Darron Gibson

[geysir]

When it comes to all things Manuela, it would appear that every word or gesture inspires a one-track mind construal.
Indeed she is inspirational.

[LFCSixty/Eighty]

Surely a Manuela appreciation thread is in the offing???

[gastric]

Maybe she will replace Trap when he retires. Players will certainly not opt out of the squad if she was in charge!

[Alf Honn]

If you give the benefit of doubt to Trap,
First he says in relation to how 'he appreciated the way in which his senior players did their best to travel for every international game.'
"It is important to have this pride because the manager needs these players,”
Then he says
“There are those in the selection who say: “I stay at home, my son is ill, I stay at home. I don’t need these players. Not Shay, not Duff; these have a fantastic mentality and if they have an injury it is okay."

He is including Gibson along with Shay and Duff, in that when they offer an excuse, it is genuine.
And the Examiner clarified
'It’s important to note here that Trapattoni’s mention of a son being ill was intended as a general example of an excuse for not showing up'



From today's Herald
By Cormac Byrne

Friday November 19 2010

IRELAND manager Giovanni Trapattoni is under increasing pressure after he condemned Darron Gibson for missing the match to look after his sick daughter.
The Manchester United midfielder pulled out of Wednesday night's friendly game with Norway to care for the 18-month-old.
Trap claimed he didn't need players who missed games to look after their sick children, raising eyebrows among all observers.
The outspoken Italian told a press conference that he didn't want players who put family before football.
"There are those [players] in the selection who say 'I stay at home, my son is ill. I stay at home'," he said.
"I don't need these players."
Frayed
When journalists sought clarification on who or what Trapattoni was referring to, an FAI spokesman claimed the Italian was speaking in a general sense and not targeting Gibson.


Trap didn't backtrack on the statement. It was only one of his handlers that offered this lame excuse when queried on it later.

Don't think a player has withdrawn from a squad in the modern era owing to such a serious matter. Trap then uses it as a 'general example' in the same week.

Does anyone really believe that this is a pure coincidence? Offensive and insensitive at the very least.

[Charlie Darwin]

Under "increasing pressure" from whom? You'd think they could at least invent a quote from some hypothetical outraged person to back up their nonsensical story.

[Stuttgart88]

This reminds me of when a friend of mine was offered a drink by his boss's German wife at his company's Christmas drinks party, after he'd already had plenty. "Ah, you're a terrible woman" he said, to which she got in a huff and complained to her husband.

[The Fly]

Interesting.........


http://www.joe.ie/football/premier-league/man-utd-and-ireland-star-to-join-stephen-ireland-at-aston-villa-007245-1


http://www.puntershero.com/2514/aston-villa-want-darron-gibson-on-loan/

[elroy]

The Herald = not a reliable source of information. (thats been VERY kind)

[gastric]

Granted it is just speculation, but this would be a good move for Gibson even if it was just a loan move.


http://astonvilla-views.com/2010/11/19/speculation-villa-chase-darron-gibson-avfc-mufc/

[tommy_c12000]

Many Villa fans unimpressed by the link with Gibson

http://www.villatalk.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=65466

[DeLorean]

Many Villa fans unimpressed by the link with Gibson

Wouldn't blame them. Doubt he'd get in the side anyway. The two young fellas that started against United looked excellent. Stephen Ireland isn't really getting in the side an he's a considerably better player than Gibson, on the evidence so far. I don't think there's any PL club where he'd be certain of his place.

[gastric]

He would probably start off on the bench, but at least he would have a better chance of first team football than at Utd.

[The Fly]

http://www.bournelocal.co.uk/sport/football/i_m_going_nowhere_gibson_1_1673251

[Sullivinho]

http://www.bournelocal.co.uk/sport/football/i_m_going_nowhere_gibson_1_1673251

Due to some background torrent activity, that page took about 20 seconds for me to load. In those moments, I had time to ponder whether the sneak preview headline "I'm going nowhere" was a cry of defiance or sigh of exasperation.

[theworm2345]

Gibson didn't make the squad today in the Carling Cup against West Ham despite it being a largely weakened United side.

[elroy]

Looks like he was better off, 2 down at half time.

[elroy]

Johnny Evans taken off with 20 mins, united 4 down. They have been roasted. Very unlike United.

Just thinking what was the Irish lad at WHam a few years back, we have really big hopes for.........Shaun ??? I think his name was.......whatever happened to him. I recall him been very highly rated by Brian Kerr.

