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richieos
07/12/2008, 11:23 PM
i remember that match, it was about 5 years ago when o'shea was just breaking through, and he moved oshea to LEFT back, this was his first time playing left back, and the reason wasnt that oshea was having a nightmare, it was because silvestre was having a nightmare at leftback

ofjames
08/12/2008, 7:27 PM
i remember that game, van nistelrooy scored an absolute beauty. he's such a legend of a player. john o'shea on the other hand......

cheifo
08/12/2008, 7:53 PM
Gibson looks physically stronger than Miller so if he can continue to improve technical side of his game, hopefully he will not go way the way of Miller who was overhyped after scoring a few goals for Celtic.

Could be argued that McCann is showing the most impressive club form of our midfield options.

John83
08/12/2008, 8:53 PM
i remember that match, it was about 5 years ago when o'shea was just breaking through, and he moved oshea to LEFT back, this was his first time playing left back, and the reason wasnt that oshea was having a nightmare, it was because silvestre was having a nightmare at leftback
I watched that game too, and I recall the opposite. Yakin was tearing through the middle and O'Shea was getting eaten alive.

Longfordian
08/12/2008, 9:42 PM
I see Gibson's been included in the United squad going to Japan for the World Club Championship. He and Danny Welbeck are the only two fringe players included which seems to suggest he's moving up the pecking order a bit.

Fergie's Son
09/12/2008, 4:11 AM
Evidently Ferguson is ruling out a loan move for Gibson in January. That's a good sign.

irishfan86
09/12/2008, 5:51 AM
Evidently Ferguson is ruling out a loan move for Gibson in January. That's a good sign.

To be honest I'd rather see him go on loan or sold to a Championship/lower premiership club.

I don't really see him breaking into their midfield barring a MAJOR injury crisis.

United have: Carrick, Scholes, Fletcher, Anderson

Hargreaves is probably going to miss most of the season, so I'm excluding him.

Even if you look at those 4 players competing for 2 central spots, we've got Giggs who plays there on occasion, O'Shea who has played there in the past.

At the "kid's breaking through" level, there's no guarantee Gibson would be taken over Possebon.

I think he's got the makings of a decent player, but like O'Dea at Celtic, I think he'll have to move on if he wants to progress as a player.

Junior
09/12/2008, 8:16 AM
To be honest I'd rather see him go on loan or sold to a Championship/lower
I think he's got the makings of a decent player, but like O'Dea at Celtic, I think he'll have to move on if he wants to progress as a player.

The difference with the O'Dea situation (in my view) is that Celtics centre half options are not that great and have been found wanting and up until recent weeks both fullback positions have been a weak point as well. Despite this, O'Dea has struggled to get a start.

carloz
10/12/2008, 6:20 PM
Starts tonight against Aalborg. Big chance for him

eirebhoy
10/12/2008, 6:32 PM
Aalborg are a very poor team, definitely the worst team Celtic have ever faced in the CL. He should aim to stand out here. Great to see him get a chance alongside a lot of established Man Utd players.

stiffler
10/12/2008, 6:35 PM
Looking forward to seeing how he gets on tonight.

tommy_c12000
10/12/2008, 7:42 PM
Was tidy enuf in 1st half. Gave away an awful ball for Aalburg's 2nd goal though. I'd prefer to see him playing more centrally

carloz
10/12/2008, 7:58 PM
Took off at half time. Disgraceful treatment by Fergie IMO. Firstly he was picked to play right wing:confused:. He did an ok job but then Fergie decides to haul him off at half time to be replaced by Ji Sung Park. Not going to help the young lads confidence one bit and as a Man Utd fan i think it was a dreadful thing for Fergie to do to a young player trying to break into the team

irishfan86
10/12/2008, 8:56 PM
Well, United's Irish lads didn't acquit themselves well tonight.

Gibson gave the ball away for Aalborg's second goal, and John O'Shea failed to pick up his mark who ended up heading it in.

Don't think Gibson can make it as a winger, although he did hit in some nice crosses that could have led to opportunities had somebody got on the end of them.

