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pineapple stu
21/05/2005, 11:48 PM
No more than 400 at Longford v. UCD - shocking crowd. First time we ever got to sing "Bigger crowds than this, we get bigger crowds than this"! :)

Slash/ED
22/05/2005, 12:00 AM
400!? Christ, what happened there?

pineapple stu
22/05/2005, 12:26 AM
No idea. First I really noticed of it was talking to a couple of the Longford lads, and they pointed out how poor the crowd was with five minutes to kick-off. I counted about 80 outside the main stand, and 37 in the first block in the main stand (of four).

Buller
22/05/2005, 10:31 AM
Jeysus!!! What time was kick-off?! I'd say the stupid FA cup had some part in this, and even the setanta cup....

Da Real Rover
22/05/2005, 10:41 AM
There was a poor crowd at the Rovers, Dublin game. There was around 1300-1400. My guess is the ****ing rain combined with the FA cup and setanta cup took a hit on the crowd.

1 9 2 8
22/05/2005, 11:43 AM
1,800 on www.sligorovers.com

anto eile
22/05/2005, 2:06 PM
are those sligo attendances wild random estimates,or genuine official figures?they seem like huge crowds (for the first division,conisdering sligo have been in the 1st div for years now)

pineapple stu
22/05/2005, 2:57 PM
Jeysus!!! What time was kick-off?! I'd say the stupid FA cup had some part in this, and even the setanta cup....
7:30. We left Dublin after the 90 minutes and were in plenty of time for the game - no excuse for the Longford fans. Weather wasn't that bad either - bit of a shower at the very start, but nothing else.

harpskid
22/05/2005, 3:15 PM
Fair play to Sligo - they're pulling in good crowds and are going ok so far this season. Can't wait for the league cup game down there - should be a cracking atmosphere that night!

Anto, I'd say those are genuine figures from Rovers - anytime Sligo are doing good, their crowds have responded accordingly

pineapple stu
22/05/2005, 4:08 PM
The Star had 1500 for Rovers v. Waterford, 1250 for Drogheda v. Harps and 3250 (!) for Bray v. Bohs. Was talking to a couple of people who were at the Rovers game and they said 1500 was reasonable.

WindmillWarrior
22/05/2005, 4:39 PM
There was more than 1250 at our game. Not much though. Considerably down on previous games. Dour Doolin tactics taking effect already! My guess 1,500.

gael353
22/05/2005, 10:39 PM
id say there was about 80-100 at the Monaghan United,Limerick game today. Bout 20 from Limerick.

shedhead
23/05/2005, 12:30 AM
Id say theres photos to prove it of the new stand being 80-90% full every game this season, and then adding up the scatters of people around the other areas it has never fallen under 1600. People can be very sceptical. people who go to the matchs still say that it is a poor crowd even do its better then a few premier clubs and all first div clubs so (hopefully,if we never get paul duddy refereeing again )we should be up in premier with 3-4k every week. Id say the Harps game in the cup will see at least 2500-3000 people as harps fans love coming down to civilisation for a while ;) and rovers fans just hate harps

corkharps
23/05/2005, 9:33 AM
If Sligo get promoted, what will the EL do to accomadte Sligo v Cork games? Will Croke Park be available? :D

dublinred
23/05/2005, 1:03 PM
Updates after the weekend...

PREMIER
Bohs 2198 (2340)
Bray 1740 (818)
Cork 3931 (4033)
Derry 2530 (1672)
Drogheda 2221 (1554)
Harps 1940 (1106)
Longford 1280 (1131)
Pat's 2163 (1882)
Rovers 1975 (1466)
Shels 2321 (2158)
UCD 729 (306)
Waterford 1825 (1753)

FIRST
Athlone 483 (291) (missing Monaghan)
Cobh 467 (240) (missing Athlone)
Dublin City 165 (592)
Dundalk 358 (591) (missing Monaghan)
Galway 738 (571)
Kildare 208 (298)
Kilkenny 143 (108) (missing Athlone, Dundalk and Kildare)
Limerick 932 (188)
Monaghan 140 (182) (missing Cobh)
Sligo 1620 (781)