[tetsujin1979]

according to greenscene.me he has a thigh injury

[theworm2345]

Just thinking what was the Irish lad at WHam a few years back, we have really big hopes for.........Shaun ??? I think his name was.......whatever happened to him. I recall him been very highly rated by Brian Kerr.
Are you thinking of Clive Clarke? He had heart problems that caused his retirement from the game.

[gustavo]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Byrne

Playing for Slough Town now

[elroy]

Are you thinking of Clive Clarke? He had heart problems that caused his retirement from the game.

Nope


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Byrne

Playing for Slough Town now

And cheers gustavo, thats the lad. Another one that bite the dust. I distinctly remember Kerr picking him out for big things but unfortunately never materialised.

[dr_peepee]

Yeah... I vaguely remember something on football focus years ago about West Hams youth prouction line, where he was being touted as the solution to Englands left side problem. And Harry had to correct them and say he was Irish.... Think Roddy Collins signed him for Rovers too...

[OwlsFan]

Gibson (injured I assume) didn't play last night thank God although I see O'Shea was involved. Evans was subbed so hopefully most of the goals go down to him.

[shakermaker1982]

O'Shea was woeful, 2 out of 10 bad. I'm starting to think he has forgotten how to pass a ball. He has been shocking all season and Fergie will probably stick with Raphael at RB now

Evans was even worse. 2 years ago he looked a prospect but he'll be on his way if he doesn't buck up his ideas. Gibson was fortunate to not be involved.

[Charlie Darwin]

O'Shea was one of the better players. Switched sides because Fabio was struggling on the left.

[Murfinator]

O'Shea was "ok". Fabio, Bebe and Smalling were poor drawing a lot of scorn from fans. But worst of all was Johnny Evans who was diabolical, his performances lately have most the fans in agreement that his time at United is numbered.
Fergusons substitutions of removing Evans, Bebe and Fabio were probably telling in where he saw the problems were.

[Razors left peg]

Johnny Evans taken off with 20 mins, united 4 down. They have been roasted. Very unlike United.

Just thinking what was the Irish lad at WHam a few years back, we have really big hopes for.........Shaun ??? I think his name was.......whatever happened to him. I recall him been very highly rated by Brian Kerr.

Think it was Shaun Byrne u were thinkin of. Was he captain of one of the underage sides that won the Euros under Kerr??

[Charlie Darwin]

O'Shea was "ok". Fabio, Bebe and Smalling were poor drawing a lot of scorn from fans. But worst of all was Johnny Evans who was diabolical, his performances lately have most the fans in agreement that his time at United is numbered.
Fergusons substitutions of removing Evans, Bebe and Fabio were probably telling in where he saw the problems were.
Evans and Smalling are big lads but they really need to bulk up - Evans particularly. Cole bullied them all night.

[The Fly]

Newcastle and Sunderland set for transfer battle over, Manchester United midfielder, Darron Gibson

http://www.sportingo.com/football/a16972_newcastle-sunderland-set-transfer-battle-over-manchester-united-midfielder

[Charlie Darwin]

Sunderland head the queue for the all-action player
I hope Sunderland's scouts are a bit more thorough than the journalist...

[tommy_c12000]

Ferguson puts Gibson in the shop window tonight with a start against Birmingham

[Colbert Report]

Where do you get the starting line-ups? I only ask because it is playing havoc with my fantasy football team. For example, I made Nani my captain last gameweek and he didn't even play. Thanks.

[tommy_c12000]

Where do you get the starting line-ups? I only ask because it is playing havoc with my fantasy football team. For example, I made Nani my captain last gameweek and he didn't even play. Thanks.

Presume captaincy was passed onto your next biggest value player so cudn't have wreaked too much havoc on your team! Perhaps it's just a weak FPL side??? I only saw it on skysports at 710. You will rarely find the teams being released more than an hour before kick off so you really can't do much considering the transfer deadline is usually at 1130am. On the respective club's website you can get the match day squads in good time but you won't get a definitive selection. Obviously there's a lot of speculation and "experts" who voice their informed opinions but managers are always liable to surprise

[Colbert Report]

Yeah, it was passed over to another player but I would prefer if I could just choose a player that I'll know will play, you know what I mean. Thanks for the advice though, I'll be sure to check out the official websites, not a bad idea.

[elroy]

Played on the right wing, assisted the goal and overall played reasonably well. Certainly not as anonymous as he has been in other performances for united.

[Junior]

Just heard from a mate that he made a complete mess of a relatively simple pass to Berbatov to play him in for a one on one to make it 2-0 not long berfore Birmingham equalised.

