Cork AUL 2009/10 [Archive] - Page 27

fruice

21/12/2009, 11:06 PM

littleman

22/12/2009, 12:21 AM

Innishvilla

22/12/2009, 8:12 AM

look im not lookin for a witch hunt,just theres somethings we just cant ignore.An some of the recent posts are very true in their own right.

But I was there an saw it true an proper,the whistle didnt blow an the ball wasnt put out,the Village player called the refs attention to the injury,As well as 20 other people,an only then was the ball put into the net,if it was put out id have been signing the praises from the rafters about him an his club,but its done now .

Somethin like this never goes away,it will always stink.

That's true Wee guy, First and foremost please wish your keeper the very best. I hope he recovers.

On the goal. Remember when Paolo DiCanio caught the ball with the keeper down. He won awards and got really special (deserved) praise. But it also highlights how unusual it is for it to happen...

I can understand a guy tapping in the ball, don't think that I'd have done it but lets be honest a big match you're hyped up open goal ball at your feet, can't say I would even hear a shout from anyone.

But the ref could have shown a bit of common sense by just checking the keeper after - realizing the problem and just restarting the game with a drop ball or something like that...

At the end of the day player health and safety is paramount.

blackiegray

22/12/2009, 9:02 AM

On the village goal if they realised how wrong they had been in playing on and that numerous Grattan players had gone to there players aid whilst they had scored. why didnt they just let grattan go up the under end and score didnt somthing like this happen a few years ago in the lower leagues in england?would this not have been the sporting thing to do? most likely the lad who scored the goal was oblivous to what was going on around him at the time mind on just one thing the ball.

Something like this happened in Serie A a few weeks ago between Ascoli and Reggina. Ascoli scored a sneaky one when Reggina were trying to kick it out and then they let them up the other end in return.

http://www.dangerhere.com/ascoli-do-an-arsenal-sheffield-united/

super_mario

22/12/2009, 9:23 AM

Well in my opinion the refs these days are to slow and unfit to keep up with the game so more often than not they just hang around the middle of the field making bad decisions..

If the ref was up with the play maybe he would have seen smithys injury for himself and seen how bad the lad was then do the right thing and stop the game..

Maybe im wrong and he was right up with the game but somehow i dont think im wrong at all..

And hand on heart if i collided with someone with the force smithy was hit id know the keeper must be really hurt and with everyone ( spectators + player) shouting at the ref to stop the game id have knocked the ball wide or over or picked it up.. At the end of the weekend when the games are done and dusted players have to go back to work and to there families so players welfare should be the priority here

Shilts

22/12/2009, 11:35 AM

First things first I'd like to offer my best wishes for a speedy recovery to the Grattan keeper. Its just sport and win or lose we expect to go home in one piece.
Its incidents like this that make a laugh of the expression 'keepers get way too much protection these days'.
The most serious injuries will always be to brave keepers who put their faces and bodies where others wouldn't put their size 9s.
Look at the Cech and Given injuries in the recent past.

I think that it's very hard to comment on an incident that you didn't see. But player welfare should be top of everyone's list.
As soon as the ref noticed that the player was in trouble with a head injury he should blow the whistle.
Sometimes the ref will follow the ball after a challange that wasn't a foul and won't see that the player is badly hurt (especially if he doesn't scream to high heaven).
As for the Village player, with adrenalin pumping its hard not to put it in the net.
The onus must be on the ref to stop the game not the player...
However, without seeing the incident live its impossible for me to say if there was any fault.
Remember that the refs in our league are on their own with no help from linesmen/asst refs, so of course they will miss stuff.
Its a tough way to lose a game but we all lose games where we think that we were treated unfairly. Look at France v Ireland ffs!
That's football.
The player's welfare and recovery is what's more important now :ball:

KrocBoy

22/12/2009, 1:06 PM

Sorry Boo but i cant agree with the reasoning your givin for Lotty scoring. What happens if Village lose next week, will they fold then ???...we are talkin about a serious head injury to a player who now prob faces losing financially workwise. Yes there was no whistle from the ref and the player was entitled to score but, according to you was to save the club disregarding the welfare of a fellow player.

