Cork AUL 2009/10

[kingcorner]

Alright lads

just a quick update on all things leeside. training is well under way now and everyone seems to be enjoying it anyway. both the a team and the b team are getting good numbers so hopefully that keeps up and we are both going for silver this year.

we were due also to enter a c team this year and hopefully we will get the numbers for that aswell and numbers dont die off like most years when people cant handle the training. everyone at the club really wants to give things a go this year and everyone seems committed on the a team and b team, so far........

also it looks like derek is leaving but where is anyone's guess

[pass&move]

Littleman, it's not that they do not want to do whats best for the club. The junior team took on lot of ballyphehane celtic players when they folded. The junior team was stronger than the senior team last season. Niall put in a lot of hard work with these players and got a nice squad together. The commitee aproached him and asked him to do whats best for the club and go senior. I don't think Minty had much of a choice to be honest.


I wouldn't say that the junior's were stronger, its just that they had some good players that were playing in the lower divisions

[pacman]

Fair point Casement but remember all we have to go on here is either what we have heard ourselves or what we have read.

I remember last season it did stand out that certain players were after going to your Aul side.

Players that everybody would have thought would have wanted to play at a higher level so we cant be blamed for thinking its a bit strange.All the same as long as they stay with your club its a good thing an how its all handled should be your own buisness.Your manager sounds like he has the respect of the players,junior or senior an thats all he can ask for.Best of luck.

Rebel sorry for the delay in gettin back to your question about the Liverpool coach'es up in our place.There were actually 3 of them that turned up.They had sent us over a couple of DVD'S of how they do their club pre season an we have bein trying to go along those lines but adapting it to suit a non pro side.They gave us pointers on what we need to be doing in pre season and then they spoke to the large group of players there an had a question an answer session about how their first pre season team training is done.Very impressive it was too.All in all it was a great experience for the lads.
Hey littleman, any chance you could give us a high level overview of what their pre-season routine looks like. I'd be interested to know if they do anything really advanced or do they do the basics at proffessional level also?

Don't worry you wont be showing your hand to all the other teams........

[littleman]

Well Pac I would have be like you in thinkin that they had some really fantactic way of gettin the players really fit quick but it aint.We were told their first team are away in China at the minute an they have 3, 2 hour sessions a day,cardio,weights an stamina in that order.

We have tried to encorporate 2 of the 3 with our hour an 45 mins,an a small game of ball to keep the boys happy at the end.15 mins max.Cause with most of the lads workin before they train doin weights may not be greeted well so we have left that one out.Twas an eye opener alright as they said they dont do any ball work till 2 weeks before the first game.They are pros so ball skills arent a problem to them,well there not supposed to be anyway.Ngog:p

Our lads thought pre season training for the an hour an 45 mis Tuesday,Thursday an Saturday is though never mind what the pros do.They told me that when the players finish the season an go on holiday they get diet plans an fitness plans an they have to keep with in certain limits with regards to food an drink.But with regards to startin basic pre season,hard work an lots of it was the key according to them.Small hard running as opposed to long runs which was a surprise to me because as long as Iv been doin pre season the long laps around the pitch was always considered a must..Short quick bursts of work,with only a little time in between the routines to get your wind back and try to keep the intensity up all the time.Must be some life though,gettin up every day to go training an play ball,paradise.

[rebelhead]

cheers for the info littleman,any chance of those dvds???lads on paddy power the betting has started on the fai junior cup for next year,looking at the odds the first aul team r kinsale at 40/1,fairly high,quiet funny i must say!pre season going well for us,very tough lot of hard work,on the plus side lot of work being done to pitch,so hopefully any team that come us to this year will enjoy playing on our pitch,i know its not the best in the aul,but as we said before there is a lot worse,lads let have a vote worsed pitch in the aul?????

[pacman]

Well Pac I would have be like you in thinkin that they had some really fantactic way of gettin the players really fit quick but it aint.We were told their first team are away in China at the minute an they have 3, 2 hour sessions a day,cardio,weights an stamina in that order.

