Darron Gibson

[NeilMcD]

Its happened many times before.

McGrath Moran Stapleton

Giles,Cantwell Brennan

Best Brennan and Dunne

Keane Irwin and and possibly O'Shea also.

[Noelys Guitar]

Its happened many times before.

McGrath Moran Stapleton

Giles,Cantwell Brennan

Best Brennan and Dunne

Keane Irwin and and possibly O'Shea also.

Roche Grimes and Daly

[holidaysong]

15th minute: Gibson produces two strong challenges in a row to win possession from Man United on the halfway line.

^ He's not doing too bad!


Yeah, he's even tackling his team mates going by that! :D

[elroy]

O'Shea took over the captaincy as well when Neville went off. yes its only a league cup game but still great honour.

[tetsujin1979]

O'Shea took over the captaincy as well when Neville went off. yes its only a league cup game but still great honour.

He's been captain before in League Cup games, not sure if he's ever worn the armband in the Premier League

[TheBoss]

The more I am seeing Gibson, the better he is becoming, and in those games, he appears to be playing the holding roll rather than stringing passes about. At times, his passing can be poor but he is young and will learn from it, I think his ability to get the ball and to contain the opposition players is really good, although my brother seems to think that he will not be at Man United for too much longer, expecting a bit too much, I think.

[Longfordian]

Hmm, he did alright from what I saw. Didn't really stand out but did nothing really wrong either. His long term future probably is not at Old Trafford in my opinion but this run of games in the Carling Cup certainly won't do him any harm in the long run. A Wembley final if selected would be more welcome experience for him.

[Calcio Jack]

Best, Brennan , Tony Dunne and Pat Dunne

[Carrigaline]

Hmm, he did alright from what I saw. Didn't really stand out but did nothing really wrong either. His long term future probably is not at Old Trafford in my opinion but this run of games in the Carling Cup certainly won't do him any harm in the long run. A Wembley final if selected would be more welcome experience for him.
Pretty much agree with that.

With Scholes, Anderson, Carrick, Fletcher, Hargreaves and Giggs all ahead of him, I doubt he has a future at United.

[endabob1]

Pretty much agree with that.

With Scholes, Anderson, Carrick, Fletcher, Hargreaves and Giggs all ahead of him, I doubt he has a future at United.

Scholes & Giggs are near the end of their careers
Hargreaves is injury prone and if rumours are to be believed might be shipped out in the summer
Fletcher is not all that, there are others in the mix too, Park is a good player who can play in the middle but I wouldn't write off his chances just yet.

[paul_oshea]

Its happened many times before.

McGrath Moran Stapleton

Giles,Cantwell Brennan

Best Brennan and Dunne

Keane Irwin and and possibly O'Shea also.

ya but united werent the force they are now.

[paul_oshea]

Pretty much agree with that.

With Scholes, Anderson, Carrick, Fletcher, Hargreaves and Giggs all ahead of him, I doubt he has a future at United.

how much longer are scholes and giggs going to go for? Hargreaves is always injured and anderson is average enough. He is fighting for his place against the likes of carrick and fletcher if you ask me, until of course ferguson brings in another midfielder things will then get difficult. Just looking at that uniteds defensive midfield is nothing special.

[OwlsFan]

At times, his passing can be poor but he is young and will learn from it.

Not sure age helps much there. You either have the ability to pass a ball well or you don't.

[DeLorean]

Probably won't be the most popular of posts but I thought Gibson was very poor last night. The only positive thing I would say about his performance was that he was involved and seen plenty of the ball. Unfortunately his distribution was very poor and I felt it was mainly due to carelessness. It was like he was trying to appear too cool for school at times just throwin his leg at it. As for Anderson being an average player I think is a mental statement. He's had an enormous impact in his short time at United and is still only 20 (younger than Gibson I might add).

[DeLorean]

Gibson is very poor at all times, he's the worst Irish player in the premiership imo.

I wouldn't go that far for the simple reason that I don't see him play often enough. Unless u are a regular visitor to United reserve matches it's difficult to form a proper opinion really I think. Last night was the first time I've seen him play 90mins for United in his preferred position and I thought he was sloppy but wouldn't write the guy off completely. Of course in the Cyprus match he looked completely out of his depth and was disappointing again against Poland faded horribly after a promising opening 10-15mins.

[Stuttgart88]

I only saw from 15th to 30th minute (so sod all basically) and thought he did ok, nothing particularly positive but he kept it ticking along and played some neat passes under pressure. One paper gave him 7/10, only Nani getting higher. OK, if anyone who saw him and thought he was sloppy I can't argue with that.

