Darron Gibson

[OwlsFan]

Good article.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/darron-gibson-has-gained-wisdom-amid-the-darkest-times-31085207.html

"I don't mean any disrespect here when I say this, but we've got a manager who speaks English and sometimes the players weren't really understanding what was going on at times under Trapattoni.

"Now we fully understand what's expected of us, we fully understand what we're doing, set-pieces, formations, shape. So I think it's been better since the new gaffer's come in. I think it gives us a better chance overall."

"In hindsight, looking back maybe Trapattoni was right, that I needed to leave to play football elsewhere. I left and came here under David Moyes and played nearly every game when I was fit, so he might have been right. But, like you said, I was going to do everything to try and stay there."

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-planning-darron-gibson-contract-9582573

Everton planning contract talks with Gibbo.

[Irwin3]

Turns out Gibson did in fact end up having a minor surgery on his abductor muscle to "make sure his pelvic area is ready". Martinez has made comments saying that he's still a few weeks away/"end of august", although whether that means full fitness/ready to play or ready to make a return to full training I don't know. Maybe he'll be ready for another run-out against Gibraltar.

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2015/08/06/lukaku-pushing-for-watford

(http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2015/08/06/lukaku-pushing-for-watford)
Sllightly expanded version of the comments:
“Darron Gibson had a problem from last season. Darron hasn’t been able to get back fully fit since he broke his metatarsal, he has gone just for a straightforward procedure in his abductor and he should be back in the next 14 to 15 days,”

http://www.irishpost.co.uk/sport/james-mccarthy-is-not-for-sale-says-roberto-martinez

[Closed Account]

Darron is in a spot of bother
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/darron-gibson-charged-drink-driving-9883312

[Nugget]

He's in trouble now. Hit a cyclist while driving drunk.
http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/ireland-everton-footballer-darron-gibson-6277079


edit: Beaten to it by a few seconds!

[tricky_colour]

a while since he has hit the target.:p

[DeLorean]

The value of the car is a crucial part of the story of course, and his salary! Anyway, that's really not good.

[Stuttgart88]

My God, the way that his written. His car, his salary, his house (twice). He is being charged with drink driving, not being rich.

[Charlie Darwin]

That doesn't sound good at all. Thankfully nobody was seriously hurt.

[Stuttgart88]

The allegations are very serious. Skipping the scene makes things miles worse. Crashing into a pump too. The visual image I have is of Jim Hacker driving his car home while drunk in Yes Minister in the 80s. Anyone remember that? I'm sure it's on YouTube.

If the allegations are proven I'd say he could be looking at a pretty serious punishment.

I presume that's the "other Derryman" thing MON is referring to?

[tricky_colour]

Prem ace in ‘boozy hit and run’

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6595939/Prem-star-Darron-Gibson-charged-over-hit-and-run.html?CMP=spklr-_-S9SunSocial-_-TWITTER-_-TheSunNewspaper-_-20150818-_-News-_-223975124




Police were called and the 27-year-old former Man Utd midfielder, paid £50,000 a week, was arrested after failing a breath test.

It is understood the cyclist sustained minor injuries.



Net good at all, especially with him hitting a cyclist.

[geysir]

The Northern Irishman is in a spot of bother.

[paul_oshea]

The Irishman from Derry over here.

[Kingdom]

Net good at all, especially with him hitting a cyclist.

Hmmmm, depends on how you view them.

[SwanVsDalton]

Gibson's pleaded guilty to hitting a cyclist while drink-driving then driving off (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/everton-footballer-darron-gibson-admits-drinkdriving-crash-charges-31493517.html). Report says he'll be sentenced later.

[Stuttgart88]

Examiner.ie has a quote suggesting a "community penalty" is likely outcome.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/darron-gibson-admits-drink-drive-charge-693671.html

[DeLorean]

Sounds like he was lucky he didn't do a lot more damage.

[KK77]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/sep/01/darron-gibson-guilty-drink-driving-cyclist
<MOD EDIT - corrected URL>

[geysir]

Darron was just demonstrating another side to his accident proneness.
And of all the bikes he crushes into smithereens, it just happens to be one of the most expensive road bikes in the universe.

[liamoo11]

back for everton 21s tonight be great to have him back fit

[DeLorean]

He might have timed it well with the injury to Besic on Saturday. That said, they're not likely to stray too far from the team that ended up doing the business against Chelsea.

[TrapAPony]

back for everton 21s tonight be great to have him back fit

He'll probably play 2 games & then be injured again. Made of glass that lad.

[triggsrevenge]

back for everton 21s tonight be great to have him back fit

I wouldn't consider him for the next 2 games, no way he'll be match fit.

[DannyInvincible]

He'll probably play 2 games & then be injured again. Made of glass that lad.

He has had surgery on his abductor muscle, which was continually causing him the groin trouble. (Was it that the tissue would swell or something after a few weeks of sustained activity until it would become so inflamed that it leave him in pain and unable to play? Or was there an repeated abnormal growth/swelling on a nearby bone or something? I recall the matter being explained along those lines but can't remember the specifics; maybe someone can clarify...) That was the root of the recurring problem anyway, as far as I know, and he had originally been scheduled to have that operation when Moyes was in charge, but when Martinez took over then, it didn't seem to happen for some reason. Hopefully, now that it's sorted, he can actually get a good stretch of playing time now without any injury problems arising.

