Cork AUL 2009/10

[the owl]

Ha, dont know man, you might have to ask the legend himself, and your buddy. Connie love........
Let me guess though, bet ya had Man City ?
The Guvnor, up front ?......would have paid to see it.
i actually heard he was late from one the leeds seniors.

[Radiostar]

LeedsPk as far as I know as soon as we get your money you will be kicked for trying to fix the competition! thats according to Conny anyway!

[Radiostar]

Good news on that too Owl, Rugsy is out on day one!

[Onefootednopace]

Well lads, we were beaten 3-0 in Waterford on Sunday. As there's alot of talk about refs recently I must say that we had 2 linesmen on Sunday and what a difference it makes, the ref really had an easy job as the other 2 made most of the decisions for him!!! And, in fairness, they were rarely wrong....

Folks I know ye want to give the Referees discussion a break but I just have a query. As it's the norm to have 3 officials officiating at the latter stages of National and provincial cups. Is it possible to have linesman assisting the referee for say, an important A.U.L. league game (for example top of the table clash in any division) or the advanced stages of the A.O.H. cup?. To the best of my knowledge, I can't ever recall such a scenario except for cup finals or semi finals. I wonder has any club on here requested this from the A.U.L ? I know there would be extra expense involved but would it be worth it if it would help eliminate that dodgy offside call or incorrectly awarded throw in? It’s not a solution to poor refereeing as there will always be an element of human error, but the more help the referee gets the better. I know there seems to be a shortage of referees but I wonder would the A.U.L be willing to provide linesman if requested?

[Shilts]

I'm sure that there were 3 officials for the league game between Wilton and Kinsale last May.
I must say that the assistant refs did a great job on the night :eek:

[BigfeetBigsocks]

I say it would be on the request of the home team, if ya ask for three officials and you don't mind paying for three officials i dont see why you cannot have three officials , there isn't a rule i know that says apart from top competitions all games must be done by one official. If you were to ask a referee i would say they would love to have three officials at all matches.

[Onefootednopace]

I'm sure that there were 3 officials for the league game between Wilton and Kinsale last May.
I must say that the assistant refs did a great job on the night :eek:
That's my point, it makes sense to have 3 match officials for an important game like that where there is a lot at stake.
I know there's the extra expense incurred, but at least it's an option for clubs to avail of if required.
As for the Wilton v Kinsale game last May, as that game was basically a title decider, were the referees assistants appointed specifically by the A.U.L. or was it by the home team?

[timmypav]

Surely time to call an end to this Ref slating its ruining the forum and just like on the pitch it wont change anything moaning.

Another round of A.O.H cup games next wknd hopefully the pitches wont freeze over with the cold spell,Passage up against Glen Celtic for the third time this season but Im told their down a few players lately so heres hoping
Marty, as far as i can remember we were knocked out of the AOH. It is in the St Micheals cup that we are drawn against ye.

[Innishvilla]

I say it would be on the request of the home team, if ya ask for three officials and you don't mind paying for three officials i dont see why you cannot have three officials , there isn't a rule i know that says apart from top competitions all games must be done by one official. If you were to ask a referee i would say they would love to have three officials at all matches.

Three officials are ideal and I think is the case for all premier games in Limerick but there are two issues.
1. Cost - would each club commit to paying an extra cost of what roughly 1.5 times more than they currently spend
2. Where the hell do they find the referee/assistants from as it is they are streched to the limit regarding referees at weekends with MSL, Cork AUL, Youths and Schoolboys all needing qualified referees

[Onefootednopace]

Three officials are ideal and I think is the case for all premier games in Limerick but there are two issues.
1. Cost - would each club commit to paying an extra cost of what roughly 1.5 times more than they currently spend
2. Where the hell do they find the referee/assistants from as it is they are streched to the limit regarding referees at weekends with MSL, Cork AUL, Youths and Schoolboys all needing qualified referees

Thanks for the replies, I just wanted to know if the A.U.L. would be in a position to provide additional match officials on a one off basis and if any club on here had done so in the past.

