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seanfhear
24/01/2009, 8:47 AM
Well if Fergie has has much patience with Gibson as he did with the Fletch he'll be given every possible opportunity to prove himself. Fletcher to me and many others looked absolutely brutal for the first couple of yrs at United but has proven to be a very useful squad player in the last couple. He has also soared as a vital component in the Scottish national side so hopefully Gibson can do something similar, he has it all to prove though.
If Daron Gibson does get as much as a run at it as Fletcher then he will have been given a good run for his money and yes Fletcher has become one of the main strengths in the scottish team in recent years.

paul_oshea
24/01/2009, 4:21 PM
mis heard or mis read?

paul_oshea
24/01/2009, 4:24 PM
not even on the bench today :(

thought that was a bit harsh.

Closed Account
24/01/2009, 5:03 PM
mis heard or mis read?

Probably the only fit manchester united player 1st team player not in the squad today. Although i do think we over analyse players on this site. Were we for example focus on Ronaldo for a game as if we were irish, the way gibsons performance was analysed on tuesday. we'd all spot plenty me mistakes he makes etc.

rambler14
24/01/2009, 7:37 PM
Left out of the squad which really surprised me! The 3 fresh injuries achieved today to Fabio, Ronaldo and Welbeck should mean more action for Darron Gibson though.

NeilMcD
24/01/2009, 7:56 PM
mis heard or mis read?

misheard.

rambler14
15/02/2009, 3:34 PM
Starts centre-mid vs Derby today!

livehead1
15/02/2009, 3:38 PM
I think it is fair to say that if he doesn't make a career for himself at Man Utd it won't be for the lack of chances Ferguson has given him.

The Fly
15/02/2009, 4:14 PM
This is live on ITV 1 right now. Nearing half-time.

Dunny
15/02/2009, 4:15 PM
Just scored.

rambler14
15/02/2009, 4:15 PM
Just Scored!

rambler14
15/02/2009, 4:16 PM
SNAP!!!!:D

Well Done Gibbo!

The Fly
15/02/2009, 4:16 PM
Gibson just scores. Edge of the box shot from a deflection off a ronaldo freekick.
Well done Darron!

tricky_colour
15/02/2009, 4:16 PM
Just scored! (slow connection ;))

Carrigaline
15/02/2009, 4:24 PM
Took his chance well. Derby have been poor though.

eirebhoy
15/02/2009, 4:25 PM
I think it is fair to say that if he doesn't make a career for himself at Man Utd it won't be for the lack of chances Ferguson has given him.
And he's been taking those chances recently. He's getting better every time he plays. Really good game so far.

The Fly
15/02/2009, 4:33 PM
He's had an impressive first-half so far. He had a couple of chances and took his goal very well. Looks comfortable and assured.

Good news for us!

Second-half about to begin.....hopefully more to come from young Darron.

SwanVsDalton
15/02/2009, 4:34 PM
He's pinged some great passes around, very impressed with his vision.

The Fly
15/02/2009, 4:50 PM
Second half..............he's continuing to play well. :D

Highlight thus far - a long range, perfectly executed cross-field pass to Giggs. Impressive!

The Fly
15/02/2009, 5:20 PM
He just got the man of the match award.
Jim Beglin says he hopes Trap is watching - "Gibson is just the kind of player we need." Sneaky!

Have to say..............assuming that Ireland returns(bear with me), a centre midfield of him and Gibson looks a mouthwatering prospect.

rambler14
15/02/2009, 5:23 PM
He just got the man of the match award.
Jim Beglin says he hopes Trap is watching - "Gibson is just the kind of player we need." Sneaky!

Man of the Match and deservedly so!

co. down green
15/02/2009, 5:30 PM
Great, solid display by Gibson today.

Looked comfortable on the ball and a very assured central midfield performance.