We have tried to encorporate 2 of the 3 with our hour an 45 mins,an a small game of ball to keep the boys happy at the end.15 mins max.Cause with most of the lads workin before they train doin weights may not be greeted well so we have left that one out.Twas an eye opener alright as they said they dont do any ball work till 2 weeks before the first game.They are pros so ball skills arent a problem to them,well there not supposed to be anyway.Ngog:p

Our lads thought pre season training for the an hour an 45 mis Tuesday,Thursday an Saturday is though never mind what the pros do.They told me that when the players finish the season an go on holiday they get diet plans an fitness plans an they have to keep with in certain limits with regards to food an drink.But with regards to startin basic pre season,hard work an lots of it was the key according to them.Small hard running as opposed to long runs which was a surprise to me because as long as Iv been doin pre season the long laps around the pitch was always considered a must..Short quick bursts of work,with only a little time in between the routines to get your wind back and try to keep the intensity up all the time.Must be some life though,gettin up every day to go training an play ball,paradise.

Cheers for that Littleman.
Like you littleman most of my pre-seasons included the long laps and continuos running. Then one year we had a guy come in specifically for pre-season. It was all high intensity, short breaks, not a single lap the entire pre-season. And it was definitely the best shape our team was ever in.

Munster and Cork hurlers utilize this type of training also, so definitely the days of long runs are in the past. Slow running equals slow players.


Sounds like things are going well up in O'Neill Park, anyone know how Blarney Street are getting on? Would like to see the league return to the northside.

[pacman]

lads let have a vote worsed pitch in the aul?????

think we did last year, but anyway has to be silverheights. Village back in the premier, lots of teams looking forward to that one.

I've never seen so many German Sheppards in one place.

Seeing as we have a Dillons Cross member on board now, thats nearly as bad....

[littleman]

Sorry Rebel but any little things that can give us an edge this year we are keepin strictly to ourselves;).But what I will say is the internet if full of sites offerin info on pre season routines ,have a look.

With regards to pitchs,look lads some of ye are lucky to have great pitchs,some of us wish we could have better an no doubt theres some that dont care what they play on.Village an Dillons place may not be paradise but if anyone has any ideas about winning a league you still have to beat them on there home ground an they can play ball too lets not forget.Village have a good bunch of players and are back preseason at this stage nearly 4 weeks.They wont struggle for numbers either so I'd expect them to do well.Our own place is'nt great but knowone can fault us for trying to get it as good as we can thats for sure.All the one what ya play on you still have to win.;)

With regards to the Street,I know they were back pre season last Tue but thats it.Very quiet other than that.

One thing I will say lads is that teams will find it hard this year,especially Northside teams.Too many teams an not enought players is startin to take a heavy toll on clubs.From the various rumors doin the rounds their seems to be clubs senior and junior(us encluded) chasin after a smaller an smaller pool of players.Tough times ahead lads.

[olachico]

Last year I was in Dubai in early June! Treated myself to a nice holiday in one of the top hotels in Dubai! It looks out at the 7 star hotel - there is a point to this so keep reading LOL - Anyway Jon Stead was there as was Joleon Lescott and Steve Harper from Newcastle (think its the same hotel where John Terry and Joleon Lescott were being tapped up by Mark Hughes this year) . Anyway the place had one of the best equipped Gyms I have ever seen ! And these 3 were in there everyday - and in fairness they were doing pretty heavy duty training when they were on holidays so Littleman is spot on with regards to the fitness programs they get - unfortunately we cant do the same when fellas are heading to Benidorm for 2 weeks or wherever they go - pre season is vital in junior football if its done right - too intense and the players are ****ed for the start of the season - not intense enough and you are struggling towards the end of games at the start of the season - Do people here feel its hard to get the balance right?

[littleman]

The whole thing hinges on 2 things,ATTITUDE / COMMITMENT.
If you have players who want to work hard to improve their game an be the fittest they can then you achive anything at your level.

Look lads we have all wished we could train like the pros an have the best of everything.An we couldnt because we never got the chance an now we have wifes an kids an jobs an thats our lot in life .We know our level.

