Cork AUL 2009/10

[bogwarrior]

I think if insults get flung around and things get personal then this is the time to stop naming names. These people are in a public position and have put themselves there so unless things do get personal I think there should be no problem in naming names.

I think i was a little naieve before when calling for elected officers. There is much more to it than that as was pointed out. These are voluntary positions and we must be grateful to these people for organising our leagues. Without them we'd be lost.

On the EGM matter. Unless the current situation is solved within the next week there will be no other choice but to call one. There has to be transparency on this matter. We need to know what brought about this standoff and who is at fault so as we can make sure it never happens again. As i said earlier, those at fault, whoever they may be on either side need to be held accountable. That's my bit said!

A wonderful touch from our neighbours in innishvilla for naming the pitch:ball:.

[Horse24]

Will the referees get their invitation to the AUL Awards on Wednesday night???????????

[bluey]

derek delea has gone no where at all lads he is stayin in the island. back training last night with us. seen the quality brought into club this season and couldn miss the opportunity of really challenging for league medal with his home club

[junglegym]

derek delea has gone no where at all lads he is stayin in the island. back training last night with us. seen the quality brought into club this season and couldn miss the opportunity of really challenging for league medal with his home club

Thats good to hear Bluey, Derek is a class player and no doubt will have a great influence on the young players coming through.
My sources wouldn't have been far out when I posted about his possible move to avondale but obviously now he has decided to stay in the island it's a great bonus for ye .

[Southsider]

Good point about us not mentioning names. We do need to be careful.

Does anyone know how to call an EGM?

Where are Paul O Mahony & Derek Delea gone?

Any news on AUL manager?
Paul is with Everton Seniors.

[olachico]

I'm just wondering why its ok for youths matches to go ahead next week with FAI - non branch referees but we arent allowed to play friendlies - think it needs to be pointed out that we probably ARE allowed play friendlies but just referee the games ourselves

[shetland]

i think your probably right there olachio. but whos to know maybe it might be sorted by then fingers crossed,.

[ballsac7]

i think your probably right there olachio. but whos to know maybe it might be sorted by then fingers crossed,.

MSL teams allowed to play friendlies but must use a club official or non branch referee to officiate

[olachico]

MSL teams allowed to play friendlies but must use a club official or non branch referee to officiate

As i thought - i also think AUL clubs would probably be allowed but people are afraid after what was written on corkaul.com about SANCTIONS :eek:

[Shilts]

Also as I've my rant hat on - what about last years Golden Boot?
At the end of the season Derek McCarthy had won the Golden Boot with his goals in the Premier Division (only 17 games available to him due to the teams dropping out).
Then the Premier A went to a 3 way playoff - and a Knockavilla player got a few more goals in these extra games (18 league + 2 playoff) to top Derek's tally. The AUL in their wisdom have awarded the Golden Boot to the Knockavilla player (sorry, I dont know his name).
Derek McCarthy bust his ass for the Cork AUL team last year and this is how he's treated.
(If I was in Derek's position I know what I'd tell them when the Cork AUL team come calling this year!!!)
Once again the award for fairness goes to the Cork AUL.
Should we even bother ringing in the scorers this year?



My mistake re the golden boot - I think it was one of the playoff teams players, Kanturk maybe? who will be awarded the golden boot.
In all fairness this is crazy. Playoff goals shouldn't count.
Anyway 20 Premier goals are much harder to get than 20 Premier A goals. No account is taken of this.
In my opinion there should be a golden boot for each league - but that might cost too much for the AUL :eek:
The AUL is trying to spread out the glory at the expense of doing the right thing.

[olachico]

Too get away from the referees saga for a bit - Ye charge 10 euro for script littleman?? How do ye justify that in this day and age???

Are you ignoring me littleman;) :D

[cechmate]

:) just got a call from a very good sourse lads

there seems to be a breakthrough we,ll be back playing ball

very shortly

Trust me

[timmypav]

Hopefully that is the case bud.:rolleyes:

[littleman]

Sorry Olli but I honestly dont know if Im to take ya seriously sometimes.:rolleyes:

My club provides an all weather training surface,fully lit for training twice a week or more if they want for the A an B squads,or the pitch if they choose to train there.Brand new dressing rooms with showers to be used when ever they need them.The best of match gear and training equipment.

How many clubs do you know of that provide so much an ask for so little,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the price of 2 pints dependin on where ya drink.:confused:



Cezc I really hope your right mate:o

[olachico]

Sorry Olli but I honestly dont know if Im to take ya seriously sometimes.:rolleyes:

My club provides an all weather training surface,fully lit for training twice a week or more if they want for the A an B squads,or the pitch if they choose to train there.Brand new dressing rooms with showers to be used when ever they need them.The best of match gear and training equipment.

How many clubs do you know of that provide so much an ask for so little,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the price of 2 pints dependin on where ya drink.:confused:


Cezc I really hope your right mate:o

Take me seriously?? Is that some sort of barbed insult? So the 10 euro for the match also includes the training for the week - thats fine then - makes sense - thats all i was asking

[bogwarrior]

Any official word on the referee situation?

