2005 Attendances

[pineapple stu]

Suppose we're doing this again?

We estimated 1,800 at Tolka for Shels v. UCD. Riverside was closed; the people in the open stand would have filled the Shed (600?) and the eircom stand was about 60% full (1200?). Maybe someone can fill in the stand capacities better and we can work out an attendance.

Ceefax has 3,000. Don't know where they got that from, but it looks far too high.

[Slash/ED]

New Stand and Main Stand is supposed to be 3,500 so if your percentages are right, and i'd go along with them I'd say, the figure would be higher.

[pineapple stu]

What's the breakdown between the two? Say 600 and 2900 - that gives a crowd of 2600 or so?

[Slash/ED]

A bit more for the new stand and less for the Main stand I'd say. 900 for the new stand 2,600 for the main stand sounds more like it I'd say.

[pineapple stu]

You don't like doing maths, do you?! ;)

900 + 2/3 (2600) = 2633. Call it 2600. Wouldn't have thought that many, though if it fits the percentages...

[Slash/ED]

2,477 was the figure given on the Shels forum by Fintan, I'd assume a figure that exact is the offical one.

[GalwayFrancis]

2,477

start with a good figure,nice.....the setanta cup match attracted 1291 on a tuesday shels get double that on the wednesday....lets see how much will be in dalymount onfriday

[dublinmark]

Ceefax on BBC said 3,000, wonder where they got that from? the result was in with all the english non league scores

[Bray Head]

I'd say the 2,477 is probably correct as all clubs are supposed to submit official attendances to the League offices with 1/2 hour of the game finishing. That's a good crowd for a home game against UCD. Shels should double that for the visit of top clubs this season.

[pineapple stu]

Aye, seems Shels and Bohs now releasing official attendances. Think Galway were as well last season? Any other clubs doing this, do people know?

Also good to see meself and Slash/Ed worked out the attendance to within 123 (or 5%) - we must be getting alright at the guesstimating here! :)

[pineapple stu]

500 (http://athlonetown.irishfootie.net/viewtopic.php?t=498&sid=e7954d37d4558253f25a9f28cad1219b) mentioned for Athlone v. Dundalk, though I always think the accuracy of any guess is inversely proportionate to the amount of exclamation marks in the post! :)

4,200 (http://gypsiesweb.proboards14.com/index.cgi?board=general&num=1111061914&action=display&start=0) provisionally for Bohs-Rovers, though an official gate will be announced over the weekend. Bit after the 30-minute deadline, but anyway!

[eamoss]

In the Star they had it as:
Athlone V Dundalk 250
Drogs V Derry 2007
Bohs V Rovers 4500
Bray V Pats 3000

[A face]

There is meant to have been about 2500 up in Finn Park for Harps V City. Got that from City fan at the game. Harps fans might have a better idea.

[De Town]

There is meant to have been about 2500 up in Finn Park for Harps V City. Got that from City fan at the game. Harps fans might have a better idea.
Jesus, thought there would have been more than that.

1400 at Longford-Waterford :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Carlin]

4000 at Bohs-Scum (http://gypsiesweb.proboards14.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&num=1111061914&start=15)

1400 on Connaught Street
400 in Shed
2200 in Jodi

[A face]

Jesus, thought there would have been more than that.


I could be wrong here .... i got a txt from a mate with that, a harps fan would be in a better position to confirm that figure.

[pineapple stu]

In the Star they had it as:
Athlone V Dundalk 250
Drogs V Derry 2007
Bohs V Rovers 4500
Bray V Pats 3000
Athlone v. Dundalk is up as 252 official per a Dundalk fan on their their forum, though 500 in the match report on the official website. 2,007 for Drogs v. Derry sounds official - are Drogs releasing attendances now too? This job gets easier by the season! :)

Bray fans agree the 3000 v. Pat's. Pat's fans on their forum mention the crowd as being a positive too, so must have been decent! For reasons of professional scepticism drilled into me during my training as an auditor, the Cobh attendance - at three times their highest crowd last season - sounds very high, especially on a night when Cork were playing elsewhere too. Anyone else confirm/deny the figure?

[pineapple stu]

4000 at Bohs-Scum (http://gypsiesweb.proboards14.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&num=1111061914&start=15)

1400 on Connaught Street
400 in Shed
2200 in Jodi
Is that final official? Sounds very round?! Presume the attendances are going in the programme like before?

Suppose I can kill two birds with one stone here and do a quick recap of last season together with the first Premier Division update, as all the attendances are in. Last season in brackets.

