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pineapple stu

07/08/2009, 1:36 PM

but those people who do not follow the LOI , probably have never even heard of MNS.
For me More Advertising and more Live Matches are the way to go.

So you reckon that, to compensate for people not having seen the LoI highlights show on TV, we should have more TV coverage? How will people know to watch games on TV if they don't know to watch highlights on TV?

marinobohs

07/08/2009, 1:37 PM

No but I've seen MNS on weekly which cost the FAI 4 million euro. And I've seen the CPOs which is one of the FAI's best initiatives.

Sure more could be done, but frankly the clubs themselves are more useless than the FAI on this front by a country mile.

While it is the responsibility of the FAI to "big up" the League (and to be fair they have improved on this) it is down to clubs to highlight individual matches. Some clubs do this very well Sham Rovers (through gritted teeth :)) have in my opinion been far and away the best at promoting games/Tallaght etc. Far too many clubs appear to wait for media coverage and consequentially it does not happen.
Anyway back to thread, and best of luck to Pats - good city to visit so hope for fans that arrangements (dates) are agreed soon. Tough draw but
should get full house at home (wherever it is played) hopefully to see another great result for Irish football

baddebt

07/08/2009, 1:42 PM

So you reckon that, to compensate for people not having seen the LoI highlights show on TV, we should have more TV coverage? How will people know to watch games on TV if they don't know to watch highlights on TV?

well you would obviously have to advertise the matches , and advertise the MNS show ( an ad during the 6pm news every evening might help).
Its only an idea , i am not an advertising Guru;)

MariborKev

07/08/2009, 2:14 PM

i am not an advertising Guru;)

Really? From some of the insights you provided earlier I got all excited and thought Lord Saatchi had joined foot.ie

seand

07/08/2009, 2:35 PM

Forgive me if this has been covered in the previous 1,700 (!!!) posts in this thread, but were any Pats fans lucky enough to make it to Samara?

Duggie

07/08/2009, 2:45 PM

Forgive me if this has been covered in the previous 1,700 (!!!) posts in this thread, but were any Pats fans lucky enough to make it to Samara?

3 of them. were in the star today. said they were treated very well which was nice of the ruski's.

pineapple stu

07/08/2009, 2:49 PM

Mentioned elsewhere that 3 went with the club, and another 15 or so made their own way.

bigmac

07/08/2009, 3:15 PM

I think its the FAI's responsibility to Advertise and Big up the League Of ireland try and get some major sponsors behind the league .
Just like the GAA have done.
They have Guiness/Vodafone etc all bigging up the All-Ireland championships every year.

Ever see an Ad on TV promoting the league of Ireland ?

In fairness to the FAI, the GAA themselves are pretty rubbish at "bigging up" games - the Vodafone and Guinness advertising is all at the behest of those companies trying to maximise their own returns. Look at the championship attendences prior to the big guns coming on board and they're nothing like present figures. For an example of the GAA on their own, look at what they usually do for the league (half full Parnell Park) versus what they could do for the league (oneTyrone-Dublin game under lights in a sold out Croke Park). If the FAI had a sponsor prepared to seriously back the league, and not just be forced into it as a condition of getting on the international bandwagon, it would be much more likely to see a strong coherent campaign.

superfrank

07/08/2009, 3:24 PM

Think roma played behind closed doors too and it was televised. Not sure if was Roma tho. It was because the ref Frisk got hit with a coin coming off at half time.
I remember watching Real Madrid play Roma at the Olimpico that season. It was on the telly somewhere.

Does that mean no Pats fans can attend the away leg?
For the game above, there were cheers when Real scored. They had a shot of a small group of Real fans, don't know if they were just club officials or other fans.

the 12 th man

07/08/2009, 4:43 PM

This might be a help to St Pats http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/0807/stpatricksathletic.html

baddebt

07/08/2009, 4:48 PM

This might be a help to St Pats http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/0807/stpatricksathletic.html

Gives Pats a little more hope for some sort of away result 1--1 would be nice, 0--1 would be even better

brendy_�ire

07/08/2009, 4:50 PM

Pat's even got a quick mention on Cool FM in Belfast. Strange really, considering they never really mention ourselves.

the 12 th man

07/08/2009, 4:55 PM

Gives Pats a little more hope for some sort of away result 1--1 would be nice, 0--1 would be even better

The "atmosphere" in the ground could easily upset the home team.:cool:

dcfcsteve

07/08/2009, 5:01 PM

Its done to lack of advertising..............which falls on the shoulders of the FAI-WASTERS

Why should the FAI do the advertising for any individual club ? :confused:

Seriously -what's with the welfare mentality ? Surely club's should be advertising their big games for themselves.

dcfcsteve

07/08/2009, 5:03 PM

Yes. They had to knock something like that figure off the national team highlights rights to get MNS on prime time.

