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[Dodge]

The away leg will be played behind closed doors as Steaua have been hit with a 2 game stadium ban by UEFA

[Boo_Boy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ifeanyi_Emeghara

Guess not :o.

[Dunny]

The away leg will be played behind closed doors as Steaua have been hit with a 2 game stadium ban by UEFA

Sh!t for the fans.

[Infadel]

Are Steaua the team that refuse to sign black players because their fans would riot or is that another team from central europe?. Saw it on a TV show a few months ago.
Thats Zenith Petersburg your thinking of.

[irishultra]

your probably thinking of zenit st.petersburg.

[Jofspring]

Are Steaua the team that refuse to sign black players because their fans would riot or is that another team from central europe?. Saw it on a TV show a few months ago.

It was Zenit St. as far as i can remember. Dunphy gave out about them winning the Uefa Cup saying they where a racist club and shouldn't have been allowed compete.

[Raheny Red]

Sh!t for the fans.

Amazing for the players!

[back of the net]

your probably thinking of zenit st.petersburg.

yeah its zenit - remember readin an interview with dick advocat saying he wouldnt sign any cos of their fans

[Boo_Boy]

Behind closed doors mean live broadcasts are banned?

[Dodge]

Amazing for the players!

Absolutely

We're used to playing in empty stadiums :)

[Dodge]

Behind closed doors mean live broadcasts are banned?

Don't think so. I seem to remember Inter v Rangers being on TV with no crowd

[irishultra]

nope, shouldnt be anyway. i watched ac milan behind closed doors a few years back...it was the game that porto player scored an absolutely outrageous long range free kick, cant remember the exact player.

[bennocelt]

The away leg will be played behind closed doors as Steaua have been hit with a 2 game stadium ban by UEFA

Are u sure about that Dodge?

at least for Pats the away leg is fist, if they could knick a goal out there it would be class, they already have 4 away goals in the comp so far, so its not unlikely that they couldnt get another one.

I think its a winable tie

[Jofspring]

Think roma played behind closed doors too and it was televised. Not sure if was Roma tho. It was because the ref Frisk got hit with a coin coming off at half time.

[irishultra]

lol ye it basically happens every season in italy.

[amaccann]

Funny how once it reaches a certain point in the competition, all the talk is about making money - "lucrative ties" et al - rather than talking up the chance of making the group stages. Sure none of the ties were going to be easy, but so what? Sooner or later the shock result has to happen!

[Boo_Boy]

nope, shouldnt be anyway. i watched ac milan behind closed doors a few years back...it was the game that porto player scored an absolutely outrageous long range free kick, cant remember the exact player.

Remember than now, Hugo Almeida.

What a bullet.

[Dodge]

Are u sure about that Dodge?

at least for Pats the away leg is fist

100% on the behind closed doors

75% sure that the legs will be switched (home leg first) as Dinamo Bucharest are due to play the same night

[Boo_Boy]

Should find out in the next few days where it will be on TV.

[Jofspring]

And what would Pats have prefered? I would have thought home second so they would have known what they need to do. But then again as far as getting a big crowd to it, home first would be better.

[baddebt]

100% on the behind closed doors

75% sure that the legs will be switched (home leg first) as Dinamo Bucharest are due to play the same night

why will the ties be switched? Both Dinamo and Steaua have different Stadiums

[CuanaD]

100% on the behind closed doors

75% sure that the legs will be switched (home leg first) as Dinamo Bucharest are due to play the same night
I hope the 25% is right - I'm out of dublin on the 20th

(please please please - insert deity here - let it be away leg first) :p

[Dodge]

why will the ties be switched? Both Dinamo and Steaua have different Stadiums

Its a police/advertising thing.

UEFA generally don't allow two games on the same night in the same city

[ger121]

Not the most glamourous tie but there will be a good crowd at the RDS. Seem to remember at the Shels match a few years ago there was a couple thousand Romanian supporters there. No doubt they'd have a decent following in the Romanian Community based in Ireland.

Anyway, they've a slim chance but remember,not many (including me) gave them any hope in the last round against Kryla. They've proven they can score away from home so all to play for. Probably the best chance to get to the group stage an Irish side has had.

[pineapple stu]

Steaua seem to have regressed since beating Shels; they were champions then, but finished sixth last season. Behind closed doors will benefit Pat's hugely, I'd say. I don't think Pat's could have asked for a better set of circumstances to make the group stages, TBH.

[baddebt]

yep , I didn't give them a chance against Kryla. ( perhaps we should give them no chance against Steaua in the hope they could get thru) :)

seriously though, Pat's have a chance, I hope the league will help them as much as possible and reschdule league matches if necessary. For sure all League of Ireland fans will be cheering Pats on

[Mr A]

Does that mean no Pats fans can attend the away leg? real bummer for them, effectively being punished for their opposition's offences.

[The Betting Man]

Home leg confirmed for the RDS according to Newstalk.

[Umberside]

I think Pats have a great chance, though I hope they get the away leg first. That way they could try and hold them scoreless and have the home crowd behind them at home. Definitely the best chance an Irish side has had of making the group stages of any European tournament.

[pineapple stu]

Does that mean no Pats fans can attend the away leg? real bummer for them, effectively being punished for their opposition's offences.
Could you blag an official's pass?

[strangeirish]

at least real romanian woman are hot , so Pat's fans should enjoy the trip
They have a better chance of beating Steaua:D

[irishultra]

as the european dream comes closer once again, im starting to think that even with european qualification it will have very little impact on the masses. as has been said on another thread more people went to see some liverpool poxy z team against some pub team than went to see the champions of ireland vs champions of austria.