Owl I think you misread Boo's post, Lotty didn't play any part in the match. It was their center forward Cambridge that scored the goal.

To be fair to the village players involved they didn't exactly have much time to decide what to do,I personally would be of the attitude 'score the goal ask questions later'.
How many times have we all been shouted at to play to the whistle when learning to play the game as schoolboys?

I had a good view of the incident from behind the goal.

After the collision with Cambridge the keeper was lying next to the ball motionless,a village player played on and clipped the ball through to the lad
Cambridge who was now standing 5 or 6 yards (offside) behind the keeper with only 1 defender getting back onto the line, he then used a Thierry Henry style handball control before putting the ball in the back of the net.

Speaking to a few of the Grattan players over the weekend they were annoyed with the ref rather than the Village players. If he was following the ball and didn't see the keeper lying there injured then he must see the offside and handball, or if he was looking at the keepers injury and missed the offside and handball then surely he must blow the whistle and stop the game for the head injury.

We all know being a ref is a tough job but this was easily the worst bit of officiating I've personally come across in all my years of playing and watching games.
Hopefully the Grattan keeper recovers quickly and is back playing sooner rather than later, its only a game after all.:ball:

super_mario

22/12/2009, 2:17 PM

i think after a collision like grattans keepers one when a player is lying motionless jus plain common sense and surely instinct is to stop the game and make sure he is ok

mr versatile

22/12/2009, 5:09 PM

Have read all the posts on this incident not gonna comment on what should have been done or should`nt or whose fault it was etc.... Was not at the game so i would just like to pass on my best wishes to the grattan lad that got hurt and hope he makes a speedy recovery!!

the owl

22/12/2009, 10:51 PM

Croceboy, fair enough i named the wrong player, but irrespective of who scored i was saying that i didnt agree with booboys reasoning behind scoring. Surely all players welfare is priority. and not wether a club are going to fold or not ?

Innishvilla

23/12/2009, 11:13 AM

I'd like to take the opportunity to wish all on here a Merry Christmas. Best of luck to all in their games over the festive period.

kingcorner

23/12/2009, 11:27 AM

Just want to wish ye all a Happy Christmas and a Happy New Year.

It's been eventful to say the least, so hopefully more of the same in the New Year.

Be good and eat and drink loads of the festives. :D

King.

super_mario

23/12/2009, 12:48 PM

Happy christmas to everyone its been a good year i must say..

Good luck in all yer games over the christmas and dont drink to much haha

littleman

23/12/2009, 3:19 PM

Happy xmas lads from all the Gratts an heres to a liitle relaxin time for everyone

pacman

24/12/2009, 8:36 AM

What have the posters here won as either player or manager?

Played about 13 years
Winner of Div 1
Winner of Prem A
Runner up of Prem
Relegated Prem
Final of St Michaels cup
Final of AOH cup

Good few days out around the country too in FAI and Munster.

Not great but not bad either.

littleman

26/12/2009, 12:13 PM

Just to let everybody know,Mark Smith our keeper is hoping to be allowed home today.

DCross06

27/12/2009, 6:02 PM

What have the posters here won as either player or manager?

Im into my 6th season playing aul. 1st season joined in december we were bottom of prem a, got relegated, 2nd season we won 1b and won the county cup, 3rd season we stayed up in prem a finishin mid table, 4th season got relegated, things getting messy all season long most of the experienced players going to our 2nd team, 5th season i joined the lads in the second team last year and won div 3 quite easily nothing to be proud of, and Leaves me to this season, will take staying up, 1st team should stroll it 2nd team will be doing well to stay up. 6 yrs 4 managers, 2 leagues a cup and 2 relegations!!
With Dillons Cross 4 years, nothing the first season, second season we won the second division play-off,(best game i've been involved in), to get promoted, third season we won the first division, got to the last 64 of the FAI Cup and last season we got relegated from Premier A after getting 6 points deducted. Hopefully this season will bring promotion and a trip to the Cross.

littleman

28/12/2009, 11:17 PM

anythin at all played this weekend.

littleman

29/12/2009, 8:55 PM

Hello all,I managed to get a hold of all the cup draws but its to long to post so anyone who wants ta know who they have an in what just ask.

olachico

29/12/2009, 9:35 PM

Who do Blackstone have in the next round of the AOH please Littleman??

littleman

29/12/2009, 10:37 PM

There are still some 1st and 2 nd round games to be decided so the draw for the 3rd wont take place till their done an dusted id say.