Worth remembering that he's only 21

Crosby87
15/02/2009, 6:24 PM
The goal made me laugh, right place, right time. Reminded me of how little kids just kick it forward.

tommy_c12000
15/02/2009, 7:10 PM
Delighted for the guy. With his Wembly appearance on 1st March, another good display will give Trap much food for thought

Longfordian
15/02/2009, 7:56 PM
Fergie had words of praise for him recently, he made a point of mentioning how well he's progressing and he was excellent today, he used the ball very impressively and took his goal well. If he could translate that sort of form to the national team he'd be an excellent option. He should play in the Carling Cup final as well as mentioned which will be further valuable experience for him.

Splurge
15/02/2009, 8:02 PM
Excellent display today, really looks a lot more comfortable playing in the middle rather than wide, like someone earlier said, if him and Ireland were to get it going we could have two top class central mid's, a lot of if's there of course!

The Fly
15/02/2009, 9:23 PM
A very impressive and encouraging performance for young Gibson today. He was very assured, calm and comfortable on the ball. He had a couple of chances at goal in the first half and took his goal well. It is, in my opinion, just obvious that he has ability, and I suppose by extension the potential to make it at United. His style of play is not dissimiliar to Carrick. To me he is like a cross between Carrick and Lampard. He has a strong range of passing - with both feet, has an eye for goal(especially from long range) and his positional sense is of a high calibre. Crucially, aside from Ferguson obviously rating him, he does add a physical presence which will probably bode well for him, given that United are lacking in this department in midfield at present. The only downside is that he is a bit one-paced.

Some of his long range passing and vision today was superb and he more than deserved his MOTM award. We certainly have a player here!

As I have said before, and I suppose there is a certain irony here - given it's current state, that centre midfield is the area of our team where I have most optimism for the future. If Ireland does come back, a midfield made up of him, Gibson and McCarthy in the future is certainly something to look forward to. Add to that the possible admission of Barry Maguire and the emergence of Garvan and O'Toole, and we will have, I believe, a quite exceptional midfield, made up of good, natural, technically gifted footballers.

cheifo
15/02/2009, 11:03 PM
Great to see Darron doing well.I am a big fan of Garvan and hopeful about O Tolles potential.Having said that, Chris McCann seems to be the lad who is making the biggest impact after Gibson.

seanfhear
16/02/2009, 7:17 AM
Well played Daron Gibson. He is one of many talented young midfielders that we have which makes me optimistic for the present and the future.

tetsujin1979
16/02/2009, 8:56 AM
Gibson's goal: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SW9V9MEU

Stuttgart88
16/02/2009, 10:27 AM
Guardian today gave Giggs MOTM but gave "an honourable mention to Gibson, the young Northern Ireland International". God, if only they knew the hornet's nest that could open up...:)

DeLorean
16/02/2009, 11:01 AM
Guardian today gave Giggs MOTM but gave "an honourable mention to Gibson, the young Northern Ireland International". God, if only they knew the hornet's nest that could open up...:)

Giggs was undoubtedly MOTM imo. He was head and shoulders above everybody. Gibson was better than I've seen so far but nowhere near deserving of the praise he's receiving here. I find it strange that he gets so much praise for putting in a solid performance against a Championship side, in a match where his team are in cruise control from start to finish yet when the likes of Garvan or whoever do this week in week out they are still considered completely unproven. Still though credit where it's due it was a decent enough showing for him.

gspain
16/02/2009, 11:27 AM
Giggs was undoubtedly MOTM imo. He was head and shoulders above everybody. Gibson was better than I've seen so far but nowhere near deserving of the praise he's receiving here. I find it strange that he gets so much praise for putting in a solid performance against a Championship side, in a match where his team are in cruise control from start to finish yet when the likes of Garvan or whoever do this week in week out they are still considered completely unproven. Still though credit where it's due it was a decent enough showing for him.

Gibson is doing it for Man Utd albeit only occasionally. Garvan is doing it for Ipswich. There is a big difference. Alex Ferguson saying nice things also carries more weight than Jim Magilton.