As for the cost, that could be prohibitive for most clubs. For Killowen home games, the Referee's fee is usually €42.00, €42.00 x 3 = €126.00 - I don't think our treasurer would be too happy trying to find the extra cash needed nor would the players if the matchday subscription increased significantly. Maybe it's an option if we got to a cup Q-final / Semi-final or were in a top of the table clash, but I don't think we would be requesting 3 officials for every home game. As Innisvilla pointed out, the various leagues around Cork are stretched to the limit as regards availability of referees so I suppose we should count ourselves lucky we have even one referee to take charge.

[BigfeetBigsocks]

Thanks for the replies, I just wanted to know if the A.U.L. would be in a position to provide additional match officials on a one off basis and if any club on here had done so in the past.

As for the cost, that could be prohibitive for most clubs. For Killowen home games, the Referee's fee is usually €42.00, €42.00 x 3 = €126.00 - I don't think our treasurer would be too happy trying to find the extra cash needed nor would the players if the matchday subscription increased significantly. Maybe it's an option if we got to a cup Q-final / Semi-final or were in a top of the table clash, but I don't think we would be requesting 3 officials for every home game. As Innisvilla pointed out, the various leagues around Cork are stretched to the limit as regards availability of referees so I suppose we should count ourselves lucky we have even one referee to take charge.

assistant referees i think normally get €30 i might be wrong, so one match generally with three officials would be €100-€105.

[Onefootednopace]

assistant referees i think normally get €30 i might be wrong, so one match generally with three officials would be €100-€105.

Even with that reduction it's still a considerable expense for a club on a regular basis. I have heard of clubs in the MSL being charged €150.00 per game for 3 officials.

[marty]

Super Mario I play in central defence with Passage

Re; Timmy Pav,Just checked the website and we are def down to play ye in AOH 3d rouund,I think we knocked ye out of one cup already not sure which one though.

[super_mario]

Super Mario I play in central defence with Passage

Re; Timmy Pav,Just checked the website and we are def down to play ye in AOH 3d rouund,I think we knocked ye out of one cup already not sure which one though.


Oh well in that case then well played saturday, ye deserved the win in fairness to ye, Ye are a very well organised team and in the last 10mins i tho i would jus collapse from tracking ye on yer many breaks, as i said in previous comments only for our keeper ye wud have destroyed us. Haha i heard after the game yer manager tried to sign him haha, all a bit of banter tho fairplay to ye...

[olachico]

Horse, i had a suspicion that it was one of ye.......so chico, you have been revealed !!!!!!.......il only tell a few !!haha.


You blew my cover Horse ffs - next time i'll leave the opposition player writhing on the ground

[timmypav]

Super Mario I play in central defence with Passage

Re; Timmy Pav,Just checked the website and we are def down to play ye in AOH 3d rouund,I think we knocked ye out of one cup already not sure which one though. I just checked previous results and we were knocked out by Leeside A in AOH.

[marty]

Nice one Mario we have struggled for a keeper but seem to have it sorted now hes a class act all the same,Im sure ye will be back on track the wknd

Must be some other cup so Timmy I know we are in the St Micheals and county..maybe they made some kind of fxxk up

[olachico]

Has anyone got any info on BALLINTOTIS??? We are playing them at the weekend!!! Doug did ye play them yet??? Or did anyone else play them in the cup????

[Doug89]

Has anyone got any info on BALLINTOTIS??? We are playing them at the weekend!!! Doug did ye play them yet??? Or did anyone else play them in the cup????

We haven't played them yet chico but watched them v Douglas Hall. The Hall beat them 4 or 5 nil. B/Totis gave up after 2nd Hall goal & went to pieces.... Didn't impress me at all.... 'The Rock' was up front for them that night but didn't do a whole pile, not a bad ball player though & his bro can play too but overall ye should be comfortable I'd say:ball:

[super_mario]

Chico played ballintotis last year and if ye are playing them down there pitch it wont be as comfortable as doug suggests because there pitch is brutal and a bit narrow so they can be hard to break down, they are a strong, fit very physical side and diarmuid o sullivan is a good player very strong (obviously) and very fit, his brother (pauidi) got a hat-trick against us and if he is on his game he can be very difficult to keep under control, always a bad time to get them when the GAA season isnt on cos when it starts again there best players go play hurling and football,

Still would expect ye to win tho, but will be a very tough physical game id say......