AOH Cup
1st Round
Dunbar Cel "A" v Wilton Utd "A"
Strand Utd v Springfield "A"
Springfield "B" v Crescent Ath

2nd Round
Carrigtohill Utd "A" v Knocknaheeny Cel
Ard-na-Laoi v Macroom "A"
Ballintotis v St John Boscos "B"
Dunbar/Wilton v Ballincollig
Passage v Bohemians'
Castleview v Strand Utd/Springfield "A"
Rathcoole Rovers "A" v Park Utd "A"
Churchvilla v Springfield "B"/Crescent Ath
St John Boscos "A" v Ballyvolane "B"
Coachford "B" v Casement Cel
Ballyvolane "A" v Mayfield Utd
Kinsale "A" v Central Rovers
CFC Banteer v Shandon Cel

3rd Round Qualifiers- Draw Not Yet Made due to the games outstanding in the 1st an 2nd rounds.

Village Utd
Douglas Hall
Blarney St Ath
Park Utd "B"
Greenwood "B
Greenwood "A"
Kilreen Cel
Leeside "A"
Coachford "A"
Knockavilla Cel
Knockraha
Glanworth Utd
Dillon's Cross Ath
Corkbeg
Macroom "B"
Waterloo
Afton Villa
Blackstone Rovers
Greenmount Rangers

olachico

29/12/2009, 10:50 PM

Ah ok - saw that posted already on Billys/barrys blog - thought you haad some new info - thanks anyway

junglegym

31/12/2009, 1:33 AM

Since Bella's request to post your Soccer Cv on line has got little response ,lets try it from a different angle for the craic while things are quiet on the football front.

Has the Cross been kind to you over the years?

My record:
As a player : played 3 Won 1.

Thats over 15years so dont be too ashamed if you haven't reached the Holy grail yet.

For all the new posters young or old please respond even if you haven't made it ( if only to make me happy ;))

littleman

31/12/2009, 5:32 AM

Smashin question Junglegym,I'll need a bit of time to cast my memory back but I promise Ill post as soon as I have a good think about it.

Onefootednopace

31/12/2009, 10:26 AM

Never played at the cross, came close on a couple of occasions by getting to a county cup semi final and the quarter final of the Presidents Cup but it was not meant to be.

Southsider

31/12/2009, 11:15 AM

[QUOTE=bellavistaman;1297126]What have the posters here won as either player or manager?

First year out of AUL with Casement Seniors now. Joined Ballyphehane Celtic at 17 and had 5 great seasons with them until they sadly folded. Finished 2nd in AUL 3 in season 1. Won 2nd Division season 2. Season 3 did the double won 1st Division and St. Michaels Cup. Did another double season 4 winning Premier A and Mossie Linnane. Season 5 won Mossie again. Start of season 6 went to the wall :(. Back tho with Casement and top of the league unbeaten so far with the bones of that Hane team :D.

Radiostar

31/12/2009, 2:32 PM

Hello all,I managed to get a hold of all the cup draws but its to long to post so anyone who wants ta know who they have an in what just ask.

Littleman did you see the draw for the St.Michaels cup?

littleman

31/12/2009, 2:45 PM

Radio,go on to Billus blog,on the right hand side look for AUL CUP DATES,click on that an all will be revealed,if that dont work get back ta ma cause im not in work now an Billys blog wont leave my phone down load the attachment.

