

I was cynical about our official attendances at the start of the season, but they've been right so far. I don't see any reason to doubt that view now just because you can't count.

[Pablo]

I heard 200 mentioned but from pictures looked like less than 100.


171 officially in away section including 31 from a group from Kerry who were at the local Kids olympic games representing Ireland.


Decent enough for the ITC in Iceland!

[dublinred]

It's not a question that he can't count. He didn't count, if he had he wouldn't say '100 max' or 'about 100' he'd have a more precise figure.

To be precise I had 89 and 88 I rounded up to give benefit of doubt , its not very hard to count up to 200 people maybe I shouldn't be a chartered accountant if I can't count , again as i stated before I can't see invisible or dead people hence there may be a slight variance.

[NY Hoop]

History repeating itself with sligo fans again. Wonder where the missing 150 fans were that were at our game the other week? Probably counting backwards.

In fairness 2 class goals though.

KOH

[pineapple stu]

I shouldn't be a chartered accountant if I can't count
You probably didn't have a calculator with you.

However, I'm a chartered accountant too (assuming you are one), so your point is, as with most of the rest of your posts, invalid.

[pineapple stu]

The attendances thread here forms the basis for the current Aertel league article, incidentally. Apparently Bohs are showing a significant drop in support in the past couple of years, down from 2340 to 2290. Other than that though, it's a standard enough article.

[Carlin]

What was the official figure in Dalymount last night looked pretty poor ?

1230.

[holidaysong]

1100 - 1200 would be my estimate for the Dundalk game tonight.

[Mr A]

620 at Harps game.

[Raheny Red]

648 Shels V Cobh official attendance posted by shelsw

[atfconline]

AERTEL's eL Focus is on League attendences this week, with this thread getting a mention in absence of official figures.

[BohsFans]

Apparently Bohs are showing a significant drop in support in the past couple of years, down from 2340 to 2290. Other than that though, it's a standard enough article.

Why did you pick us out? Of the 4 teams he gave figures for, we are down by the least amount!

[Schumi]

Why did you pick us out? Of the 4 teams he gave figures for, we are down by the least amount!The foolishness of a drop of 50 people being called a large drop I'd assume.

[NY Hoop]

AERTEL's eL Focus is on League attendences this week, with this thread getting a mention in absence of official figures.

Article is spot on about the ridiculous midweek first division fixtures. Last year we were in Kilkenny twice midweek. What could have been a good crowd on a saturday night turned out to be an embarrassment. One of these games was played same night as France v Spain:eek:

However there are also premier fixtures scheduled for midweek just not so many. There is no point in taking a summer break in any form if the result is more midweek games.

I've said it before to the guy who does the fixtures that the bank holidays should be used for a full round of fixtures e.g. a full round of games on the friday preceding the holiday and then another round on the bank holiday monday itself. This would cut out the dreaded midweek fixtures. You can all guess to the response to this common sense suggestion:rolleyes:

It appears that Noel Mooney's trojan work is being undermined by the insistence to still play games midweek. Shame.


KOH

[Battery Rover]

Athlone vs Monaghan


Treasurer didnt have the exact figure when I spoke to him but gave me the following rough break down

200 season tickets
80 Pepsi Summer Camp passes
320 paying customers

So 600 is the estimate

[pineapple stu]

The foolishness of a drop of 50 people being called a large drop I'd assume.
Exactly.

[oriel]

1100 - 1200 would be my estimate for the Dundalk game tonight.


Spot on, def 1,200 would be max, our worst crowd of the season. Stupid idea having matches on a tues night, esp for first div sides. tues/wed will only work for a cup replay, crowd wise, never for lge games.

[Marco]

We had the biggest crowd of the season against Dundalk(sound fans also) and I got a figure of 463! We had well over a 1,000 there. Attendance given was 763 :mad: So this is what ur up against

[monutdfc]

Athlone vs Monaghan


Treasurer didnt have the exact figure when I spoke to him but gave me the following rough break down

200 season tickets
80 Pepsi Summer Camp passes
320 paying customers

So 600 is the estimate
I was talking to a guy who did a rough count (the game was that boring) and he reckoned something around 450

[Battery Rover]

I was talking to a guy who did a rough count (the game was that boring) and he reckoned something around 450

I only pass on the figure I receive from the club.

Boring is probably too good a word for it and if things dont improve soon all that will be going are the 200 or so die hards

[Dodge]

We had the biggest crowd of the season against Dundalk(sound fans also) and I got a figure of 463! We had well over a 1,000 there. Attendance given was 763 :mad: So this is what ur up against

I love the idea that you thing your guess of "well over 1,000" is right, and the official figure of 763 is wrong. What possible reason would the club have of giving out a lower crowd figure than was actually present!?!?

If this thread has proved anything, its that supporters ALWAYS over estimate their own crowd, and underestimate the opposition's. Thankfully clubs like Pats, ROvers and Bohs are releasing official figures as this bickering over 100 or so fans is absolute nonsense

[sfc red]

And Shels :)

[NY Hoop]

Stupid idea having matches on a tues night

Stupid idea having matches on a thursday night too.

Hopefully big crowd tomorrow at tolka.

KOH

[Paddyfield]

Spot on, def 1,200 would be max, our worst crowd of the season. Stupid idea having matches on a tues night, esp for first div sides. tues/wed will only work for a cup replay, crowd wise, never for lge games.

Tuesdays are the new Thursdays.