€10 a week?!!:eek:

That's one twentieth of the dole!! 3 pints of fosters!!

[olachico]

Yeah i was thinking that 10 euro was a lot per game but if it includes training its not so bad - but sure who can take me serious anyway?? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Billynomates]

According to the echo there seems to be no end in the strike and the games at the weekend are in jeporady. The proposal was not accepted so the strike continues.

[olachico]

Very disappointed with what was written on the AUL website to be honest - at least the MSL have clarified that they can play friendlies if the use club officials - whereas the AUL website just says no friendlies

[pacman]

I heard things have been sorted and we're good to go at the weekend

[Doug89]

Hello lads,

Haven't been on this for a while, good to see healthy debate regarding ref situation.
Heard today that, after last nights meeting, the end may be in site. A proposal put to the refs has been accepted but must be looked at by the FAI before it can be agreed
and an end put to the current situation..... fingers crossed.
We (Grangevale) are looking forward to to the challenge of AUL 1, but, to be honest,
it is going to be extremely tough... 26 league games with some very strong sides.
Pre-season has been ok for us, we have held onto all of last years squad and have added 2 new signings but with hols, injuries and the GAA still going it's difficult to guage
how prepared we really are... Hope there are no casualties of the strike, i.e. City Challenge/County/Corinthians Cups, that would be a shame as these are cups that teams from all divisions look forward to and can have a good go at...
Best of luck to ye all

Doug89

[bellavistaman]

i heard its looking good now lads, i was told the games the weekend are going ahead

[Parkboy]

Hey Lads,
Just back from a week in the sun.Well was actually back on Saturday night just in time for our first league game of the season or so i thought.
Couldnt believe when i heard what was going on.Hopefully things will be sorted soon because with the evenings starting to close in there will be a huge back log of games come next May.
If games go ahead next weekend will it be the original games that were supposed to be played last week?

[pacman]

Hey Lads,
Just back from a week in the sun.Well was actually back on Saturday night just in time for our first league game of the season or so i thought.
Couldnt believe when i heard what was going on.Hopefully things will be sorted soon because with the evenings starting to close in there will be a huge back log of games come next May.
If games go ahead next weekend will it be the original games that were supposed to be played last week?
Ya thats what i heard. last weeks fixtures will be played this weekend

[littleman]

the strike is off ok but theirs nothin definate yet as to wether any games will go ahead this weekend.I was told only Msl an Youths/kids an the Aul will syart next week.If theirs fixtures on the paper tomrrow then no games this weekend.

[bluey]

heard earlier from source in aul that strike will be off on thursday night. wont be any games in aul this weekend as it will be to late to publish fixtures. so sat week before all starts off

[Horse24]

Yep Strike is over effective today. Schoolboy games on at the weekend anyway

[littleman]

Far from me to cast aspertions on your charcter Olli,but it dose begger the question,how do you exactly expect clubs to survive on a weekly basis with out so called script.

Sponsorship,,,,,,that my friend is an added bonus that all clubs get a little pick up from,the mainstay of each club is script along with a weekly ticket draw,views would be appriciated,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Radiostar]

I think fund raising is always a difficult one for most clubs, I would also be interested to know what clubs do to raise money besides the weekly script from players, might help my own club.

[olachico]

Far from me to cast aspertions on your charcter Olli,but it dose begger the question,how do you exactly expect clubs to survive on a weekly basis with out so called script.

Sponsorship,,,,,,that my friend is an added bonus that all clubs get a little pick up from,the mainstay of each club is script along with a weekly ticket draw,views would be appriciated,,,,,,,,,,,,

Littleman I believe my question was a fair one so get down off the high horse! I was unaware that ye had an astroturf facility in Grattan therefore i was working off the idea that ye were training twice a week somewhere else normally costing 5 euro per session plus 10 euro for script which would be 20 euro a week which with a lot of people currently unemployed would be a lot!!

Therefore that was the reason for the question - can you take me seriously now?

[Shilts]

I think fund raising is always a difficult one for most clubs, I would also be interested to know what clubs do to raise money besides the weekly script from players, might help my own club.

A lot of small clubs take part in the College Corinthians superdraw.
I don't know the exact details but it works something like this:
CCAFC organise the draw - cars, holidays etc.
Any club can take part and sell tickets (usually €20 - €30) and keep half of what they collect.
The beauty of this type of situation for a small club is that there is very little organistaion involved - collect tickets, sell tickets, bank half of money collected. A lot of small clubs have raised money in this manner in the past.
I don't know if there is any similar type of draw to this one in the cork area.

[bellavistaman]

whats the story with weekend fixtures lads??

[bluey]

from what i know bella, no aul fixtures. refs are off strike but disagreement was with the aul and heard that some agreement needs to be signed tomorrow night at aul meeting. will be to late to publish fixtures for weekend then.

[bellavistaman]

cheers for the update hopefully we'll have games the weekend but not looking good so from what you said, cheers bluey

[shetland]

no au l games this weekend definately .to late to organise is what i heard.