DCross06

31/12/2009, 3:23 PM

Southsider

02/01/2010, 11:42 AM

What?? Are wew both on about the team who folded they won the double few yrs back, few dunlea's with them i think. Tall cm who was class, their CB O'Mahony i think his name was he was v good aswell. They destryoed us twice that year, one of the best teams i played against over the years anyway
Ya that was the team bell. We were a very good team. Danny Long with Everton Seniors now is the Centre mid your talking about. Genius. 3 Dunleas in that team were Eric Trevor and Poo. The later 2 now with Casement. Will Aherne up front was deady he is back from Oz now and is back with Casement. Alan O Mahony is the Centre half in my eyes was the best defender in the AUL. He was Captain of the OT team aswell before he left for Oz. We were a very strong team then. We got a team of the year when we did the double aswell. Shame the way it ended i suppose.....

olachico

02/01/2010, 2:21 PM

Blackstone V Greenwood off - Gave it as long as we could but still hadnt defrosted in places so the right decision to call it off in the end

Innishvilla

02/01/2010, 3:15 PM

2 trips to the cross
1 win Presidents Cup over Maymount Celtic (long time ago)
1 Loss in County Cup to Watergrasshill (Last year)

olachico

02/01/2010, 5:31 PM

our game in monard was called off too. Think the aul would have all games afternoon kickoff to give us some chance of getting a game in.

Bella I was out in Monard at 2pm today - our pitch was dodgy but the Crescent/Leeview pitch was worse - our game was to be an afternoon kick off

Onefootednopace

02/01/2010, 8:40 PM

Killowen 2 Hillington 1.

Killowen 1-0 up after 30 minutes, Hillington equalised after 82 minutes. Killowen winner in the 89th minute. Free kick from outside the area, free heading straight towards the 'keeper but he let the ball drop between his legs and it trickles over the line. A bit harsh on Hillington as they played well and missed 2 "sitters" during the game but that's the way it goes. Good start to 2010 for Killowen but the failure to keep clean sheets is a problem.

littleman

02/01/2010, 10:27 PM

In answerin your excellent question Junglegym im probablly goin to put myself in line for some knocks but I dont mind,

My first to the Cross was with Marys minors/17s in 88/89 if im correct,Ramblers beat us in the Youths Cup Final. No 1

After Marys I was pursuaded to try my luck with Cork City,I gave it a good go but it just never happened for me,it was an experience though an i made a lot of good friends that i still have.Played once with them out their in a friendly. No 2

I joined Grattan in 92/93 an captained their first ever Aoh final side in 93/94 so encluding the semi against Ballincollig an the final which we lost against Passage. So No 3 an 4, an 5 cause we had to have a play off against Village to decide the 1st div winners(we both finished on 42 points) we lost 2 nil an i missed a sitter,no luck.

Next was the semi of the Aoh again in the Cross against Passage(revenge) in 95/96,which we won. No 6

The the 1st final against Togher was drawn an we won the replay . No 7 an 8.

I played with the Oscar Traynor side managed by Martin Heffernan in 97/98 in the Cross against the TSDL,we lost 3/1. No 9.

We won the Mossie in 03 but I wasnt a part of the team that day,but I was envoled in a coaching role when our minors won the youths league cup the same season against Blarney. No 10

My last an final visit playing wise to the Cross was playin with our B side against Macroom B in the Presidents Cup final in 06/07,we lost that one two. No 11.

So all told I been lucky enough to play their a few times,but my win/loss ratio is nt great.

fruice

03/01/2010, 5:27 PM

Just a quick lads is this the worst season so far that ye have been involved in due to the bad weather?

littleman

03/01/2010, 6:37 PM

no back in 93/94 i went 19 weeks serving a 2 match ban,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

junglegym

04/01/2010, 12:09 AM

In answerin your excellent question Junglegym im probablly goin to put myself in line for some knocks but I dont mind,

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No one in their right mind would question that Resume Littleman.

Whilst speaking about the Cross I see the fixture secretary has given our annual trip to the best pitch in the league next week. Hope we catch them cold ;)

Now would be a nice time to post that 3rd round AOH. cup draw Weeman.

Shilts

04/01/2010, 4:23 PM

No one in their right mind would question that Resume Littleman.

Whilst speaking about the Cross I see the fixture secretary has given our annual trip to the best pitch in the league next week. Hope we catch them cold ;)

Now would be a nice time to post that 3rd round AOH. cup draw Weeman.

