Darron Gibson

[geysir]

I'd say Paul's nightmare is over
He has made a fine return to form since that bad injury, literally he has not missed a beat and went straight into derby's first team.
And I think they have won every game since he returned. Apparently fitted in like a glove at RB as well.

[the bear]

you think he should be in our squad?

[geysir]

Nah, I'd go for Andrews Whelan McCarthy and someone else.

But, I like Green's ….. mentality.

[the bear]

fahey has to be ahead of mccarthy, but i would bring both

[back of the net]

If I had to choose gibson or Green then , If Gibson is willing to rot in uniteds reserves until june then I will go for green(provided he gets alot of game time between now and the euros)

Gibson maybe (I did say Maybe) the better player but I'd sooner have someone who is getting consistent game time and making every effort to get it rather than someone who is willing to miss out on first team club football no matter what the reason



As im living in Toronto , I dont get to see much of Green playing for Derby this season , surprisingly Derby County aint that popular here for some reason but going on the forums he seems to be winning Derby fans around.

http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=181&fid=16&sty=2&act=1&mid=2115815049



http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/Green-keen-extend-contract-Rams/story-14323308-detail/story.html

[geysir]

fahey has to be ahead of mccarthy, but i would bring both
I don't see them as competing.
So far, Fahey has been picked (mainly) as one of the wide midfielders in the squad. I'd go along with that for the Finals' squad. Then you have some versatility, adequate cover for any midfield position.

I suspect there's going to be a dogfight between McClean and Hunt.

[SkStu]

i thought the green nightmare was over, no?

and what a harrying nightmare it was.... sorry, harrowing nightmare.

[gastric]

That's really logical thinking.

If Gibson does what you say then he doesn't deserve to be in the departure lounge carrying the team's water next June, let alone playing on the Irish team. He needs to wake up and realize that he's never going to make it at United or any other team for that matter if he doesn't up his work rate and begin to demand the ball in midfield. He is just a passenger at United and has shown scant ambition. If he stays there instead of taking up a loan option, then he has no ambition at club or international football.


Just read your post and yes I am a very logical thinker. Firstly, Gibson has never been a regular at Utd - fact! The only time he has got regular football is when he was on loan. He has still, despite never getting regular football, been a consistent squad member under Trap. As mentioned above I do accept Gibson should move - it's logical. If he doesn't Trap will still probably pick him, as he is loyal to his players, conservative in attitude and there is no obvious competition. Green has been mentioned as a replacement and his last performances for Ireland showed him to be a headless chicken. He would have to be playing out of his skin to replace Gibson in the squad. Using logic again if we had real competition for midfield positions Gibson should miss out, but as we haven't he will be picked.

Emotion has not been or will not be part of Trap's decision making in terms of the squad and your post indicates that somehow he is treacherous in not demanding a move. Such a belief is emotive rather than logical.

[Carrigaline]

I don't see them as competing.
So far, Fahey has been picked (mainly) as one of the wide midfielders in the squad.I am struggling to remember a game where Fahey played right midfield for us.

[Kingdom]

I am struggling to remember a game where Fahey played right midfield for us.
Slovakia away I think?

[Irwin3]

The move to Everton gathers momentum. Hopefully this is the real version as opposed to that ******** about running a contract down. This one is a few lines longer at least, although there remain no quotes in sight.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2085409/Gibsons-good-to-Goodison-1m-Moyes-looks-bolster-depleted-Everton-squad.html?ITO=1490


Everton are closing on a cut-price £1million deal for Manchester United midfielder Darron Gibson.

Manager David Moyes has a limited budget but is desperate to add bodies to his squad which has been decimated by injuries and sees 24-year-old Gibson as a player who can lift his team.

The Republic of Ireland international has struggled to cement a first team place at Old Trafford and was in trouble with manager Sir Alex Ferguson last month when he, Wayne Rooney and Jonny Evans were all fined following a night out on Boxing Day which left them unfit to train properly the following day.

However, Moyes has a knack of getting the best out of players and believes Gibson's best years are yet to come. He will hope to wrap the deal up by the weekend and will then look to sign a striker and centre half.

[Bayern Munchies]

Seems like he's on his way to Everton for 1 million, United have done well...I thought they would have had to pay more then a million to Everton to take him ;)

In all seriousness though, It should be a good move for all involved, and he should get more game time at Everton then he was at Unitedwhich for obvious reasons I hope he does...Just don't see him been an automatic starter there.

About time he made this move though before his carear really started to pass him bye. Goodluck Darron

[SwanVsDalton]

Hope this happens, for his sake as much as anything else. I'd hope he'd be desperate for a move to nail down a place for the Euro's.

