2005 Attendances

[Poor Student]

350 is mentioned on the Waterford forum as well (stand 1/4 full), though only with 50 people around the ground. Will up it to 400, but it certainly wasn't much more than that.

Maybe some day we won't have the worst average in the Premier Division. :D

[OneRedArmy]

3,000-3,500 at Derry v Harps. Kick off delayed due to long queues to get in.

[pineapple stu]

Maybe some day we won't have the worst average in the Premier Division. :D
Waterford will have to be in the Premier though! ;)

Nice to see us getting higher crowds for the home game than the away game for a change (hopefully Longford as well), though obviously I'd rather it was just for our crowds going up rather than ours going up and the other team's dropping...

[Poor Student]

Waterford will have to be in the Premier though! ;)

Nice to see us getting higher crowds for the home game than the away game for a change (hopefully Longford as well), though obviously I'd rather it was just for our crowds going up rather than ours going up and the other team's dropping...

I think dropping crowds of one team are compensated by others though. Sustained success at the top will give us rather large crowds from Derry and Cork and maybe even Bohs if they can continue their pre-Cork streak.

[pineapple stu]

I think dropping crowds of one team are compensated by others though.
Definitely - there's always some teams doing well and some not so well...currently just above water with regards this year's and last year's averages.

Though that may change if you get any back attendances from Cork...?

[Poor Student]

Though that may change if you get any back attendances from Cork...?

I sent the e-mail a month ago and got not so much as a feck off. :rolleyes:

[pineapple stu]

Belated updates after the weekend. Last season in brackets.

PREMIER
Bohs 2202 (2340)
Bray 1779 (818) (missing Longford)
Cork 3592 (4033)
Derry 2589 (1672)
Drogheda 1951 (1554)
Harps 1563 (1106)
Longford 1165 (1131)
Pat's 1792 (1882)
Rovers 1986 (1466) (missing Drogheda)
Shels 2012 (2158)
UCD 749 (306)
Waterford 1313 (1753)

FIRST
Athlone 350 (291) (missing Monaghan)
Cobh 363 (240)
Dublin City 167 (592) (missing Monaghan)
Dundalk 273 (591) (missing Cobh)
Galway 634 (571)
Kildare 227 (298) (missing Dundalk and Kilkenny)
Kilkenny 133 (108) (missing Athlone, Dundalk, Kildare and Monaghan)
Limerick 844 (188)
Monaghan 178 (182) (missing Cobh and Kildare)
Sligo 1567 (781)

Premier Division - 1881 (1863)
First Division - 524 (515)

Weekend matches missing -
Bray v. Longford
Rovers v. Drogheda
Dublin City v. Monaghan
Dundalk v. Cobh
Kildare v. Kilkenny

[pineapple stu]

Comparisons to last season -

PREMIER DIVISION

Bray Wanderers v Longford Town - no figure (n/a)
Cork City v Bohemians - 4000 (1700)
Derry City v Finn Harps - 3000 (n/a)
St Pat's Ath v Shelbourne - 1884 (1800)
Shamrock Rvrs v Drogheda United - no figure (1200)
Waterford Utd v UCD - 400 (n/a)

FIRST DIVISION

Dundalk v Cobh Ramblers - no figure (500)
Dublin City v Monaghan Utd - no figure (n/a)
Galway Utd v Limerick FC - 664 (652)
Sligo Rovers v Athlone Town - 1700 (1200)
Kildare County v Kilkenny City - no figure (350)

Quick summary -
4 up
0 down
5 figures to come
3 no corresponding fixture

Premier Division average - 2942 (1750)
First Division average - 1182 (926)

[pineapple stu]

850 at UCD v. Pat's. Strange (and annoying!) that our crowds for Dublin derbies are going down while our crowds for the other games are going up...!

700 mentioned for Waterford v. Bray on their forum.

[Dr.Nightdub]

Stu, no offence, but UCD v Pats isn't a Dublin derby. UCD v Pats is having to go to bloody Belfield.