Allegedly....

paul_oshea

07/08/2009, 5:03 PM

Exactly too many people on forums steve like to point the finger at someone else and expect things to be done for them. IF you want to change something get off your backside and start doing something about it.

MariborKev

07/08/2009, 5:14 PM

Allegedly....

As much as they are maligned, it would be a fairly big claim to make publicly if it wasn't true.

Dodge

07/08/2009, 5:19 PM

BTW Steaua are appealing their stadium ban and their case being heard at the moment.

Dates etc can't be confirmed until then

don ramo

07/08/2009, 5:30 PM

if steau get the ban both games can be played the same night, sure how many cops do ya need to police and empty stadium:D

OneRedArmy

07/08/2009, 7:46 PM

Allegedly....It was referred to more than once to a room of about 40 LoI fans by Fran Gavin. RTE were fairly blunt about not wanting to show MNS by all accounts.

Sheridan

07/08/2009, 7:53 PM

Con Murphy described it to me as "sheer fantasy", but no-one in RT� has ever commented when presented with the fact that Fran Gavin and others in the FAI have made that assertion in public and private. It's entirely plausible and almost certainly true.

MMVIII

07/08/2009, 9:14 PM

Just a note to Pat's fans. The away leg will be played without the presence of home fans due to message banners against Ujpest in the previous round. Was told what it said but can't remember now.

Don't know if this stops Pats fans from travelling over, I just taught i'd let ye know in case it does.

Sheridan

07/08/2009, 9:19 PM

It's already been mentioned a few times, AR, apparently Steaua are appealing the decision. It would apply to away fans also.

Umberside

07/08/2009, 9:21 PM

Atletico Madrid got a ban for the same thing in the Champions League last year. They had a large tv screen in the stadium (don't know if Steaua Bucharest have such a thing) and it had a live video of fans gathered somewhere in Madrid. When Atletico scored you could hear the fans celebrating.

Sunny Jim

07/08/2009, 9:27 PM

In fairness to the FAI, the GAA themselves are pretty rubbish at "bigging up" games - the Vodafone and Guinness advertising is all at the behest of those companies trying to maximise their own returns.

But don't you see? The GAA are so cute that they get their sponsors to advertise their product for them! Maximum exposure; minimum expense. Why can't the FAI be as cute?

irishultra

07/08/2009, 10:13 PM

don't worry guys when i become a billionaire everything will be ok :)

*btw im serious*

dcfcsteve

07/08/2009, 10:46 PM

But don't you see? The GAA are so cute that they get their sponsors to advertise their product for them! Maximum exposure; minimum expense. Why can't the FAI be as cute?

Because brands want to be associated with Gaelic games. It would bring positive benefits to their product.

Conversely - the LOI's image problem means that very few brands see any value in it. And as TV is by-far the most expensive advertising, why would brands use it to associate their products with something that has a poor image ?

Simples.

kdjaC

08/08/2009, 12:13 AM

http://pix.ie/soccerc/album/350322

theres something you dont see very often, more fans at the airport than at the game :D

yeah im poor couldnt afford the trip and now this stadium ****** for the one i can afford. Cursed to play in front of no fans, we the new shels :( except everyone likes us :D

irishultra

08/08/2009, 12:23 AM

aw emotional :o

brianw82

08/08/2009, 12:30 AM

kdjaC

08/08/2009, 12:36 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_LHcKAkxI8

heartwarming :o

sligoman

08/08/2009, 12:36 AM

Great to see that. Fabio will be falling over in training soon, his head'll be so big.And to think it was only 3 months ago he was challenging Sligo Rovers fans onto the pitch for a fight in Oriel...:D

Dunny

08/08/2009, 12:46 AM

And to think it was only 3 months ago he was challenging Sligo Rovers fans onto the pitch for a fight in Oriel...:D

What? Never heard that....:D

Tony Soprano

08/08/2009, 1:11 AM

Two questions :

1 - If a LOI team made it into the Champions League group stages, do you think RTE would show their matches live ? Would Bohs or whoever v Olympiacos get bigger ratings than Man Utd v Galatasaray ? Awkward position for RTE

2 - Anyone know how much Bohs got from UEFA for winning the league ? Article in the mail saying all national champions get �170k which seems a lot

Sheridan

08/08/2009, 1:14 AM

Two questions :

1 - If a LOI team made it into the Champions League group stages, do you think RTE would show their matches live ? Would Bohs or whoever v Olympiacos get bigger ratings than Man Utd v Galatasaray ? Awkward position for RTE
Their contract with UEFA obliges them to act as host broadcaster for any Irish team that qualifies. They're not happy about it.