For me he doesn't "add value" enough and tends to let others look for the ball a bit more assertively but I think he's a handy enough player already. I think CM is a tough position - easy to look crap and hard to look good.

Worst Irish player in Premiership? I think you need to head up to Sunderland - there's plenty of competition for that title up there, a certain ginger CB leading the way.

[paul_oshea]

When did you become a consultant stutts?! I have a feeling i used that term before here and you swiped it from me.....

Its a pity for Mschane that they recalled him because sbragia probably doesnt really want him either, just as cover on the worst days.

[jbyrne]

Probably won't be the most popular of posts but I thought Gibson was very poor last night.

complete rubbish. wasnt outstanding but was far from very poor. one obvious early badly misplaced pass apart he was solid enough with a very decent workrate

[Closed Account]

Gibson made two bad mistakes in a row when it was still 0-0 according to BBC R5 which nearly cost them a goal.
He attempted a pass without side of boot to O'Shea at left back. Underhit it and the full back carried it out. He made the most effort to win it back, and was unlucky not to. Theres two ways to react to that pass, scold him for messing it up affecting his confidence, or encourage him because had it come off, United had a two on one against an exposed full back. I'd be a proponent of the latter.


15th minute: Gibson produces two strong challenges in a row to win possession from Man United on the halfway line.

^ He's not doing too bad!

And John O'Shea scored?! Now thats unbelieveable...
He won a crunching tackle, then picked himself up to outjump two players, including his own to win a header. Good determination.


Who is PIG by the way
United Fans nickname for Tomas Kuszczak because well he looks like a Pig


Pretty much agree with that.

With Scholes, Anderson, Carrick, Fletcher, Hargreaves and Giggs all ahead of him, I doubt he has a future at United.
When Giggs and Scholes leaves, he'll be behind Carrick, Hargreaves, Fletcher and Anderson. One positive is that he is ahead of Possebon at this stage. The problem is, is that when Giggs and Scholes leave, United will replace them. His future is probably away from United.


Gibson is very poor at all times, he's the worst Irish player in the premiership imo.
WUM

[DeLorean]

complete rubbish. wasnt outstanding but was far from very poor. one obvious early badly misplaced pass apart he was solid enough with a very decent workrate

An excellent workrate would be the least I'd expect from a guy trying to make it at one of the biggest clubs in the world so I'd give him no brownies for that. And on that point I think he could have worked harder to be honest. I was glad to see that he was involved in the game though (cos he wasn't in his Irish matches) and if his passing was better then it would have been a solid enough performance. If u really reckon he had only one misplaced pass then I reckon u must have made a nice few cups of tea during the match!!

[jbyrne]

An excellent workrate would be the least I'd expect from a guy trying to make it at one of the biggest clubs in the world so I'd givie him no brownies for that. And on that point I think he could have worked harder to be honest. I was glad to see that he was involved in the game though (cos he wasn't in his Irish matches) and if his passing was better then it would have been a solid enough performance. If u really reckon he had only one misplaced pass then I reckon u must have made a nice few cups of tea during the match!!

watched the match for 90mins with the sole purpose of seeing how oshea and gibson did. both performed well. a good work rate is only noticed if it manifests itself with good tackles, tracking back etc and i saw that from gibson. solid performance rather than spectacular. some papers gave him a good rating too so i'm happy enough that my judgement on this is reasonable enough

[DeLorean]

watched the match for 90mins with the sole purpose of seeing how oshea and gibson did. both performed well. a good work rate is only noticed if it manifests itself with good tackles, tracking back etc and i saw that from gibson. solid performance rather than spectacular. some papers gave him a good rating too so i'm happy enough that my judgement on this is reasonable enough

To each their own, definitely an improvement on what I've seen of him so far so I'm not too disheartened by what I thought was a sloppy performance. Like I say if he tidied up the passing the performance would have been adequate against terrible opposition it must be said. I hope he does turn out to be a good player for us obviously.

[DeLorean]

A Wembley final if selected would be more welcome experience for him.

Looks like he'll get his run out at Wembley anyway according to Fergie...

"Finals are always hard to get in to and the young lads have done fantastically well to get there," he said. "It was a great performance and they (the youngsters) will all be playing in the final."

[DeLorean]

some papers gave him a good rating too so i'm happy enough that my judgement on this is reasonable enough

Do u need the papers to vindicate your own opinions or something?

[Scram]

The more I am seeing Gibson, the better he is becoming,

If you don't mind, could you keep seeing him?