[pineapple stu]

It is for you. For us, it's a Dublin derby. I'm purely distinguishing between games where there are usually 100 away fans and games where there usually 500 away fans. A few years ago, we were regularly getting 1200 at those games and 300 at the others; now it's more like 1000 and 500. I think our home support is up, but there's fewer away fans going to the all-Dublin games (if that's better by you! :) ), so our average attendace overall is staying about the same.

[trevy]

700 at this game last night at RSC.This is from the clubs press officer on btid.

[CollegeTillIDie]

700 at this game last night at RSC.This is from the clubs press officer on btid.

ye're last two home games attracted an average of 500. I'd be very concerned about the future of the club. And for the record it gives me no pleasure to say that. Blues are my 2nd favourite team :eek:

[Poor Student]

850 at UCD v. Pat's. Strange (and annoying!) that our crowds for Dublin derbies are going down while our crowds for the other games are going up...!

700 mentioned for Waterford v. Bray on their forum.

Well if you consider how bad our Dublin neighbours are doing badly for the main part it makes sense. Pat's and Rovers have been awful this season and not so great in the last. Bohs basically only stopped doing bad this season when they met us at Belfield. The only Dublin club doing reasonably well is Shels who are the probably the smallest supported of the big 4 and even they met us during their bad spell. Rovers and Bohs still brought good crowds and Shels and Pat's weren't that bad.

[Battery Rover]

About 250 at Athlone vs Dublin City.

Around 10-15 from DC

[CollegeTillIDie]

About 250 at Athlone vs Dublin City.

Around 10-15 from DC

They were the ones who went home happy though :cool:

[CollegeTillIDie]

850 at UCD v. Pat's. Strange (and annoying!) that our crowds for Dublin derbies are going down while our crowds for the other games are going up...!

Charlie Stuart in The Star reckoned there were 1,100 at Belfield Park.

[pineapple stu]

And that's why we're not taking figures from the Star! :)

[superfrank]

850 at UCD v. Pat's. Strange (and annoying!) that our crowds for Dublin derbies are going down while our crowds for the other games are going up...!

700 mentioned for Waterford v. Bray on their forum.
It was more like 800, but definitely under 1000.

[higgins]

Did you get a figure from the rovers game last night ?
It looked very bad on the TV :(

Bit of a worry seeing as both Shels and Bohs were not playing.

Crowds seem to be going down all over. Hopefully Europe brings some new faces through the gate

[sonofstan]

guessing about 800 at Finn Park tonight - 150- 200 of us and noisier for most of the game too

[Da Real Rover]

guessing about 800 at Finn Park tonight - 150- 200 of us and noisier for most of the game too
Thats a desperate crowd for Harps, only 600 of them.

[CollegeTillIDie]

Thats a desperate crowd for Harps, only 600 of them.
If Finn Harps cannot draw a decent crowd in the Premier Division there's no hope! :eek:

[pineapple stu]

guessing about 800 at Finn Park tonight
Fair enough. Harps forum mentioned it was a poor crowd as well, so that seems reasonable. Wonder where the other 3,500 are gone from the title game? ;)

[Colie]

Stu, no offence, but UCD v Pats isn't a Dublin derby. UCD v Pats is having to go to bloody Belfield.
UCD versus anyone in Dublin isn't a derby game to them. Thats why I love when we beat them. Was still very dissapointed with the Pats turnout on Friday though.

[Comic Book Guy]

Reckon that there was 350 for Cobh v Galway, also reliably informed that the crowd for Dundalk v Cobh was around 180 -200.

[monutdfc]

About 200 for Monaghan United v Dundalk.
Worst crowd for that fixture in years.

[WindmillWarrior]

Drogs v Cork was around 1,700. And you should change Drogs v Bray. No way was there 2,000. More like 1,200!

[Schumi]

About 200 for Monaghan United v Dundalk.
Worst crowd for that fixture in years.
Dundalk fans making too many trips there I suppose.