[Parkboy]

A lot of small clubs take part in the College Corinthians superdraw.
I don't know the exact details but it works something like this:
CCAFC organise the draw - cars, holidays etc.
Any club can take part and sell tickets (usually €20 - €30) and keep half of what they collect.
The beauty of this type of situation for a small club is that there is very little organistaion involved - collect tickets, sell tickets, bank half of money collected. A lot of small clubs have raised money in this manner in the past.
I don't know if there is any similar type of draw to this one in the cork area.
We take part in that draw every year and we have benefited hugely from it.Every player and member do very well in trying to sell these and we get to keep €15 from every ticket.
Just in response to the issue of money for training/games. We train every Tuesday and Thursday on our astroturf and each player pays €2 for each night.Every player pays €5 for home games and dont pay for away games.
So each week will cost no more than €9 for each player.We get to train/play on top class astroturf.Have three top class pitches and have superb shower facilities and have all our gear washed and cleaned for us.
No complains from anyone here.

[Horse24]

Ours is Tuesday/Thursday in Blarney €3.

€3 for home games, nothing for away games.

Each player is also asked to take 5 x €1.50 lotto tickets, which we encourage to spread around the family rather than pay all the money yourself.

[pacman]

Offically no games this weekend although strike is resolved.
Season starting on Sep 5th.

[bluey]

gave news that derek was stayin last week which was 100% true, but can tell you now derek has changed his mind again and is joining avondale for the season, junglejym you sources where right all right. think played game with them monday scored 2 decided to change mind again!!! it happens i suppose.

[olachico]

Anyone know where Jason Keegan went in the end? Did he stay out with Casement even though Minty was no longer in charge??

[littleman]

Keegan : He stayed with Casement.
Delea : Best of luck to him at the Dale.

[olachico]

Just out of a matter of interest - ( the AUL managers job being readvertised) how many of last years AUL winning Panel have left the AUL?? Keegan, Delea , M Forde, Paul O Mahony .... feel free to add to the list

[littleman]

GK Pa from Kinsale the keeper,,,,,,,,,????

CH Shinkwin,,,,,,,,,,is with the Gratts
CH Brian Sull,,,,,,,,,,,is with the Gratts
RB Babs(Anthony Peelo),,,,,,,,is with Blarney St
LB Keegan,,,,,,,,,,is with Csements Msl

RM Keith Kelleher,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,is with Leeds Msl
CM Betts,,,,,,,,is with Blarney St
CM Delea,,,,,,,,is with Avondale Msl
LM Varian ,,,,,,,,,is with Everton Msl

F Paul O'Mahony ,,,,,,,,,,,,is with Evertons Msl
F Derek Mcarthy,,,,,,,,is with Kinsale

Subs
Steve "Cherry" Donovan ,,,,,,is with Kinsale
Shan O'Neill,,,,,,,,,,,,, is with Wilton
Graham Keane,,,,,,,,,,,,,, player/manager with Cahir Park TSDL.
Bevan,,,,,,,,,,, is with Blackstone Rovers
Gary the 2nd choice keeper,,,,,,,,,,is with Grangevale
Figo............ is with the Gratts
John Paul Thompson,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, is with Blarney Street
Cans,,,,,,,,,,, is with the Gratts

[olachico]

Keith Kelleher is still with Leeds in the Premier A as far as I'm aware - though I'm not 100% certain

Was Derek Varian on the panel at all?????

[bluey]

life for graham keane up in tdsl hasn started very well, 1pt out of 9 up to their game tonight. def best of luck to derek in msl hopes it goes well for him they, say there a few managers in aul happy, LITTLEMAN???

[littleman]

Please accept my apoligies for the miss spelling on that last post,walking and txting isnt the easiest thing to do.

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" Being honest both Grattan managers are very happy with the squad we have assembled.A lot of clubs seem to be struggling to get a decent bunch together.We have bascially had a look at areas we needed to improve in, and brought players in to add competition for those places."

Olli,look at the team line up again,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,slowly.

Graham Keane had nothing to lose by having a go at Cahir Park.He did all his coaching badges while he was at Preston so its not as if he dosent have the right credentials.Its a tough league to be in all the same and I hope he turns it around.If not an he decides to just go back playing then I'll be the first to give him a ring.

[olachico]

Olli,look at the team line up again,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,slowly.



Yeah just saw that there now - automatically thought he wasnt there when he wasnt playing upfront

So Keegan aside and lets say Keith Kelleher has gone to the MSL too it looks like from an attacking point of view the AUL panel is seriously weakened - anyone new look like would be able to fill the boots of those players

[littleman]

Thats a hard question to answer Olli.The quality is their alright.But has a perspective manager the eye to uncover it.

[olachico]

Thats a hard question to answer Olli.The quality is their alright.But has a perspective manager the eye to uncover it.

I agree with you there - but I'm just asking if there is anyone that we on this site think could be added to the panel! I think Knockavilla have a few players who could make the step up (dont know their names sorry!!)

[kingcorner]

It's sad to see derek go but we feel we have a good enough squad to be able to compete this season, good luck to derek he has been a great servent for leeside.