PREMIER
Bohs 4000 (2340)
Bray 3000 (818)
Cork N/A (4033)
Derry N/A (1672)
Drogheda 2007 (1554)
Harps 2500 (1106)
Longford 1400 (1131)
Pat's N/A (1882)
Rovers N/A (1466)
Shels 2477 (2158)
UCD N/A (306)
Waterford N/A (1753)

FIRST
Athlone 252 (291)
Cobh --- (240) (to confirm Limerick)
Dublin City N/A (592)
Dundalk N/A (591)
Galway N/A (571)
Kildare N/A (298)
Kilkenny --- (108) (missing Dublin City)
Limerick N/A (188)
Monaghan --- (182) (missing Galway - Sunday game)
Sligo --- (781) (missing Kildare)

Premier Division - 2564 (1863)
First Division - 252 (515)

Obviously far too early to be comparing this year with last year, but still some decent crowds so far...

[Slash/ED]

Have you got the crowds from the first day of last season Stu? That would be a good comparison to make imo.

[pineapple stu]

Problem is that most teams playing at home then would have been away this weekend...

Still, for what it's worth:

Cork City v. Dublin City 6000
Waterford v. Drogheda 1700
Pat's v. Derry 2040
Shels v. Rovers 3500
Longford v. Bohs 1600

Athlone v. Monaghan 390
Bray v. UCD 1000
Dundalk v. Sligo 1000
Galway v. Kilkenny 720
Kildare v. Limerick 175
Harps v. Cobh 1000 (postponed a couple of weeks due to bad weather)

[atfconline]

Town/Dundalk was 450 to 500. Not official but you can take it as good as.

[pineapple stu]

Fair enough. Always like to take the lowest given attendance, but I suppose I can't argue with someone involved with the club!

[1 9 2 8]

I'd say 1500+ at the Rovers game

[CollegeTillIDie]

Indications are crowds were up for week one. Let's see if we can keep this up. ;)

[pineapple stu]

I'd say 1500+ at the Rovers game
1,500 (http://www.sligorovers.com/match/match%20stats/2005/050319_kildare.htm) per the Sligo website. that's a great crowd, even though I think the website errs on the high side; it's still a good bit higher than anything last season!

300 (http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=239002&postcount=9) being mentioned as a more realistic crowd for Cobh-Limerick.

[pineapple stu]

There is meant to have been about 2500 up in Finn Park for Harps V City. Got that from City fan at the game. Harps fans might have a better idea.
They seem to agree (http://finnharps.irishfootie.net/viewtopic.php?t=3219).

[1 9 2 8]

1,500 (http://www.sligorovers.com/match/match%20stats/2005/050319_kildare.htm) per the Sligo website. that's a great crowd, even though I think the website errs on the high side; it's still a good bit higher than anything last season!

300 (http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=239002&postcount=9) being mentioned as a more realistic crowd for Cobh-Limerick.

The main stand which holds 2,000 was nearly full and there was also good crowd on the other side of the ground too I'd say it’s right

[bohs til i die]

New Stand and Main Stand is supposed to be 3,500 so if your percentages are right, and i'd go along with them I'd say, the figure would be higher.

the main stand in Tolka is far smaller than the Jodi, which holds 2742. From memory when Bohs played Aberdeen and Kaiserslautern in Tolka, the main stand in Tolka holds 1700.

There was 4000 at Bohs v Rovers.

[1Davy]

By asking fans how many were at their games is one sure way of getting inflated figures.

Eg. one site said there was 700/800 at the Shels/UCD game, yet a supporter on the Shels site said there was 4000 at the game.

[centre mid]

reckon there was 2000+ at the pats game - the papers say 3000 but think thats a bit high

[De Town]

reckon there was 2000+ at the pats game - the papers say 3000 but think thats a bit high
someone mentione 2700

[centre mid]

Yeah sounds about right - best crowd for ages - mind you 1st div attendences are always poor - pats had a good support at the game, left early aswell

[Éanna]

They seem to agree (http://finnharps.irishfootie.net/viewtopic.php?t=3219).
yeah, i said to a face I thought it was about 2500, about 150-170 city fans.

[Carlin]

Is that final official? Sounds very round?! Presume the attendances are going in the programme like before?


Give or take a few dozen. Should be in the next home game's programme.

[Poor Student]

By asking fans how many were at their games is one sure way of getting inflated figures.



We ask that fans try to estimate on the conservative side so as we can try to be as realistic as possible. It would be petty to over inflate attendences to make your club look good.