[anto eile]

il estimate 1192 :p at Rovers v derry. the space at the singing section was well filled for the most part. the other half of the stand was poorly filled
not a bad crowd though all things considered

[thomas]

v. Hibs 1,175
v. Harps 1,224
v. Derry 1,192

[pineapple stu]

v. Hibs 1,175
v. Harps 1,224
v. Derry 1,192
Cheers Thomas! You haven't anything for the Drogheda game, have you?

[pineapple stu]

Updates after the weekend. Last season in brackets. Both divisions' averages sink to below last year... :(

PREMIER
Bohs 2202 (2340)
Bray 1779 (818) (missing Longford)
Cork 3592 (4033)
Derry 2589 (1672)
Drogheda 1834 (1554)
Harps 1478 (1106)
Longford 1165 (1131)
Pat's 1792 (1882)
Rovers 1896 (1466) (missing Drogheda)
Shels 2012 (2158)
UCD 760 (306)
Waterford 1244 (1753)

FIRST
Athlone 336 (291) (missing Monaghan)
Cobh 362 (240)
Dublin City 165 (592)
Dundalk 262 (591)
Galway 634 (571)
Kildare 227 (298) (missing Dundalk and Kilkenny)
Kilkenny 133 (108) (missing Athlone, Dundalk, Kildare, Monaghan and Sligo)
Limerick 844 (188) (missing Kildare)
Monaghan 181 (182) (missing Cobh and Kildare)
Sligo 1567 (781)

Premier Division - 1832 (1863)
First Division - 505 (515)

Weekend matches missing -
Kilkenny v. Sligo
Limerick v. Kildare

[Sheridan]

The usual 150 or so at DC vs. Monaghan.

[pineapple stu]

Comparisons to last season -

Drogheda United v Cork City - 1700 (2004 - 1898)
Finn Harps v Bohemians - 800 (n/a)
Shamrock Rovers v Derry City - 1192 (1000)
UCD St. Patrick’s Athletic - 850 (n/a)
Waterford United v Bray Wanderers - 700 (n/a)

Athlone Town v Dublin City - 250 (n/a)
Cobh Ramblers v Galway United - 350 (210)
Kilkenny City v Sligo Rovers - no figure (no figure)
Limerick v Kildare County - no figure (no figure)
Monaghan United v Dundalk - 200 (275)

Quick summary -
2 up
2 down
4 no corresponding fixture
2 figures to come

Premier Division average - 1446 (1449)
First Division average - 275 (243)

[niftynigel]

Are these official attendances?

A group of us came over from England for four games in three days, including a pre season match at Coleraine.

We did a rough 'head count' about halfway through the first half in each game. We counted everyone behind the barriers, i.e. not including any playing staff, but everyone else. The paying attendance will naturally be lower than this!

Fri 15 - Athlone Town v. Dublin City (280)
Sat 16 - Coleraine v. Rushden & Diamonds (410)
Sat 16 - Finn Harps v. Bohemians (1,100)
Sun 17 - Monaghan United v. Dundalk (220)

For the Finn Harps game, there were approx - Open side (180), Open terrace behind goal (400), Seats (120) and Covered terrace (400). I'd guess there were about 400-500 Bohs fans there. It did appear that a number of supporters, particularly on the covered side, went at half time, not to return!

I hope this is of help!?

[pineapple stu]

Are these official attendances?
Only for some clubs. Shels, Cork, St Pat's, Bohs, Limerick and Galway are the only clubs who release official attendances. The rest are "educated" guesses.

Your figures for Athlone and Monaghan are fairly close to what we have alright, although the ones here may be a bit lower 'cos I like to tend on the low side to allow for some of the, shall we say "over-exuberant" guesses :) .

Harps is a bit out though - any Harps fans want to settle the difference?

[niftynigel]

As three of us counting independently came up with remarkably similar figures for Finn Harps, then I'd be surprised if it was finally settled at 800. I personally counted twice, so that's four (that ranged between approx 1,050 - 1,150).

However, we asked a very helpful steward what he considered to be the attendance and he said 800 !

After the game, we asked a man in the press box and he said it was around 1,500 !

Add the two together and divide by two and you get 1,150.