[olachico]

Chico played ballintotis last year and if ye are playing them down there pitch it wont be as comfortable as doug suggests because there pitch is brutal and a bit narrow so they can be hard to break down, they are a strong, fit very physical side and diarmuid o sullivan is a good player very strong (obviously) and very fit, his brother (pauidi) got a hat-trick against us and if he is on his game he can be very difficult to keep under control, always a bad time to get them when the GAA season isnt on cos when it starts again there best players go play hurling and football,

Still would expect ye to win tho, but will be a very tough physical game id say......

We are playing them at home! Havent a lot of the GAA clubs started their serious training already???

[super_mario]

Yes but they dont really pack in the football till a few weeks before championship comes around, and having played GAA they are encouraged to keep up the soccer at the start to help bring on there fitness

[littleman]

Waterford Utd 3 Cork Aul 0.

[super_mario]

Waterford Utd 3 Cork Aul 0.


Where was that played??

[Horse24]

Owl - I broke the ice bag.......a vital cog in the machine!!! Cant remember if you said how long he may be out.

Hey, losing a friendly isnt the worst thing in the world. The AUL were "out" of the competition on a few occassions last year - its no fun doing it the easy way!!

I heard the officials cost something like €400 for the Passage/Cork City game last weekend. Did well apparently!

I notice the rule in the Youths league is results are expunged if the team has played less than half of its league games. That has some appeal as a compromise.

In our case we had played them twice, won one and lost one.......not sure I would like to give them points back though,3 points are gold at the moment in our melting pot!

[littleman]

Cappaquin was where the game took place.Apparently Waterford train down that direction.Scoreline flattered Waterford from what I was told.

Horse,an interesting rule in the youths rule book also states that youth players are eligable to play with their junior sides in their club.But they have to be registered with the junior team in order to play.A possible bananna skin for some:rolleyes:

With regards to the extra officials for me it depends on the game an whats at stake.We played Kinsale the first year we won the Premier an asked for linesmen for the game.The Aul duly obliged but obviously we had to cover the cost ourselves.

I must admit its great to see the senior league clubs with 3 officials but it isnt for every game,its just when theres ref available to allow for it.As iv said though its a great idea but with out meaning to sound disrespectful to Aul sides or even junior Msl sides , for the most part the script collectedon match day pays for the ref and or even the rental of the pitch.Senior clubs seem to have an easier time for the most part covering the cost of the extra expediture brought about by having extra officials.

Iv seen the larger junior sides in Limerick actually get match sponsors on a weekly basis to cover the outlay for games,an idea to work with isnt it lads.But honestly as long as we all need to rely on the script collected on match day to cover the cost I dont think it'll happen bar the odd occassion when a club asks for it.:)

[super_mario]

Was there any new players given a run littleman, or do you not know???

[littleman]

Sorry Mario but all I was told was the score .Havnt heard who started or what.Anyone else hear anything.

[bogwarrior]

From Waterford Website...

Waterford United ran out 3-0 winners once again in their second pre-season match, against a Cork Oscar Traynor selection at Cappoquin tonight.
The Blues had the better of the first half, and were ahead after 12 minutes when triallist Timmy Purcell smashed home Vinny Sullivan’s cross at the back post. Sullivan and Liam Kearney also went close as United held the upper hand, with Chris Konopka given little to do at the other end.
Willie John Kiely and Paul Carey came on at half time, but it was Sullivan who extended the lead on 66 minutes with his second in two games, taking Paul McCarthy’s clever through ball on the turn and volleying over the Cork ‘keeper from the edge of the area.
Within six minutes Kiely made it 3-0 from the penalty spot. Liam Kearney slipped the Abbeyside hitman clear in the box, and after he was brought crashing to earth, Kiely dusted himself off to send the ‘keeper the wrong way.