Dr. Ogba
11/12/2008, 9:04 AM
Took off at half time. Disgraceful treatment by Fergie IMO. Firstly he was picked to play right wing:confused:. He did an ok job but then Fergie decides to haul him off at half time to be replaced by Ji Sung Park. Not going to help the young lads confidence one bit and as a Man Utd fan i think it was a dreadful thing for Fergie to do to a young player trying to break into the team


was thinking the exact same thing. If someone like Scholes was stuck out on the right wing he wouldn't have covered himself in glory either. there's a touch of the O'Sheas about it in that he doesn't seem to trust him in the pivotal CM role just as he doesn't trust O'Shea in the CB role...

paul_oshea
11/12/2008, 9:30 AM
fletcher has been utillised in different area, oshea has been utilised in different areas, as has brown as did silvestre. Ferguson generally buys in the players he feels will always be the first on the team sheet. THere is nothing to suggest with gibson it will be any different. If gibson wants to stay with united he will need to fit in in different areas just like the others. Fergie is loyal to squad plays as has been proved with fletcher and oshea.

ifk101
11/12/2008, 12:27 PM
Played out of position last night and it showed. Gave the ball away in the lead up to Aalborg's second goal and also then backed away from the attacker that put the cross in.

Noelys Guitar
11/12/2008, 1:58 PM
Played out of position last night and it showed. Gave the ball away in the lead up to Aalborg's second goal and also then backed away from the attacker that put the cross in.

He played a similar cross field ball against Cyprus. Straight to a Cypriot player. Got the weight of the pass wrong.

irishfan86
11/12/2008, 8:01 PM
Gibson . . . was argubly not even good enough to fit into an average Wolves championship midfield.

In fairness, he played as a right winger for Wolves mainly.

Until I see him get a run in any team at centre-mid, I'm going to refrain on judging him.

I just wish the experimental period wasn't with Ireland as seems to be the case.

Irish_Praha
04/01/2009, 4:36 PM
Came on after 56 mins for UTD today in the FA cup.
How is he doing?

kingdomkerry
04/01/2009, 4:44 PM
Scored in 82nd minute. First goal for Man Utd.

tommy_c12000
04/01/2009, 4:45 PM
Nice finish. Still looks lost out on right wing

Closed Account
04/01/2009, 4:46 PM
Tidy finish, didn't panic. Playing right side of midfield, has got in good position. Had one sliced effort.

Link to Goal (http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/1933594/)

Irish_Praha
04/01/2009, 5:41 PM
Tidy finish, didn't panic. Playing right side of midfield, has got in good position. Had one sliced effort.

Link to Goal (http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/1933594/)

Well taken, nice first touch.

tetsujin1979
04/01/2009, 5:53 PM
Nice finish to get it through 2 defenders and the goalkeeper, even that close in.
Showed good instincts to come off the wing with no covering full back on that side, just gambling the ball would come across.

ofjames
07/01/2009, 8:59 PM
He played the full 90 against derby tonight.

It was a poor team performance but i thought he did ok. he played the first 60 mins on the right. He didnt threaten much but kept things simple and managed to put in a couple of dangerous balls

Fergie took off welbeck, scholes and anderson and left gibson on which was good to see. It meant he had 30 mins playing where he is best in the centre.

He was much more effective in the central position in my opinion, particularly when Carrick came on (perhaps this was due a confidence boost due to the knowledge he wasnt going to be subbed).

Fergie commented after that he thought Gibson was one of the better united performers on the night and indicated that he would figure in the second leg. So not a bad night for the lad

eirebhoy
07/01/2009, 10:43 PM
Out of the 5 players that played in central midfield I thought Gibson was best, even if it was only for half an hour. He just seems to me like a player that gets by in games, he doesn't look for the ball too much.

Maroon 7
08/01/2009, 12:16 AM
I only saw the last 20 minutes of the game but he seemed to be getting on the ball a lot anyway. In fact a lot of United's play seemed to be going through him in midfield. He was the one who was knocking balls out to the wide men and feeding them into Tevez and when play broke down they passed it back to Gibson and let him start it up again.

Admitedly for the most part they weren't getting very far but in the short bit of the game I saw he at least was getting involved in the play.