Premier Division - 2058 (1863)
First Division - 566 (515)

Weekend matches missing -
None :)


Some of the attendances are a joke , there should be a minimum requirement of at least 500 home fans and 50 travelling fans to be allowed complete at this level. I won't name clubs but if you haven't acheived anything in the last 20 years or don't look like doing so in the next 20 years why the hell are they in "professional" football. The first division is full of crap teams above their station content on trying to stop other teams playing football and thus contributing to one of the most unwatchable leagues in europe which is having a knock on effect on attendances at other clubs and interest in the Eircom lague in general.There are 3 prime leinster senior league candiates in the first division and one in the premier, time for someone to serious look beyond the premier division did see that things are not working.

Éanna
23/05/2005, 1:05 PM
Some of the attendances are a joke , there should be a minimum requirement of at least 500 home fans and 50 travelling fans to be allowed complete at this level.
You can't kick clubs out of the league because they don't have a certain number of fans. Every club has gone through a bad patch

dublinred
23/05/2005, 1:18 PM
You can't kick clubs out of the league because they don't have a certain number of fans. Every club has gone through a bad patch

I don't recall some of these clubs ever having a good patch , given their catchment areas and top class facilities I am surprised at their attendance numbers there obviously isn't an appetite for professional football in these areas.

Da Real Rover
23/05/2005, 4:19 PM
I don't recall some of these clubs ever having a good patch , given their catchment areas and top class facilities I am surprised at their attendance numbers there obviously isn't an appetite for professional football in these areas.
Thats still no reason to kick them out of the league, if they can function then i say good luck to them. In fact i would be all for expanding the league rather than making it smaller. Also it takes time for a club to become ingrained in a community, it was no different for ourselves.

Da Real Rover
23/05/2005, 4:22 PM
Fair play to Sligo - they're pulling in good crowds and are going ok so far this season. Can't wait for the league cup game down there - should be a cracking atmosphere that night!

Anto, I'd say those are genuine figures from Rovers - anytime Sligo are doing good, their crowds have responded accordingly
We take te p1ss out of each other alot but we can still get on with ye alot better than another set of fans from Connaught.

Speranza
23/05/2005, 5:08 PM
Pineapple,

any chance of you giving me the official figure for us vs Pats at the weekend just always curious.

Cheers in advance.

pineapple stu
23/05/2005, 5:26 PM
Heard nothing yet... It'll go up here once I hear myself.

pineapple stu
23/05/2005, 5:58 PM
Updates after the weekend...

PREMIER
Bohs 2198 (2340)
Bray 1740 (818) (missing Bohs)
Cork 3931 (4033)
Derry 2530 (1672) (missing St Pat's)
Drogheda 2101 (1554)
Harps 1940 (1106)
Longford 1133 (1131)
Pat's 2163 (1882)
Rovers 1840 (1466)
Shels 2321 (2158)
UCD 729 (306)
Waterford 1825 (1753)

FIRST
Athlone 483 (291) (missing Monaghan)
Cobh 410 (240)
Dublin City 165 (592)
Dundalk 358 (591) (missing Kilkenny and Monaghan)
Galway 738 (571)
Kildare 208 (298)
Kilkenny 143 (108) (missing Athlone, Dundalk and Kildare)
Limerick 932 (188)
Monaghan 125 (182) (missing Cobh)
Sligo 1583 (781)

Premier Division - 2009 (1863)
First Division - 563 (515)

Weekend matches missing -
Dundalk v. Kilkenny

pineapple stu
23/05/2005, 6:02 PM
Comparisons to last season...