[TheBoss]

I have no choice, My brother watches MUTV, and looks at the reserve games quite often :D

[tetsujin1979]

I have no choice, My brother watches MUTV, and looks at the reserve games quite often :D
AKA The "Sex and the City" excuse ;)

[seanfhear]

At times, his passing can be poor but he is young and will learn from it,
I am not saying he is goint to turn into a Roy Keane or anything but when Keane first went to utd he was far from the finished article. He was at that time an average passer(or slightly below) but he really worked on this and became a much better passer. In fact I believe that was Keanes greatest strength as a player. He always worked on his game and it was not until he was a senior player that he did not strive to improve. It was his willingness to learn and improve and steely determination that turned him into the player he was. Those qualities would not go amiss in any young person. Those that think they know it all are lost.

[livehead1]

I think Gibson did really well last night. What I think some people fail to realise is how little time they had on the ball, I don't think viewing it on television helps in this respect. Derby had a game plan to get in their faces and perhaps this contributed to a couple of slack passes he provided.

However, that said, from seeing him previously and seeing him last night there has definately been an improvement in his positioning and passing. He was always close the ball and providing support for his team-mates. He also gave a lovely through ball in the second half which I think many people have failed to pick up on.

All in all it was a decent performance from a player who appears to be getting more than a cursory glance from Alex Ferguson. He doesn't pick his teams out of sentiment (save Paul Scholes in the Champions League Final) and this point alone should leave us encouraged that even if he doesn't have a future at Man Utd, he may well have a future at the highest level.

[Razors left peg]

I only seen about 5 minutes of the match last night so cant comment on his overall performance but one of the only things I seen him do was play a lovely ball behind the full back for Ronaldo to run onto, I thought it showed very good vision

[Stuttgart88]

When did you become a consultant stutts?! I have a feeling i used that term before here and you swiped it from me.....I think I first used the term here to describe what I thought Alan Quinn did well in the Unity Cup (and in general), whereas I thought Matt Holland in the first game just moved it sideways. In my mind it's the equivalent of passing the gain line in rugby. If you can beat that then I'll concede defeat!

[Stuttgart88]

I think Gibson did really well last night. What I think some people fail to realise is how little time they had on the ballOn basis of the first leg when he moved into the middle and the 15 mins I saw last night I agree - he has a CM's instinct in that he knows his "out ball" before he receives it and I've seen him receive very difficult passes in tight spaces and with no time and he still laid the ball off accurately to a team mate, making it look easy.

I think I've said a few times here that I was at a Sunderland game at QPR 2 seasons ago and in the warm up they were playing a mass game of one touch possession football, 7 against 7 in a very tight area defined by cones. Graham Kavanagh was superb, never losing possesion once. Liam Miller was dreadful, barely ever keeping it! I think it's universally established that a genuine central midfielder has this ability.

[ofjames]

Kuszczak's nickname (PIG) is an acronym for Pole-in-goal (he's polish of course).

Has nothing to do with looking like a pig. Bit harsh i'd say


Back to topic: I think gibson did ok, gave the ball away too often tho.

[DeLorean]

Kuszczak's nickname (PIG) is an acronym for Pole-in-goal (he's polish of course).

Has nothing to do with looking like a pig. Bit harsh i'd say

Ha ha, brilliant.

[eirebhoy]

Didn't see last night's game but general consensus in work was that he was better than the first leg. I thought he was Man Utd's best midfielder in the first leg so I'll take that.

[carloz]

Thought his performance was only ok against Derby, but it says a hell of a lot that Ferguson is now playing him in the middle, and giving him the full 90 minutes. Extremly similar player to Carrick. Some of the people that are saing he was terrible probably say hi two misplaced passes early on and decided to jude him simply on that. He was very solid after this. It really really worries me that certain Irish fans can come out with a statement that he is the worst Irish player in the Premiership. He has now made his way bove possebon in the United squad and that says a lot as Fergie was singing Possebons praises at the end of last season. Trap and Fergie kow their stuff and they obviously see something worthwhile in Gibson

[Razors left peg]

Thought his performance was only ok against Derby, but it says a hell of a lot that Ferguson is now playing him in the middle, and giving him the full 90 minutes. Extremly similar player to Carrick. Some of the people that are saing he was terrible probably say hi two misplaced passes early on and decided to jude him simply on that. He was very solid after this. It really really worries me that certain Irish fans can come out with a statement that he is the worst Irish player in the Premiership. He has now made his way bove possebon in the United squad and that says a lot as Fergie was singing Possebons praises at the end of last season. Trap and Fergie kow their stuff and they obviously see something worthwhile in Gibson

I wouldnt pay any attention the person that came out with that statement... he is constantly making ridiculous statements

[DeLorean]

Some of the people that are saing he was terrible probably say hi two misplaced passes early on and decided to jude him simply on that. He was very solid after this.

Why would u assume that somebody would be thick enough to rate his performance on 2 misplaced passes early on? People's ratings of players performances vary in every single match, it doesn't have to mean that one of those people haven't a clue or made a snap decision on watchin five mins of the match.

[irishfan86]

Gibson looked alright against Derby, but I think the key thing to remember is, looking alright is very difficult to do in a cup semi-final when you're playing with players the calibre that Man United put out.

Apart from a few mistakes, which should be expected of any youngster, he did alright.

The key thing for me is that he didn't look out of place.

There's no doubt in my mind that he'll be a Premiership footballer at some stage, but I still have my doubts about it being with United.

As Stutts is asking, does he add enough going forward? At this point I don't think so, and that'll have to change if he's going to make it with United.

But he's got the ability, and it may just be a matter of him becoming more confident in his ability, which hopefully will come with time.

I have seen a few matches of him playing at reserve level, and he looks to be very positive in those games, so I don't think it's an ability issue, but a confidence issue.

Hopefully with time he can develop into a better all-around midfielder for us, but I'm still not entirely convinced that he should be starting for us at this stage of his career.

[paul_oshea]

im assuming he will get started this week in the FA cup?!

[tetsujin1979]

Probably, United are after suffering 2 more injuries, Evans and Anderson, so he might get a run out some Premier League games as well.

[HammerNThongs]

Thought his performance was only ok against Derby, but it says a hell of a lot that Ferguson is now playing him in the middle, and giving him the full 90 minutes. Extremly similar player to Carrick. Some of the people that are saing he was terrible probably say hi two misplaced passes early on and decided to jude him simply on that. He was very solid after this. It really really worries me that certain Irish fans can come out with a statement that he is the worst Irish player in the Premiership. He has now made his way bove possebon in the United squad and that says a lot as Fergie was singing Possebons praises at the end of last season. Trap and Fergie kow their stuff and they obviously see something worthwhile in Gibson

Is he still recovering from that horror tackle from Pogatetz last season or is he fit now?

[DeLorean]

Is he still recovering from that horror tackle from Pogatetz last season or is he fit now?

He has been fit and available for good while now. He came on as a sub in their 3rd Round FA Cup match at Southampton.

[co. down green]

im assuming he will get started this week in the FA cup?!

Likely to play some part in the game against Spurs.

"Hopefully I can field a strong enough team. I've got enough midfield players in terms of Michael Carrick, Darren Fletcher, Paul Scholes and Darron Gibson."

[paul_oshea]

if he is including gibson in that already the future does look bright for him. He needs to really use these chances though, i can see him being involved with united at the same level as flethcher however, no more no less from what I have seen of him thus far.

[DeLorean]

if he is including gibson in that already the future does look bright for him. He needs to really use these chances though, i can see him being involved with united at the same level as flethcher however, no more no less from what I have seen of him thus far.

Well if Fergie has has much patience with Gibson as he did with the Fletch he'll be given every possible opportunity to prove himself. Fletcher to me and many others looked absolutely brutal for the first couple of yrs at United but has proven to be a very useful squad player in the last couple. He has also soared as a vital component in the Scottish national side so hopefully Gibson can do something similar, he has it all to prove though.

[NeilMcD]

Fletcher has started more Premiership games than any other outfield player this season for Utd.

[Closed Account]

Fletcher has started more Premiership games than any other outfield player this season for Utd.
No he hasn't?

[DeLorean]

No he hasn't?

No he hasn't is right. Berbatov and Vidic are two that have definitely started more Premier League matches and I think Ronaldo also. He has more than any other central midfield player alright but that's purely circumstantial. Firstly is versatile having played at right back as well as centre and right midfield. More importantly injuries to Hargreaves, Carrick, Scholes and even Ronaldo at the start of the season have moved him up the pecking order. Andersons injury should give him another few starts and even the absence of Rafael and Evans could mean a few more games at right back. Think we've lost the run of this 'Darron Gibson' thread and I'm only taking partial responsibility!!:rolleyes:

[NeilMcD]

No he hasn't?

sorry correction that was up until a few weeks ago. Vidic has 20 Fletcher has 17 and so has Ronaldo. I must have mis heard the stat.