Fergie's Son
08/01/2009, 4:30 AM
He played well. The United team was a mess and didn't deserve a goal. Still, I'm cautiously optimistic about him right now. Well played Mr. Gibson.

irishfan86
08/01/2009, 7:14 AM
Decent performance but you have to take in the opposition. 18th in the Championship.

He performed better than Anderson and Scholes on the day.

There were times when he looked to pass it wide or back instead of hitting a penetrating ball through the middle, and this was a bit irritating.

On the plus side I think he only lost possession once over the course of the game, but he just wasn't positive enough for my liking, especially when they went down a goal.

A move in the right direction though, and playing 90 minutes should do wonders for his confidence.

amaccann
08/01/2009, 7:33 AM
It's still great to see him get his games & slowly chip away at it. I have been hopeful for the lad since hearing of him, but ever since Dunphy basically dismissed his entire career I became doubly hopeful he would make the grade.

Stuttgart88
08/01/2009, 7:41 AM
I only saw last 20 mins too. He was in the middle at that stage and did well enough. At times he was given the ball in tight situations and quickly played an accurate first time pass to feet, showing an awareness of his “out ball”, always a good sign. I thought he could have been more aggressive / assertive in looking for the ball at times - I think he seemed happy for the more senior players to take responsibility. Seems to do the right things for a midfielder (one guy did dance past him in the box late on) and seems to have the awareness required for the position.

elroy
08/01/2009, 8:20 AM
Considering the team performance, he was pointed out for praise by Ferguson which is a great sign. If anyone can bring a player through from underage to the reserves to the first team, its Fergie. Looks like he's gonna be staying at OT for the foreseeable future anyways.

tetsujin1979
08/01/2009, 10:26 AM
Considering the team performance, he was pointed out for praise by Ferguson which is a great sign. If anyone can bring a player through from underage to the reserves to the first team, its Fergie. Looks like he's gonna be staying at OT for the foreseeable future anyways.
Not to rain on your parade, but the last player Fergie brought through from the reserves to become a first team regular at United was either Wes Brown or John O'Shea. Having said that, the majority of players that do make at least one appearance for the senior team go on to have decent careers in football, albeit at a lower level.
Had a discussion (fine, it was an argument) about this with a friend of mine one night in the pub, make a team up of players who came through the ranks at a Premier League side, but currently play with another team. The Arsenal cast offs looked pretty decent.

geysir
08/01/2009, 10:39 AM
So the worst case scenario is that statistically he has a good chance some future at some decent level :)

At least the lad is benefitting from favour being passed his way by both his club and national manager, he is getting the opportunities being put his way to make an impression at the very top of the game.
I'd say if he had joined Arsenal he would already be classified as a cast off.

Royal rover
08/01/2009, 11:03 AM
whatever anyone says Gibson is rated by fergie, after listening to post match comments last night he obviously sees he has a future at OT - all jokes aside gents some people have been critical of him so far , but both Fergie & Trap have enough knowledge to know when they spot a good player - Gibson will be a good player in my eyes.

irishfan86
08/01/2009, 11:38 AM
There is no doubt in my mind that Gibson is good enough to play Premier League football right now. But I'm not sure that's going to happen with United.

Is he better than their other options? Last night's match would suggest he's closer than I may have thought, but even if he is, I'm not entirely sure he'll get a chance to prove it.

Ferguson has been talking about Gibson positively now for a long time, but I'm not sure he has 90 minutes of senior football in the centre of the park under his belt yet. Every time I've seen him in a competitive match for United this season he's been played on the right, with the exception of last night. Even then, he didn't start there.

But, he's going to get a chance in a semi-final, and I hope he grabs it with both hands.

I think he's going to be a decent player for Ireland either way, it's just a matter of whether or not his club future lies with United.

tetsujin1979
08/01/2009, 12:17 PM
Ferguson has been talking about Gibson positively now for a long time, but I'm not sure he has 90 minutes of senior football in the centre of the park under his belt yet. Every time I've seen him in a competitive match for United this season he's been played on the right, with the exception of last night. Even then, he didn't start there.
Me either, but I don't think he'll be risked in the centre of the park for a full game until he's proven he can handle the pressure of it. 30 minutes or so in the engine room last night is another step along the road.