I've high hopes for both players. Garvan needs to play at a higher level. I actually think he'll be a better player at a higher level too. Gibson needs more games too.

Dodge
16/02/2009, 11:33 AM
Gibson's playing at the same level when you consider he's only played once in the premier. he's a semi regular in Cup competitions but mostly against lower league opposition

DeLorean
16/02/2009, 11:37 AM
Gibson is doing it for Man Utd albeit only occasionally. Garvan is doing it for Ipswich. There is a big difference. Alex Ferguson saying nice things also carries more weight than Jim Magilton.

Outside of training Gibson isn't playing at a higher level that Garvan at all. 3 games v Championship strugglers Derby in the past 2 months is hardly evidence that he can "do it" at Man Utd's real level. I agree that Fergie's comments would hold more weight than Magilton's but it's hardly gospel, he did sign Liam Miller after all so things don't always pan out as he expects either.

Wolfie
16/02/2009, 12:11 PM
Guardian today gave Giggs MOTM but gave "an honourable mention to Gibson, the young Northern Ireland International". God, if only they knew the hornet's nest that could open up...:)

A visit from Ealing Green is surely due......................

EalingGreen
16/02/2009, 5:06 PM
A visit from Ealing Green is surely due......................
Happy to oblige and point out that it would take three or four injuries (at least) for young Mr. Gibson to get a place in the centre of NI's midfield, were he ours.

You're welcome to him*. ;)


* - And Alex Bruce, for that matter. :p

Brendan 82
16/02/2009, 5:51 PM
Happy to oblige and point out that it would take three or four injuries (at least) for young Mr. Gibson to get a place in the centre of NI's midfield, were he ours.

You're welcome to him*. ;)


I will re-post this exactly one year from today. You will cry

eirebhoy
16/02/2009, 7:03 PM
Gibson's playing at the same level when you consider he's only played once in the premier. he's a semi regular in Cup competitions but mostly against lower league opposition
I don't really think it's comparable though. A player may dominate games against SPL opposition for Hearts yet look out of his depth at Celtic for example against the same opposition.

dr_peepee
16/02/2009, 7:15 PM
Happy to oblige and point out that it would take three or four injuries (at least) for young Mr. Gibson to get a place in the centre of NI's midfield, were he ours.

You're welcome to him*. ;)


* - And Alex Bruce, for that matter. :p

Keep yer mits off St. Ledger too!!

Razors left peg
16/02/2009, 7:22 PM
Happy to oblige and point out that it would take three or four injuries (at least) for young Mr. Gibson to get a place in the centre of NI's midfield, were he ours.

You're welcome to him*. ;)


* - And Alex Bruce, for that matter. :p

not even ahead of Grant McCann???:)

DeLorean
16/02/2009, 7:23 PM
I don't really think it's comparable though. A player may dominate games against SPL opposition for Hearts yet look out of his depth at Celtic for example against the same opposition.

I know what you mean but I still think that Gibson has achieved very little so far, even compared to the likes of Garvan. Just because he's on the books of a big club doesn't mean he'll turn out better than some of the other players that are missing out at present. I can only go by what I've seen so far (taking level of competition into consideration) and Gibson has done ok in the 2 most recent games I've seen him. United have scored 8 goals in these 2 games against absolutely shocking oppostition in Derby. I'm sorry but if he looked out of his depth in either of these games I'd be seriously worried, he didn't but I'm still not convinced. Hopefully he'll start the Carling Cup Final, that should lead to a lot more realistic assessment.

eirebhoy
16/02/2009, 7:46 PM
United have scored 8 goals in these 2 games against absolutely shocking oppostition in Derby. I'm sorry but if he looked out of his depth in either of these games I'd be seriously worried, he didn't but I'm still not convinced.
It's not hard to look out of your depth playing alongside Ronaldo, Giggs, Anderson and Scholes who he has played with in those 2 games though.