Where did I put those Rosary beads?...

[DeLorean]

Can one play football after having a hip replacement? (Obviously not directly after!).

[tetsujin1979]

Can one play football after having a hip replacement? (Obviously not directly after!).
Friend of a friend had to have his hip replaced recently after an injury sustained playing touch rugby, think he's about 33-34. He's been told he can't even go jogging any more. Replacements have a 20-30 year lifespan depending on wear and tear, so he'll have to have his replacement replaced probably before he retires.

[Irwin3]

It was Moyes who reported Gibson as having an abnormal growth in the area, I think it was referred to as a 'calcified mass'. I believe that this would cause the muscle to weaken and result in recurring injuries to the area. I don't believe he had had any surgeries to the area before this recent one, so hopefully this surgery will be beneficial with regard to these particular injuries.

28 next month. Hopefully a few years with no major injuries are on the horizon. Though at this stage maybe that is beyond even being a fool's hope...

[gastric]

He has had surgery on his abductor muscle, which was continually causing him the groin trouble. (Was it that the tissue would swell or something after a few weeks of sustained activity until it would become so inflamed that it leave him in pain and unable to play? Or was there an repeated abnormal growth/swelling on a nearby bone or something? I recall the matter being explained along those lines but can't remember the specifics; maybe someone can clarify...) That was the root of the recurring problem anyway, as far as I know, and he had originally been scheduled to have that operation when Moyes was in charge, but when Martinez took over then, it didn't seem to happen for some reason. Hopefully, now that it's sorted, he can actually get a good stretch of playing time now without any injury problems arising.

Where did I put those Rosary beads?...

Youl probably left the rosary beads in the Jack Grealish thread before it was closed!;)

[punkrocket]

Can one play football after having a hip replacement? (Obviously not directly after!).
I'd say so. I know of someone who is a high ranking karate man and who has had a hip replacement. If there's any activity that needs good hip movement it's karate.

[DannyInvincible]

Just a word from Martinez on Gibson: http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2015/0917/728422-coleman-fitness-boost-for-ireland/


Darron Gibson is also close to a return to action as he continues to recover from a foot injury.

The midfielder featured for the Everton Under-21s on Monday as he stepped up his recovery from a foot problem, and Martinez said of Gibson: "Medically, he's fully fit and ready to rejoin the group, it's just a case of getting him that match fitness."

I'm guessing he'll be called into the provisional squad at least, in spite of the time out.

[DannyInvincible]

Gibson back on Everton's bench tonight away to West Brom.

McGeady also on the bench. Coleman still out injured. Otherwise, McCarthy starts and McClean starts for West Brom.

[DeLorean]

This is actually his third game on the bench but good to know he hasn't broken down yet! It'd be nice if he (and McGeady) saw some game time. They're down 1-0 close to half time.

[Charlie Darwin]

Gibson on for the final 20 minutes. McCarthy was just booked for a bad dive in the box.

[liamoo11]

Gibson on for the final 20 minutes. McCarthy was just booked for a bad dive in the box.

Thought gidson played well really gave everton more purpose with his passing. He takes risks with his passing and makes things happen. Would love to see him play home to germany with mccarthy anchoring and hendrick doing his running with wes and brady off long

[tricky_colour]

Well Everton got 2 goals back and won the game when he is on the pitch, dunno how much influence he
had on that but he certainly can't have done much harm. Who need Mr Gr when you have Mr Gi?

[Stuttgart88]

Being banned from driving has probably improved his fitness.

[OwlsFan]

Both Keane and O'Neill (and indeed Gordon Strachan) were at the game and the camera went on them when Gibson was coming on and they looked genuinely interested. Gibson did well for the time he was on and, depending on fitness, could possibly take on Whelan's mantle in his absence due to suspension.

p.s. Didn't like McCarthy's dive looking for a peno and he looked genuinely sheepish when he was booked.

[jbyrne]

Thought gidson played well really gave everton more purpose with his passing. He takes risks with his passing and makes things happen. Would love to see him play home to germany with mccarthy anchoring and hendrick doing his running with wes and brady off long

Gibson has got many chances with us and constantly failed to deliver each time. we would get a far more honest performance from meyler or quinn

[Charlie Darwin]

I don't think Gibson's failed to deliver.

[zero]

I don't think Gibson's failed to deliver.

i don't ever remember him playing particularly well for ireland. but i could say the same about his time at united perhaps.

25 caps and 1 goal... i think mccarthy has done better overall despite the criticisms he has faced.

that said i'm not mad about stephen quinn or meyler. i also don't get why his champion dunphy keeps calling quinn a 'young player'.