In non league football in England, there are many different policies on attendance calculations. Some leagues accept pay on the day only, other include season ticket holders, some 'add' a set amount to cover club officials, media etc and some just do a head count or estimate!

I think the League Of Ireland should stipulate that clubs report official attendances including all non playing staff, broken down in to paying spectators and complementaries and other freebies. A simple figure for each match could then be published for each match.

It's not that it's embarrasingly low figures as the Scottish Football League and Welsh Premier League openly publish theirs and there are some very low figures. I don't think the Irish League publish theirs either, do they?

[sonofstan]

I gave the original figure of 800 for harps/ Bohs and I emphasise it was a guess - my first time at finn park and it does help to know a ground; There wasn't anything like 4-500 Bohs fans there tho', that I do know; we brought maybe 200 which is pretty damn good for a 300 mile round trip, which means we could bring that to Derry, Cork and Waterford if the games were on Saturdays instead of Friday ( I know Derry usually are but we're now playing our rescheduled match on Tues. 2)

[Stevo Da Gull]

Belated updates after the weekend. Last season in brackets.

Weekend matches missing -
Bray v. Longford

1,000 or so , I think :confused:

[pineapple stu]

As three of us counting independently came up with remarkably similar figures for Finn Harps, then I'd be surprised if it was finally settled at 800. I personally counted twice, so that's four (that ranged between approx 1,050 - 1,150).
May up it to 1000 when I get the chance so.


I think the League Of Ireland should stipulate that clubs report official attendances including all non playing staff, broken down in to paying spectators and complementaries and other freebies. A simple figure for each match could then be published for each match.
They are all required to do this. The problem is the FAI don't bother releasing the figures. Several people from here have asked, and been told that there were no plans to release figures and that they were just being gathered for information purposes. Personally, I think some clubs aren't complying yet.

[/QUOTE=nigelnigel]I don't think the Irish League publish theirs either, do they?[/QUOTE]
Nope.

[Schumi]

I know Derry usually are [on Saturdays]
Fridays this year.

[Lim till i die]

Limerick F.C. v Kildare County Friday evening was about 450 tops.

Listen closely, you can almost hear the sound of a bubble bursting :o

[Battery Rover]

FIRST
Athlone 336 (291) (missing Monaghan)
Cobh 362 (240)
Dublin City 165 (592)
Dundalk 262 (591)
Galway 634 (571)
Kildare 227 (298) (missing Dundalk and Kilkenny)
Kilkenny 133 (108) (missing Athlone, Dundalk, Kildare, Monaghan and Sligo)
Limerick 844 (188) (missing Kildare)
Monaghan 181 (182) (missing Cobh and Kildare)
Sligo 1567 (781)

I recall around 450 being at the Athlone vs Mons Game

[sligoman]

Weekend matches missing -
Kilkenny v. Sligo

600, according to Rovers website

[monutdfc]

FIRST
Athlone 336 (291) (missing Monaghan)
Cobh 362 (240)
Dublin City 165 (592)
Dundalk 262 (591)
Galway 634 (571)
Kildare 227 (298) (missing Dundalk and Kilkenny)
Kilkenny 133 (108) (missing Athlone, Dundalk, Kildare, Monaghan and Sligo)
Limerick 844 (188) (missing Kildare)
Monaghan 181 (182) (missing Cobh and Kildare)
Sligo 1567 (781)

There was about 100 when Monaghan United visited Kilkenny

[pineapple stu]

600, according to Rovers website
600?! That's four times what they'ev gotten for any other game so far!!

I know it's not your guesstimate, but does anyone else have a more reliable guess?!

[sligoman]

600?! That's four times what they'ev gotten for any other game so far!!

I know it's not your guesstimate, but does anyone else have a more reliable guess?!

:D, Well Rovers supporters trust website estimated 200, so maybe that's more accurate?

[Battery Rover]

Around 600 at the Athlone game tonight. Saw maybe 40/50 from Dundalk

[superfrank]

I'd say about 2,500-3,200 at the Carlisle tonight. Loadsa Shels fans. :o

They were probably hoping for an easy win..... :D