Playing well in central midfield of a decent Man Utd team against division 1 team
vs
Playing well in a championship team vs Man Utd

I'd take a lot more encouragement out of the first one. Kris Commons looked brilliant in 2 games against Utd. But could he play in the Man Utd team? No chance.

Watching a player play in a world class team, alongside world class players, will give you the best idea of what level he's at. That goes for a central midfielder more than any player I think.

kingdomkerry
16/02/2009, 10:21 PM
He's a carbon copy of Carrick IMO but the Derry man will be better.

ifk101
17/02/2009, 5:57 AM
Happy to oblige and point out that it would take three or four injuries (at least) for young Mr. Gibson to get a place in the centre of NI's midfield, were he ours.

You'd probably have a valid point if it wasn't such a struggle to name one NI midfielder let alone 3/4. But then again if they were any good they'd be looking to play for Ireland and not NI.


You're welcome to him*.

* - And Alex Bruce, for that matter. :p

What's yours is ours but not vice versa ;)

Hibernian
17/02/2009, 1:08 PM
We have to remember one thing he is only 21 years old.

he at possibly the best club in the world at the moment and the midfield selection that United have is there strongest that I can remember in terms of strength in depth.

I am still not fully convinced that Gibson is United material but its encouraging that he is getting mom in these games all the same ahead of players like Ronaldo, Evra, Giggs and Carrick.

I think he needs more time and he is defo not a winger. Play him in the centre where he is most comfortable and I think Gibson maybe (i say that with slight caution) will become a very solid player for United in the future.

Stuttgart88
17/02/2009, 1:11 PM
Very complimentary feature on Gibson in today's Daily Mail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1147185/In-Keanes-footsteps-Irish-gem-Gibson-Uniteds-latest-hope-tipped-Roys-boots.html

DeLorean
17/02/2009, 1:55 PM
Very complimentary feature on Gibson in today's Daily Mail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1147185/In-Keanes-footsteps-Irish-gem-Gibson-Uniteds-latest-hope-tipped-Roys-boots.html

‘Fergie told me he watched the game against Cyprus and he thought I did well.’

Well Holy God!!:confused:

EalingGreen
17/02/2009, 2:38 PM
You'd probably have a valid point if it wasn't such a struggle to name one NI midfielder let alone 3/4.

Steven Davis (24) and Damien Johnson (30) have approx 300 senior League appearances between them, around 200 of them in the EPL.
During his 150-odd senior League Appearances, Sammy Clingan (25) has worked his way up to being one of the best midfielders in the Championship. His club (Norwich) rejected a bid for him by Fulham at Xmas.
Between them they have 100 caps.

Gibson, who has made (I think) the grand total of 1 start in the EPL, would be competing with Grant McCann and Michael O'Connor for a central midfield place in the event of two of the above being injured/unavailable.


But then again if they were any good they'd be looking to play for Ireland and not NI.

Rugby? Cricket? Hockey? Oh, you mean "Republic of Ireland"...
Ah right, that must be it: Davis, Clingan & Johnson were worried they wouldn't get a place ahead of the likes of Keith Andrews, never mind Darron Gibson.

Reminds me of a conversation on this Board from a couple of years back, where somebody pointed to Paul McShane's striking out and leaving Man Utd for a Championship club as "proof" that he was a better Centre Back than Jonny Evans, who opted to stay and fight for his place at OT.

Still, I bet Evans is glad he didn't elect to play for the ROI, eh, since he'd never get a place in that line-up? In fact, I expect he feels a bit embarrassed at having just signed a piffling five year contract on quadrupled wages for MU, prior to representing them in the Champions League against Inter in the San Siro next Tuesday.

I wonder what position Gibson will be playing that night? ;)

gspain
17/02/2009, 3:17 PM
I wonder what position Gibson will be playing that night? ;)

The same one Johnny will be in the return at Old Trafford. They might even sit beside each other. :D You will get a chance to see Darron at Wembley though.

We also have the hugely talented Steven Reid and somebody else who is player of the season for the richest club in Manchester. Both are badly missed in our central midfield.