A very selective post match performance comment I know but thought Id throw it in there anyway......

[Stuttgart88]

I only saw bits of the game but did see what I presume is the above mentioned incident. It was a 2-on-2. Gibson was on the left and sent in a crisp low ball for Berbatov that was cut out by a well positioned defender. In my opinion if Gibson had played the ball any further forward it would probably have gone too far ahead of Berbatov or too near the keeper. He might have played the ball a fraction earlier but it was from a wide left position, not ideal for a right footer. To call it a "complete mess" is total rubbish. The defender did his job well by reading the situation and positioning himself well. Very McGrath-esque: made it look straightforward.

[Junior]

Fair enough Stutts, didnt see it myself, just passing on a very frustrated Man U supporters take on it. Though he did say it was a 2 on 1 situation. Perhaps if Gibson was two footed, the earlier ball would have been played and no McGrath comparisons would have been made..........playing devils advocate of course! Seasons Greetings and all that!!

[Stuttgart88]

Many happy returns!

I guess someone like Gareth Bale or even Chris Brunt would have picked out a better pass.

As a general comment I think footballers are nearly all too "one footed". I'm pretty sure Gibson used his left though.

[Charlie Darwin]

Let's just say it was an encouraging performance from a player who's been injured for the past 4-6 weeks.

[elroy]

I dont think it was the quality of the pass was the problem, it was how long he dwelled on the ball, if he had played it to Berba alot sooner then alot more may have been made of the chance. Not a catastrophic error by any means though.

[irishfan86]

Played the last half an hour or so on the right side of midfield and had some pretty terrible touches. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt due to his lack of playing time, it's probably affecting his confidence and match sharpness...glad to see him involved the last couple of matches but he'll need to improve to continue being involved.

[Fergie's Son]

He wasn't that bad today and strung together a few nice passes (as well as two particularly crunching tackles) but one instance really displayed a lack of skill/talent/match fitness. Raphael played him down the right wing, Gibson was well pass his man and had a number of options from laying it off to letting the ball go past him and running onto it. Itself he tried to control it and basically hoofed it out of touch. It genuinely seemed harder to do that than the other two options. It was almost like he made an effort to ruin the chance. Not to pick on the lad but it was an atrocious first touch. I was stunned and actually replayed it several times (thanks DVR). Let's hope he continues to get his chances.

[Charlie Darwin]

A winger would have let it go past him but a centre midfielder's first instinct is to try and control it. It wasn't a poor touch because it was a very difficult ball to control but it was the wrong decision to try and take it down. He wasn't great but his touch was generally quite good.

[Fergie's Son]

If he tried to take it down then why didn't he angle himself towards goal? There was nobody near him. Sorry but it was an atrocious effort. I do agree though that overall he played well and I was impressed with one particularly strong tackle on Brunt who was having an excellent game.

[liamoo11]

To be fair to Gibson united were much more of a midfield force for the last half hour when he came on.His tackling and neat passing was pretty good and helped change the flow of the game.He is a centre midfielder not a right winger.Uniteds starting midfield today was given a lesson before Gibson came on by West Brom.People need to be fair to gibson.Yes at this stage he does need to move club but the level of criticism he gets on here is crazy.

[Stuttgart88]

Just to balance things up a bit. At one point he was playing centrally and a short pass was absolutely rifled at him from close range. He controlled it with with ease.

My early opinions about Gibson included thinking he receives the ball very comfortably under pressure. I've seen little since to change that opinion. It's other parts of his game that concern me. I thought he did OK in his last two games.

[Bungle]

I think Darren Gibson has the potential to become a very good player. I think he has good ball control, an eye for a good pass and a very good shot. I think he needs to assert himself in games, but this might come with age. People forget that he plays for one of the biggest clubs in the world (I'm a Liverpool man myself!!). Gibson looks like a lad who lacks a bit of confidence. Fergie obviously sees something in him.

Personally, I think Gibson is more suited to continental football, but I do think he can become a very good premiership and international player in time. I do believe he needs a move to a club that will allow him to flourish and grow away from the goldfish bowl of Old Trafford, where he is always going to be compared against the great players of the past who played in his position there.

[elroy]

Good to see Gibson getting a look in again, the last few months he has barely made an appearance. Thought he did well when he came on. played one fantastic long through ball for Hernandez that was just cut out, if it had came off hernandez was through on goal.

[theworm2345]

Starts tonight against Stoke, just went close with a drive from 30-35 yards.