Everybody will be cold this weekend
Just checked the forecast for fri and sat in Cork:
Highs of 0degs and lows of -5degs.
Brrr!
I can't see many games being played.

the owl

04/01/2010, 4:37 PM

Aright boyz. Chico, i see we have ye in the league Sat, at yer place, although i cant really see it going ahead. What ya reckon ??. Our game against Mayfield was called off and its even hard to train these days. Id say get ready for some summer soccer lads !!

olachico

04/01/2010, 9:00 PM

Howdy the owl - yeah we keep getting scheduled for home games by the AUL - the undersoil heating is giving trouble out in Monard though - horse start paying the bills will you!!! The pitch was ok on Saturday last week but still dangerous none the less! We will try to play it if we can but if the weather stays like this i dont know

olachico

04/01/2010, 9:01 PM

On the subject of Turners Cross - never played there or managed a team there - various semi final appearances in cups but never that elusive final - even though Hibs had a reasonably good record there in the mid- 90s

Horse24

05/01/2010, 12:11 PM

Happy New Year to you all, and may your seasons be successful.......less successful than ours, but successful!!

On the honours question, I have a league winners medal from Schoolboys,AUL, Niteowls & Astro Leagues......four different leagues!! Just a good shave and Im trying for the Ladies league!!

On the Cross, been there once as asst manager/waterboy etc for Blackstone and we won with an 89th minute winner, so 100%.

Do you think the Fix Sec deliberately avoids fixing home fixtures for dodgy pitches over the winter months, or is it a set formula for fixtures in general ie, the pitch isnt taken into consideration?

Mr Owl, we will probably look to leave the ref call it unless it gets really bad. Should be a decent game.

Anyone read the West Cork soccer book yet? id say it would be excellent.

super_mario

05/01/2010, 5:56 PM

the ghost

06/01/2010, 1:02 AM

alright lads ive bein threatenin to join ye for awhile so i finally did, go to alot of aul matches so lookin forward to given my opinion

the ghost

06/01/2010, 1:05 AM

alright lads bein threatening to join this for awhile go to alot of aul matches so lookin forward to given my opinion

Innishvilla

06/01/2010, 7:58 AM

alright lads ive bein threatenin to join ye for awhile so i finally did, go to alot of aul matches so lookin forward to given my opinion

Welcome Ghost... The more the merrier on this thread. Have you a team you specifically follow?

Southsider

06/01/2010, 9:02 PM

Littleman ye cant be to happy about losing hala?? But one thing for sure i thaought we would win the league before... Might as well give us our medals now hahah

Only joking people but glad to have him back he is a very good footballer
Thats a shock. Didnt see him yet this year but heard he took going up to Premier like a duck to water. Weeman is not a happy bunny but thats football. He was with ye a handy few years i remember him about 4 years ago against us (Ballyphehane),he did ok that day even tho we beat ye 5-0 in Crossbarry :p. But you cant beat playing with your buddies so that could be the reason for joining back im guessing.

timmypav

06/01/2010, 10:16 PM

Littleman ye cant be to happy about losing hala?? But one thing for sure i thaought we would win the league before... Might as well give us our medals now hahah

Only joking people but glad to have him back he is a very good footballer
Jesus Mario! ye were strong enough as it was. Great player to get back though. http://foot.ie/forums/../inc/img/icons/foot.ie.gif

the ghost

06/01/2010, 11:42 PM

thanks Inish, no not with any club just go to alot of games, all leagues any place, any time :) just on yer latest topic with this player Hala' AKA "red boots" i went to a few of Gratten games after seeing Littlemans post earlier in the year sayin he had unearthed a gem!! from wat ive seen and i shoot from the hip always as i tell it like i c! i dont think littleman will be too bothered loosin him?? maybe he was used to bein a big fish in a small pond for so long with Bhohs didnt suit him bein with Gratten with some of the serious players they have, i could be wrong here lads dont know the bloke but would be interesting to here from Littleman, i dont want to offend anyone here lads as i aint gifted with a ball myself but theres a serious difference between Premier and D1A skill, fitness, attitude (knocking on fellas doors Sun mourning) so Mario i wouldnt be too cocky and getting carried away!! opinions welcome