Line-up: Chris Konopka (Josh Byrne 75); Alan Carey, Kevin Murray, John Kearney, Kevin Waters; Timmy Purcell (Willie John Kiely 45), Paul McCarthy, Gary Dunphy (Paul Carey 45), Liam Kearney (Gary Keane 75); Vinny Sullivan, David Grincell

[littleman]

The Waterford report makes it out to have been a stroll in the park,the league of Ireland must be brickin it at the thought of those blue an white devils being let loose for the comin season.

[Horse24]

Was there many ins and outs?

We didnt lose any and picked up three. Two have played and did well, Pat Heaphy(Castleview) & John Cotter(Grattan) - scored on his debut. I havent met the third guy yet, but reports say he is training well.

Happy enough with our business.

[super_mario]

We signed just the 1 player and lost none, we signed kenneth lee, a good player now i must say, bags of pace good brain and a neat enough finisher, good signing i must say

[the owl]

Any info on Coachford Prem side lads ?....littleman ?. Have them tomorrow in AOH.
Horse, that player id say will be out for a number of weeks, big loss. Besides him we have lost 1 other player to Leeds seniors. The joys of having a big squad. At least we have the cover for these players.

[thebooboys]

drink ban in operation again for next 48 hours, no problem as everyone is itching for game, actually cant wait, wish it was on now! Massive game for both teams, would give up my muster junior cup medal for a league and we feel its really going to happen this year. MAY THE BEST TEAM WIN LITTLEMAN!!!!!:p

[thebooboys]

what did you think of game wed night littleman in rockmount park, war afterwards, suppose you heard about it all?

[super_mario]

Heard about the game alright, was told it was a shocker and the cold just made it worse haha, Didnt now there was war afterwards tho wat happened??

[littleman]

Just like to go on record an say congrats to Derek Mcarthy on being selected again for the Irish junior panal,richly deserved .Also to Kinsale players an members as they must be well chuffed.

I will say as no doubt a lots of others will agree that I am genuinley disgusted the reward for the Cork Auls Oscar final win was one solitary player being called up.An over a half dozen of loosing Dublin Aul side were choosen.Please feel free to tear strips off me I you think im being too harsh with my comments on the matter all ye connected with the Fai an it grass roots commitee.


Boo Boo I as well as everybody else are well aware that Leeside are having a cracking season.As you are only to happy to tell us.U are also aware I have had the pleasure to have seen ye play on a few occassions this season.An I was genuinely impressed by some of what I saw.Ye have found god,given up the demon drink an repented for all yer sins,an it seems to have done the trick.Fair dues to ye.

We have a massive selection dilema ahead of the game Boo an I'd like ur opinion,will we wear all black, sky blue an navy or the new blue an white hoops with matching blue an white trimmed shorts.

Gok 1 is on at 11:30 today so Il watch that an have a good think about it then.Hope I dont dissapoint ya.

Finally Boo try to remember its called ''the beautiful game '' for a reason.Its not called kick an foul the norrie cause hes a bit more skillful than me game,not that Im referring to your particular style of play,im only talking in general terms



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See ya tomorrow Boo,love an kisses from the Gratts.

[pacman]

what did you think of game wed night littleman in rockmount park, war afterwards, suppose you heard about it all?
what happened boo? What was even happening out in Rockmount park on Wed?????

[the owl]

Coachford 1 Ballyvolane 2 (AET) AOH Cup.

Great win below in coachford. Tough match and felt we deserved it at the end. A young coachford side played well but i felt they relied too much on the long ball. Thought it was heading for pens before Colm Forde came up trumps with a great header from a corner kick with 3 or 4 minutes left on the clock. Lost our left full after 5 mins due to injury and his replacement i his first start had a great game.
Coachford had a very good player up front, i thnk they were callng him "chipper". Very quick and cool in possesion.
Hopefully this will restart our league campaign.

[littleman]

Pac,where have ya been,,,,,,,The Whitechurch folk had a nice comfy win over the Kilkully folk an there were plesentries exchanged afterwords,a typical Rockmount/Marys game.

Boo gets excited bascially everytime the Gratts or even ex Gratts are linked with some mischief.