[monutdfc]

I only pass on the figure I receive from the club.

Boring is probably too good a word for it and if things dont improve soon all that will be going are the 200 or so die hards
Sorry BR, not having a go, just giving an alternative count; it's very difficult to judge a small crowd in a large stand anyway.
New stand is absolutely superb btw.

[peterc1992]

Id reckon more that 450,there was more on the lines of 600

[pineapple stu]

Thankfully clubs like Pats, ROvers and Bohs are releasing official figures as this bickering over 100 or so fans is absolute nonsense
Hey, even when UCD release an official figure, some people will still bicker!

Update after week 15. Does anyone go to Derry games these days?


PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 2,158 (2006 - 1,463; 2005 - 1,976; 2004 - 2,340)
Bray - 1,236 (1,027; 1,550; 818 FD)
Cork - 3,467 (2,941; 3,644; 4,033)
Derry - 3,000 (3,229; 2,698; 1,672) (missing Drogheda, Rovers and Waterford)
Drogheda - 1,800 (1,751; 1,682; 1,554) (missing Bray)
Galway - 2,203 (1,148 FD; 566 FD; 571 FD)
Longford - 686 (681; 1,004; 1,131) (missing Cork)
Pat's - 2,230 (1,342; 1,599; 1,882)
Rovers - 1,453 (1,089 FD; 1,539; 1,349)
Sligo - 1,157 (1,806; 1,794 FD; 781 FD)
UCD - 689 (546; 653; 306 FD)
Waterford - 1,263 (915; 1,513; 1,753)

FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 918 (421; 316; 291)
Cobh - 530 (368; 403; 240)
Dundalk - 1,688 (1,078; 474; 591)
Harps - 615 (428; 1,347 PD; 1,106)
Kildare - 278 (265; 186; 298)
Kilkenny - 148 (122; 185; 110) (missing Monaghan and Wexford)
Limerick - 825 (364; 669; 188)
Monaghan - 280 (204; 183; 182) (missing Kildare and Shels)
Shels - 1,113 (1,690 PD; 1,949 PD; 2,158 PD)
Wexford - 1,243 (n/a) (missing Harps)

Premier Division average - 1,704 (1,535; 1,759; 1,853)
First Division average - 782 (570; 520; 512)

Overall average - 1,269 (1,070; 1,195; 1,218)

FD is an average crowd in the First Division; PD is an average crowd in the Premier Division. I've only put that in where the attendances was when the club was in a different one to their current division.

Recent matches missing -
Derry v Waterford
Drogheda v Bray
Longford v Cork
Kilkenny v Wexford
Monaghan v Shels
Wexford v Harps

[WindmillWarrior]

1,700 for Drogs v Bray

[pete]

AERTEL's eL Focus is on League attendences this week, with this thread getting a mention in absence of official figures.

Aertel (http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/features/elfshane4.html)

At least they give a link to foot.ie on the online article. Hi RTE.. :p

[BohsFans]

While attendances are on the up across the league, clubs are always looking for ways to increase awareness of their fixtures, and also of their community work.

Yesterday, Paisley helped the Super Saints to boost their profile in their area by helping a team of St. Pat's workers to drop leaflets throughout residential areas near to their Richmond Park home.

Attendances have been very impressive throughout the league this season and have increased by 29.31% on last year. A total of 187,896 people watched the opening 150 matches of the 2007 season. This compares with the 120,121 who watched the opening 124 fixtures of last season.

When averaged out, this shows that there is on average an extra 300 people at every single eircom League of Ireland fixture this season - an increase of almost 30%.


http://www.eircomloi.ie/news_item_148.htm

[passinginterest]

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Wexford - 1,243 (n/a) (missing Harps)

Wexford v Harps[/B]

Officail attendance from Wexford Echo (http://www.wexfordecho.ie/news/story.asp?j=26866&cat=sport) 824

[Sam Savic]

Rovers V Bohs.......... 4206 official attendance.

[gael353]

Tonight was fantastic. Not just for the win but the atmosphere was class.

801 was the attn

[sonofstan]

Great crowd Sam, was it as poor of game as being reported lads ?

We all deserve our money back

[Dr.Nightdub]

Guessing about 1900 for Pats v Derry. Stand about 2/3 full = 1200, say 300 at the Shed end (including the open terrace), Camac was defo busier than usual so say 500 between the two parts. About 300 from Derry, of whom approx 250 had drums.

[Flexy]

Guessing about 1900 for Pats v Derry. Stand about 2/3 full = 1200, say 300 at the Shed end (including the open terrace), Camac was defo busier than usual so say 500 between the two parts. About 300 from Derry, of whom approx 250 had drums.
Thats a great crowd down from Derry, especially when they are doing rubbish and also with the match being on Friday. Which teams bring the best away support to your grounds?

[Mr A]

452 at Harps Athlone last night. Woeful, woeful crowd when the team is doing so well.

Incidentally my figure for the Kildare game was about 25 fewer than it should have been.

[OhNoYouDidn't]

Thats a great crowd down from Derry, especially when they are doing rubbish and also with the match being on Friday. Which teams bring the best away support to your grounds?

a large proportion of them would be Dublin based.

[Flexy]

a large proportion of them would be Dublin based.
A few dublin teams wouldn't even take that to a Dublin derby

[Sam Savic]

A few dublin teams wouldn't even take that to a Dublin derby

Bray ( Dublin team ) brought 34 to Tolka against Rovers.