But it cost nothin to have a pro attitude dose it.I want to train hard.I want to improve.I want ot win things.All this you can do for free.

Look up how the pros do their training,the stamina/cardio side.Suit it to your needs an away you go.Thats all it takes.Sounds easy dosent it,so why arent more of ye doin it.

[Southsider]

By the sounds of it Bella its Neil Duggan youe aftre signing. Glasheen Seniors last year but living in Cobh now. Great football brain and still fit even tho in his mid to late 30s. Bit of a nutter tho so you have been warned;)

[Southsider]

What if the best players in your club wanted to stick together, say because they are buddies, the A team manager could force them to play with the first team, but they may walk. Minty may thought that if the B players had had no interest in doin whats best for the club then he may not want to be envolved with something like that.
We can confirm that Minty is gone and Niall has stepped up. Emergency meeting called last night at training supposedly Minty said he cant get a team together ( out of four training sessions 5 was the most players he had at the one time) stating anyone he asked declined so offered the job to Niall, Niall put it to us after training stating its vital that Casement have a good quailty senior side and that he thinks we should step up, no complaints from anyone. Only one condition we wanted was for Niall to be the gaffer and nothing changes only the league were playing in. So our planned assault on the AUL is switched to MSL :D Littleman they tried that last year telling players they must play with the top team if their good enough but as you said players will walk and they told them so last season.

[littleman]

Cheers Southsider,it can be hard bein honest about things not goin according to plan within a club,but at least ye have tried to make the best of it.Appriciate the honesty as you didnt have to say anythin.Best of luck,tis just a pity the Oscar Traynor side could have done with some of the talent.;)

[Southsider]

Cheers Southsider,it can be hard bein honest about things not goin according to plan within a club,but at least ye have tried to make the best of it.Appriciate the honesty as you didnt have to say anythin.Best of luck,tis just a pity the Oscar Traynor side could have done with some of the talent.;)
No problem Littleman i said id give the full story for everyone to see before every sort of rumour will be starting about what "really" happened ;). Id certainly agree that the Oscar Traynor panel would have been alot better off if we didnt move on up. Does this mean i must join that horrible MSL page cause id much prefer to chat amongst real football men :eek: ????

[pass&move]

So our planned assault on the AUL is switched to MSL

I take it that ye wont have an AUL side so this year, another one gone before we start, the AUL needs to have a serious look at itself now.

[bellavistaman]

By the sounds of it Bella its Neil Duggan youe aftre signing. Glasheen Seniors last year but living in Cobh now. Great football brain and still fit even tho in his mid to late 30s. Bit of a nutter tho so you have been warned;)

thats what i like to hear, good signing i reckon. Cheers southsider

[Southsider]

I take it that ye wont have an AUL side so this year, another one gone before we start, the AUL needs to have a serious look at itself now.
There will be an AUL 2 team still there. Its lasts years senior team. They started last year as an AUL side but cause the commitee f*****d up appointing the new manager the junior side had to go up senior meaning our AUL 3 side had to go AUL 2. Same as this year really :o:o:o. So Casement will Have MSL team,AUL 2 team and the Youth team.

[Southsider]

thats what i like to hear, good signing i reckon. Cheers southsider
No probs. Good character to have around the club aswell.

[bellavistaman]

No probs. Good character to have around the club aswell.

yeah noticed that already hasnt even trained yet and pick that vibe up from him. How bad!

[Casement_Fella]

Neil Duggan is still a great player. He's a very good player to have around any club. Was quality in his day and still has a lot to offer. A bit saucy but you need one or two in your team like him. All in all a good signing bella!!!

[el nino coro]

Hey el nino coro where good down here for a coach. ye should get on to him he will bring ye up some well needed players.:D

boo its ye who need the players not grattan.ye could be playing 1A next year id say.grattan have 2 managers that know what there doing simple as

[Innishvilla]

cheers for the info littleman,any chance of those dvds???lads on paddy power the betting has started on the fai junior cup for next year,looking at the odds the first aul team r kinsale at 40/1,fairly high,quiet funny i must say!pre season going well for us,very tough lot of hard work,on the plus side lot of work being done to pitch,so hopefully any team that come us to this year will enjoy playing on our pitch,i know its not the best in the aul,but as we said before there is a lot worse,lads let have a vote worsed pitch in the aul?????