[pacman]

Pac,where have ya been,,,,,,,The Whitechurch folk had a nice comfy win over the Kilkully folk an there were plesentries exchanged afterwords,a typical Rockmount/Marys game.

Boo gets excited bascially everytime the Gratts or even ex Gratts are linked with some mischief.
cheers littleman, best of luck tomorrow, think i'll take a trip down to watch that one.
I think there could be a sruprise in store in this one, correct me if I'm wrong littleman but i'd say Leeside have a poor record against ye the last few years, for some reason i think this may continue tomorrow,,,,,,

[shetland]

Coachford 1 Ballyvolane 2 (AET) AOH Cup.

Great win below in coachford. Tough match and felt we deserved it at the end. A young coachford side played well but i felt they relied too much on the long ball. Thought it was heading for pens before Colm Forde came up trumps with a great header from a corner kick with 3 or 4 minutes left on the clock. Lost our left full after 5 mins due to injury and his replacement i his first start had a great game.
Coachford had a very good player up front, i thnk they were callng him "chipper". Very quick and cool in possesion.
Hopefully this will restart our league campaign.
thats a great win for yee owl not an easy place to go an win.

[junglegym]

Coachford 1 Ballyvolane 2 (AET) AOH Cup.

Great win below in coachford. Tough match and felt we deserved it at the end. A young coachford side played well but i felt they relied too much on the long ball..

Would have to disagree with you here owl. Fair enough ye went up 1nil from a class strike from Colm Forde but I thought we played ye off the park in the second half, Unfortunately this year we're finding it hard to hit the back of the net and this game was no exception. The goal we got was very srappy but we should have had a couple of more in the 2nd half . Those are the joys. Also we could have had a spotter in that half from a deliberate hand ball , But again it went unnoticed.( Not blaming the ref because he is one of the better ones) Can't believe another Premier side is gone.
Although we lost our shape in the 2nd half of extra time, I felt ye were out on your feet for most of it. We were a lot fitter and deserved to go through(again im entitled to my opinion) No point in arguing now as yere in the hat and thats all that really matters now.
Best of luck for the rest of the season. :ball:

[the owl]

Of coarse i disagree with ya jungle but as you said, theres no point in arguing. Both entitled to our opinion. I do agree though that ye were a bit fitter. I think we both had chances to put the game away but im delighted it was us. Like yerselves we too are finding it hard to put good chances away and it can be very frustrating.
Bes of luck to ye for the rest of the season. Lets hope we both find our scoring boots !!!!

[super_mario]

Bohemians 4-1 Hillington

Not much to say here really was a very poor game to be honest, but after our dissappointing loss last week a game like this is just exactly what we needed, were never ever gonna lose this game and being honest i tho we would hit them for 9 or 10,

[marty]

Passage 3-1 Glen Cel (St Micheals Cup)

Poor enough game here as well but Passage definatly deserved to win,quarter final stage now anyone know who left??

[shetland]

heard from referee today junglegym that it was ballyvolane who were the stronger in extra time,and forced 5 0r 6 corners. he said they should have been 2up and yee got a lucky goal.yee were on top for the rest of second half after yee equalised .,but didnt trouble the keeper much.wheras coachford keeper was kept busy.shows how oppinions differ.

[shetland]

only winners here are kinsale.,think they will win premier in a canter..its a disgrace that at 5 0clock there are still not fixtures up yet. they should be up sat mornings.

[olachico]

Shetland the fixtures will be on Mondays echo :-) Perhaps the AUL are waiting on the results of certain cup games before they send on the fixtures to Barry

[bluey]

Leesise 0-0 Grattan
not at it but looking forward to boo and littleman reports, from what i hear not a great game and both teams had chances to win in the last 5min

Kilereen 1-2 Leeside B

Greenwood 0-1 Leeside C
Great win again today for C team, hard place to go and espically with that massive hole in the middle of park, what a disaster!!! scored early in second half and could of got one or two more towards end, defended v well and keeper was rarely tested. 5 in a row now

Champs of week for me would be Ballyvolane and Chumps without shadow of doubt has to be rylane, concede 9 at home. talking to ref who did that game, blew up with 15 to go so could of been alot more.