[DeLorean]

27 years of age with 25 caps and nothing really to write home about. For a player so highly rated at Manchester United I think it's fair to say he hasn't delivered much. That said, his best football has been at Everton and he hasn't had many opportunities with us since, due to a self imposed exile and a spade of injuries. He'd still be my preferred choice to replace Whelan though, he's got more ability than the likes of Meyler and Quinn and undoubtedly a better positional sense which could be crucial against Germany. I've been a critic over the years but I'd still hold out a lot of hope for him making a decent impact for us if he can stay clear of injuries. I don't think it's really fair to imply he wouldn't give an 'honest' performance, I'm sure he's done his best over the years even when I was complaining about him, although I really didn't approve of the exile.

[tetsujin1979]

i don't ever remember him playing particularly well for ireland. but i could say the same about his time at united perhaps.

25 caps and 1 goal... i think mccarthy has done better overall despite the criticisms he has faced.

that said i'm not mad about stephen quinn or meyler. i also don't get why his champion dunphy keeps calling quinn a 'young player'.

Because Dunphy's only heard of him in the last few years, and he assumes that's when Quinn got his break in football.

[Charlie Darwin]

i don't ever remember him playing particularly well for ireland. but i could say the same about his time at united perhaps.

25 caps and 1 goal... i think mccarthy has done better overall despite the criticisms he has faced.

that said i'm not mad about stephen quinn or meyler. i also don't get why his champion dunphy keeps calling quinn a 'young player'.
I'd say Gibson probably suffers from the same problem as McCarthy in that he doesn't steam around the pitch making fouls, so people think he's not doing anything. I think the midfield always looks more solid with him there - problem is he's always injured.

[Closed Account]

Interesting excerpt from "Leading", Sir Alex's new tome:


I think about that game a lot, and even now I cannot account for what happened. We were 1-0 down after 33 minutes. We got the equaliser just before half-time and the next three goals were unbelievable. We sliced Everton to bits and were leading 4-2.

The irony was that we were haunted by Darron Gibson, a strong midfielder we had only just sold to Everton. I kept telling the team to not let Gibson get in a position with the ball in the middle of the pitch. But, for some reason, we didn’t, and wound up with Darron Gibson actually running the show.

[jbyrne]

I'd say Gibson probably suffers from the same problem as McCarthy in that he doesn't steam around the pitch making fouls, so people think he's not doing anything. I think the midfield always looks more solid with him there - problem is he's always injured.

there is no benefit in charging around the pitch clobbering opposition players but the minimum I expect to see is a player being up for it and putting serious pressure on their opposite number especially in centre mid. I have rarely seen Gibson play in such a way and cant remember him ever shining for us. I cant even remember coming away from one of our matches thinking he contributed greatly through his rumoured passing ability. just don't see it at all with him

[Charlie Darwin]

there is no benefit in charging around the pitch clobbering opposition players but the minimum I expect to see is a player being up for it and putting serious pressure on their opposite number especially in centre mid. I have rarely seen Gibson play in such a way and cant remember him ever shining for us. I cant even remember coming away from one of our matches thinking he contributed greatly through his rumoured passing ability. just don't see it at all with him
He's not really the type of player who wows you, but I think he makes us hard to play through and isn't absolutely shattered within 45 minutes like some other players.

[jbyrne]

and isn't absolutely shattered within 45 minutes like some other players.

given his work-rate (or rather lack of) this is no surprise

[Charlie Darwin]

given his work-rate (or rather lack of) this is no surprise
Well you're back to snapping at people's ankles again. Gibson works plenty as far as I can see, he's always switched on to what's happening and cutting off angles for the other team, then when we have the ball he does the most difficult part of the game which is actually using the ball. Granted, he's not had a game where his passing has been outstanding, but he takes responsibility.

[OwlsFan]

there is no benefit in charging around the pitch clobbering opposition players but the minimum I expect to see is a player being up for it and putting serious pressure on their opposite number especially in centre mid. I have rarely seen Gibson play in such a way and cant remember him ever shining for us. I cant even remember coming away from one of our matches thinking he contributed greatly through his rumoured passing ability. just don't see it at all with him

Yes Gibson was another of those world class players Trapp wasn't picking. At the time I said he hadn't shown any more than Whelan and in fact has probably shown less even before he was injured. I thought he did ok when he came on against WBA and if it came to a choice between him and Meyler, I'd probably go for the latter because of his physicality but there isn't much between them. Quinn I am not sure about. Saw a fair bit of him when he played for Sheff Utd but never really stood out. Dunphy rants about him because he's not in the team - needs another pet topic now that Wes is being selected.

Wouldn't lose sleep over whichever of the 3 MON selects.

[DannyInvincible]

there is no benefit in charging around the pitch clobbering opposition players but the minimum I expect to see is a player being up for it and putting serious pressure on their opposite number especially in centre mid. I have rarely seen Gibson play in such a way and cant remember him ever shining for us.

Some players are expressly instructed by their managers not to do this. There was a reason why Whelan and Andrews rarely, if ever, got stuck into tackles in the middle of the field under Trap; doing so would have drawn them out of the position they were instructed to occupy. They were to act as a wall rather than press. Just because Gibson mightn't be getting stuck into tackles, doesn't mean he's not up for a game. It's entirely possible he's under orders to restrain himself.