Those odds are a bit weird to say the least, Ballypheane are quoted as 80/1 last time I looked. Fairly short odds for a club that doesn't exist...

Separate note it'll be interesting to see the make up of the divisions, there are quite a few teams gone now...

Also Casement, I'm just trying to get it clear. The former 2nd team (AUL), i suppose squad is better than team. The AUL squad is now playing MSL and the MSL squad is going to the AUL? Am I correct in that. Will there not be problems as I thought in one of your posts you said there were only about 5 showing up for training for the MSL squad, or is there another team/squad training as well... Sorry for the confusion...

[Southsider]

Those odds are a bit weird to say the least, Ballypheane are quoted as 80/1 last time I looked. Fairly short odds for a club that doesn't exist...

Separate note it'll be interesting to see the make up of the divisions, there are quite a few teams gone now...

Also Casement, I'm just trying to get it clear. The former 2nd team (AUL), i suppose squad is better than team. The AUL squad is now playing MSL and the MSL squad is going to the AUL? Am I correct in that. Will there not be problems as I thought in one of your posts you said there were only about 5 showing up for training for the MSL squad, or is there another team/squad training as well... Sorry for the confusion... Its complicated inish even for a guy involved in the club but here goes, its lasts years Seniors who will be playing Junior this season not the 5 lads who Minty brought to training the past few weeks. The commitee was working on getting a league for another team(last years seniors) which is the lads who got the club out of a major hole last season when moving from AUL 2 up to MSL to save Senior status. These lads were not Senior players bar 1 or 2 but worked hard all season and stuck together and buying the club precious time to fix the mistake of not sussing out the manager they appointed at the start of the season so the committe decided the least they could do was keep them in the club and making up a new team for them but with Minty not being able to get his team going there was no need to start another team meaning they replaced Niall Harringtons side in AUL 2. Think that should clear it up ;)

[Innishvilla]

Its complicated inish even for a guy involved in the club but here goes, its lasts years Seniors who will be playing Junior this season not the 5 lads who Minty brought to training the past few weeks. The commitee was working on getting a league for another team(last years seniors) which is the lads who got the club out of a major hole last season when moving from AUL 2 up to MSL to save Senior status. These lads were not Senior players bar 1 or 2 but worked hard all season and stuck together and buying the club precious time to fix the mistake of not sussing out the manager they appointed at the start of the season so the committe decided the least they could do was keep them in the club and making up a new team for them but with Minty not being able to get his team going there was no need to start another team meaning they replaced Niall Harringtons side in AUL 2. Think that should clear it up ;)

Cheers, I think... I either understand it fully now or else I'm even more confused :confused:.
Anyway, for now Casement Celtic should have 1 team playing MSL Senior 2nd Division and 1 team playing AUL 2? Yes?

A question not specifically aimed at Casement, but could be possibly answered by them. Why when a team joins or is a member of the MSL can/do they have a junior team playing AUL and not MSL junior? Examples, Lakewood, Casement, Ballinhassig, Ballincollig, Castleview, Leeds, Passage, probably others as well...

[Innishvilla]

Hi anyone know if they've released the league structure/list for next season or when they will be released?

With the various clubs folding mid-season last year there will need to be a little bit of re-structuring going on...

[Horse24]

Well, we went back tonight with 17. Delighted with the turnout and the few new faces played well.

Littleman, is Minty going to take the AUL job?

Any news on the 5 players he had, specifically Jason Keegan?

Those who are back a fortnight - has any players packed it in already?

[Yoda01]

how do all? enjoy the bit of a break?
we all looking forward to the new season?
any one with a blarney street affiliation confirm the manager has departed?
bit of a bombshell if true at the very start to the season.

[Casement_Fella]

It now looks like the senior team from last year will be playing MSL junior with the AUL 2 team going MSL senior. So no AUL team from casement?? We're not sure ourselves. If so then i know the AUL will miss out on using Casement Park for the Oscar Traynor games.