Manc Irish Wolf
08/01/2009, 1:49 PM
Me either, but I don't think he'll be risked in the centre of the park for a full game until he's proven he can handle the pressure of it. 30 minutes or so in the engine room last night is another step along the road.

Think the chance of this will come sooner rather than later after his performance yesterday in relation to Anderson, which should see him rise up the pecking order.

Seen him a few times at the Wolves and the two natural instincts that strook me was that he was always looking to find space - essential for any good midfielder - and the simple fact that he has balls which was always Liam Miller's downfall. His passing looks good and he's not afraid to shoot, so if he can get improving his tackling and increase his workrate a bit we will have a good box-to-box midfielder on our hands.

Not quite sure why some people remain unconvinced. He's a young kid, is highly regarded and is quite obviously work in progress. Irrespective, even if he doesn't make the grade at United, surely the fact that he is even in contention is more encouraging than players emerging in the Championship? (Said by an advocate of the championship players)

paul_oshea
08/01/2009, 2:03 PM
he needs to bulk up a bit i think as well.

What i cant understand is how players cant get better at tackling and imposing themselves, its not a an innate skill rather one that is acquired through practice and awareness. Hopefully he can literally put a stamp on things and get better at this.

Have to say I was half watching the match(wanted to watch it all but had a committee meeting so couldn't)and was automatically attracted to his pass to tevez in the second half from the right side of midfield, i think it was a break out from defence, anyway he looked up and instantly found tevez, was a great piece of play.

On another trivial note, he looks a lot like evans well in terms of physique anyway. I know evans was never going to play for ROI, but it would have been great last night if he was. Himself, gibson and oshea all playing for current PL and CL champions. No excuses not to qualify for the world cup ;)

superfrank
08/01/2009, 4:27 PM
Himself, gibson and oshea all playing for current PL and CL champions. No excuses not to qualify for the world cup ;)
Except that none of them are first-teamers.

Closed Account
20/01/2009, 6:22 PM
Starting tonight
Foster

Rafael
Evans
Neville
JOS

Giggs
Gibson
Anderson

Nani
Welbeck
Tevez


Bench:

Ronaldo
Tosic
Chester
Scholes
PIG
Fletcher
Possebon

Could be right side of midfield again though
Foster
Rafael-Neville-Evans-O'Shea
Gibson-Anderson-Giggs-Nani
Welbeck-Tevez

John83
20/01/2009, 6:55 PM
Could be right side of midfield again though...
I haven't really seen any Premiership football this season. Is Giggs being played in the middle? It would seem more sensible to put Nani on the right and Gibson in the centre.

Razors left peg
20/01/2009, 7:07 PM
I haven't really seen any Premiership football this season. Is Giggs being played in the middle? It would seem more sensible to put Nani on the right and Gibson in the centre.

Giggs played in the middle against Chelsea recently and was man of the match

holidaysong
20/01/2009, 7:23 PM
Gibson made two bad mistakes in a row when it was still 0-0 according to BBC R5 which nearly cost them a goal.

richieos
20/01/2009, 7:26 PM
im watching the match, it wasnt gibsons fault, he was left exposed and recieved a poor pass

Buller
20/01/2009, 7:48 PM
15th minute: Gibson produces two strong challenges in a row to win possession from Man United on the halfway line.

^ He's not doing too bad!

And John O'Shea scored?! Now thats unbelieveable...

NeilMcD
20/01/2009, 8:37 PM
Starting tonight
Foster

Rafael
Evans
Neville
JOS

Giggs
Gibson
Anderson

Nani
Welbeck
Tevez


Bench:

Ronaldo
Tosic
Chester
Scholes
PIG
Fletcher
Possebon

Could be right side of midfield again though
Foster
Rafael-Neville-Evans-O'Shea
Gibson-Anderson-Giggs-Nani
Welbeck-Tevez


Who is PIG by the way

richieos
20/01/2009, 8:45 PM
gibson is impressing me in this match, carrying the ball well and even playing some splitting passes, very involved and rarely loses the ball

paul_oshea
20/01/2009, 9:03 PM
imagine oshea and gibson, evans 3 Irish people playing at united. I know evans plays for NI.