2 - Anyone know how much Bohs got from UEFA for winning the league ? Article in the mail saying all national champions get �170k which seems a lotNot so much when you've been budgeting for it and have debts in excess of ten times that amount...

sligoman

08/08/2009, 1:22 AM

What? Never heard that....:DYeah, he was warming up on the sideline in front of us and someone jokingly shouted 'Fabio ya bollo' etc. and he looked up and gave a dirty look...so of course all of us started shouting abuse at him then and 1 or 2 fans went nearer the fence and he gestured for them to come onto the pitch...then the stewards moved him away. I love that about the LOI, players responding to abuse the whole time:).

Mr A

08/08/2009, 8:49 AM

A bouncy castle fight, sounds like fun!

Billsthoughts

08/08/2009, 10:08 AM

would it not be a good relatively cheap way of advertising the match if dublin city council put flags along the liffey the week leading up to the game like they do when dublin are playing or when its gay pride week or whatever?? must be relatively easy to get done...

bennocelt

08/08/2009, 10:20 AM

Two questions :

1 - If a LOI team made it into the Champions League group stages, do you think RTE would show their matches live ? Would Bohs or whoever v Olympiacos get bigger ratings than Man Utd v Galatasaray ? Awkward position for RTE

:rolleyes: how so? as national broadcaster they SHOULD show the Irish team - isnt that obvious

A N Mouse

08/08/2009, 10:28 AM

:rolleyes: how so? as national broadcaster they SHOULD show the Irish team - isnt that obvious

But... but... manchester united are as irish as celtic and they're....

oh hang on ;)

Raheny Red

08/08/2009, 10:40 AM

Cursed to play in front of no fans, we the new shels :( except everyone likes us :D

3 fans to a game, don't start.

Hairy Bowsie

08/08/2009, 11:05 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_LHcKAkxI8

heartwarming :o

Almost as embarrassing as the video with the Cork fans.

redobit

08/08/2009, 11:32 AM

http://pix.ie/soccerc/album/350322

theres something you dont see very often, more fans at the airport than at the game :D

Holy s****, picture JFB_2010 is your one from Eastenders of Emmerdale or whatever that muck show was.

Rovers1

08/08/2009, 12:59 PM

Yeah, he was warming up on the sideline in front of us and someone jokingly shouted 'Fabio ya bollo' etc. .

You really shouldn't have said that to him:o
I was so embarrased for you.

A N Mouse

08/08/2009, 4:53 PM

Any word on tv coverage.

The rights are still Pats' to sell at this stage (?) so should be able to get a bidding war going. They all risk being accused of neglecting the league in favour of foreign teams if they don't show it.

tv3/setanta would want to show it in case Pat's lose, and rte would want to get it in case they win.

The Betting Man

08/08/2009, 5:18 PM

Lets hope Pats great result in Russia will see a big crowd in Inchicore Tuesday night when the double winners and league leaders go to Richmond Park

thischarmingman

08/08/2009, 5:29 PM

I'm pretty sure RTE will cover it, but I hope and pray it clashes with Celtic-Arsenal.

A N Mouse

08/08/2009, 5:47 PM

I'm pretty sure RTE will cover it, but I hope and pray it clashes with Celtic-Arsenal.

Unfortunatley I think I'd be safe enough to offer to run round the brandy stark ****** nekid if that were to happen.

But what I was getting at is we have ammunition against the tv stations if they don't show this. rte, because well they're rte. And tv3/setanta because they have the irish rights to the competition from the group stages on, and would in effect stand to gain if pat's go out.

marinobohs

08/08/2009, 7:36 PM

I'm pretty sure RTE will cover it, but I hope and pray it clashes with Celtic-Arsenal.

Is champions League not on Weds and Europa cup Thurs ? would love to see the RTE confusion - do we show the Irish club or the Oirish club :confused: