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nigel-harps1954
19/08/2013, 1:01 AM
Well, wasn't the official attendance given as 2,761? Or was there another figure released that wasn't simply 3,000?

nigel-harps1954
19/08/2013, 1:16 AM
Week 21:

PREMIER DIVISION

Bohs - 1,641 (1,496; 1,488; 1,835; 2,366; 1,993; 1,924; 1,463; 1,976)
Bray - 892 (965; 1,121; 952; 1,169; 1,106; 1,200; 1,027; 1,550)
Cork - 1,993 (2,786; 2,128 FD; 1,693 FD; 2,681; 3,142; 2,897; 2,941; 3,644)
Derry - 1,607 (1,460; 2,135; 1,965 FD; 2,436; 3,363; 2,614; 3,229; 2,698)
Drogheda - 872 (977; 811; 859; 1,106; 1,631; 1,919; 1,751; 1,682)
Dundalk - 1,951 (949; 1,355; 1,877; 2,371; 1,459 FD; 1,406 FD; 1,078 FD; 474 FD)
Limerick - 1,804 (734 FD; 569 FD; 598 FD; 429 FD; 517 FD; 670 FD; 364 FD; 669 FD)
Pat's - 1,403 (1,474; 1,346; 1,756; 1,631; 1,795; 1,910; 1,342; 1,599)
Rovers - 3,075 (3,127; 3,779; 3,794; 3,611; 1,468; 1,715; 1,089 FD; 1,539)
Shels - 1,079 (1,187; 781 FD; 737 FD; 972 FD; 986 FD; 888 FD; 1,690; 1,949)
Sligo - 2,576 (3,007; 2,103; 1,807; 1,756; 1,960; 1,448; 1,806; 1,794 FD)
UCD - 410 (506; 558; 610; 272 FD; 546; 663; 546; 653; 306 FD)

FIRST DIVISION

Athlone - 508 (271; 200; 354; 462; 387; 670; 421; 316)
Cobh - 479 (2008 - 1,122 PD; 681; 368; 403; 240)
Harps - 505 (429; 433; 644; 480; 1,607 PD; 1,164; 428; 1,347 PD; 1,106) -
Longford - 424 (365; 315; 230; 260; 406; 885 PD; 681 PD; 1,004 PD)
Mervue - 236 (243; 349; 123; 166)
Salthill Devon - 127 (182; 125; 122)
Waterford - 449 (453; 466; 619; 434; 670; 1,181 PD; 915 PD; 1,513 PD)
Wexford - 239 (302; 216; 343; 494; 767; 810)

PREMIER AVERAGE: 1,611 (1,630; 1,547; 1,512; 2,010; 1,746; 1,687; 1,535; 1,759)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 371 (372; 578; 682; 417; 641; 722; 570; 520)

OVERALL AVERAGE: 1,149 (1,125; 1,110; 1,095; 1,175; 1,221; 1,235; 1,070; 1,195)

TOTAL WEEKLY ATTENDANCE: 11,471
OVERALL ATTENDANCE: 271,114

outspoken
19/08/2013, 10:57 AM
271 official att for Town V Salthill.

nigel-harps1954
19/08/2013, 12:51 PM
271 official att for Town V Salthill.

Down 900 from last week.....madness. Did Athlone really bring 900 with them?

outspoken
19/08/2013, 10:12 PM
This game never brings out a crowd in shocked it was that high tbh as there was a lot if big local events on all weekend in Longford. Athlone brought 400 last week so really we had 700 last week which is the highest we ever get in the FD, we need PD football.

blueblood
19/08/2013, 10:27 PM
31643 in Thomond for the ucd game.
That could be right, my season ticket wouldn't scan and i was just left in, the security fella said season tickets wouldn't be included in the attendance, sound fella he didn't even search me

ForzaForth
20/08/2013, 6:25 PM
184 at Wexford Youths vs Cobh Ramblers per report in local papers.

wonder88
20/08/2013, 11:18 PM
My estimate for Mervue v Athlone is approx 400. Must be best crowd in Fahy Field for season.

ATFC-1887
20/08/2013, 11:32 PM
Connacht Tribune seems to think 500. I would of said 300-350 with 250 from Athlone.

wonder88
21/08/2013, 11:32 AM
Tribune well out, lets say between 350 and 400.

atfconline
21/08/2013, 12:44 PM
Local Athlone paper says official attendance was 553.

nigel-harps1954
21/08/2013, 6:15 PM
Local Athlone paper says official attendance was 553.

Unless the ground was packed, I'd doubt that one. Highly doubt it.

I remember being down there earlier on in the season with a large Harps travelling support of around 150-200, official attendance was 401 and we all laughed when hearing it.

Either way, it's the closest I've got to an attendance figure as I just put down 250.

buttyk
22/08/2013, 4:38 PM
outspoken your in dreamland if you think there were 700 Longford fans in athlone v Longford.i wud say athlone had 500-600 over.take hint on u next crowd

buttyk
22/08/2013, 4:45 PM
I would said about 400 as well about 200-250 from athlone

outspoken
24/08/2013, 9:40 PM
I would said about 400 as well about 200-250 from athlone


outspoken your in dreamland if you think there were 700 Longford fans in athlone v Longford.i wud say athlone had 500-600 over.take hint on u next crowd

Do the maths you little troll. 1115-400 = 715

ATFC-1887
24/08/2013, 10:09 PM
He clearly said 500-600 not 400.

Charlie Darwin
24/08/2013, 10:12 PM
Calling people trolls is never going to achieve anything. If somebody is wrong, just say so but throwing around names is only going to make things worse.

Sheridan
25/08/2013, 5:28 AM
Calling people trolls is never going to achieve anything. If somebody is wrong, just say so but throwing around names is only going to make things worse.
Good call, Gandhi.

brendy_éire
25/08/2013, 7:55 AM
Just for those interested, Derry-Bluebell attendance was 800. It'll be even more pathetic come Tuesday's replay. 300 and we'd b doing well.

Nah Nah Nah Nah
25/08/2013, 10:31 AM
1978 in The Showgrounds (that's one thousand nine hundred and seventy eight people before there's any smart comments)

outspoken
25/08/2013, 12:13 PM
The official attendance was 1115, everyone has said 400 from Athlone so unless you failed Maths in school....

outspoken
25/08/2013, 12:14 PM
421 given as the attendance for last night's cup game but it was a lot more than that! 200 down from Drogheda and where I was sitting was packed so more like 600-700.

bluewhitearmy
25/08/2013, 1:40 PM
The official attendance was 1115, everyone has said 400 from Athlone so unless you failed Maths in school....


He has already said he thinks there were more then 400 Athlone fans or did you fail English in school?

Like he says the drop in crowd the next home game could very well suggest there were more then 400 Athlone fans.

Charlie Darwin
25/08/2013, 1:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iSD9lPVY6Q

outspoken
25/08/2013, 2:23 PM
He has already said he thinks there were more then 400 Athlone fans or did you fail English in school?

Like he says the drop in crowd the next home game could very well suggest there were more then 400 Athlone fans.

The drop in crowd might suggest we were playing Salthill Devon or do you get the same crowd for UCD games as you do a local derby against Cork?

bluewhitearmy
25/08/2013, 3:05 PM
The drop in crowd might suggest we were playing Salthill Devon or do you get the same crowd for UCD games as you do a local derby against Cork?

It could be that but i think its just as likely that Athlone had 100 or so more then 400 as it is that ye lost over 400 home fans in the space of a week.

Acornvilla
25/08/2013, 3:49 PM
Crowds fluctuating based on importance of and hype surrounding a match shocker.

I was at Thomond when there was 3k odd people v Cork, and then at the League Cup match v Waterford when there wasn't even 200 so the same carry on happens in Limerick, and everywhere else to some degree..

We used to get the crowd we did v Athlone last week, week in week out when in the PD or when we had a shot at winning cups, those same fans are the people who showed for the Athlone match but won't be seen again until there's another hugely important game or we're promoted.

Longfordian
25/08/2013, 4:08 PM
Yeah there were a lot of heads there that hadn't been seen since we went down.

bluewhitearmy
25/08/2013, 5:07 PM
Crowds fluctuating based on importance of and hype surrounding a match shocker.

I was at Thomond when there was 3k odd people v Cork, and then at the League Cup match v Waterford when there wasn't even 200 so the same carry on happens in Limerick, and everywhere else to some degree..

We used to get the crowd we did v Athlone last week, week in week out when in the PD or when we had a shot at winning cups, those same fans are the people who showed for the Athlone match but won't be seen again until there's another hugely important game or we're promoted.


Its impossible that Athlone had more then 400 then?

outspoken
25/08/2013, 5:58 PM
Ah sure feck it they were all Athlone fans all 1115 of them, what's the point.

Acornvilla
25/08/2013, 6:00 PM
Its impossible that Athlone had more then 400 then?
Never said it was, but doubtful yes.

ATFC-1887
25/08/2013, 7:39 PM
He has already said he thinks there were more then 400 Athlone fans or did you fail English in school?

Like he says the drop in crowd the next home game could very well suggest there were more then 400 Athlone fans.

There was alot more than 400 from Athlone. Oh well all that matters is that we beat them :D

bluewhitearmy
25/08/2013, 10:15 PM
Ah sure feck it they were all Athlone fans all 1115 of them, what's the point.

I dont even care about the crowd but you have had a go at the poster while completely ignoring parts of his posts. Making fun of him while you yourself were being stupid.


Never said it was, but doubtful yes.

Just like i never said it wasn't crowd fluctuation (in fact i said it could have been) and you went off on one about that. And why is it doubtful was there any official confirmation of only 400 Athlone fans?

Macy
26/08/2013, 8:13 AM
Like he says the drop in crowd the next home game could very well suggest there were more then 400 Athlone fans.
If all things were equal, which there were not, so to extrapolate like that is bs. Rightly or wrongly, the feeling after the clasico was that it was season over, which would also explain a big drop in attendance, and there were a lot of Longford supporters that hadn't been for years at that game. I also know amongst my circle, that a lot made the extra effort to get to the clasico and couldn't get away the next week. Plus we had loads of volunteers that day, are ye even including them?

You simple cannot extrapolate attendance at subsequent games to then work a split of an earlier game, as there's too many other variables. If it even really fecking matters! Athlone have serious issues with the way they go to war over a 100 either. Do they all drive big cars too?

nigel-harps1954
26/08/2013, 2:20 PM
Lack of attendances from FAI Cup games. 550 at Harps v Cobh per extratime. Would have said only around 400 myself.

d rovers
26/08/2013, 3:17 PM
Sligo Rovers vs Cork City attendance was 1,978.

oriel
27/08/2013, 10:55 PM
Dundalk v Limerick, 1,321. Think this was the 3rd or 4th lowest of the season.

Charlie Darwin
27/08/2013, 11:00 PM
Dundalk v Limerick, 1,321. Think this was the 3rd or 4th lowest of the season.
After the last couple of seasons, it must feel really good to say that. Delighted to see Dundalk bringing in the fans again, even if it is at the expense of my club.

nigel-harps1954
28/08/2013, 12:00 AM
Dundalk v Limerick, 1,321. Think this was the 3rd or 4th lowest of the season.

Indeed, only two League attendances have been lower all season. Great news for Dundalk really. I'd imagine they're set for a nice looking profit come the end of the season.

oriel
28/08/2013, 11:05 AM
Well people forget, it really only was last season that was a recent disaster, both of Foster's sides of 2010 and 2011 started very well, and played some decent football, they just couldnt defend!! The 2010 side led the table for 4 weeks, and played in 2 rounds of Europe, the 2011 side got to the Setanta Cup Final, but both years finished dreadfully, finishing 6th and 7th respectively and the seasons were both over by the end of Aug.