[littleman]

Yoda sounds like what I'v heard as well,manager stepped down last monday. from what I heard in the Anglers.

[Yoda01]

Yoda sounds like what I'v heard as well,manager stepped down last monday. from what I heard in the Anglers.

ya i heard that also littleman, strange time to step down. 1 week in to preseason. all must not have been right up there for him to make that decision. always thought he was a good young manager! shame.

[littleman]

I agree with ya Yoda.I thought Power was a good prospect.Not many younger lads taken the plunge an he seemed to be very interested in improving things with the Street.Sorry to see him go.

[Horse24]

Thats a story I didnt expect to hear. Best of luck to Mr Power and to Blarney Street.

Two recent candidates for the AUL job?

[junglegym]

I agree with ya Yoda.I thought Power was a good prospect.Not many younger lads taken the plunge an he seemed to be very interested in improving things with the Street.Sorry to see him go.

Big Shock for the Street if this is true. This young man has proved that he can bring out the best of his players over the last number of years.
Good Luck for the Future :ball:

[olachico]

Not going to speculate about Blarney Street as i'm sure someone will have the inside story but nothing surprises me anymore - football including junior football is a funny place

So am i right in saying so far that
Glenthorn , Blarney Street, Knockavilla and Grattam will all have new management teams for the season ahead - did i miss anyone else there in the Premier?? interesting times ahead!!

[littleman]

To nites norrie news comes live from the Mercy A an E where im waitin with Shinkwin to get his bleeding head stitched up.His head had a meeting with Brian Sulls teeth an came off the worse. The joys of management,it dont just finish when you lock the gates to the pitch.Sully just rang to see if we'er ok an to tell us his teeth are ok. Its a weight off me an Shinkys mind knowin his choppers are ok.

All jokes aside the lads pre season is goin great for the Gratts an the lads are really puttin it in. A few games lined up ana few surprise shoppin gifts may yet find their way up to O'Neill Park.
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Well lads any news floatin about,pre season

[kingcorner]

Littleman

Was up your way the other day, your pitch and facilities are looking very good. look forward to coming up there for a titanic battle! the season is nearly upon us looking forward to it ;)

[pacman]

To nites norrie news comes live from the Mercy A an E where im waitin with Shinkwin to get his bleeding head stitched up.His head had a meeting with Brian Sulls teeth an came off the worse. The joys of management,it dont just finish when you lock the gates to the pitch.Sully just rang to see if we'er ok an to tell us his teeth are ok. Its a weight off me an Shinkys mind knowin his choppers are ok.

All jokes aside the lads pre season is goin great for the Gratts an the lads are really puttin it in. A few games lined up ana few surprise shoppin gifts may yet find their way up to O'Neill Park.
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Well lads any news floatin about,pre season

Is that the type of training ye're doing Littleman??? And I thought you were a football man.

I reckon you're pampering your stars, I'm sure Shinky could have coped by himself or were you worried he'd be tapped up?

[pass&move]

To nites norrie news comes live from the Mercy A an E where im waitin with Shinkwin to get his bleeding head stitched up.His head had a meeting with Brian Sulls teeth an came off the worse. The joys of management,it dont just finish when you lock the gates to the pitch.Sully just rang to see if we'er ok an to tell us his teeth are ok. Its a weight off me an Shinkys mind knowin his choppers are ok.


Perfect timing Weeman, check out Billys blog (A First Aid course has being arranged) LOL

[Horse24]

I reckon you're pampering your stars, I'm sure Shinky could have coped by himself or were you worried he'd be tapped up?

Haha you cant even leave a fella in hospital alone. Are you ambulance chasing, pacman?