[Colbert Report]

Darron Gibson has never impressed me, let's see how he can do at another club. I think he'll be playing in the Championship next season myself.

[AlaskaFox]

I think Darron would be a far better partner to Andrews than Whelan is in Trap's midfield. He's a more capable passer of the ball than Whelan, and his movement isn't all that different from Whelan's when they don't have the ball. Plus we get to shout "shoot" every time he has the ball around the box. Hopefully the Everton move can give him first team chances.

[the bear]

credit where its due , if he moves.

good to see he wants to prove himself

[Murfinator]

Strange business from Everton, they haven't spent money on a player in 2 years and they beak that for Darron Gibson?

While I don't know how another central midfielder can fit in for them, I'd be surprised if there weren't some strings attached from United. They're believed to be interested in all of Felliani, Rodwell and Barkley. Perhaps a first refusal or some such would be part of the deal. If someones departure is inevitable in the summer its obviously good news for Gibson.

Although I think Ferguson would just be glad to be rid of Gibson at this stage, they seem to have a very worn relationship.

[Murfinator]

Darron Gibson has never impressed me, let's see how he can do at another club. I think he'll be playing in the Championship next season myself.

Could see him in the MLS, Australian league or some middle eastern club personally. He'd never hack the demands of the lower leagues, he'll follow the money and take an offer from some developing soccer nation who'd be only too happy to have an ex-Man Utd guy on their promotion list.

Probably not next season, I'd imagine he'd underwhelm at Everton for the reaminder of the year. Get a final chance next season and fail to take it, probably falling out with Moyes in the process. He'll be on his way the next summer.

[Olé Olé]

Could see him in the MLS, Australian league or some middle eastern club personally. He'd never hack the demands of the lower leagues, he'll follow the money and take an offer from some developing soccer nation who'd be only too happy to have an ex-Man Utd guy on their promotion list.

Probably not next season, I'd imagine he'd underwhelm at Everton for the reaminder of the year. Get a final chance next season and fail to take it, probably falling out with Moyes in the process. He'll be on his way the next summer.

Why bother expressing such negativity? Fair enough you're entitled to your opinion, but what are you hoping to achieve describing in detail how you think an Irish footballer's career is going to fall apart? And what's with the digs about him following the money?

Personally, I'd wish Gibson the best. I'd hope Moyes will get the best out of him and he'll go on to add to the 17 caps he already has for Ireland. I hope he's given a chance to prove himself with Everton.

[Predator]

Darron Gibson has not made it this far at Man United without having ability and work ethic.

[Murfinator]

Why bother expressing such negativity? Fair enough you're entitled to your opinion, but what are you hoping to achieve describing in detail how you think an Irish footballer's career is going to fall apart? And what's with the digs about him following the money?

Personally, I'd wish Gibson the best. I'd hope Moyes will get the best out of him and he'll go on to add to the 17 caps he already has for Ireland. I hope he's given a chance to prove himself with Everton.

I could ask you why bother expressing such negativity about another poster (or indeed why me when someone 3 posts above mine raised the prospect of Gibsons imminent career collapse). It's already been said that the lad rejected Sunderland because of their wage offer and was open to letting his Man Utd contract run out so he'd be in a stronger negotiating position even despite the damage it'd do to his Euro 2012 fitness. His run in with Ferguson has since probably meant that he's being thrown out the door rather than him being eager for first team action. Thats the consistent story of this guys character that we've seen for years. Remember when Trap said he should move away for more first team action and he mocked the comment stating that he wanted medals and was above teams like Stoke.

Wish what you want but people with attitudes like Gibson usually don't fulfill their potential.

[Stuttgart88]

Did he say he was above teams like Stoke, or did he just want to push on trying to get into United's team? Just asking...

[Predator]

I could ask you why bother expressing such negativity about another poster (or indeed why me when someone 3 posts above mine raised the prospect of Gibsons imminent career collapse). It's already been said that the lad rejected Sunderland because of their wage offer and was open to letting his Man Utd contract run out so he'd be in a stronger negotiating position even despite the damage it'd do to his Euro 2012 fitness. His run in with Ferguson has since probably meant that he's being thrown out the door rather than him being eager for first team action. Thats the consistent story of this guys character that we've seen for years. Remember when Trap said he should move away for more first team action and he mocked the comment stating that he wanted medals and was above teams like Stoke.

Wish what you want but people with attitudes like Gibson usually don't fulfill their potential.Gibson hardly "mocked the comment". What do you know of his character other than a few media scraps and conjecture? Not much, I'd guess.
His argument is simple: that he'd rather be challenging for a place at a team which expects a higher level than Stoke. And there is no harm in that at all. In fact, it shows a degree of ambition and, perhaps, belief and he's entitled to that at 24 years of age.