[TheBoss]

It is not easiest nor not the hardest but they still have to perform at their best to beat them and to do it again, maybe too much for the players.

[Fester]

100% on the behind closed doors

75% sure that the legs will be switched (home leg first) as Dinamo Bucharest are due to play the same night

Dodge match could be switched to a Tuesday night instead

[irishultra]

it be great if it clashed with arsenal vs celtic :D please god, make rte show the match

[baddebt]

as the european dream comes closer once again, im starting to think that even with european qualification it will have very little impact on the masses. as has been said on another thread more people went to see some liverpool poxy z team against some pub team than went to see the champions of ireland vs champions of austria.


totally agree, just look at the difference in Attandance between Pats at home to Kryla , and then Pats at home to Dundalk just 3 days later

[HarpoJoyce]

Dodge match could be switched to a Tuesday night instead

Throw in Vaslui, up the road, playing AEK Athens and mention specialist trained elite forces from the capital needed for that game and the permutations just grow and grow.

Good luck with it anyway.

[irishultra]

think about it, how many fans of other loi clubs go to these matches? i reckon most of the added fans were fans from other loi clubs.

[Duggie]

if the ties have to be switched do pats have to agree with the home leg been first ? is it not up to steau to make other arrangments with fifa or is it just a case of switching the order ?

[baddebt]

think about it, how many fans of other loi clubs go to these matches? i reckon most of the added fans were fans from other loi clubs.


that was very true , I was at Dalyer for the Salzburg match along with another few Dfc fans.

Its done to lack of advertising..............which falls on the shoulders of the FAI-WASTERS

[CuanaD]

UEFA Club Rankings

This is the current UEFA Club Rankings, including season 2008-09.

Last update: May 27, 2009
Rank Team Points
30 of England - Newcastle 54.899
31 of the Netherlands - Ajax 54.825
32 of Romania - Steaua Bucureşti 53.781
33 of Spain - Espanyol 52.853
34 of Greece - Olympiacos 52.632
35 of Turkey - Fenerbahçe 52.445
36 of Germany - Bayer Leverkusen 51.339
37 of Switzerland - Basel 51.050
38 of England - Middlesbrough 48.899
Taken from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Steaua_Bucure%C5%9Fti

Up to date on Bert's site has Pat's ranked 199th!
199 St. Patrick's Athletic Irl 4.408
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method4/trank2010.html

[pineapple stu]

Its done to lack of advertising..............which falls on the shoulders of the FAI-WASTERS
Advertising isn't the responsibility of the clubs, no?

[HarpoJoyce]

if the ties have to be switched do pats have to agree with the home leg been first ? is it not up to steau to make other arrangments with fifa or is it just a case of switching the order ?

Its usually the competition gets priority and then ( this case) the co-efficients of the individual club(s) (eh start of the season UEFA co-efficient, no made-up stuff half-way through the tournament).
The higher ranking team may call the shots especially if they fill a second leg home tie is to their advantage.

But Bucharest is a city filled choc-full of league teams so they are used to big domestic matches been played within few days of each other.

[baddebt]

Advertising isn't the responsibility of the clubs, no?

I think its the FAI's responsibility to Advertise and Big up the League Of ireland try and get some major sponsors behind the league .
Just like the GAA have done.
They have Guiness/Vodafone etc all bigging up the All-Ireland championships every year.

Ever see an Ad on TV promoting the league of Ireland ?

[Duggie]

Its usually the competition gets priority and then ( this case) the co-efficients of the individual club(s) (eh start of the season UEFA co-efficient, no made-up stuff half-way through the tournament).
The higher ranking team may call the shots especially if they fill a second leg home tie is to their advantage.

But Bucharest is a city filled choc-full of league teams so they are used to big domestic matches been played within few days of each other.

right, suppose it dosent really matter which is first as long as you get a good result to keep the 2nd leg alive.

[Mr A]

I think its the FAI's responsibility to Advertise and Big up the League Of ireland try and get some major sponsors behind the league .
Just like the GAA have done.
They have Guiness/Vodafone etc all bigging up the All-Ireland championships every year.

Ever see an Ad on TV promoting the league of Ireland ?

No but I've seen MNS on weekly which cost the FAI 4 million euro. And I've seen the CPOs which is one of the FAI's best initiatives.

Sure more could be done, but frankly the clubs themselves are more useless than the FAI on this front by a country mile.

[christo]

No but I've seen MNS on weekly which cost the FAI 4 million euro.

Really!!!:confused:

[John83]

Really!!!:confused:
Yes. They had to knock something like that figure off the national team highlights rights to get MNS on prime time.

[baddebt]

No but I've seen MNS on weekly which cost the FAI 4 million euro. And I've seen the CPOs which is one of the FAI's best initiatives.

Sure more could be done, but frankly the clubs themselves are more useless than the FAI on this front by a country mile.

but those people who do not follow the LOI , probably have never even heard of MNS.
For me More Advertising and more Live Matches are the way to go.
Have 4 games on a Friday Night , and the live game on the Sunday evening....that way you do not impact on the anyone's attandances.
its a tough thing to do.....................just to many plastics in the country not willing to give the league a chance

[Raheny Red]

Does that mean no Pats fans can attend the away leg? real bummer for them, effectively being punished for their opposition's offences.

3 fans 0 fans?! it's all the same really.