[pineapple stu]

150 (http://dublincityfc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=182) mentioned for Kilkenny-Dublin City.


By asking fans how many were at their games is one sure way of getting inflated figures.

Eg. one site said there was 700/800 at the Shels/UCD game, yet a supporter on the Shels site said there was 4000 at the game.
Must put up a sticky thread with the answer to this question - don't know how many times it's been pointed out! :)

Last year, according to figures announecd by the league, we were within 10% in the Premier and 20% in the First (the latter would have been much closer if we'd had attendances for all games, as many of the smaller games were missing). I try and keep the guesstimates as conservative as possible to counter the inflation effect, and I think the above is proof that this is working. I also saw a post that the 700/800 crowd was completely made up by a Bohs fan and should be disregarded completely. As, indeed, should the 4000. The rational calculation of the crowd earlier in this thread was accurate to within 5%, which, barring getting official attendances, I think is quite good.

Tihs isn't meant to be perfect - just an idea.

[pineapple stu]

reckon there was 2000+ at the pats game - the papers say 3000 but think thats a bit high

someone mentioned 2700
Revised downwards so.

[pete]

2000-2500 at Ballybofey. Only guessing really as no idea what different areas of ground hold. Needs Harps fan confirm.

[Patrick Dunne]

would be a fair approximation. Star figure of 90 is inaccurately low - have often seen smaller crowds at this venue.

Its a shame that supporters of some clubs (Cobh, Sligo) use these threads to inaccurately boost their home attendances. Sadly makes the exercise redundant. In these cases, away supporters could give a far more accurate estimate.

[harpskid]

I'd say about 1600 at the Town End, 700 in the stand, 200 on the gantry side and 200 Cark men.

That gives 2,700, so that 2,500 aint far away!

The Star this morning says 4,000 :rolleyes:

[Roo69]

reckon there was 2000+ at the pats game - the papers say 3000 but think thats a bit high

It would'nt be to far off if not more than 3000, the seated "stand" holds 2500, and that was nearly full, and there was at least 1000 standing in all other parts of the ground.

[pineapple stu]

Only Monday and attendances in from all games! Wasn't expecting that! Keep it up! :)

Last season in brackets.


PREMIER
Bohs 4000 (2340)
Bray 2700 (818)
Cork N/A (4033)
Derry N/A (1672)
Drogheda 2007 (1554)
Harps 2600 (1106)
Longford 1400 (1131)
Pat's N/A (1882)
Rovers N/A (1466)
Shels 2477 (2158)
UCD N/A (306)
Waterford N/A (1753)

FIRST
Athlone 450 (291)
Cobh 300 (240)
Dublin City N/A (592)
Dundalk N/A (591)
Galway N/A (571)
Kildare N/A (298)
Kilkenny 150 (108)
Limerick N/A (188)
Monaghan 200 (182)
Sligo 1500 (781)

Premier Division - 2514 (1863)
First Division - 520 (515)

[Maynard]

Today's Star suggests 200 at Kilkenny ve Dublin City and 90 at Mons v Galway

[Poor Student]

Today's Star suggests 200 at Kilkenny ve Dublin City and 90 at Mons v Galway

The media have a tendency to underestimate. I remember a game against Limerick with UCD at Belfield near the end of the season and the guy on the radio said 50 people were in attendence when there were easily 100 and I reckon 150 at it.

[pineapple stu]

Harps attendance thread (http://finnharps.irishfootie.net/viewtopic.php?p=24220#24220) on their forum - they've come up with 2,600 for the Cork game. Have updated the averages for this.

[pineapple stu]

1,500 (http://www.sligorovers.com/match/match%20stats/2005/050319_kildare.htm) per the Sligo website.
Having seen it on eL weekly, that 1500 looks way too high. No-one behind either goal and no-one in the far stand (during the brief glimpse we had of it) - where were these 1500 people? :confused:

[A face]

where were these 1500 people? :confused:

In their new stand !!

[GalwayFrancis]

Having seen it on eL weekly, that 1500 looks way too high. No-one behind either goal and no-one in the far stand (during the brief glimpse we had of it) - where were these 1500 people? :confused:

how much does their new stand hold...could very well hold +1500

[Patrick Dunne]

There was 1490 people packed tightly together into the "new" stand, with ten other people in the other three parts of the ground, as seen on TV3. Indeed.

And I'm Larry Wyse.

[pete]

how much does their new stand hold...could very well hold +1500

2500 capacity? Tis like Turners Cross but longer i think?