[Charlie Darwin]

There were rumours Gibson refused to join Sunderland because of his wage demands, but Ferguson denies this. Plus, had he not been injured himself, he probably would have been sold elsewhere or got more games in the early part of the season with the injuries in United's midfield. Again, it's been rumoured Gibson wants to wait until the end of the season to leave but it's not been substantiated by anything.

[seanfhear]

Gibson needs to be playing football at a high as level as possible and if he could achieve his potential he may have more legs than Whelan and may be in with a chance of partnering Andrews in midfield for us. I hope this move to Everton takes place and I wonder if Darron regrets not going to Sunderland especially now that Martin O Neill is there (mind; how was Darron to know that was the way the cookie would crumble).

[Stuttgart88]

Well, if O'Neill rates him, he can always buy him. I'd prefer to see Meyler have more of a chance.

[Olé Olé]

I could ask you why bother expressing such negativity about another poster (or indeed why me when someone 3 posts above mine raised the prospect of Gibsons imminent career collapse). It's already been said that the lad rejected Sunderland because of their wage offer and was open to letting his Man Utd contract run out so he'd be in a stronger negotiating position even despite the damage it'd do to his Euro 2012 fitness. His run in with Ferguson has since probably meant that he's being thrown out the door rather than him being eager for first team action. Thats the consistent story of this guys character that we've seen for years. Remember when Trap said he should move away for more first team action and he mocked the comment stating that he wanted medals and was above teams like Stoke.

Wish what you want but people with attitudes like Gibson usually don't fulfill their potential.

I picked out your comment because it was so detailed, I struggled to comprehend why someone would attempt to envisage the fall from grace of a young Irish footballer.
Why map out how you felt Gibson's career was going to go on the basis of unsubstantiated hearsay? You seem to base your perception of Gibson's character on some tabloid speculation which is completely unfounded. Anyone could make up the story regarding Gibson simply wanting to see his contract run out. Furthermore, Ferguson has stated Sunderland "messed around" with Gibson and there is also an injury to take into account.

Trap's comment was a tad misguided. He had a similar run-in with Big Sam Allardyce when he doubted Steven Reid could actually maintain a career in football at a high level. Reid has subsequently experienced a great deal of first team action with WBA. Maybe that point is not quite relevant to the Gibson issue, but it shows that Trap is not always the highest authority.

Personally, I wish Gibson the best. There have been enough flashes of brilliance and a strong enough repertoire of skills to provide me with hope that he will maintain a career as a central midfielder in the premiership for a long time to come.

[Uncle_Joe]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2016564/Steve-Bruce-set-clear-air-talks-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-Darron-Gibson-spat.html

I (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2016564/Steve-Bruce-set-clear-air-talks-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-Darron-Gibson-spat.html) cant find the original piece but its mentioned here. Sunderland made Gibson an offer and then changed it. If I was given an offer of employment and then was told that the pay wouldn't actually be what was in the original offer I don't think I would be too eager to take it either.

As for the talk of Gibson sitting out his contract, does anyone actually have a quote on this? or is it just more made up tabloid filler.

[Stuttgart88]

SSN saying a move to Everton is imminent. £2.5m.

Lazy git.

[Closed Account]

SSN saying a move to Everton is imminent. £2.5m.

Lazy git.
https://twitter.com/#!/GregOK
(https://twitter.com/#!/GregOK)
Understand Darron Gibson is having medical for EFC. Deal looks imminent. Prob tomorrow.

[liamoo11]

Beest of luck to gibson have to say I really like him and I think if everton can get him a bit more mobile with a tailored fitnes/agility program we will have a proper player on our hand I think. Interestingly Wilson and gibson are the same age and wilson was part of the utd academy but has taken a very different route in football since than gibson and has done great. Gibson as the more attacking part of a midfield 2 with wilson might be a partnership we see sometime.

[geysir]

SSN saying a move to Everton is imminent. £2.5m.

Lazy git.

With this transfer, he doesn't even have to pack his stuff into boxes and move house.

[Metrostars]

I can never understand all the flak Gibson gets. OK so he never set the world alight but there are always signs of what he could be, but he's never been given a good stretch of a run the Man Utd first XI. Also, we don't have many players who can say they have scored in the CL quarter finals and semi finals...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJbzMebE4rw

[Charlie Darwin]

Ollie Holt's now reporting it's a 500k deal with 1.5m add-ons. Either way, it's a bargain for Everton*. Gibson still has the potential to be a top Premier League player.