Crowds dropped off from Sept for both year, this year they're the opposite with the average almost 1,000 more than 2012, so ofcourse its great to see. The surprise for last year was that the average was so 'high' at 950, as it was that bad of a year. Men v Boys pretty much all year.

This is the first summer season we have enjoyed really, even if we win nothing and miss out on europe, it will still be looked back as a fantastic year. Hopefully we might get some reward, I think we might, we'll see, fair bit to go yet though.

As for end of season, there was an interview recently with the chairman on local radio, if crowds maintain as they are, and if some can grow even more, projections are to break even, or very small loss. New owners have everything paid out of 12k per week, includes all bills, running a tight ship it seems.

Possibly prize money will see this move to profit, but none of that would have been budgeted for.

avvenalaf
28/08/2013, 12:41 PM
Not trying to stir anything but I heard at the weekend that, if budget is not upped significantly next year, Stephen Kenny may be available.

Louth4sam
28/08/2013, 12:48 PM
Not trying to stir anything but I heard at the weekend that, if budget is not upped significantly next year, Stephen Kenny may be available.

Under contract for another year with an option of a third.

Ezeikial
28/08/2013, 2:59 PM
Not trying to stir anything but I heard at the weekend that, if budget is not upped significantly next year, Stephen Kenny may be available.
Not trying to stir anything - but maybe you should mix with more reliable types.

avvenalaf
29/08/2013, 1:12 AM
Ezeikial, you wouldn't believe how reliable the source was. I did say ...if...

oriel
29/08/2013, 8:57 AM
Or maybe you heard he has made a suggestion to the board/owners that if the club wanted to push on next year, the budget will probably have to be increased.

I would say that would be a very reasonable and achievable request, as long as its within the range that the club can afford.

dong
29/08/2013, 9:37 AM
Or maybe you heard he has made a suggestion to the board/owners that if the club wanted to push on next year, the budget will probably have to be increased.

I would say that would be a very reasonable and achievable request, as long as its within the range that the club can afford.

Id say he would be looking for a few more quid for players alright, hardly surprising considering how well he's done with a small budget this year.
Thats when the real pressure builds, to achieve at least what you did previously when you are given more to spend.

nigel-harps1954
29/08/2013, 11:00 AM
Jesus christ, is €12k a week actually such a small budget? 20 players, manager, backroom staff, all on a full time wage.

White Horse
29/08/2013, 11:23 AM
Jesus christ, is €12k a week actually such a small budget? 20 players, manager, backroom staff, all on a full time wage.

It would appear to be the right budget for Dundalk at the moment, as the club is expected to break even this season. This on the basis of a projected average attendance of 2,000.
I do wonder how some other clubs are speculated to have higher budgets while having lower attendances.

The budget for next season should benefit from new revenue that will be brought in from the new 500 Club membership scheme.

Hopefully this additional revenue will allow Kenny to progress the squad in a way that meets his ambition.

Dodge
29/08/2013, 11:55 AM
It would appear to be the right budget for Dundalk at the moment, as the club is expected to break even this season. This on the basis of a projected average attendance of 2,000.


That was a pretty ballsy projection given they struggled to get 1,000 to most games last year.

oriel
29/08/2013, 12:17 PM
Not really, after 2 games last year it was clear the squad was virtually FD Standard. The game was up after Series 1 and everyone knew it. Very few players remained from 2012 for this season, only 2 are currently starting, plus new owners, new manager, whole new entity really, they knew they could sell this to the fans.

Last year was a joke, I think 400 turned up for the last league game, but it rose to 1,500 for the playoff.

Comparisons were like night and day, 2012 v 2013

Nigel

I dont think he squad is Full Time, maybe some are but a lot would be on modest wages compared to at least 2 or 3 other clubs.

The fans knew something really different was starting this season, we may not win anything this season, who knows? but the quality of football is up there with the best I've seen in 30 years, and thats what the fans are coming out to see.