Bray Wanderers v Bohemians - 2750 (2004 - no corresponding fixture)
Derry City v St Pat's Ath - 2500 (1500)
Drogheda Utd v Finn Harps - 1500 (no corresponding fixture)
Shamrock Rovers v Waterford Utd - 1300 (1100)
Longford Town v UCD - 400 (no corresponding fixture)

Sligo Rovers v Dublin City - 1400 (no corresponding fixture)
Cobh Ramblers v Kildare County - 350 (245)
Dundalk v Kilkenny City - no figure (900)
Monaghan Utd v Limerick - 80 (37)

Quick summary -
4 up
0 down
4 no corresponding fixture
1 figures to come
2 matches not played

Premier Division average - 1900 (1300)
First Division average - 225 (141)

(Averages are only for games where there are figures for both seasons)

Comic Book Guy
23/05/2005, 7:03 PM
Cobh Ramblers v Kildare County 350
Cobh Ramblers v Athlone Town 300

pineapple stu
24/05/2005, 6:41 PM
The Star had 1500 for Rovers v. Waterford
Just looking at that game on eL Weekly - the Jodi looked about 2/3rds empty, the Des Kelly and (obviously) the Shopping Centre ends were empty and though you couldn't see the Connaught Street side, if it had only away fans as is usually the case, you're looking at about 1000 in total for that game?

No idea how The Star came up with 3,250 at the Carlisle!

sonofstan
24/05/2005, 10:09 PM
Just looking at that game on eL Weekly - the Jodi looked about 2/3rds empty, the Des Kelly and (obviously) the Shopping Centre ends were empty and though you couldn't see the Connaught Street side, if it had only away fans as is usually the case, you're looking at about 1000 in total for that game?

No idea how The Star came up with 3,250 at the Carlisle!

there was a fair crowd of us in Bray but 3250 total? maybe the pitch invasion was due to overcrowding

dancinpants
24/05/2005, 10:13 PM
Heard nothing yet... It'll go up here once I hear myself.

I've heard 3000 being bandied about some people. Wasn't at it so couldn't tell ye how true that is.

garykelly
25/05/2005, 11:23 AM
Something as fundamental as attendances should be made public by regulation. Is there a requirement for this in club licensing ? Dont think sligo rovers have ever released an official attendance. Simple things as this should not cause this level of debate. It reflects on the clubs, that this thread is gone to 22 pages over a length of time. All clubs have to do is count and release their figure to the public domain. Amazing how something as standard as this can be left so open to scrutiny. Professional teams in england have an official figure by the end of the game. If clubs in the eircom league want themselves, the league and soccer in this country to be seen as professional, they have to start acting like it. As for the national media their attendances will always been wrong. esp in 1st division which isnt covered. cept for 4 lines taken off a website somewhere.

Wonder what the tax man would make of some of these figures been bandied about if he seen em :rolleyes:

pete
25/05/2005, 12:05 PM
Clubs seem to be gradually coming around to making figures public.

Shels & Bohs have started. Cork City will start from friday.

I think clubs have been to cautious about releasing figures but they seem to figured out that means of providing info to fans now.

Schumi
25/05/2005, 12:14 PM
Just looking at that game on eL Weekly - the Jodi looked about 2/3rds empty, the Des Kelly and (obviously) the Shopping Centre ends were empty and though you couldn't see the Connaught Street side, if it had only away fans as is usually the case, you're looking at about 1000 in total for that game?
Yeah, looked emptier on TV than I'd thought at the game. The shed and Connaught St bits were empty BTW.

higgins
25/05/2005, 2:31 PM
The first shot of the Jodi was early on in the game and it was empty but later on it seemed more full but still 1500 is the max from looking on TV... What have the Bohs lads said it was?

anto eile
25/05/2005, 4:01 PM
hate to say it as theyre low figures, but i believe the crowd for Rovers v bray was 1100, and Rovers v waterford was bout 1300-according to a 400 club trustee
the crowds look ok when youre actually in the jodi but watching on tv they seem terrible

pineapple stu
25/05/2005, 10:45 PM
Have revised Rovers-Waterford down to 1300 so.

Stevo Da Gull
27/05/2005, 10:09 PM
Bray-Bohs had just shy of 3000 there, about 2790 I reckon.

pineapple stu
27/05/2005, 11:04 PM
about 2790 I reckon.
Eh?! :confused: You don't want to be any more exact on your guesstimates at all? ;)

1100 at UCD-Rovers, give or take.