* Ferguson has a vested interested in maintaining a very good relationship with David Moyes and Everton.

[Eminence Grise]

Deal done, according to RTE. Four and a half year contract, though no mention of salary or transfer fee.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2012/0113/gibsond_everton.html

[Closed Account]

http://d25yla7xp697oa.cloudfront.net/assets/_files/cached/jan_12/590x330/efc__1326449812_gibson-signing.jpg
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2012/01/13/gibson-signs-on

[Charlie Darwin]

So who's gonna be the first to take back their comments about his ambition/hunger/greed?

[Mr A]

Hope it works out for him. Everton have some decent midfielders though so he'll need to start contributing quickly or he could be looking at a lot of bench time again.

[Closed Account]

So who's gonna be the first to take back their comments about his ambition/hunger/greed?
I'll admit I was sucked in a little, (though I did use the words 'if' and 'reserve judgement' to cover me :) ).

So I applaud this move, one of the best clubs he could of left for realistically. Here's hoping to a Phil Neville like renaissance. Coleman, Duffy and Gibson to all be in the first XI by May?

[Charlie Darwin]

Ha, you get a pass Joe because you're always reasonable. I think Gibson will slot in easily in the Everton midfield - like I said a few pages back, he's got the range of passing and scoring threat they've lacked since Arteta left (or, really, since Arteta went off the boil a couple of years ago). I think Duffy will be loaned again this month, hopefully to a Championship club. The disaster would be if Everton couldn't sign another defender and he was left to rot on the bench.

[Philly]

Good move for Gibson. Here's hoping he can prove himself now and play regularly. It'll be interesting to see how he gets on.

[drummerboy]

Best of luck to the lad. I think he will manage to hold down a place with a little bit of luck.

[Predator]

If anyone's interested in Gibson and his character, they can check out his first interview on evertontv.com. They can study his language, his demeanour, body language etc. and then weigh that up against their previous conjecture.

[Murfinator]

Its the biggest chance of his career this, he could go either way depending on how the next few months go for him. Hope I'm wrong about him.


We will try to put pressure on him to become a goalscoring midfielder with his shot. But also with his delivery, he can help us hopefully from set pieces

Interesting line from Moyes on how he sees him. Rather than someone who plays more defensively and deeper that trap likes to play him as.

[Serb]

A great move that will define Darron Gibson as a footballer. He never really got a chance at Manchester United, he was never quite the standard, but there's no shame in that considering they have been consistently in the top two of the Premier League for the entirety of his senior career. He has answered the questions about hunger and greed, now he should have the chance to answer the questions about him on the pitch too.

I hope he turns out to be a solid goal-scoring midfielder for Everton, I'm glad he's getting the chance to prove himself at a decent level.

[Olé Olé]

Its the biggest chance of his career this, he could go either way depending on how the next few months go for him. Hope I'm wrong about him.



Interesting line from Moyes on how he sees him. Rather than someone who plays more defensively and deeper that trap likes to play him as.

I suppose you could play Gibson in a sort of Pirlo-esque deep-lying midfield role with a propensity to make good passes, take set-pieces and late arrivals for goal-scoring opportunities. Arteta played in this role quite a bit but moved to a more advanced and occupied the number 10 shirt. It depends on how Moyes wants to play Fellaini who is quite versatile as the role he plays in the middle. Maybe Cahill's best days are past him.

[Sullivinho]

I can see there is a toughness about him, and I can see there is a hunger, and it is up to him to try and get into the Irish squad for the Euros. It is a big six months for him. We got a really good deal for the Club and it’s a young player who we know we can have here for the next four or five years. It’s up to him to show what he’s about.

The Moyes factor is the biggest plus here imo. The length of contract shows plenty of confidence in the guy too. I'm looking forward to (hopefully) seeing him playing regularly.

[seanfhear]

Ollie Holt's now reporting it's a 500k deal with 1.5m add-ons. Either way, it's a bargain for Everton*. Gibson still has the potential to be a top Premier League player.

* Ferguson has a vested interested in maintaining a very good relationship with David Moyes and Everton.
Is Ferguson "grooming" Moyes as his successor at Utd (will Ferguson get to annoint his sucessor in any case) and whatever could Darrons tranfer have to do with it.

[Closed Account]

Is Ferguson "grooming" Moyes as his successor at Utd (will Ferguson get to annoint his sucessor in any case) and whatever could Darrons tranfer have to do with it.
Think he's softening him up so he can take his Rod-Well.

[seanfhear]

Think he's softening him up so he can take his Rod-Well.Is there some double "entendres" in there. Anyways, nice of Moyes to play along. It is a good opportunity for Darron and I hope it goes well for him.