[el nino coro]

pre season friendly:


blarney st v castleview at the fairfield
sat i think its on at half 2

[bluey]

league structures still not ready from what i hear. leeside second team today asked to go premier a for the coming season. so i say there will be teams throughout all leagues asked to make a jump up for the season

[Innishvilla]

league structures still not ready from what i hear. leeside second team today asked to go premier a for the coming season. so i say there will be teams throughout all leagues asked to make a jump up for the season

well they needed to find 2 teams to make up the Premier A numbers, I think the word at the end of the season was Greenmount would go up as runners up in Div 1 (remember controversy over match abandoned with 1 minute left to play).
The next best 1st division sides in terms of points would have been Buttevant & Richmond in 1 & 1A runners up on 35, strange there are 3 other division 1 teams (Ballyvolane, Rylane and Postal Celtic) that accumulated more points than Leeside B, oh yeah just spotted They'd hardly promote Ballyvolane as their 1st team is Premier A anyway.
I don't know if other teams have been asked/offered but it'd be interesting to see what others think. Should they look at relegated teams???

League structures will have to be modified a lot as those 1st divisions that provide the teams will need to find an extra team to make the 10 team divisions. I do think this is a good format, to have as many divisions as possible 10 team ones as it leads to less of a fixture congestion at the end of the season.

[olachico]

Lads i'd say it will be a while before we know the league formats! Looking at the MSL forum there it was suggested that Passage are amalgamating their two AUL sides - Also Lee Rangers, Albert Rovers, Dunbar B, Glenthorn Celtic B and 2 Casement teams it seems are gone from last year so it looks like it wont be an easy job to organise this season!! I also have a feeling there will be a few more to add to that list!

And of course not forgetting Ballyphehane and Villa

[pass&move]

Heard from a reliable source that Blackstone were asked to go Prem A by the AUL.

Looks like Prem A will consist of 12 teams,the 5 that remain from last season + 7 up from the 3 1st devisions.

[olachico]

Heard from a reliable source that Blackstone were asked to go Prem A by the AUL.

Looks like Prem A will consist of 12 teams,the 5 that remain from last season + 7 up from the 3 1st devisions.

You are indeed correct - Blackstone were asked to gp Prem A - a challenge we are delighted to accept - thought Horse should have been the one to say it though - not me!

[boshea]

Question for ye lads.....

Do many clubs take on the services of a fitness professionals/personal trainers to run their pre-season physical training or would there even be any interest at all in it?

[Innishvilla]

Heard from a reliable source that Blackstone were asked to go Prem A by the AUL.

Looks like Prem A will consist of 12 teams,the 5 that remain from last season + 7 up from the 3 1st devisions.

That's a lot of league games (22) for teams that will probably all enter FAI and MJC with the hopes of getting to the "out of town" rounds. Add in the AOH and Mossie cups the Premier A season could be running for ages (throw in the weather we're currently having).
I'll be honest I thought the 10 team divisions was a very good thing.

All the best to Blackstone, I saw ye last year and have to admit looked a very strong outfit. If ye've added to that I could really see ye challenging.

[olachico]

That's a lot of league games (22) for teams that will probably all enter FAI and MJC with the hopes of getting to the "out of town" rounds. Add in the AOH and Mossie cups the Premier A season could be running for ages (throw in the weather we're currently having).
I'll be honest I thought the 10 team divisions was a very good thing.

All the best to Blackstone, I saw ye last year and have to admit looked a very strong outfit. If ye've added to that I could really see ye challenging.

Cheers - cant imagine it being a 12 team league to be honest but we will have to wait and see!!

[bogwarrior]

Question for ye lads.....

Do many clubs take on the services of a fitness professionals/personal trainers to run their pre-season physical training or would there even be any interest at all in it?

We've done it for the last two years and it's been very beneficial in my opinion. Training is varied and tough but you know you're doing the right stuff. If you have fellas who are qualified to do it inside the club then great, if not i'd try and get someone in who knows what they are doing to prepare your team properly. Perhaps give you a blue print for the season.

[Horse24]

Last night we received a call asking if we would like to play Premier A next season. We decided to accept the offer. The board, managers & players are all very excited at the prospect.

I dont think the AUL intend to have a 12 team division, so some of those offered before us must have turned it down.

My mother summed it up best on the phone: " I heard ye are in the Premiership"...........................Bring it on!!