Stevo Da Gull
27/05/2005, 11:19 PM
Eh?! :confused: You don't want to be any more exact on your guesstimates at all? ;)


Well okay then, 2791+1/2 :D dont ask where I got the half from ;), its a long story. Im getting good at this guesstimating suff, I might even get a job at doing EL attendance figures for Aertel soon :D

Poor Student
27/05/2005, 11:21 PM
Well okay then, 2791+1/2 :D dont ask where I got the half from ;), its a long story. Im getting good at this guesstimating suff, I might even get a job at doing EL attendance figures for Aertel soon :D

Does that include those on the pitch or just in the designated areas? ;)

pineapple stu
27/05/2005, 11:54 PM
900 to 1,000 (http://btid.irishfootie.net/viewtopic.php?t=2227) mentioned for Waterford-Drogheda.

737 for Limerick v. Athlone according to the thread on their forum here.

sonofstan
27/05/2005, 11:59 PM
Jodi stuffed, Des Kelly respectable - maybe 700 shels fans in connaught st - say 4,500?

chippie0001
28/05/2005, 12:17 AM
Jodi stuffed, Des Kelly respectable - maybe 700 shels fans in connaught st - say 4,500?

Taking a guess about 3,200 or so. But we will have the official figure tomorrow.

Dr.Nightdub
28/05/2005, 11:33 AM
1325 at Pats v Longford, as announced over the PA. All the clubs have to have their attendances notified to the FAI by half time, there's no reason why they can't announce the figures at the end of the match.

Someone mentioned 3000 for Derry v Pats. I reckon that's pushing it a bit, 2500 would be nearer the mark, unless that new mini-stand was totally jointed.

Passive
28/05/2005, 11:35 AM
I'm not good at guessing numbers, but I reckon there was at last 34,000 at UCD v Rovers. An amphitheatre of hate.

pete
28/05/2005, 11:45 AM
Taking a guess about 3,200 or so. But we will have the official figure tomorrow.

As a neutral i'd have said 3500 tops.

Nobody in the Des Kelly stand worth counting. 300-500 shels fans.

pineapple stu
28/05/2005, 12:46 PM
All the clubs have to have their attendances notified to the FAI by half time, there's no reason why they can't announce the figures at the end of the match.
Incompetence? ;)


I'm not good at guessing numbers, but I reckon there was at last 34,000 at UCD v Rovers. An amphitheatre of hate.
Awww...is the poor wittle Wovers fan upset because I pointed out that there wasn't a peek out of any of their fans all match long?

Poor Student
28/05/2005, 12:50 PM
Awww...is the poor wittle Wovers fan upset because I pointed out that there wasn't a peek out of any of their fans all match long?

Or envious that we play our home games at home? ;)

Passive
28/05/2005, 1:35 PM
Awww...is the poor wittle Wovers fan upset because I pointed out that there wasn't a peek out of any of their fans all match long?

Pineapple, as I've told you on the Rovers forum, five of you standing in the corner singing 'come on college' doesn't make you an Ultras group. Rovers don't attempt to sing in Belfield. Our singing fans were spread all over the ground, we just went there to watch a game. We're not going to get in a 'singing match' against five students standing in the corner. If you're going to sing at games you need numbers. Otherwise, it's just you and your four mates, which is kind of sad.

eamoss
28/05/2005, 2:08 PM
Dundalk V Mons 300
Dundalk V Kilkenny 100
Dundalk V Sligo 200(was not the game but heard something around that)

kevincronin2000
28/05/2005, 3:51 PM
about 2700 at the cross to see cork city v derry city

chippie0001
28/05/2005, 4:15 PM
Taking a guess about 3,200 or so. But we will have the official figure tomorrow.

The official gate was 3,115, not a bad guess above if I do say so myself. The Shels crowd was 704. :rolleyes:

pete
28/05/2005, 5:07 PM
The Shels crowd was 704. :rolleyes:

Don't know where they were hiding as i would have been surprised if 500.